COOK and FLASHING ROMS? - HD2 General

Hi guys, sorry for asking such a noob question but I am new to this and it is my first post so would you guys please answer my question? What's cook room or flash rom and why would anyone want to mod the rom or mess with it? please kindly answer it.

xdo0p3yx said:
Hi guys, sorry for asking such a noob question but I am new to this and it is my first post so would you guys please answer my question? What's cook room or flash rom and why would anyone want to mod the rom or mess with it? please kindly answer it.
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To have the latest and greatest, or one that fits your needs better then what your service provider thinks your needs are.

xdo0p3yx said:
Hi guys, sorry for asking such a noob question but I am new to this and it is my first post so would you guys please answer my question? What's cook room or flash rom and why would anyone want to mod the rom or mess with it? please kindly answer it.
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No worries man, welcome to the community Chances are however you may end up with a few 'Just search!!' answers but I understand there is almost too much info to understand out there but do check out the sticky threads at the top of the HD2 rom development forum as there is a wealth of detail there.
In answer to your question: 'why would anyone want to mod the rom or mess with it? please kindly answer it.'
There are many reasons for doing this, I assume that you come from the 'HTC probably know whats best for their phone as they made it' point of view, this is not always the case.
Let's take a real simple example: There is a limited ammount of space in internal memory and the more you can get the better and some of this space is taken up by pre-installed applications and images that you may never use and some of these can't be removed simply by deleting.
This is where 'cooking' roms comes in: In order to remove those apps you have to create a new OS image (rom) without them in (this is cooking, which is generally performed by experienced people who will publish their roms in the roms forum) and then to be able to get that on your device you need to 'flash' the cooked rom (OS image) onto your device (think of flashing as installing the OS like you would windows from CD on a PC) , and viola you have a new rom on your phone which leaves you more space in internal memory to use for yourself.
There are obviously far more complex reasons for cooking roms (speed improvements, fixes, mods and changes to the UI) but in order to keep this short and simple I've used the above example. If you want to know more check the noob tutorials in the rom forum.
Be careful however, and ensure you read all the information you can search for / find in there as there are some potential pitfalls if you don't do it properly.

Thanks prime! I got it now :]

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Newbie puzzled!

