Need Help Understanding My HD - HD2 General

is there any kind of option or tweak or whatever for the mobile internet use of this thing. On any other normal phone you would get they ask for permission to access your internet if it needs to. this thing ends up costing you a fortune when youre new to it. yes ive now unchecked update weather and stock things but it still does it in some instances without me knowing. when i was on google maps i think even though i was using wifi at the time!
while im on one the text messaging on this thing is a joke. why the hell is there like 2 interface sort of things with it. the one on the sense thing sucks as when you go to reply and it says 'tap to compose text' it takes 20 million taps to do anything. not to mention when you do eventually hit send after having to rewrite half of it coz it looks like its written in german it goes to your outbox without sending. the times i have been waiting for a reply for about 2 hours only to discover that its not been sent!

first job, go and instal either all the hot fixes on the htc website, or better still a full rom update if it will letyou.
sounds like you are still on the original rom which quite frankly sucks for many people.

About the net stuff: Smartphones like the one you just got, or an iphone to get a more popular reference ( ) are pretty much meant to be connected to the net all the time, and thus used with a data plan that suits it.
If you want to disable mobile connections just do a little search for Modaco NoData.

I sincerely get upset by this kind of messages. It is his/hers first message on this forum and it's only negative in the sense that the device is not doing what he/she wants. When do people realize that they need time to get to know what there/this device can/cannot do before posting threads with stupid titles.
Sigh!!

There *are* notifications warning the user that using apps like weather auto-update will use data connection and may incur charges. They only appear once, when launching an app for the first time. So it's not really phones fault that you didn't read them.
I believe it's not the phone that is stupid in this case.

Yeah, you need to update. The latest 1.66 ROM should fix your sms issues as well as a couple other ones.
As mentioned, these modern "smartphones" are made to be connected to the net 24/7. As some of their main selling points is the automatic updates of your social networking sites and what not. I personally do not use those features and have them all turned off. I personally have never seen an iPhone sold without a data plan as that is just pointless.
I would look into getting an unlimted data plan (which this phone warns you to have) or get that Nodata thing.

Smartphone my ringpiece. If its that smart why cant it just ask you if you want to connect via contract internet? I do use the internet on it a lot but mainly wifi so i dont see it being worth paying for unlimited usage. Wether I want to do that or not isnt anything to do with the question.
Don't get me wrong I like the phone but my main beef is that these bloody companies release most their products only half finished. If your paying as much as you are for these things you expect to be able to send a god damn message.
As for so called warning messages i didnt get any of this. And of course you expect something like this to "do what you want". You dont expect to buy a £600 phone to not be able to text someone. If you're so 'upset' by this message then why bother replying. Maybe leave it to someone who can actually be a bit more informative.

chrisman99 said:
Maybe leave it to someone who can actually be a bit more informative.
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You had your answers. For the SMS issue install the hotfixes, or better flash the latest ROM. For data, delete the internet settings or get NoData, or this.
An iPhone doesn't let you disable internet connection by default either.

Related

Anyone use Monilink?

