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Taiwan getting Hero 2.1 in late April.

http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/26/htc-hero-update-to-android-2-1-on-april-26th-in-home-country-of/
Just from experience, markets across seas always get it first. Does that mean that it will be after April 26th before the Sprint Hero gets the 2.1 update?

i not surprised if this is true with sprint getting the nexus and the powerhouse is being left in the wind

If this is overseas, this could be 2 or 3 months till the sprint htc hero updates.
I told you to root and flash DamageCotrol v1...

energizer1389 said:
If this is overseas, this could be 2 or 3 months till the sprint htc hero updates.
I told you to root and flash DamageCotrol v1...
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Why so pessimistic?? I'm not sure if you guys are right or wrong, but the article DOES say we'd be getting it soon after, why so scared?
Besides...once Taiwan leaks the Hero ROM, won't that be the same as when they release it for our phones? Am I wrong or isn't the overseas Hero the same but with GSM? Shouldn't we be able to perfect the 2.1 ROMs with that? I mean that would be pretty damn close with having the Eris leak as well, I don't know but I just don't see why to be scared and why to not get excited to see the actual overseas leak.

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Why so pessimistic?? I'm not sure if you guys are right or wrong, but the article DOES say we'd be getting it soon after, why so scared?
Besides...once Taiwan leaks the Hero ROM, won't that be the same as when they release it for our phones? Am I wrong or isn't the overseas Hero the same but with GSM? Shouldn't we be able to perfect the 2.1 ROMs with that? I mean that would be pretty damn close with having the Eris leak as well, I don't know but I just don't see why to be scared and why to not get excited to see the actual overseas leak.
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Because TODAY was our original speculation date. So after seeing this, it appears we have a month or more to wait. The biggest thing is that we havent been given a confirmed date and its getting tense.
Anyway, I just posted this for others to see something new.

Because TODAY was our original speculation date.
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Well....
Keyword-Speculation..
Stop speculating and you won't be upset...
It's not like 2.1 is going to bring an all new world, once it comes out we're just going to be inundated with well.. what now threads an hour after everyone updates..
Patience is a virtue...

didn't some self proclaimed "sprint employee" leak that date? (i've been looking, maybe they edited their original post)
But I'm going to take everything I read in the future from such sources with an extra grain of salt on top of the first. In other words... POIDH

A couple sites are saying April 9th (now), because Sprint is apparently issuing some network updates then,
http://phandroid.com/2010/03/25/rumor-sprint-htc-hero-getting-android-2-1-on-april-9th/
We'll see when it gets here

kbizzle said:
Because TODAY was our original speculation date. So after seeing this, it appears we have a month or more to wait. The biggest thing is that we havent been given a confirmed date and its getting tense.
Anyway, I just posted this for others to see something new.
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Start running the ROMs and I think you'll chill a lot more. Plus if ANY Hero gets updated, I bet the ROMs will be perfected a little more which is still something to look forward to.
I honestly have been on DC 1.0, and yeah not everything works, but then what will work with 2.1? Will we have LWP? The builds we have may even have more than the 2.1 Sprint will give us. I mean keeping LWP off our phones but on the Nexus still keeps a reason to make us upgrade. Which means we need to hack it

Listen guys, I didnt put any exclamation marks in any of my posts. I was just simply bringing up what I found for some discussion on peoples thoughts. I am currently running Fresh Toast 2.0c and completely happy with it. This isnt to start a battle about how pissed I am, just hadnt seen anyone post this little tid bit.

Sprint 1st said first half of the year, then updated to beginning of 2nd quarter, so between April 1st to May 14th. Want some advice? Stop putting so much stock on the rumors and wait for an official date. Sprint is notorious for terrible communication and missing dates so don't expect 2.1 sooner rather than later.
Yes this pisses me off too but it doesn't do any good getting worked up over rumors proving to be false. Personally, the spreading of rumors are more upsetting than the holdout for Sprint.

Jeez you guys cant read. I never said I was pissed off, I just wanted to discuss the date since there was a confirmed one in Taiwan. Im emailing a mod now to close this. FACK!!

Closed at OP's request.

Will we wait for the HTC Hero patch in June?

http://www.coolsmartphone.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=15484
I wanted to run a 2nd poll following the news that the Hero firmware patch for 2.x had been pushed back yet again....
Do we have an opinion? Do we care much because we have a cool bunch of cooks anyway?
Let's see....

