Damn , I checking everyday, looking for official ROM update for my HD2 ( Poland )
This time ( this HTC phone ) I wont to try "normal" way to rom flash, without different 'home made' ROM'S
What a freaking policy the have ?
Fake announcement's , almost official rumours, giving rom update only for some country's - damn !
After my third HTC phone I sad Enough !
There's always something - sms issue or other issue, lack of something, no drivers, no compatibility ! damn !!! It's like fighting with the wind.
But...I'm still here with my new HD2 - I'm giving last chance to HTC, they have my ultimatum 78 hours to release official ROM update for Poland !
If not......well , I know where thay have office, and where's a nearest gas station
I think that almost everything is because current market - new mobile every week, new OS every 3 weeks, new..new...new, where's that time's when producers release only 1 phone in year, but relay improved ! and with 99% working and stable functions !
HSPL is your friend
afropolak said:
This time ( this HTC phone ) I wont to try "normal" way to rom flash, without different 'home made' ROM'S
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I also said "This time I'll only use stock ROMs". I lasted 1 week before flashing a custom one again
Exactly ! I use it 1.5 week, and I will give HTC time till Friday 11:00 , then I will flash some unofficial ROM.
( and I will send email with picture of my butt to chief of HTC )
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( and I will send email with picture of my butt to chief of HTC )
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bwahahahahaha : -)
They don't read this forum so I doubt this 'threat' will even register with them - just flash a custom ROM and be done with it. They're better than stock anyway!
They have spy's here.... to read about every issue and then they can say that "it will be fixed"....someday, when they release 11 new pda's before end of the next month, of course with 6 different OS, on 3 different ROM's
They do read it. They said at MWC that they listen to forums and stuff to get feedback.
I feel your pain man, Eastern Europe seems to be ignored in regards to 1.66 update. I don't care about it that much, because its working fine, but i want an official rom with opera 10 full version and with pinch to zoom.
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They have spy's here.... to read about every issue and then they can say that "it will be fixed"....someday, when they release 11 new pda's before end of the next month, of course with 6 different OS, on 3 different ROM's
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It has been almost one month without any support developement for any HTC device (last was Released 2010-01-28 for HTC Magic) so it is not HTC HD2 specific
And the reason is probably mobility trade fair season, so I guess they were working on new product to have something to show and here comes your "11 new pda's ..." complain
So basicaly you are right
Well, that's why we have this site and cooked ROMs... I definitely wouldn't have had all the HTC devices I've had (seen signature pic) if it wasn't there.
HTC do follow, with mixed feelings obviously as people here are for sure abusing their phones, but at the same time they buy them, thousands of them...
Their devices are great, and it's not really their fault if WM is flawed as it is. They've already done quite a bit to try and improve it, then well there's so much you can do... at the same time until now nothing had WM's versatility, diversity of apps while staying open, which is why we stick with it even with the drawbacks... even if android is now slowly overtaking.
HTC Give us HD2 1.66 rom update for Poland !!
Hey !!! Guys from HTC !!! I know that You reading this !
!!!! 21 hours left !!!!
I already had take picture of my hairy butt ! It's ready to send.
On last two hours I will be ready , with my finger on the mouse pointed to "send" button.
You do know that all ROM updates for the region will come via SunnySoft -
http://wwww.sunnysoft.com/htc/
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I would hazard a guess that if it has not been released yet, that they are still working on the localisation?
I know about localisation form Sunnysoft, but it's not about language - I want official 1.66 rom for east Europe , I want them (HTC) to go to work and threat their clients like they should to. I want patch's for all leak's in HD2 rom, and I want suitcase filled with $$ and plane to country without extradition
so why don't you install HSPL and flash to ROM for your region?
But there is no difference between official and cooked ... why moan?
I have my HD2 from 2 week's from now, I know that sooner or later I will flash some cooked rom, I always do it with my previous HTC's, this time I though about giving HTC a chance to be "on time" with ROM update.
They have been, just not for you
What ROM do you have at the moment? Is it a vendor locked one? If so, it's them you should be venting at NOT HTC...
