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A Close app solution that really does close everything?

Hi all,
I've tried "CloseAll" and SPBPocketPlus, and no matter what, I still cannot close CommManager or ActiveSync without going into Settings-Memory-Running Programs... what "true close" utilities are people using that have a "Close All" function that you know for fact closes CommManager and ActiveSync?
Thanks!
SP
HTC Tytn with original ROM

Not sure about CommManager, but the method you mentioned don't really stop ActiveSync, it will bounce back later, somehow.
Anyway, the CloseAll stated somewhere saying that it leaves ActiveSync alone.

I use magicbutton. It will close Activesync as long as the TyTN is not docked with a PC (but will reload later unless you apply the Fake Server Trick), it will not close CommManager though. Just press Exit on CommManager to close it.
Correction - Pressing Exit on CommManager does not close it. Doh.

Yeah the CommManager thing is a doozie. Exit doesn't close it which is crazy, you're not hitting an "X", you're pressing the word EXIT for pete's sake! You would think this would make it close.
Anyone's close program make CommManager close?

I use PocketNav
This works.
(Had it on my wizard also)

I use PocketNav
I also had it on my wizard
(put it in windows\startup folder)

It's worth saying that there are certain apps that cannot be closed.
Having written an app closer, one learns at great pains that some apps will cause a system crash if closed (eg Programs), hence you have to write special cases for various windows.
As such, having an app that can close ALL windows might be dangerous.
But apart from that, yes the user should be able to control whatever.
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Including closing ActiveSync and CommManager ... Anyways these apps dont seem that heavy weight .. so why do you want to close them?

My RAM meter jumped from 19.1MB to 26.2MB after manually closing ActiveSync and CommManager. For my purposes, that's heavy weight, especially for services that do not need to be running.

magic button is awesome... I still can't believe something like magic button was not stock in WM5, come not to include a task bar and close button, what were they (MS) thinking?

[App Idea] Slide Launch

I came up with this idea due to mbvarian's landscape fix for manila using mortscript. However, that thread is nearly dead and im hoping my problem can get resolved and we can see a cool app out of this.
Concept: Choose which program launches and closes when opening/closing your keyboard, with exceptions for specific applications (like lock orientation, minimize, close, etc)...
Why im requesting:
Im using spb mobile shell and love my custom portrait layout, id love to open the keyboard from the today screen and launch my secondtoday layout... when I close the keyboard, minimize secondtoday, and if i open it again it unhides secondtoday... the benefit here is a lightning fast switch between layouts, especially if you can lock the programs orientation in memory individually.
Other examples of how this might be useful:
1) From the dialer screen, you could set a mortbutton menu to pop up when you open the screen to give you a add number, contacts, recent calls, call voicemail, etc.
2) From calendar, opening keyboard could automatically switch to create a new appointment
3) From file explore, you could set mortbuttons to display your favorite folders, i.e. start up, storage card, windows, start menu, pictures
4) From text messages, it could launch a new text message, close it and sends and closes...
Im sure you all get the idea... I just think it would be cool to take a little bit more control of our phones by adding some additional control over a keyboard that is taken for granted a bit. I mean ftouchsl and ftouchflo are great, but if the touchscreen has that level of in-depth control, i think the keyboard could too...
Feedback is greatly appreciated... and if anyone can help on my spb problem, please message me the modded mortscript... the spbwatcher i think is whats affecting my results.

bump... anyone?

I would love something like this, but im not sure how easy it would be, a mortscript might be able to do it.
A cool app would be, when the phone is suspended, if you turn it on by sliding the keyboard it opens a new textmessage, or some other app you use with keyboard open. But if you slide it when the phone is already on, it doesnt do anything, so as not to disrupt the app you are currently using.

[REQ] HTC Taskmanager improvement

Hi There,
If you ever used the "Close Button" plug-in from Spb Mobile Plus you prolly know what I mean...
The HTC Taskmanager looks all nice, I like it, but its only accessible on the Today Screen. Is there a way to make it accessible even when you're not on the today screen?
Sometimes when you're doing stuff you want to "alt-tab" to another program and this is an easy way to do it, or when you want to close another/all other programs.
I hope there's a solution because it really is an improvement to the taskmanager.

me too
sorry, no help here. I can only say "me too". I was actually just thinking about this today. I've had this phone for a few months, and it just today occurred to mr today that you can't close other open programs without going back to the today screen, only option is to "x" button back to today screen or hope that what you seek to close is in your start menu under 'recent items'.
any help or development would be super appreciated, thanks all.

There is a shortcut in the Settings folder in the Systems tab. However, I expect you don't want to go through all of that when you want to use it. As an alternative, you could use file explorer and go into the Windows folder, find the Task Manager program in there, copy it and past a shortcut in the Windows/Start Menu folder. Then it would be on your Start Menu. You would need to remove one other item if you were then over the allowed maximum number of items in there.
Is that accessible enough?

I'd rather not put it in my start menu cus there are other "important" shortcuts in there...
I'd rather have it in the upper right corner...