I think it's pointless jumping ship now, after waiting for so long.
It will be more interesting to see if Fro-yo will help to ease this situation with future updates.

there are a serveral options that arent in the poll
no - Ill buy another android device no HTC for me anymore
no - Ill flash a custom rom
for me well i just flashed senseHero 2.1 and im happy with it xD
and next time i guess i will buy a nexus 2 or nex 3 becouse then you will get the newest software i hope

jbr7rr said:
there are a serveral options that arent in the poll
no - Ill buy another android device no HTC for me anymore
no - Ill flash a custom rom
for me well i just flashed senseHero 2.1 and im happy with it xD
and next time i guess i will buy a nexus 2 or nex 3 becouse then you will get the newest software i hope
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Agreed these options should be added.
Good point (below)

Is it really the best place to post such polls at? It's a DEVELOPMENT forum.

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Is it really the best place to post such polls at? It's a DEVELOPMENT forum.
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+1
also i would vote for "no i will get a non-htc device before", i think that is an option that should be listed. at least to make people think about that there are ways to show your dis-appreciation (just made that word up) for htc. show them that they suck, buy competitors phones.
edit: now i read the posts between the first and the last, guess i am not the only one thinking this way

Kudos to kyods there

I will wait,not that im waiting for the update i just dont have the "time" to buy a new device every 6/12 months.
But i am a little dissapointed with Android,i thought that beeing open-source would make it easier to keep it updated...i know the main problem is kernell,in other words HTC,but same thing happends with other brands.
All i hope is the few true developers for our Hero stay aboard...

My contract isn't up till next feb so I will hang on for the next gen of devices (4"+ screens, 1.5GHz 2nd Gen processors, Better touch sensors, more RAM e.t.c) and stick with loading custom ROMs on my hero until then

Why would anyone need an "official" GSM rom?
Take the fresh Sprint leak, use the GSM leaked kernels and voila.
It'd be the exact same thing.

adwinp said:
Why would anyone need an "official" GSM rom?
Take the fresh Sprint leak, use the GSM leaked kernels and voila.
It'd be the exact same thing.
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The GSM leaked kernels are crap, the are test kernels that suck the life out of the battery.
We need an official kernel to improve the ROM's any more

i'll just use cooked roms, they are often better than the official ones anyway.

jbr7rr said:
there are a serveral options that arent in the poll
no - Ill buy another android device no HTC for me anymore
no - Ill flash a custom rom
for me well i just flashed senseHero 2.1 and im happy with it xD
and next time i guess i will buy a nexus 2 or nex 3 becouse then you will get the newest software i hope
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I agree, too. These options should be added.

Yes i will wait since i'm already pretty happy with my Hero as it is, but my next phone will not be a HTC...

adwinp said:
Why would anyone need an "official" GSM rom?
Take the fresh Sprint leak, use the GSM leaked kernels and voila.
It'd be the exact same thing.
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+1, no need to wait, aHero is fine for me and I prefer Vanilla Android than SenseUI.
Maybe this update, if it comes one day, will bring new/better/improved drivers, kernel patches or whatever, so I'll wait but ... it's HTC: they'll invest more time in new device than supporting "older" ones

VillianROM
Who needs an official build when we have Nathan, VillianROM is all I need in my life. I only want cooked Roms

All we need from the official HTC update is the kernel.
Ontopic: I will stick with my Hero, since it's a very good phone.

All this screwing around on HTC's part has learnt me one thing. I'm never buying a HTC android device again. They could've release an update months ago. All they want is for us to get tired of waiting and buy a Desire or Legend. Not me.
I'll wait for the upgrade. Buy a new android device in fall. And it will be a Samsung or Motorola.

its annoying, but sensehero 2.1 makes it bearable.

As I am in a contract with my hero, I will wait, but once my contract is up I probably wont be getting another HTC phone. I don't like waiting for updates when they are available, its really annoying, and to be honest, does not make me feel very valued as a customer.
If I am not valued by HTC, then I will not be giving them any more of my money.
simples.

So I talked to T-Mo Rep

Today, I kept getting random messages from random numbers, so I called in to block, the rep also had a vibrant. So she was like "So... how do you like the vibrant?"
I'm all like "It's sexy"
But it took her so long to solve my problems, so I asked about random stuff like "Do you know when Froyo is coming out?"
She was a pretty "SMART TECH" you don't see those much on help lines now do you?
She replies: Let me check on that for you
and then she came back on and said "it won't be anytime soon, because if it is anytime soon, the tech supports usually knows weeks or months beforehand, but right now, it says 'to be determined'"
SO, do you guys it'll take as long as the rep said?