Hi guys!
I'm not easily puzzled by terms and stuff to do to tweak your hardware, but since I'm all new to WM, I am trying to make sense of how to go ahead with running a custom ROM. I have a TC with original UK ROM.
First, obviously I should make a dump of my currently installed ROM. I am just very unsure how I achieve that?
Second, I have figured out that I need to Hard-SPL to get rid of certificate-checking in de device to run ROMs.
Third, I need to flash a custom ROM ... at this point I can have my way with the device, and do what I want. Also, not clear how I do that, unfortunately
Offcourse, at some point I will want to return my device for maintenance, warranty or maybe even sell it ... at which point I need to un-do the HardSPL hack, and reflash with the original image ... How would I go about that?
I've searched the forum, and I couldn't find it unfortunately, maybe, since I am a newbie, I missed a term to search for, or maybe I completely misunderstood
Any hints are very welcome!
Mescaline said:
Hi guys!
I'm not easily puzzled by terms and stuff to do to tweak your hardware, but since I'm all new to WM, I am trying to make sense of how to go ahead with running a custom ROM. I have a TC with original UK ROM.
First, obviously I should make a dump of my currently installed ROM. I am just very unsure how I achieve that?
Second, I have figured out that I need to Hard-SPL to get rid of certificate-checking in de device to run ROMs.
Third, I need to flash a custom ROM ... at this point I can have my way with the device, and do what I want. Also, not clear how I do that, unfortunately
Offcourse, at some point I will want to return my device for maintenance, warranty or maybe even sell it ... at which point I need to un-do the HardSPL hack, and reflash with the original image ... How would I go about that?
I've searched the forum, and I couldn't find it unfortunately, maybe, since I am a newbie, I missed a term to search for, or maybe I completely misunderstood
Any hints are very welcome!
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All of your questions had been answered a number of times already in this forum so there's only one thing you can do, Search and you will find the answers.
Hi. I'm actually searching for the same stuff and haven't found some all-in-one topic yet.
Don't mind "kutonglupa", i'm beginning to think he's a bot on this forum. Even though you say (i did it too) that you used the search function he can only come with one response: "use the search".
I'll keep searching too.
Try this for starters: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=356895
You probably know this already
Hard-spl flash:
Download hard-spl
Plug the usb cable to your pda.
Run RomUpdateUtiliy on PC.
PDA will display tricolour.
You will be asked REPLUG you usb cable. DO IT!
After a few second Hard-spl will be upgraded!
Rom flash:
Download the rom
Step manually to bootloader (press and hold camera button and press reset)
You will get a tricolor screen.
Plug the usb cable to your pda
Start RomUpdateUtiliy.exe (or Rom.exe) on you Pc.
Pda screen will be grey, you will see the process indicator.
When it is 100%, update is finished.
Radio-rom flash
The same as rom flash above, just download and use the radio-rom.
Back to offical rom + radio:
The same as rom flash above, just download and use the offical rom!
Back to original spl:
At this time no working method as I know...
katbollie said:
Hi. I'm actually searching for the same stuff and haven't found some all-in-one topic yet.
Mind "kutonglupa", i'm beginning to think he's an Angel on this forum. Even though you say (i did it too) that you used the search function he can only come with one response: "use the search".
I'll keep searching too.
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That's right dude. Keep searching!!!!!!!!!
Mmm, sweet, i've immediatly put it in my sig......in case i can ever help another newby.
(who owning a Polaris would ever think of searching in Kaiser )
katbollie said:
Mmm, sweet, i've immediatly put it in my sig......in case i can ever help another newby.
(who owning a Polaris would ever think of searching in Kaiser )
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See! Now you know you'll find a more comprehensive explanation if you'll just search, init? You've learned the lesson and you've earned your respect. CONGRATS DUDE!
Thanks
Newbie thanks for opening this thread,
it give a very good overview what to really do for flashing the Rom without having to read through XX Pages.
Unfortunately I have still have not found a right link on how to backup my orginal O² German ROM.
What do I need for this just in case I do need to send in the Polaris?
Is the software specifc for the Polaris?
Look forward for a quick note.
Cheers
Rar9
Be careful with what you try from the Kaiser forum in terms of tweaks though, I've read people had problems using them on the Polaris. see the Polaris tips and tricks thread for details
nahguam said:
Your posts in this thread are a good way to get a name for yourself as obnoxious.
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Thanks dude. You're welcome!
I was reading now in the whole forum for about two whole afternoons, and I have to say that I still have the same questions as the threadstarter.
These questions answered once and for all, this thread would be worth pinning in my opinion, because complete newbies don't know where to find the necessary information in this really huge forum.
For the case someone wants to come up again with "use search", I will try to make clear, what problems of newbies (including me) are:
For example: I now already found three different lists of HTC-cab-files in the forum, one here in the polaris-section, one in the general section, a half one in the wiki... often without version-info, and so don't really know whats the actual one...
so far so confusing, I tried to search for the answers onto the exact same questions as the threadstarter posted. in the wiki, there is simply nothing on WM6, no tools, no real how-to, nothing a newbie can use.
Only thing I could understand from wiki, is that cooking an own ROM, needs to have a unix(-like) OS, and even there, I'm not sure if it is still actual for WM6.
Reading a bit around, I then was glad to at least find out that the devices are locked for non-certified ROMs, and that one needs to do that HardSPL.
Well that's as far as I could get until now, and I really don't know much more than before. Pretty unsatisfactory...
So could anyone make (or point to) a little overview of what one needs to know about dumping, flashing WM6-ROMs, and before flashing, what one needs to "cook" an own ROM.
Perhaps I was imagining this way to easy, but I thought about nLite/vLite-style applications for customizing ROMs?! Probably you'll all laugh at me, but I would very much appreciate taking me serious, because I want to learn how to do it. Simply don't want to lose time searching the forum for information, that don't help me advance...
thanks a lot
Eric
EDIT:
well I found this, which I can only recommend to all newbies: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=356895
with this, questions of flashing are all answered,
but what tools one needs for dumping, flashing, editing ROMs and all of the remaining questions mentioned above remain open

How to backup original ROM?