EDIT: Just checked their site and there's not even a 1.66 ROM. Think you should contact them directly as you'll get a quicker response than on here...
479.1
I'm waitig for 479.1 rom too.
Leo is my first HTC device, so i want to flash official way for the first time, obviously Still got some patiance...
afropolak, good luck on your mission, make sure to write feedback what HTC CEO thinks about your hairy one
Ok, time's up ! Right now somebody in HTC headquarters look at picture of my hairy butt and try to understand why ? Why somebody send it.
I flash Laurentis ROM yesterday, I must to say nice , but - few application that works well before, now crash every times ( mTollbox 0.3.0 ) but it's a other thread case.
I will still try to catch official ROM , because for my new bug-less rom I cant install semi-official Polish localization from SunnySoft.
Like I sad On the first post - DAMN..!!! THERE'S ALWAYS SOMETHING WRONG WIT WM DEVICES AND OS.
Yes, I know, I'm moaning again...
Related
http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2008/01/12/htc-keeps-letting-the-shift-shift/
Well the shift looks like has been delayed again now till Febuary. The reason why? Looks like HTC now cant decide if the shift should be shipping with the phone or not is one of the reasons. looks like they do read these forums and are really considering have it ship stock with voice capabilities out of the box.
How do I know this? well my new source just told me this. who is it? well our very own boygenius has emailed me that they are currently still deciding on this issue and its contributing to why the shift has been delayed.
The latest rom i have did still have phone settings in it so looks like they are swaying still towards it shipping with phone.
Now this kinda proves what i kept on saying that it had the phone abilities. what i was never sure of is if it will ship. we now know they are deciding on it.
That's nice to know... actually I just pre-ordered one.
but at least I'm happy cuz now every body can belive pawel was right!
I think still have to use the athena project's os for use full wm6.
I donated athena project...... mm.... actually not that much amount..
but I really want to say thank to athena project guys...
ok good news (even if delay are not so fun), I hope they understand why it is so important to have phone capabilities .. they put a SMS section on their shift support webpage ... if they remove this ability I think it will be a real problem because we all know about this ability and we'll never accept losing it. I own an HTC Touch but will be really happy to have a shift with phone + my Touch .. both are for different use (one as an calendar and real phone) and the shift allow me not to bring my touch all the time. I can choose which one I took .. I can't bring the shift to a party, to some holidays .. because there are too many risks of losing it, being stolen, etc.. so I would really enjoy both.
But what about the Origami 2.0 package? The shift had this package at CES2008... and it would be the PERFECT "official" reason for a delay. I think that with this package the shift will be THE BEST UMPC for more than a year.
Thanks for the news, I hope we will have more news in the coming days and weeks
ANOTHER delay?
Why don,t they just get the device out there with everything enabled and let the user choose how they wanna use it!?.
Who are they? Microsoft??
C'mon guys at HTC! just release it! We'll hack your ROMs anyway......
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ANOTHER delay?
Why don,t they just get the device out there with everything enabled and let the user choose how they wanna use it!?.
Who are they? Microsoft??
C'mon guys at HTC! just release it! We'll hack your ROMs anyway......
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It's not only about choice .. the delay comes from many reasons ... yes there are some choices to be made.. but there are issue about the number of shift to produce.. I have heard about CPU for the WM6 part that were not enough produced by Qualcomm and that was the big reason for the delay .. so we'll see
Hi, me tells a german distributor, that HTC has a "special Chinese Year" (like the chinese Year of the dragon, religion) within that, the people works not so a lot and be more relaxed, so that all things that come from there have delivery problems..
maybe i dont now it´s true, but that tell me a distri ;-)
i´m very angry about HTC politics, first they tell some specifications and later the dont have this specifications. (HTC Touch DUAL and S730 without GPS) I tell my users one half year ago, wait please for the new modells with GPS, and then, they change her product spezifications 1 months before to "without gps"..
i´m very angry, i´m sell and support many years with htc devices, i deployed and report many problems with the devices to htc or to the distris, sells more than 3000 devices since start with Wallaby/MDA ..
maybe it´s time to change again.
but we will see, i test the shift - is it right than we stay - is not i search again - i found always a other solution
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..I have heard about CPU for the WM6 part that were not enough produced by Qualcomm and that was the big reason for the delay .. so we'll see
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Oh.. Well.. If that is the case I guess I should be a bit more understanding... I guess.