Unfortunately, this still fell into the same "He Said She Said" category, until we get an official statement, it's all moot. She may be smart but she is still a rep and I doubt she will have access to OTA information. She most likely turned around and asked her best friend/co-worker who is a tech, and he replied that he didn't know anything, and she passes that onto you.

I think she's right. We already know that froyo would come by the end of the year according to the galaxy s twitter. I expect it to come around December 29. Am I so pessimistic?

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I think she's right. We already know that froyo would come by the end of the year according to the galaxy s twitter. I expect it to come around December 29. Am I so pessimistic?
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No, I believe you are pretty optimistic. End of December...well..

same here. I read the same thing in a tech online magazine.. they actually said 2011 but no precise date..
Im running the unofficial TMO froyo posted in this forum though and I like it
Cheers

Personally, I think Samsung should just give up and hand over the kernel source, maybe keep some respect.

The Unoffical Official T-MO Froyo ROM is in the Development section. If that is actually the real thing (and I completely believe it is) I don't see what the delay is for them to just release it.

Even when it does come out, I know for myself that I will keep a custom ROM. Why have stock when you can rock!

I think the point for all of us that are running one of the leaked 2.2 roms is that an official release will have more of the bugs ironed out and it will help with some of the compatibility issues. I for one have tried all flavors and each has a quirk or two. The good thing is that when 2.2 finally drops officially the devs will have almost perfected their roms and it will be easier to implement any changes made by Tmobile.
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I agree with the previous post. I think Samsung leaked the ROM so that the devs here could get their hands on it and make fixes that they then can implement into the official ROM.

So it wouldn't be so embarrasing on Samsung's part? x) Something big like a software update isn't too "easily" leaked. So I do sort of have to agree too.

Desire hd official 2.3 up date

Any news on 2.3 coming from HTC? Any leaks etc. Google is only bringing up news from 2 months ago.
Phones on voda UK any news or release times would be great. Thanks very much
Jp
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Sadly there is no news.
HTC have not released a statement saying if they will release Gingerbread for the DHD.
Obviously, with the DHD being their flagship handset, in Europe at least, an update should be due. Probably 2 months away though, HTC have to pollute it with Sense, carriers have to bloat & brand it. The Nexus One has yet to receive it, and there is no carrier branding.
If you really can't wait that long, install CM7.

Thanks for the info mate.
Well that's what I was thinking , being a flagship handset you would think they would try and get it out to compete fully with nexus s.
I am thinking about it however last time I rooted the h boot failed , ain't tried since.
Would like to keep to HTC as this is the second one iv had but the amount of problems iv had with this phone combined with slow up date times make it hard to not move to a I5 in the summer when its released.
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andyharney said:
Sadly there is no news.
HTC have not released a statement saying if they will release Gingerbread for the DHD.
Obviously, with the DHD being their flagship handset, in Europe at least, an update should be due. Probably 2 months away though, HTC have to pollute it with Sense, carriers have to bloat & brand it. The Nexus One has yet to receive it, and there is no carrier branding.
If you really can't wait that long, install CM7.
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. If you is not a problem, would I could tell what is new in the use made CM7. It may sound stupid but one thing is what it says and the other is how it behaves in the use of ROM.
I am interested in particular video, how much fps is in full use?

Sorry I really don't know what you mean. Could you try to explain?

Someone really needs to Sticky a thread like this to stop everyone asking this

HTC Evo getting gingerbread from today .Is desire z that worthless phone ?

I really can't believe HTC .... They are giving a phone which is about a year older than desire z sense update and we are still on waiting list ... Were desire z sales really that ****ty for them that they are punishing us for buying it ?
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+1 ... Yet another time we HTC owners feel fooked over by the company... that promises updates on updates.. I had the Tattoo... no update, and i've had the SE Xperia Mini Pro... no Update... HTC promised Desire Z update within Q1 of 2011.. and look where we are.. Curses! And how come they speak in the media about Unlocking and open up for rooting on NEWER models..? They do not mention to unlock the phones they just locked with the latest update.. Only newer... Tragic!