Hi.
I am currently own a Samsung Omnia and I am planning to flash with custom Win6.5 ROM.
Before I do that I would like to backup my original ROM just in case anything happen I able to revert back as what I had right now.
My questions:
1) Is there any ROM Dump application available to do so for my original ROM backup?
2) Edit: There is NO better ROM. You need to test and read the feedback and decide for yourself
I know my questions are somewhere in the forum but there are thousands of them I hope someone kind enough to help me over here. Thanks in advance.
Eric
Edit: If you know there are thousand questions like yours, then search for those instaed of opening a new thread
Hi Ameet,
Thanks for editing my thread.
I am not expert like u which I able to identify which custom rom is stable or good for my phone by reading through thousands of thread over the forum. To me, all look the same and I do not know where to start. I know there is not prefect ROM available for every phone or everyone but I do highlighted as I am using Samsung Omnia and I hope someone using the same phone as me able to advise me that this ROM is much better or that ROM is for HTC and so on.
This is the reason i post this thread as I need help from someone expert like u to guide ppl like me, maybe you can just highlight a keywords that I need to search.
I thought the main reason of this forum to guide newbie for better understand on their phone or applications and has fun with it.
I am sorry if I duplicated this thread with same questions somewhere in the forum.
Eric
erichkooi said:
Hi.
I am currently own a Samsung Omnia and I am planning to flash with custom Win6.5 ROM.
Before I do that I would like to backup my original ROM just in case anything happen I able to revert back as what I had right now.
My questions:
1) Is there any ROM Dump application available to do so for my original ROM backup?
2) Edit: There is NO better ROM. You need to test and read the feedback and decide for yourself
I know my questions are somewhere in the forum but there are thousands of them I hope someone kind enough to help me over here. Thanks in advance.
Eric
Edit: If you know there are thousand questions like yours, then search for those instaed of opening a new thread
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touch hd

im new to the site and flashing im not even shure how to flash but i want to is ther anyone that can help me what do i need what rom to use
many thanks
maanie said:
im new to the site and flashing im not even shure how to flash but i want to is ther anyone that can help me what do i need what rom to use
many thanks
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If you want to flash a rom, read this guide. As for which rom is best for, everyone has different tastes, you have lite roms, and full roms (lots of apps included), then you have wm6.1 or wm6.5 as well as different versions of manila. Best advice would be scan first post of each thread and see which appeals to you then try a few out and make your own conclusion
Any future help on flashing should be posted in guide thread
Plenty of people have asked same question and get same result. Research, read & trial.
Can I also remind you to read the forum rules before creating new thread.
Ta
Rick
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Gold Card Question