I used to use Monilink a lot on my old Nokia. It is a Java app which you use to manage your bank account, it comes direct from your bank.
Anyone managed to use it under Android? I can't even get the wap push message to arrive when I register. I think it is arriving but the phone is ignoring it because when I put my sim in a different phone the message arrives every time!
doesn't work.
use the text message service from your bank.
There's a new version of the software coming out 1st weekend of December which will work with newer touchscreen phones, but still nothing for android or windows mobile yet.
the download link is just wap.monilink.co.uk/download.wml
i'd stick with the text alerts.
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I used to use Monilink a lot on my old Nokia. It is a Java app which you use to manage your bank account, it comes direct from your bank.
Anyone managed to use it under Android? I can't even get the wap push message to arrive when I register. I think it is arriving but the phone is ignoring it because when I put my sim in a different phone the message arrives every time!
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Wow, I didn't think anyone used MoniLink anymore! I was on the testing team for the bank when it was first launched, it never seemed to take off.
rhedgehog is right, looks like it will be coming out shotly, its just in testing, but this is not for Android / WM, they are not looking at this yet.
I used to find it quite good for quickly checking balances etc. Have to investigate the sms option to see if you can just send a text and they reply with balance etc. Perhaps before long the banks will make a version of internet banking with formatting for iphone/android etc as the full blown sites are rather clunky and slow when on the mobile.
Yes, you can. Each bank has a slightly different number, but in general you text BAL or MINI to that nuimber and it sends you back your balance or a mini statement.
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I used to find it quite good for quickly checking balances etc. Have to investigate the sms option to see if you can just send a text and they reply with balance etc. Perhaps before long the banks will make a version of internet banking with formatting for iphone/android etc as the full blown sites are rather clunky and slow when on the mobile.
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Don't think you'll really ever get that from mainstream banks, especially the one I work out. It seems their attitute to mobile banking is that the industry changes too much and they can't afford resources to suit every mobile phone.
With computers, you have the main browsers like IE, FireFox, Safari, so they make it work for those, but others are a bonus. There are so many platforms and browsers for mobile, they just won't do it.
The bank I work for made me laugh when the iPhone came out and they advertised that their internet banking was made iPhone friendly like they made it like that, truth is, they just got lucky!
sad thing is, monilink are just releasing a version for the iphone. They are then updating for the other mainstream touchscreen phones (nokias and samsungs etc) in december...but nothing for us.
Sucks really.
Java
I would also like to get this running,
I am getting the message through with a link to download the app, I then paste this link into my java Midlet Manager, IE opens and and says it cant find the link, I f I was able to get this downloaded i dont see why it wouldnt run in the Midlet Manager ?
Any halp will be much appreciated.
Merry Christmas
I find using NatWest online banking on Hero quite ok. I used to use monilink on my windows mobile phones as the opera browser seemed incompatible. But all the browsers I tried on Android work without any problems.

Speech to text without network?

Speech to text is an awesome gadget for SMS and emails but it's really annoying that it needs internet connection making things even slower than typing. Is there a way to bypass internet requirement? I mean like a language pack that we can add in the SD card
vegetaleb said:
Speech to text is an awesome gadget for SMS and emails but it's really annoying that it needs internet connection making things even slower than typing. Is there a way to bypass internet requirement? I mean like a language pack that we can add in the SD card
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nothing i have seen, and i have looked because i have also run into this restriction as well. but i am 1+ for this also because it'd be nice. plus i think sometimes it depends on your connection for the quality of voice transmitted.
when i am running HSDPA usually 90% of the transmissions are accurate, vs EDGE only about 70% of the voice transmissions are accurate. It's still a high rate but, back to the subject, I would also like to see this
I don’t think you will get this from Google and you won’t get the currently integrated speech recognition to work without a net connection. Their whole idea for speech recognition (and translation) is a “cloud” model with lots of computers across the world doing the leg work and basically brute forcing an answer. They are quite proud of it as it builds on their index technology which they have used from day one.
I read a news article on it however I am now unable to find it, sorry.
If your looking for local translation you are into third party stuff. I don’t know of any personally.
Open to correction if anyone knows better?
I though it's like predictive text, a sort of words database on the google server that they update every week, and so could be packed up as language pack.
Perhaps they could give us the freedom of building our own words database, it could take us time but would help alot, I remember the voice calling function that SE had in very old models...
I though it's like predictive text, a sort of words database on the google server that they update every week, and so could be packed up as language pack.
Perhaps they could give us the freedom of building our own words database, it could take us time but would help alot, I remember the voice calling function that SE had in very old models...
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plus i want to be able to say curse words. i dislike the fact that theyre blocked
For a hearing impaired person like myself, a speech to "text without network" has become a real search. I have been trying to find out how large a system one would need to install the kind of programs like iMac Dictate, or naturally Speaking 11 on a device like an iPad or equivalent device.
At home, I have a CapTel800i, which displays text for speech, but needs to be connected to the Internet and phone line. I need something to carry around with me to be able to communicate away from networks, WiFi, etc.
It should be possible to have a dedicated device with Dictate installed to do the conversion locally!?!?
zachthemaster said:
plus i want to be able to say curse words. i dislike the fact that theyre blocked
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So disable the block then..?
zachthemaster said:
plus i want to be able to say curse words. i dislike the fact that theyre blocked
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As the other guy said, just turn off the bad words filter.

Best "Lost Phone" App?