The evo was a huge flagship device with a bunch of "first" promises look at it from another point of view, HTC is keeping good on the "first idea"
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If you want to look at it from a Marketing angle. EVO 4G came before G2. So YES, they will update that before us G2 / Desire Z owners. Got to look at the line up of what came before G2/Desire Z, THEN you see how far down the waiting list we are.
-Kiyo

I don't really see what the big deal is here...
Gingerbread is available to us through Custom ROMS.... For me, the developer support behind the DZ was one of the main reasons I decided to purchase it.
The EVO is a flagship device for HTC so I can understand why they decided to get it updated before the DZ/G2...
The official update will come, just give it time. In the meanwhile, try one of the many custom roms we have to choose from.

actually the update was confirmed to be in july for the desire z a while ago, so dont worry

I'm a little confused here too, but not by HTC's update schedule. I'm confused as to why a bunch of rooted users running some impressive dev ROMS would care about an official update. This is like getting a fully loaded pizza with anything and everything and looking longingly at the half-cold cheese pizza. Gingerbread 2.3 is already here for us and has been for a while. I figured the entire point of rooting was to enable a user to have the latest, most updated software ASAP.. and have a wide selection. I'll let the non-rooted mainstream worry about when the next official OTA drops.

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I'm a little confused here too, but not by HTC's update schedule. I'm confused as to why a bunch of rooted users running some impressive dev ROMS would care about an official update. This is like getting a fully loaded pizza with anything and everything and looking longingly at the half-cold cheese pizza. Gingerbread 2.3 is already here for us and has been for a while. I figured the entire point of rooting was to enable a user to have the latest, most updated software ASAP.. and have a wide selection. I'll let the non-rooted mainstream worry about when the next official OTA drops.
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HTC have said the update will arrive before the end of June, which still gives them a month before they break any promises.
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Guys its not about having leaked updates or devs making update for us .... Rule of thumb is that newer phone should get update before older phone .... Desire z was released a month or 2 after desire HD ... Yet they got official update a month back ... And now even an older phone like evo is getting update before ours . Getting official update means more stable bug free Rom along with its source code so that devs start working on it properly.... We haven't got that and apparently we will get that around start of July . That's a damn shame ....
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The EVO was pretty much the only decent Android phone on Sprint for a long time, while the markets with the DZ have had a choice of devices. And although Sprint is the #3 carrier in the US, they are still relatively large. And the US is probably HTC's largest market. Don't know the exact numbers of DZ users versus EVO, but it would seem from these factors that there are more EVO users than DZ users, and HTC has to prioritize somehow. That doesn't mean that the DZ is "useless".
Besides, latest promise from HTC is before the end of Q2 (end of June) for us to get the update. If they keep that promise, that's only a few weeks after the EVO gets it, at most. And it might be sooner.
http://pocketnow.com/android/htc-updates-desire-z-gingerbread-status-out-by-end-of-june

While I'm fairly annoyed that we seem to be last to get Gingerbread on our phones, its been quoted at Q2 for quite some time, so I hope to get it this month. Its more because I have some weird issues with the 1.72 software than features.
I can understand devs wanting to see the ROM as they probably want the official Kernel source, or apps like Sense out of it to cook into their own ROMs.
All said, is HTC actually working on Gingerbread for DZ? There has only been 1 very early leak compared to a "final" for the G2. Granted, they have Sense to test too but that was in March (28th ish)
Lets hope for delivery within the next 30 days.
Craig

wasnt the G2 official OTA sent out? and i seriously think HTC have just one lazy ass developer working on Desire Z GB update.... cause desire HD got update one month ago and that was released 2 months before desire z...this is most definatley gonna be my last HTC phone... i aint gonna buy HTC devices any more . they just churn out newer model of cell phones every month and apparently just 6 month old is too old for them to even bother pushing out an update for it on time...
and about Evo. well after htc had the update finalized it has to be tested by sprint ppl before its sent out as OTA. and yet they got it before us. i mean seriously i am so damn pissed at HTC...

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wasnt the G2 official OTA sent out? and i seriously think HTC have just one lazy ass developer working on Desire Z GB update.... cause desire HD got update one month ago and that was released 2 months before desire z...this is most definatley gonna be my last HTC phone... i aint gonna buy HTC devices any more . they just churn out newer model of cell phones every month and apparently just 6 month old is too old for them to even bother pushing out an update for it on time...
and about Evo. well after htc had the update finalized it has to be tested by sprint ppl before its sent out as OTA. and yet they got it before us. i mean seriously i am so damn pissed at HTC...
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chill, bro. it's just a phone.
and no, us G2 owners have not received Gingerbread OTA... I'm not sure why any one here would care anyway, as most of us are already on Gingerbread. yeah, there will probably be some improvements with new source released, but you're blowing this a bit out of proportion.

