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Hi All,
O2 XDA Exec with SE HBH-300
I have done the registry tweak so MS Voice Command works when you press the button on my BT headset.
It's so I can keep the Exec safe in my bag and use Voice Command to dial.
Works fine when lid is open and when the screen is in PDA mode even works when in sleep mode, but when the lid is closed the Voice Command melody bleeps but it does nothing.
So the workaound is put the Exec screen into PDA mode before putting in the bag.
Another bug after using Voice Command (lid open or PDA mode) you have to press the button on the BT headset to end the BT connection,
Only a potential problem for non phone call use as if you are using the phone it's not a problem as when you press the button to end the call it closes the current BT connection as you would expect.
And finallly any fix for trigging Voice Command when using the button on the corded handsfree ?
Thanks,
Jonathan.
Sorry to sound stupid but..
What is PDA mode? I either turn it off with the off button, or just close the lid down? not sure which is which.
Also, don't you find voice command fills it with Bugs? I generally found it a pain in the ass and had to unistall. (killed Skype for instance)
PDA mode is when you have swiveled the screen so when the lid is closed the screen is facing out in like a tradditional Pocket PC PDA.
Are they compatible?
I've changed the registry to use the voicecmd.exe file instead of the inbuilt Voice Dialer (which I must admit, I never tested with the Jabra!)
But when I press the Jabra button, I hear a noise in my ear but it doesn't seem to activate anything on the MDA Pro itself...
What am I doing wrong?
Have you got the lid closed? If the screen is closed it doesn't work.
This is mad.
If I press the button on my Jabra, I now hear that the voice path is activated but saying "help" into the Jabra mike doesn't do anything. No "mike" icon on the device (lid is open) and nothing happens.
However, with this voice path open, if I then press the voice command button on the device, everything works through BT. I hear the woman and can speak to her.
However, pressing buttons on each device seems a very silly way of doing it.
I should be able to press JUST the headset button, right?
I use the same hardware without issue
I find some commands dont work so well over bluetooth - but call seems to work OK!
I find the built-in mike is better to practice with first THEN try with the headset
I use DIAL <name> at HOME or on mobile etc and this seems OK
My only ***** is than on both BT and the device the VC voice is too low!!
While I remember to 200 Headset supports two profiles - I find the basic one works better with VC (that way you dont accidentally redial if you double tap the button!)
Found the problem. I reinstalled the VC software with no joy, so checked the reg entry. I was missing the space between "Voice" and "Command", so no wonder it wasn't working...
I would have expected an error of some kind instead, maybe... but at least it is solved now.
I've recently been having a play with the Voice Tag function on my Wizard. I can call any of my contacts by voice, and I can perform a plethora of functions on my phone by voice (helped by the added hardware button functions that Pocket+ provides). Now i'm wondering if I can do even MORE by voice, i.e. a spoken password, dialing by saying each number, that kind of thing?
Yeah,
Dump the cheezy Cyberon Voice Dial and get Microsoft Voice Command or Cyberon Voice Commander.
Both allow you to access PDA functions such as launch programs, access calander etc.
Additionally they allow "Dial 444 555-1234"
In my opinion MS Voice Command is better.
I've played with Cyberon Voice Commander because it will read e-mail and text messages but I've found it to be useless. Also Cyberon has too much of a delay from activation to ready for voice input for my tastes.
Oh yeah, neither of these requires "Voice Tags", they work by recgonizing your spoken voice!
Cyberon Voice Commander costs about $20,
MS Voice Command is about $40.
Both can be purchased at Handango.com
Now ... call me silly, but wouldnt it be a slight security risk shouting your password at your device to unlock it ?
Danny-B- said:
Now ... call me silly, but wouldnt it be a slight security risk shouting your password at your device to unlock it ?
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Maybe that's why none of these products supports it!!
I have given up on MS Voice Command. It works well, as long as you dont use it with Bluetooth.
It dials once or twice, but then stops responding to the Bluetooth command button. The only way I can get it to work is to press the bluetooth button twice to redial the last call, quickly hit the button again to cancel the call, and then, sometimes, the long press will initiate voice command again.
Jumping through hoops like this make the program pretty worthless to me. To dial numbers in the car is all I need if for, and that is where it doesnt work. I will stick with the voice tags.
jimmyhauser said:
I have given up on MS Voice Command. It works well, as long as you dont use it with Bluetooth.
It dials once or twice, but then stops responding to the Bluetooth command button. The only way I can get it to work is to press the bluetooth button twice to redial the last call, quickly hit the button again to cancel the call, and then, sometimes, the long press will initiate voice command again.