I'm looking for a replacement for Mobile Defense since they seem to have discontinued their product. What's the best FREE app that will locate your phone, blast the ringer, remote wipe, etc...?
Thanks!
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Lookout is a good app, if u set it up properly u wont even know its there yet, it does its job pretty well, no probs since mt4g came out, its free, but they recently added "premium" services, witch are really just to lock ur phone throught the site, ,, U can backup, locate, an keep virus free, for free though, you just cant lock it from online,.. also i doubt its a battery drainer, i still havent noticed any xtra battery loss
Thanks for the info. I'm looking to be able to remote wipe and remote lock and track the phone as well for free. Mobile Defense does all this but I don't think they're developing anymore and I heard there were issues with it on Froyo...
Lookout Mobile Security
Yea but Lookout charges you for the features I want...
Legaleye3000 said:
Yea but Lookout charges you for the features I want...
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sometimes everything is not free. And sometimes you get what you pay for.
True, but if Mobile Defense offers all of those for free, someone else must also. I remember seeing an app that had everything for free, I just don't remember what the other app was.....
I saw this Lost Phone app. Haven't used it but it is free:
http://www.appbrain.com/app/lost-phone/com.gadgetprojects.lostphone
Wavesecure is the best!!!!!!!
When u autolock it sounds an alarm.....and when a different sim is inserted it sends text messages to numbers that u list in ur buddy list....doesn't let the person do a master reset
*Sent from my Tmobile MT4G*
When it comes to goofy apps and misc apps; free is always nice. But when it comes to security, I never compromise. Free or not, you get what you pay for.
I use the Premium version of Lookout. I used the free version for a long time and the jump was worth it.
There will always be someone who wants everything for free. Well...some things AREN'T. Get over it. Deal with it. That's the way it is.
If you want something bad enough and no-one makes it, why don't you be the first then?! Go develop a free security app that does everything you want then give it away to the rest of us who aren't complaining...
JM2C
Prey
The app you're looking for is called Prey. The company's website is PreyProject.com. I tried posting links but I can't because I'm a new user.
Legaleye3000 said:
I'm looking for a replacement for Mobile Defense since they seem to have discontinued their product. What's the best FREE app that will locate your phone, blast the ringer, remote wipe, etc...?
Thanks!
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Just to clarify, Mobile Defense has not discontinued anything as I am still happily using their product. They have simply closed their open beta period (and it has been closed for quite awhile, 6 month or so). If you got in before it closed and simply had to swap phones, they have links on their website to re-download the client as long as you have a login.
You can no longer find them via the Market due to having closed their open beta period.
Please post questions in Q&A section.
chimatt said:
The app you're looking for is called Prey. The company's website is PreyProject.com. I tried posting links but I can't because I'm a new user.
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There are several threads in the MT4G area about 'lost phone' style apps. Even though you sometimes get what you pay for, I'd rather not pay the $20-$30 per year for the ability to lock and fine my phone (as both Wavesecure and Lookout would seem to require) unless there's really no other alternative.
After reading through the recommendations in all of these threads, Prey actually looks like it might be the best in terms of offering the most features in the free version. I'd be interested in hearing more of other people's thoughts and experiences in using these apps (with consideration of their respective prices).