hello all,
so after several attemps to unbrick my Dopod 858 with no luck, my only oppertunity now would be to create a gold card. The thing that gets me is you cant do this unless you have a working WM....! If I did then I guess I would not need to unbrick my dopod and use that instead!!! I would really appreciate if anyone has a solution for me on how to create a gold card without a working WM. If not anyone in Germany near Hamburg who can help
I originally updated my Dopod through links on this website(Juststable v2), I followed all the instructions correctly and everything worked fine until my battery died !
Now only 4 colour screen ispl/spl 1.09.0001.
Anybody actuall thrown a dopod? if so how far?
Did you try to charge batt again to full and begin again the process ?
Then, try again to flash from SD card, it usually works.
1. Do not use HardSPL on the lower SPL's.
2. This is not the correct place to post this. This is the Development forum. This is not a development post. Moved.
3. There is another way. It requires Linux. Search for "Dream Goldcard". Just make sure you make a Herald goldcard when following the instructions.
Is this getting personal ?!!
I am trying for help but the second time my post is in the wrong place!!
if i read the heading correctly, the forum i originally posted is"Herald ROM development " with the sub info"This forum is only meant fro ROM issues and ROM development".
Therfore I guess I have a problem with installing my ROM hence I posted it there.
Moderators may be there to help and I fully understand that "old" members may rip out hairs finding things.
But ultimately we are all here to help each other, so Ivanmmj do please explain what my WM issue is or extend your forum explanations. it's not rocket science.
Thankyou
mrrockafella said:
Is this getting personal ?!!
I am trying for help but the second time my post is in the wrong place!!
if i read the heading correctly, the forum i originally posted is"Herald ROM development " with the sub info"This forum is only meant fro ROM issues and ROM development".
Therfore I guess I have a problem with installing my ROM hence I posted it there.
Moderators may be there to help and I fully understand that "old" members may rip out hairs finding things.
But ultimately we are all here to help each other, so Ivanmmj do please explain what my WM issue is or extend your forum explanations. it's not rocket science.
Thankyou
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Don't take it the wrong way, it is not personal. The sub is a little misleading. It's meant to be to report issues within their particular ROM threads, not creating separate threads. I'm fully aware that we need an overhaul of the titles and descriptions. I'm working on that. (It's not something that Mods can change.) As it stands, the reason why it's so hard to search for answers is because no one ever posted things in the correct place, making it very hard to search in a particular area.
As far as you feeling that I didn't help you, I did help you. And when that didn't work, I told you what to search to make it work. The only other kind of help I could give you is to search FOR you. No one is going to have the links already ready to paste into this thread. Ultimately, the way a lot of questions get answered is by someone else doing the searching and answering the original poster.
Note: The main thread in XDA that showed you how to hardSPL warned you against using it on a phone that had an SPL lower than 4.0. Unfortunately, many of the threads that have appeared after (usually created by someone asking for directions) does not include this warning.
Thankyou
hello Ivanmmj,
thankyou for your response, its good to see we can all talk at the same level, I appreciate your honesty.
FYI I never doubted your help in any way or form. just a little frustrated with the thread movements, I am sure you can understand I have been trying for a solution quite a while now.
best regards

OPPO FIND 7a/7s

hey there paranoid team,
you have posted your rom on the oppo forum but it seems there are no installation instructions...can somebody please post...thank you
mrsynister1971 said:
hey there paranoid team,
you have posted your rom on the oppo forum but it seems there are no installation instructions...can somebody please post...thank you
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Why do you need installation instructions? It's the same as any other ROM. Custom recovery, factory reset, install ROM, install gapps. Reboot
#stayparanoid
because sir,
it reassures people who have never done it before....a small example...i am 43 years old and until feb of this year i had never used an android device,then one day my brother came over and gave me one and voila i was introduced to android and have never looked back..my point being...there are new people discovering android every single day...we are labeled....NOOBS...by the community...and for good reason,we know little if nothing about the devices we own...but as you....and maybe many people all over the globe were once also NOOBS you can understand that a friendly bit of info..like installation instructions...can go a very long way to helping people feel better about what they are doing...and save everyone who has to help them out,(when they maybe mess it up),wasting their time when i am sure they could/will have better things to do...capeesh...
There are tutorials EVERYWHERE. Xda, YouTube, blogs. This is not ROM specific. Why do we need to rehash the same things that are already published out there? Use the info that is already there. No need for us to rewrite it. Flashing Roms requires learning the lingo, the proper tools, and the willingness to learn how to recover from failure. This website contains more knowledge than you can imagine on these things. The onus is on you to learn what others have already provided.
#stayparanoid
Questions before buy Oppo 7
Hi
I love the paranoid rom, thanks a lot!!!
I have figured out that many questions is answered in change log, but as a not so experienced user i hope the community will answer me in this thread, by prose or by links, thanks!
Before i buy oppo 7 i like to ask a few questions.
- is headset play, paus, skip volume etc part of PA rom; when the screen is on, and off?
- support PA install apps on sd card, or can it move apps to sd card?
- what steps is recommended before i root and before i change rom to PA? Do i need to take some backup of important info? This question is due to possibility to restore phone to "original"
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