But it still sucks...
The Qualcomm patent problem stuff sucks too.
Sorry for the bad language, but that is how I feel.
It just does....
greetz,
Pfeffa-rah
*sigh* Project status anyone? Those with the beta rom... Are we close?
Don't have any news about beta rom. I guess we are as close as three weeks ago...
yeaa.. and the rom was supposed to come "sometime this week" if you remember...
Well COOKED takes some time
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yeaa.. and the rom was supposed to come "sometime this week" if you remember...
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In Dutch, we have a saying :
"goed bereid kost even tijd" ....
"well prepared (food) takes some time...."
So we must wait.....although if this was a payed for restaurant I would have left the restaurant and would have scored a BigMac already, hehe..
I waited 10 years for my first moped, 2 years for my first car, and a very secret number of years to get laid....so waiting for the shift ROM is no exception. Accept it, live with it, hate it, it just doesn't help at all.
I seriously suspect HTC put pressure on the team to stop working on this ROM. But that's a hunch, a gut feeling, prone to errors and speculation
I think the problem is more of the kind : one person working on multiple project and personal life at the same time than any kind of pressure...
Maybe the mistake of the shift project is to use only one device for a rom developer, the other for vista side. I guess two rom developers would create a better synergy, as one could help the other when he get bored.
Most of the difficulties are because you can get a working proof of concept for gps or phone fairly quickly, but it takes longer time to have a properly useable rom from that, without memory elaks, or battery leaks.
Don't forget the actual base is a crappy snapvue rom. It's has a longer way to go to become a normal WM rom, then to add functions.
But I agree that a first rom release would allow other rom developers to start cooking also.
thaihugo: yes, that's right... but actually we are trying to order another Shift for Olipro. and PK will get ltxda's Shift soon.
oh, of course these roms will be a nice base for others to do their own cooked rom if they wish.
Do you really think that WP7 is coming to the HD2. you would have to assign the buttons again. you would need a dedicated search button, a camera button so engadget says. my views are that WP7 aint comin.
Engadget lost its credibility a long time ago.
with long time using htc phones i think it is not coming (remember hd1)
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Do you really think that WP7 is coming to the HD2. you would have to assign the buttons again. you would need a dedicated search button, a camera button so engadget says. my views are that WP7 aint comin.
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The HD2 doesn't have the search button and no Cam button... So what!
it can run 6.5.. without those buttons.. and we all know its possible to run wp7 on it..
So the posibility is there...
only thing is that HTC and Microsoft should agree to give us an update..
@HTC come on you've charged us +550 euro for this phone and no upgrade??
so if its about $$$$, I think the upgrade to wm7 is allready integrated in the +550 price..
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with long time using htc phones i think it is not coming (remember hd1)
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It may not come from HTC but it will come... The Tytn2/Kaiser's latest official release was WM6.1 and there are many many WM6.5 custom ROM's on this forum for it
For the required buttons story, remember that for WM 6.5, it was "required" to have a hardware start button, yet the omnia II lives perfectly without any...
It can happen, and i really would like it to happen, but only time will tell, and so will MIX next month, i hope...
I heard from a tweet by HTC Russia that yes, is comming to HD2
at this point who really cares . with touchXperience coming our way this will blow away the (zune HD) windows 7 phone. it was desperate move by MS , and they havent brought anything new to the mobile community , just their version of catching up with others and what has already been done ( out there )
its zune with a few new things IMO .
but again , its just my opinion and i am happy with my tricked out HD2 .
It'll happen, though maybe not officially, and that is might be a GOOD thing!