For now, I'm going to download Prey and I'll report back later with my thoughts.
Trip report on Prey:
So I got Prey installed on both Mytouch 4G's on my account and tried it out. The free version of the app lets you specify your phone as 'lost' via a user-defined SMS, and this worked every time. Upon sending the SMS to put the phone in 'lost' mode, you can also have the app perform several actions on the phone, including sounding an alarm, displaying a user-defined alert message, and locking the phone (with the stock android locking mechanism, but a Prey specific unlock password). These actions can be modified from he Prey website control panel (even after phone is in lost mode), and are performed a frequency of between 10 and 40 minutes while the phone remains lost. You also receive an e-mail alert when your phone is put into 'lost' mode. Prey also has the option to put itself into lost mode if the sim card is replaced.
Regarding everything above, Prey seems to work great. A couple things to be aware of though: when the alarm sounds on your phone, it starts at the loudest volume but can be reduced in volume to zero with the rocker on the side of your phone even when locked. If it sounds again after the specified interval, it starts out at the loudest volume, but again can be reduced. Also, if you opt to lock your phone, then the user-defined alert message won't be displayed until the correct unlock password is entered on the device. Thus, you can't both lock your phone and display a message to the person who has it. The developers indicated that a future version of Prey may allow for an alert message to be displayed first, with a keypress then sending the phone to the lock screen. This would be a significant improvement imo, since it would be nice to display contact information for someone who may have innocently found your phone while at the same time protecting your privacy by having the phone locked down.
[[[EDIT: This paragraph no longer applies. As reported in my post (below), the developers have now fixed this problem, but I'm leaving this paragraph here as part of my original review. "Prey currently fails on the MT4G when it comes to generating reports in order to track the activities and location of your lost phone. The reports are supposed to be generated at the same frequency as the actions above (10 to 40 minute intervals) when in 'lost' mode, with the free version allowing you to have up to 10 reports on file before the newest report will replace the oldest one. However, after trying every possible setting I could think of on both the Prey side and phone side, I could never get these reports to generate on a consistent basis (success on <10% of attempts). I contacted the developers about this and other questions/concerns, and they were friendly and helpful with trying to resolve the issue. Apparently they haven't had any problems like this on their test device, but again, the reports are not reliable for the MT4G."]]]
In summary, Prey works great for being able to lock down your phone via SMS if it's lost or stolen, with an optional alert message and alarm sound. It currently does not [EDIT: DOES...the problem was fixed] work in terms of helping you find the location of your lost or stolen phone via gps/wifi, etc.
Note: Lookout does offer the ability to locate your device in the free version of that app, but does not allow wipe or lock without purchasing the premium app. Thus, perhaps using Lookout in conjunction with Prey allows the free version of each of these apps to compliment one another.
Edit: The developers of Prey continue to be very friendly and responsive. They contacted me to let me know that they are continuing to work on resolving the problem with generating reports. I'll report back when the issue is resolved.
Thanks to me if you found this review helpful : )
Update: The developers of Prey did some debugging and were able to find the problem that was keeping the location reports from being consistently generated. I tested out a fixed version on both of my Mytouch 4Gs and it now seems to be working perfectly.