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wasnt the G2 official OTA sent out? and i seriously think HTC have just one lazy ass developer working on Desire Z GB update.... cause desire HD got update one month ago and that was released 2 months before desire z...this is most definatley gonna be my last HTC phone... i aint gonna buy HTC devices any more . they just churn out newer model of cell phones every month and apparently just 6 month old is too old for them to even bother pushing out an update for it on time...
and about Evo. well after htc had the update finalized it has to be tested by sprint ppl before its sent out as OTA. and yet they got it before us. i mean seriously i am so damn pissed at HTC...
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Are you serious? There are so many other brands that are way worse than HTC about this kind of stuff. At least we're getting gingerbread at all. Other brands just leave their older phones in the dust after 6+ months if even that. I really don't think you'll be as happy with another brand of phone. HTC phones have the best development going on hands down too.

Seriously, what's with the HTC hate? The fragmented nature of Android is as much Google's fault as the manufacturers'. I for one think HTC is pretty awesome. When a huge corporation actually LISTENS to a small rooting/enthusiast community and unlocks their bootloaders, that's a good day. I see the benefit to having that official source code, but I'm running a 2.3 leak with LP+ and Spare Parts and it's so fast and smooth it's almost ridiculous. Again, why is it a big deal?? I have zero complaints and know the devs here can do some amazing stuff, with or without the official OTA source. It only gets even better from here.

Well guys I was the biggest iPhone hater and HTC supporter you could ever think of . But now I'm seriously considering getting an iPhone after desire z . No matter how locked down the platform is at least they provide updates to all phones on time for 2 years atleast and your phone remains the best phone least a year ....
Or I might go with the nexus series atleast they get the updates quicker . But up till GB.... plain Android is very bland for my taste . I hope they really bring some slick UI for icecream . So that I can break my bond with sense and live happily with cyanogen mod
I like Windows phone too but I ain't ready to jump to it until the next major update after mango arrives .... To me its still not as polished as other OS even with mango .
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Are you serious? There are so many other brands that are way worse than HTC about this kind of stuff. At least we're getting gingerbread at all. Other brands just leave their older phones in the dust after 6+ months if even that. I really don't think you'll be as happy with another brand of phone. HTC phones have the best development going on hands down too.
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Well guys I was the biggest iPhone hater and HTC supporter you could ever think of . But now I'm seriously considering getting an iPhone after desire z . No matter how locked down the platform is at least they provide updates to all phones on time for 2 years atleast and your phone remains the best phone least a year ....
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At least with HTC when HTC stop releasing updates, you have an excellent community where you can pick up unofficial updates. I have an O2 XDA Orbit 2 (Polaris) with Cyanogenmod 7.0.2 which I'm playing with.
I really like Sense, I also find stock Android bland, so I'll be waiting for official GB

hispeedworm said:
Well guys I was the biggest iPhone hater and HTC supporter you could ever think of . But now I'm seriously considering getting an iPhone after desire z . No matter how locked down the platform is at least they provide updates to all phones on time for 2 years atleast and your phone remains the best phone least a year ....
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How can an iPhone update not be "on time"? There is only one iPhone. So you can't have the same situation like this "EVO has the update, why don't we". Yes, they have older iPhone generations, but that doesn't really count, IMO, since they have only made incremental improvements to the phone, and no really significant changes. Pretty much the same phone every time, just slightly better CPU and memory specs each time, and cosmetic changes.
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I like Windows phone too but I ain't ready to jump to it until the next major update after mango arrives .... To me its still not as polished as other OS even with mango .
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WP7 is pretty much the worst of all worlds. Closed platform with hardly any apps. And incredibly poor sales indicate a very hard road for Microsoft at best. At worst, another dead phone OS from MS, with WP7 owners left out in the cold.

killswitch11 said:
Seriously, what's with the HTC hate? I for one think HTC is pretty awesome.
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Yeah, agree. HTC has finite resources, and can't update everyone all at one time. Just because they are a bit later updating one phone versus another, people flip out. You want to see awful update support, look at Samsung.