I cannot help but wonder that if there were an "official" WP7 ROM update, there'd also be a greater likelihood that HTC could do "something" to it to prevent HSPL, etc. and restrict our use of cooked ROMs. We all know that they know what is going on over here, and they are none too happy about it, but who cares?
No, I'll just wait until our wonderful resident chef's cook something up, which if history teaches us anything, is going to be a lot SOONER than HTC will deliver anything anyway. No worries. It's coming. One way, or another.
The question is whether we'll actually want it.
hmm all this crap**** about missing buttons is a whole load of BS (sorry the choice of words but i cant find any othe that fit better )
A OS can NOT Tell what the graphical picture/sign ontop of a button looks like and actually it couldnt give a **** about that pic, or have you seen an OS where a Webcam is needed so it can "see" what pic is on the button? Well i havent. . A programmed line in th code tells the OS that that button has this or that function. So could we please get past all this stupid, senseless nagging and moaning please?????
Windows 7 Mobile needs 3 Buttons, whoopie that means we have 2 free to reassign/rip out and throw away or whatever.
Anyway untill Win7Mob ever comes out to the market, then and only then will we be able to say what goes and what not.
Well, thats my 5c worth to all these win7mob threads popping out all over the place..
HI . i am courious if anyone has any inside informaiton on the hd2 receiving more offical ROM updates . or have they already moved onto bigger and better things ?
Cheers
only time will tell us ,but i think no more updates soon
is this the shortest ever lived super phone...?, although im pretty happy with it still
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only time will tell us ,but i think no more updates soon
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I hope we get no updates soon, because looking at other HTC devices, I think HD2 has got only 1 chance of a big update and it shouldn't be wasted as 6.5.3. They will definetely release an update and the support called it Windows Mobile 7. I hope we get the better version (WP7S) and not the crappy Windows Phone Classic.
I really don't care, I haven't had an official rom on my HD2 since the HSPL was released and that wasn't going to change any time soon.
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I really don't care, I haven't had an official rom on my HD2 since the HSPL was released and that wasn't going to change any time soon.
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but remember porting wp7 will be much more harder than porting wm6.5 roms ( no backword comptability ,which means drivers and applications used to operate the device will not be exist (camera ,bluetooth , wifi , radio ,and more ) like the problems happening in porting android to other phones the mentiond apps doesnot work
Sorry, I should have made my viewpoint clearer. From what I have seen and heard of WM7, I'm not that bothered about it anyway. It looks like a step backwards to me, albeit one with lots of eye candy for those that don't look beneath the surface. Microsoft have seen Apple succeed with that viewpoint and want a slice of the action.
I can upgrade to a new phone in 11 months time, I will be happy for my HD2 to have the various cooks of 6.5.x until then.
Do someone know when HTC will give out a new htc hd (blackstone) rom? maybe with colour Manila TAB. or something like that.
Because the stock rom is the fastest and most stabile ROM, I think! BUT not a pretty ROM, like the Manila 2.5 and W6.5**. It just need a OVERHAUL!
I think we can have W6.1 with... Manila 2.4 maybe hehe. not as fancy but cooler then Manila 2.1
LET's press the HTC, because they think everyone ****t money to buy a new device every month or week!
im happy with my HTC HD, but i think HTC has forget about us old-device-user! and they come out with upgrade to other "new" devices, but i want somthing to, somthing cool. and if xda and our worlds best developers can, then the htc company with the tecnologi can do it to! wtf i think, crapy done by htc! i have sent 1000 of mails too them and they keep say " dont know" then why do u work at support for god f###.. or? feks. the stock HD ROM have the ugly keybord, i want the new one on a stock rom.. so!
Sorry for my english =P but u guys understand what i meen!
Good Luck with that - Whilst I share your frustration that those who keep faith with Stock ROMs aren't rewarded with updates, the fact is that with the sheer amount of devices that HTC currently release year on year, the odds that some of it's back catalogue will get any such update are quite small.
I eventually gave in and flashed an XDA/Cooked ROM.
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I eventually gave in and flashed an XDA/Cooked ROM.