[Attention] Big Data usage have reported with WP7

We have many report for big data usage on wp7 also when i usage data connection my hd2 is too hot.. that make me sceptical..
for that reason i make this thread if is not the right place please mod move it to the right place
Microsoft say: the problem coming from 3rd party apps
Some other say the problem coming from many differnet update that use the wp7 system e.g.email update, contacts update/facebook and more
Some other report says the HTC hub is one of the reason... use so much data..
That you can do is: set all account manual about the sync
Just go to settings / account and tap every account and set it manual
Fot htc hub go to in to hub and settings , do the same..
HERE you can found what Microsoft say!
HERE the report of HTC hub!!!
PS. is simply blog but have some good news.. so take a look around for other news..
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Thanks for report i fix a little bit the body of the message..
I don't know if this is true or not. I am not experiencing heave data absorption without my knowledge. I can check my data consumption on the Voda website and I have a 1Gb allowance each month. I've been using WP7 as soon it went semi-public and I'm still having about 780Mb out of 1Gb left. (last update was yesterday) It is not like I am not using the internet, but I do check on mobile websites as it just renders faster and it doesn't need the zoom too often. Multitouch zoom on HD2 is a bit of a problemchild.
I do had my concerns about the social networking integration as I thought it would pull everybody's picture gallery to my phone and would upload every picture that I have to Skydrive, but that doesn't seems to be the thing.
Overall, though the WP7 was not meant for the HD2, it's going to be here for always on my phone. sob...
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post in wrong sections?
There is not useful information in your post. "We have many report for big data usage on wp7" Who are we? What is many? Disable Data connection if you don't like traffic. Connect on Wi-Fi, log all connections from your computer and take a look where the traffic goes and you'll know what app you need to delete.
Funnily enough I just happened to check my bill after reading this and I'm up to 750mb since the start of the month. Normally I'd average about 200mb at most.
I had the HTC hub installed which has been promptly removed so I'm gonna keep an eye on it now and see if that was the cause of the massive data jump.
Pretty old news and really annoying way of writing.
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I did notice a single big jump in data downloading on initial setup, this was because of facebook i think, not the facebook app, didnt happen until i had set that up so my feeling is its downloading pictures and other info, if you have many many friends on FB this would be exponential. anyhow, i didnt notice this until i got a out of starage space message, because my SD card hadnt worked first time round. So, if that is indeed the case and not just a huge coincidance connect up your phone to your PC and install/setup facebook, then see what happens
Tazzimus said:
Funnily enough I just happened to check my bill after reading this and I'm up to 750mb since the start of the month. Normally I'd average about 200mb at most.
I had the HTC hub installed which has been promptly removed so I'm gonna keep an eye on it now and see if that was the cause of the massive data jump.
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so its real problem... thanks for your report... the reason of this thread is to learn if is real problem and where coming from..
i'm scary about data i have only 120mb data plan
vartp said:
"We have many report for big data usage on wp7" Who are we? What is many? Disable Data connection if you don't like traffic. Connect on Wi-Fi, log all connections from your computer and take a look where the traffic goes and you'll know what app you need to delete.
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You are right! we = (I some other chefs + some beta tester of our roms and some blogers)
Nice way...!!! Do you know any program that can count the traffic? Do you have count any program?
Another thing to add to the 'Reasons to avoid WM7 like the plague and stay on Android' list.
Share Wi-Fi from your computer/laptop, connect mobile through it, install any traffic counter or firewall on your PC (or use proxy that provides logs/reports), look where your traffic is going. I don't care about traffic on my mobile at the moment, so I am not going to check it myself, but that's pretty easy task.
Checked Mine
Although this may be in the wrong section, and been covered several times. I just now decided to check my usage.
T-Mobile USA
Data: 690.2357 / Unlimited Megabytes
Been using WP7 since it was released, HTC HUB was installed at first, uninstalled it last week.
As far as writing like this.
Personal Preference.
You don't like it, Don't read it.
cdguider said:
Data: 690.2357 / Unlimited Megabytes
You don't like it, Don't read it.
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What is your average usage with wm6.5 or android?
+1 for your comment
maybe is in wrong section i did search before post it i did not found something + as you know when you typing the heading you can see if any other thread have the same heading
also i post it here because i want to find the problem and fix or tweak the problem together.. we do not have the kitchen but we have the registry editor maybe that can help us..
I got a text from tmobile today stating I was being capped on my data speed for the remainder of the billing cycle this month because of too much data usage ....
cabrone said:
I got a text from tmobile today stating I was being capped on my data speed for the remainder of the billing cycle this month because of too much data usage ....
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too bad my friend...
but finally this thread help from problems little late but better late than never
Simple solution. Get unlimited internet without fair usage nonsense As I usually go over 1 GB with my HD2 regardless of the OS that's what I did. You pay a little more but don't have to worry that a facebook photo may cost you 1 Euro
Gents,
Keep the posts on topic and watch the flaming please, thanks.
Moved to Q&A
cdguider said:
Although this may be in the wrong section, and been covered several times. I just now decided to check my usage.
T-Mobile USA
Data: 690.2357 / Unlimited Megabytes
Been using WP7 since it was released, HTC HUB was installed at first, uninstalled it last week.
As far as writing like this.
Personal Preference.
You don't like it, Don't read it.
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Yep, i have the same issue. This is a problem.
TheOnly1 said:
Simple solution. Get unlimited internet without fair usage nonsense As I usually go over 1 GB with my HD2 regardless of the OS that's what I did. You pay a little more but don't have to worry that a facebook photo may cost you 1 Euro
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perhaps you can pay for their airplane ticket, provide food and lodging at your place so that they can experience this solution of yours.
haksam said:
perhaps you can pay for their airplane ticket, provide food and lodging at your place so that they can experience this solution of yours.
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Well I noticed Mine was hogging data at 5 in the morning well I was still sleeping. I did a comparison and in 2 days My win 7 HD2 used 125 Mb data and my HD2 with win 6.5 used 60 Mb. I used them pretty much equally.
Old news to me.