You could use WkTask
the best free taskmanager there is (not working on wm6.5)

whiskeybro said:
You could use WkTask
the best free taskmanager there is (not working on wm6.5)
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I tried it and I like it, Is there a way to make a backup of my settings?

It seems the program doesnt work as i wished it would. I worked with it for a while and I like the concept alot, but there's a major flaw. Sometimes when I make adjustments to, lets say, my alarm settings (winmo clock/alarms setings), and when I press [ok] the window minimizes (I set the one click to minimize), there's no way you can apply the changes because it will keep on running on the background. If I choose to close it then the changes wont apply. This occurs to many other programs I use in simular occasions when you need to press [ok] to apply settings.
I would still have a solution to the HTC taskbar though. I think I would prefer it over the WkTask taskmanager.

How to minimize Opera than closing it when tap on the "X" button?

The question is in the title
Really hate it when everytime I tap the "X" button for Opera, it closes the app than minimizing it... I've set it off in the Task Manager to disable it. But still the same??? Pls help...

SEQ said:
The question is in the title
Really hate it when everytime I tap the "X" button for Opera, it closes the app than minimizing it... I've set it off in the Task Manager to disable it. But still the same??? Pls help...
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it is funny you mention because the question really is how to close opera. Once you have opened opera it stays on. the only thing is that you cannot see it in the task manager. they made it invisible so you can't kill the process. but now you also cant start it up from there. so when clicking the X you are minimizing the app. don't you think it starts fast when opening it for a second time. when new roms come without manilla, you will see it again in the task manager

SEQ said:
The question is in the title
Really hate it when everytime I tap the "X" button for Opera, it closes the app than minimizing it... I've set it off in the Task Manager to disable it. But still the same??? Pls help...
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just exit the program via the opera-menu then it really closes.
if you use the X it does only minimize.

real187 said:
just exit the program via the opera-menu then it really closes.
if you use the X it does only minimize.
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that still doesnt close it, if u use a proces monitor like Sktools u can still see Opera9.exe running, its even in the top 10 in mem usage. killing it in the process monitor doesnt seem to fix it either as the proces gets restarted somehow, but it does use lots less memory afterwards

I uses Touch Pro (Raphael) before switching to Touch Pro 2 (Rhodium), Opera minimizes visibly in Task Manager. But not in Touch Pro 2 (Rhodium). Now I know...
But is there a trick or 2 to modify the registry in Manila file(s)?

this would explain why sometimes as I'm moving offices etc and connecting to different wi-fi's sometimes although the wi-fi is connected it continues to use 3G.
I shutdown Opera and restart usually to try and force it to use the connected wi-fi but sometimes it just doesn't.
Turns out I'm not really shutting down opera hence why It continues to use it's original connection to 3G (not always though.)

Posted this in the General section
I have been playing around with the registries and it seems there are some registry settings that you can change to prevent that
HKCU\Software\HTC\TaskManager\ExclusiveList\System
If you look into the above folder, you can find a list of apps that will run under exclusive, meaning they will not show up in the normal task manager. You will notice Opera9.exe is in there. If you remove the entry, you can now see Opera9.exe in the task list. But it still doesn't seem to terminate the process when you exit Opera. Hence for the first poster, if you just stop here, your Opera will minimize visibly to the tasklist once you click on the "X"
For those who want to further kill Opera when you click on "X", you need to go to
HKCU\Software\HTC\TaskManager\TerminateProcess
Add a DWORD key (Opera9.exe) and set the value to 1. Now when you exit Opera, the process will be terminated and memory returned.
This works for me.

Cool~ Will try it out. Thanks so much!

Seifer1975 said:
Posted this in the General section
I have been playing around with the registries and it seems there are some registry settings that you can change to prevent that
HKCU\Software\HTC\TaskManager\ExclusiveList\System
If you look into the above folder, you can find a list of apps that will run under exclusive, meaning they will not show up in the normal task manager. You will notice Opera9.exe is in there. If you remove the entry, you can now see Opera9.exe in the task list. But it still doesn't seem to terminate the process when you exit Opera. Hence for the first poster, if you just stop here, your Opera will minimize visibly to the tasklist once you click on the "X"
For those who want to further kill Opera when you click on "X", you need to go to
HKCU\Software\HTC\TaskManager\TerminateProcess
Add a DWORD key (Opera9.exe) and set the value to 1. Now when you exit Opera, the process will be terminated and memory returned.
This works for me.
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It's work! And I was looking for this for a long time !Thank You!

is there ANY possibility of someone posting a screenshot of exactly what this looks like when it is typed in? I am so new and i dont want to mess up anything. Thanks.