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Me too ....... I really would appreciate some stock rom, that would have qualities of Duttys rom with Co0kie Home Tab and CHTEditor versatility.
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Me too ....... I really would appreciate some stock rom, that would have qualities of Duttys rom with Co0kie Home Tab and CHTEditor versatility.
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thats what I really mean!! Stock rom with qualities of our chief would be the best for HTC HD Cheers!
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Good Luck with that - Whilst I share your frustration that those who keep faith with Stock ROMs aren't rewarded with updates, the fact is that with the sheer amount of devices that HTC currently release year on year, the odds that some of it's back catalogue will get any such update are quite small.
I eventually gave in and flashed an XDA/Cooked ROM.
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I have flashed xda cooked ROM, but our chiefs have stoped building ROMS with WM6.1, and manilla 2.1. And I prefer the speed and the stability of the WM6.1 and manilla 2.1.
Answer is no, and that is just the nature of business
There are too many new devices out there that they are focusing on (and still have issues), just to name a few, HD2, Nexus One, Desire...
Actually I don't mind them doing so, but at least make it easier for outsiders to access info on older chipsets (MSM), which to me is the main hurdle to maximize performance on the phones.
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Answer is no, and that is just the nature of business
There are too many new devices out there that they are focusing on (and still have issues), just to name a few, HD2, Nexus One, Desire...
Actually I don't mind them doing so, but at least make it easier for outsiders to access info on older chipsets (MSM), which to me is the main hurdle to maximize performance on the phones.
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ok, ur right now as i thinking, but.. WHY! do everyone want WM6.5? is stil laggy after some use, at the begining its WOW cool and fast, stable, but after 2-3 weeks its starts to be slow. so, why not make the 6.1 even better and faster + new design ( manila 2.5) tabs? the rest dont have to be as "cool" as htc hd2 (leo) i allways use the kwbr topix rom, but im dont going from his rom topix 3.5 wwe =D anyway, his new rom topix 3.6 or somthing, is it wm 6.1 or 6.5? heh
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ok, ur right now as i thinking, but.. WHY! do everyone want WM6.5? is stil laggy after some use, at the begining its WOW cool and fast, stable, but after 2-3 weeks its starts to be slow. so, why not make the 6.1 even better and faster + new design ( manila 2.5) tabs? the rest dont have to be as "cool" as htc hd2 (leo) i allways use the kwbr topix rom, but im dont going from his rom topix 3.5 wwe =D anyway, his new rom topix 3.6 or somthing, is it wm 6.1 or 6.5? heh
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u know why? because it takes effort to do software development, you need more people to support two platforms than one. It would have been nice if htc just upgrade/tweak manila 2.1 to 2.5. but from general use, you know that's not the case, as they behave differently (functionality is the same).
So why is this decision made? Could be many reasons, maybe feature, flexibility wise, 2.1 is just not good enough for the future, who knows?
For sure htc is not going to work on 2.1 & 2.5 to acheive the same goal, even though its for different phones, sadly in this industry the upgrade cycle is 6 months to 1 year (just like computers). I am not try to bash on the company, but take a guess which htc phone is at top quality in user experience (hardware & software) at release, and have good upgrades/support after 2 years. When you hang around xda long enough, you will know
ok, i understand now! HTC HD is dead. the company is thinkig about new phones. but if ill buy HTC Desire HD, do i have to keep installing coocked rom's frome here? The HTC Desire is not getting the "new" htc sense, ( htcsense.com) why? its so lalala stupid, look at the xp,vista and win 7. only new design, but u still have internett explorer and other stuff, i dont care about the design, only about nice updats.
thats why i dont like htc loonger, the forget about our phone after 5 months.
Pff, it's useless asking for updates for old HTC devices. They launch a dozen of phones every year. Their goal is to sell the new devices and earn money, not update the old ones for free. I use HTC Touch HD and i haven't seen any official updates on their site, except for some bug fixes and an official ROM which does nothing more than my preinstalled ROM. Haven't checked the updates for other HTC devices, but it's obviously they didn't give a damn about HTC Touch HD immediately after its release.