Attention all Android fans - This is Important

We really need to rally and get Google to fix some major issues with the Android OS. If Android is going to be truly universal and be able to compete, and beat Apple, it needs to at least be able to do what it can do. Please read: http://claar.org/blog/?p=180 and call, email, post, blog, whatever you can to get Googles attention on these issues.
And thank you for your support.
P.S. Pass this url on to every android user you can.
http://claar.org/blog/?p=180
Sent from my ADR6300, not my wife's iPad...
You have a legitimate argument but those items you listed are never performed by me. =[ Sorry. Everything I need done, works. =]
[ Sent from an LG Optimus V ]
Android still has a way to go before being all things to all people. It has the potential though so i'm sure we'll see improvements in the areas where it's currently weak.
Nice write up though. I hope these issues are resolved for you soon.
Write your congressman. Attend your local PTA meeting.
Don't gey me wrong, I love my Android phone, just saying that Google is missing the boat on the Enterprise side of things. Used to have an iPod touch that worked flawlessly on our corporate intranet, can't say the same for my dinc. As the workforce continues to become more mobile, they'll be carrying iPads instead of Xooms or Galaxy tabs.
Sent from my ADR6300, not my wife's iPad.
are there really people who use android's and ipad's/iphone's for work???
o-o?
id rater use a PC or laptop. but yha.
think all the company's want to be cool?
i cant go suport this.because my android does what it needs to do.
remember. smartphones and tablets aren't pc's,so they shouldn't do the work of a pc.
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are there really people who use android's and ipad's/iphone's for work???
o-o?
id rater use a PC or laptop. but yha.
think all the company's want to be cool?
i cant go suport this.because my android does what it needs to do.
remember. smartphones and tablets aren't pc's,so they shouldn't do the work of a pc.
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Why shouldnt they? Why should they have limitations. I say the more capabilities the better!
Universally, I don't understand Googles LACK of contact and attention to it's customers. Like most people are aware that e-mailing google is a complete WASTE OF TIME. I'd love to meet someone who has yet to actually get a meaningful response from google. I understand that they are a HUGE company and can easily get overwhelmed by emails, but the complete lack of response in general is UNACCEPTABLE. Why do they act this way, ESPECIALLY to their customers? Eitherway, they should respond in some way to all emails, understandable for free products, but for PAYING customers like us Android users, should get a response.
Google is worse than Sprint when it comes to response. I don't get it or understand.
I'm an IT Director for a medium sized medical manufacturing company and I've been testing ipads as a laptop alternative for our salesforce, and I have to say, I would be absolutely pissed if I had to use an ipad(or any tablet for that matter) for work.
Don't get me wrong. They work. But do you want to do all your work on them? HELL NO.
I have a remote desktop app on my mytouch 4g and I use it every now and then when I need to fix something or get onto the server for any reason. That doesn't mean I'm going to ditch my computer because my phone is capable of doing something my laptop does. Tablets, smartphones, mobile devices in general...they should be used to supplement computers, not replace them.
And as far as google 'not listening to their customers', you obviously haven't been on any sort of development team before. Especially not one that had any sort of fast progress. I don't know if you've noticed, but chip manufacturers have released dual core mobile cpu's. So google can either work on your vpn problem and appease a small number of enterprise users(people who will actually use a vpn on their phones), or they can concentrate on optimizing their code so it will work well with the next generation of hardware. They're obviously going to concentrate their manpower(or womanpower) on development for next-gen hardware. If the support ticket exists, they'll work on it. But there are thousands of them, and people need to realize that just because it's important to you specifically, doesn't mean it's an important problem. VPN access doesn't effect the overall functionality of the os during normal use, so it's going be put on the back burner, that doesn't mean it won't be fixed.
And whoever said go to pta meetings, PTA = parent teachers association. Good luck getting heard there.
While on the subject of fixes, I'm more concerned about linked market data and being able to transfer purchases to different accounts. I.E. switching from a google apps account to a gmail account. Also, the 'master account' crap. There should be a way to change which login you use to connect to gtalk and the market without having to reset your device to factory. That just sucks.
LOL, I used to get those "wake-up" calls from the 3rd shift platform operators. I got my butt out of bed, got on my PC and fixed the problem or marked it "next day" and fixed it when I got to work.
I can't see using a phone's screen size to debug a couple hundred lines of JCL or batch COBOL program Not to mention, I was usually talking to the operator at the same time I needed to see something on the PC; very hard to do with a phone.
Can it connect to Microsoft's pptp? Yes - http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/smartphones/connect-to-a-pptp-vpn-from-your-android-phone/2145
problem 1. You can connect to a proxy (unless i'm not understanding your complaint) There's Proxy options under the settings menu.
Problem 2. I've noticed this but apparently some 3rd party browsers can do it.
Problem 3. Not sure about this one, but i connect to many different networks (public, domestic and at uni) and have never had a problem like this.
What you're saying is that you have various problems that the vast majority of people will never experience and you are wondering why Google aren't dropping everything to fix it immediately? These problems (to me at least) seem incredibly minor.