Jumping through hoops like this make the program pretty worthless to me. To dial numbers in the car is all I need if for, and that is where it doesnt work. I will stick with the voice tags.
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That's not VC's issue, it's your BT stack issue. On my K-JAM I press once to activate the BT audiogateway, press again to issue the VC. Works every time.
JNGold said:
That's not VC's issue, it's your BT stack issue. On my K-JAM I press once to activate the BT audiogateway, press again to issue the VC. Works every time.
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Press once activates the phone over bluetooth (sometimes anyway, sometimes nothing happens at all), pressing again does nothing. Believe me, I have tried EVERYTHING. I was messing with it for two hours doing every combination I could think of. The only thing that works is a double press for redial, end the call right away, then I can activate VC again(sometimes). And the cycle repeats.
On the other hand, built-in voicetag dial works everytime, and I dont have to activate the bluetooth first. One long press prompts for voice dial EVERY TIME.
So I beg to differ, it is an issue with voice command.
JNGold said:
That's not VC's issue, it's your BT stack issue. On my K-JAM I press once to activate the BT audiogateway, press again to issue the VC. Works every time.
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Same for me. Sometimes the recgonition isn't the same over bluetooth, but I never have to try more than twice. I use my VC for everything.
jimmyhauser said:
JNGold said:
That's not VC's issue, it's your BT stack issue. On my K-JAM I press once to activate the BT audiogateway, press again to issue the VC. Works every time.
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Press once activates the phone over bluetooth (sometimes anyway, sometimes nothing happens at all), pressing again does nothing. Believe me, I have tried EVERYTHING. I was messing with it for two hours doing every combination I could think of. The only thing that works is a double press for redial, end the call right away, then I can activate VC again(sometimes). And the cycle repeats.
On the other hand, built-in voicetag dial works everytime, and I dont have to activate the bluetooth first. One long press prompts for voice dial EVERY TIME.
So I beg to differ, it is an issue with voice command.
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So how do you account for it working consistantly fine for some, and others not?
BTW, my VC is loaded on the device, not on a storage card.
VC Usage Vs. VS VC Memory Usage
I've had VC on and off of my 8125 since I bought it in April.
The main problem I have with MSVC is whether its use (or lack there of) validates the amount of memory it uses.
For someone that makes calls primarily off of his recent call list, I find that the usability benefit does not outweigh the memory usage.
Wish there was a way to disable / enable the functionality, as to release that memory for other applications.
JNGold said:
So how do you account for it working consistantly fine for some, and others not?
BTW, my VC is loaded on the device, not on a storage card.
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Believe me, I am not an expert on this, I am just trying to figure things logically. But I would bet it has to do with the fact that you are probably using a different bluetooth handsfree device than I am. Maybe that was what you were referring to when you said it was a bluetooth issue. Or maybe it is the fact that you have a different model of phone.
What I am saying is that it cant be the bluetooth software on my phone, because the cyberon voice dial works fine over bluetooth, where the MS voice command does not.
And I have voice command on the phone also. All my programs are. I only keep music and videos on the storage card.
And voice command works great when using on the phone itself. I am amazed at how well and how quickly the recognition works. It just doesnt respond well to my Nokia car kit. And maybe that is the problem.
My wife's car has the same bluetooth kit as my car, I am going to try it in her car one of these days to see if I have the same problems there. She has a Nokia 6682, and her bluetooth voice dialling works great.
And also, does VC really use that much memory? If so, I think may take it off the phone. (I use it a little when not in the car) But if it is considerable, then I agree that it is not worth it.
the problem is that without any BT headset i can't get the microsoft voice command to work.
i installed it, dedicate the button. the problem is that when i press it the mic sign appers, i hear the bip and if i say "HELP " it does absolutly nothing.
NOTHING
it just stands there, then another bip comes and the mic sign disappears .
what should i do?
did you turn your mic auto-gain off like the instructions said?
problem solved.
don't know how ...soft reset and bam ! it worked.
the problem is that it hardly recognizes 0 ( zero )
well...i think the old voice dial would do the trick for me...
Keys to success:
1. Load in main memory. (Yes, it's a hog, but to me it's worth it.)
2. Be patient. Sometimes it takes a moment or two to activate.
3. Make sure your volume is not muted. (I admit it, I often walk out of a meeting and get frustrated with why it isn't working... oh, volume is off.)
4. Experiment. Watch the phone while you are playing.
Here are my results with Motorla hs850 .
1. Usually I push once to open the gateway and a second time to activate VC. (Note, I only wear my headset when I need it.)