But it opens very quickly when you want to use it again. Almost immediatly.
I just use cleanRAM a couple of times a day...Mostly after using opera

As far as I know opera keeps running is because push page is enabled.
Turn off push page in registry and reboot, then and it should not be always running in background.

milton009 said:
It's work! And I was looking for this for a long time !Thank You!
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Hello,
Sorry, it doesn't work for me
I've tryed every solution I found, I believe on registry settings, but all I found doesn't work, the opera9.exe process still become again and again, however I kill it, turn on the registry keys (RealExit, allready on), using the right menu of Opera for the built in "real" exit, killing Opera9.exe from different Task Manager (then OperaL.exe appears a few seconds, then Opera9.exe again), renaming file OperaL.exe to not be launched at startup -> another one was restored (more ancient) !
How is it possible to change any settings on a brower, or installing any plugin, if this one is always running ??
Thanks for help

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As far as I know opera keeps running is because push page is enabled.
Turn off push page in registry and reboot, then and it should not be always running in background.
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Hi !
Could you please give this registry key, for everyone ?

Odjavel said:
Hi !
Could you please give this registry key, for everyone ?
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See this :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=532948

PERSONA said:
See this :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=532948
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Yes, you did it ! Woohoo !
Thanks a lot for this tip, it helps me !
In fact, I didn't need to install the NoPushInternet_v2.CAB of TinTin, but thanks to him ; the indication that there is a service to stop was suffisant for me. I set myself the PushInternet service to start manually, with FdcSoft Task Manager. After soft reset, Opera is not launched automatically !
I gain 5% of free memory.
In addition to that, Opera works better now, the splash screen of Opera Mobile appears when he starts, sign that it is really launched manually. And Flash Player runs now, that's great ! Sign that it is not possible to install a plugin when the browser is still running. And also, when minimized, Opera appear in the Task Manager menu of TF3D, great too.
Strangely, when I use the Opera menu to exit, it does not ! He's not minimized, but Opera9.exe is still running. But I can kill it and he doesn ot reappear.
Also, if I use the X button, Opera really exit ! So, all is allright

Anybody has an idea oon which process to chose to do the same with Activesync ?

Should be \Windows\repllog.exe ?

HD mini - no "x" function to stop the program

ASUS P835 can use "X" to stop program ,but buy HD mini and try install "HTC task manager v2.1 " or other "task manager cab ", cannot show "X" in top task bar ,why?
please help me !!!
* buying & using in Hong Kong .
thank you

yep, me too.
I'm used to close program tapping 'x' button in elfin. Now, mini hasn't 'x' and it's not comfortable to manage program that i'm running. everytime run task manager and close it.
there some1 know how to restore 'x' function in mini pls.,,,,

missing x
Install the Advanced_Configuration_Tool_v3.3, this contains a tweak that enables taskmanager to exit progs automaticly to save memory.
Works great for me.

nlsn86 said:
Install the Advanced_Configuration_Tool_v3.3, this contains a tweak that enables taskmanager to exit progs automaticly to save memory.
Works great for me.
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Which setting (in advanced config. tool) does that?

missing x
- htc task manager -> auto kill

maybe use arkswicht.

What I do if I want to see the X button?
I think it correct with a change in registry.
I also installed a task manager program that controled from X button position, but it does not work.
I have a serious problem with it.

Hi all,
I had same behaviour, and usually use the x button. But in HD mini all this things changed and I has been disapointed for a while, but...
For office and other applications, you use the back <- hardware key instaed of "x" ou "ok" button. The only difference is that the application is not taken away of memory, it remains minimized.
If you want close one or more apps, knowing the fact you have a lot more RAM than on Diamond for example and you do not have to close every time the applications, you can yuse the integrated Task Manager tapping on top bar and then Task Manager button.

I found a solution to bring back the missing X button
With a registry editor got to HKLM->Software->Microsoft->Shell->BubbleTiles and set HardwareDoneKeyEnabled to 0 and HardwareStartKeyEnabled to 0. You will have
the X/Ok button back but also the win key on the bottom left will be back too. If you won't enable the winkey, the softkeys won't be centered and it looks ugly.
Also set TextModeEnabled to 0 in order to have icons instead of text in softkeys. The hardware buttons work normally like before. Hope i helped

Thanks, I've done that but doesn't seem to work. When I press X it minimizes the program instead of closing it. I check the task manager and is still running

this is standard for x, "x" never exit programs for real, was just a new function later on TD or newer to close programs with the x button....so I think "exit programs by pressing x" is another regkey you need to enable, without this, it´s standard "x" function, and that was always "minimize"

Thanks for the explanation

No there is no reg key to change the function of the X key. The only way to change the function of the X key (to really close apps instead of minimise them) is via a program such as xtask, wktask, ameba ect. In these programs there is an option to make X button close apps. Ameba is the most simple app to use. Just search for it

Doesn't the "end call"-button exit apps on the mini?

unfortunately no...

did anyone notice when you go phone. the icon is like mess up.. how to solve

anyone?? regards to the phone

keeee said:
anyone?? regards to the phone
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No problem here with any of the icons I can see. Which one did you mean?

whn u put the "phone" button. you can see that there is one keypad button at the centre, then on the left and right.. there seem to be 2 icon. being overlap..

No overlap here; I do see the text of 'people' slightly cut off due to the narrower button next to the Start button