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Universally, I don't understand Googles LACK of contact and attention to it's customers. Like most people are aware that e-mailing google is a complete WASTE OF TIME. I'd love to meet someone who has yet to actually get a meaningful response from google. I understand that they are a HUGE company and can easily get overwhelmed by emails, but the complete lack of response in general is UNACCEPTABLE. Why do they act this way, ESPECIALLY to their customers? Eitherway, they should respond in some way to all emails, understandable for free products, but for PAYING customers like us Android users, should get a response.
Google is worse than Sprint when it comes to response. I don't get it or understand.
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Because they already have your money, therefor they could care less. And they will continue to get your money, his money, her money etc because they make a product and provide a service that we all have come to rely on. They've got the hook set, you can't break free and they can let us dangle as long as they want.
But maybe the combination of google, samsung, and verizon has destroyed my outlook.
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I think many of these issues will take a long long time to see resolved.
You need to consider what motivates google RE Android. Hint: It is not paying customers.
Thing is, normal market forces are not at work in the Android space. This is
my BIGGEST issue with Android.
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You don't think your needs are most important ones, do you? There are many, many things to do, not only these mentioned by you.
For me your "This is Important" bugs are minor. Actually I didn't know about them to this time. I care much more about NDK APIs, performance and UI improvements and this is exactly what Google does.
Also there is one good reason to focus on new APIs, standard libraries, developer tools, etc.: Google is only one who can improve them and sooner is better. They could fix bugs at any time, they could also port them to older versions of OS. But if they add new API, it will take some time for developers to use it, because new API won't be supported by most of devices. So it's much better to work on a new features first and fix minor bugs later.
BobPaul said:
I think many of these issues will take a long long time to see resolved.
You need to consider what motivates google RE Android. Hint: It is not paying customers.
Thing is, normal market forces are not at work in the Android space. This is
my BIGGEST issue with Android.
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You have got that completely backwards. Iphone is not normal market space. Each manufacturer running android os have to set themselves apart from each other, hence skinning the os. If customers demand, need it, it will get fixed or innovated.
Apple controls all, What they say goes. Example: no flash, theming....
Amazon drops their android app store on tues. Why, market forces.
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hey dude most of those issuses were fix sort of well i wouldnt say fix because google came out with a whole new O.S. most of ur issuses hav been resolved in the honeycomb os and greater but u dont need a fix u need a app that can handle what u need
> Can it connect to Microsoft's pptp? Yes - http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/sma...oid-phone/2145
No, or at least, not for several hundred people at least, some who have even provided logs of both sides of the conversation. Some bug comments are from companies, representing complaints from their customer base, so it is probably more. I could write an article that shows how to do it, too, but that doesn't mean that I've tested all combinations. If the author's VPN was not encrypted, he wouldn't have seen the problem, and--since his connection worked, and there's that encryption checkbox--he might have just assumed it worked. He might have even tried it: You can connect with encryption, you just can't stay connected for any length of time.
> problem 1. You can connect to a proxy (unless i'm not understanding your complaint) There's Proxy options under the settings menu.
I can manually set a proxy, although there are reports that this is not a standard part of android, but a value-add by the phone mfr. A third-party program could perhaps recognize which WAP I connect to and set values accordingly, but only if I want everything to go through the proxy, and not just some things. That would have worked at HP, but my ulterior motive is to proxy a specific blocked port so that I can pop my email to my wifi tab. OK, I'll admit, my actual reason isn't a compelling case for Google! ;-)
> Problem 2. I've noticed this but apparently some 3rd party browsers can do it.
I'm not surprised that some clever programmer patched around the breakage, but it needs to be solved generally. Really, this and VPN are the most important issues for me.
> Problem 3. Not sure about this one, but i connect to many different networks (public, domestic and at uni) and have never had a problem like this.
You have never had a problem like this that you know of! Most folks have been bitten by this when the run into a place with short leases, and only find out--if they do--by accident, since most places don't check for violators.
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For the person who asserted that these are fixed in the latest release, that doesn't appear to be the case, according to the bug reports.
Are there really people who use their portable device for work? Not if it is android-based! (I know, cheap shot, but--for many of us--a true statement).
I have a galaxy tab. With working VPN and ssh, I could login and do a simple database change "echo blah blah blah|mysql", restart a job, whatever. I'm not going to write a couple of thousand lines of code, but I might look at a couple of thousand lines of a log file! Instead, I have to fire up the PC, which means I have to be around the PC, and I'd rather have the freedom of mobility.

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