2. Sometimes the gateway is open for whatever reason and I'll get an immediate bong. So after the first press, I give it a second to see if it will come up.
3. Otherwise, I may get into three presses. One which I think is opening the gateway but is actually opening VC before the bong sounds. A second which I think is activating VC but apparently is closing it. The third press usually then does the trick, but sometimes I'll even have to go to number 4.
So my strategy is:
1. Push button.
2. Wait a slow count for response.
3. Go back to #1 until success is achieved.
I have a Cingular 8125 (2.17 ROM, I believe) and recently got a Motorola HS850 BT headset. It's setup and works great, but I want to know if there is a way to reprogram the call button on the headset so that when you hit it instead of opening the Voice Dial on the phone it can instead open Voice Command (which I use for everything else.) I tried poking around on the boards and didn't see anything specific, any help (or just knowing it's not possible) would be greatly appreciated!
Thanks!
Doug
Found it
I found the answer with a little more searching. It turns out to be a registry entry for Voice Command - and it DOES work with Bluetooth (even though MS' description says it does not.)
Just change this registry key: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\OEM\VoiceCommand\Path
change the value from \Windows\SDDialer.exe to \Program Files\Voice Command\VoiceCMD.exe
Soft reset the phone and voice command will work when you hit the connect button on your phone.
Credit to HowardForums where I found it: http://wiki.howardforums.com/pocket...ice_Command_via_Bluetooth_(HTC_WM5.0_Devices)
I heard that it does not close the audio gateway however when you are done with the call...
is this true?
thanks a lot man, this was buggin the hell out of me! quick forum search and i found ur post. thx for doing the leg work
I placed a call with it and when the call was done used the button on the headset to terminate the call...it seemed to work okay.
i just tried it and it seemed to work just fine. the only thing i don't like, and it probably has to do with my headset, is how long i have to hold down the button for...but i can deal with that, so that i don't have to take out the phone!
I guess that the issue is with the regular voice dialer, you can just press the button to dial out, and when the caller hangs up, the audio gateway closes, you dont have to hit the button to close it.
I'm gonna give this a shot to see if I like it.
I did notice that it seems like I have to hit the call key twice in order for it to recognize the key press....maybe the first is to close the old channel and the second opens a new one? I don't have enough knowledge to say for sure, but there is no visual indication on the phone that the voice channel has not been closed.
That's probably what's happening. If you forget to close the voice channel after your call, you'll run down your headset's battery faster. I can tell that the channel is open because I can hear very faint hissing.
Of course, the point is moot for me because on my device (like many others) this trick only works until a call has been placed and ended. After that the button no longer triggers voice command. :-|
Looks like I'm having another strange "quirk" of my Xperia.
For some reason my ringtone goesu p and down when it rings.
It starts loud for about half a second then goes quiet, then after a second or two goes loud again, then quiet and so on, so forth.
Anybody got any ideas why it does this? The damn thing is too quiet as it is let alone with the volume wobbling up and down all over the place.
I'm using an mp3 that I trimmed with mp3 trimmer, the mp3 volume is normal, i have tried it on PC and bluetoothed it to several other phones.
Of note, after a hard reset it worked normal for a little while, but then started doing this again.
A friend suggested it might be a feature of "something" i have installed so you can tell the difference between the ringer and your music that's playing.
I just find it annoying and would like to fix it.
Any suggestions, ideas welcome. Thanks.
P.S. It happens with other ringtones already on the device also.
If you have installed Microsoft Voice Commander, uninstall it.
I had the same problem, after uninstalling Microsoft Voice Commander its working fine.
I have the same problem, but I kind of like how it varies.
Correct
You are correct, I do have voice command installed. I wonder why the voice command would be made to change the ringer volume though, it's not like it's to prevent the system thinking the music is a voice command, because a key has to be pressed first, in which case the music would pause.
My only other idea is that (like nokias etc) the part where the volume decreases, the system (voice command software) is supposed to "read" the contact name out loud to you. (but it doesn't).
so if you uninstall microsoft voice command, does it mean the phone will not have the feature for VOICE DIALING?
cause i use microsoft voice command in order to make phone call while im plugged into my wired headset
alias_neo said:
My only other idea is that (like nokias etc) the part where the volume decreases, the system (voice command software) is supposed to "read" the contact name out loud to you. (but it doesn't).
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Yup - go to Settings and MS Voice Command, select Phone, Options and untick "Announce incoming calls".
Thank You, i was terribly worried
I guess there is enough software around, that provides you the feature of voice dialing. I for instance use VITO Voice Dialer.