Bluetooth poor quality - neoTouch S200 General

With different headsets the other part can't hear me well. Am i the only one?

Unfortunatelly not.Happens to me too and i know for sure one more s200 owner that has the same problem (from Eten users forum).However it is not due to poor bluetooth performance because it happens when using the built in microphone and speaker as well.It has something to do with the gsm module(my opinion).If you call someone and he/she is in a noisy environment the chances are that your voice won`t go through.It is as if the phone isn`t capable of dual way conversation (both receiving and transmitting voice data simultaneously)!!!! The problem is present in all oem roms that i have flashed.
Not sure if it is a rom bug or a defective batch of phones.Will have to contact Acer to inform about this "minor" problem.
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iliasroub said:
Unfortunatelly not.Happens to me too and i know for sure one more s200 owner that has the same problem (from Eten users forum).However it is not due to poor bluetooth performance because it happens when using the built in microphone and speaker as well.It has something to do with the gsm module(my opinion).If you call someone and he/she is in a noisy environment the chances are that your voice won`t go through.It is as if the phone isn`t capable of dual way conversation (both receiving and transmitting voice data simultaneously)!!!! The problem is present in all oem roms that i have flashed.
Not sure if it is a rom bug or a defective batch of phones.Will have to contact Acer to inform about this "minor" problem.
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That is exactly my problem plus the other part complaints for some punctuations of speech from time to time. I bought it from Clove in October.

Isn`t anyone else experiencing the same problem?

My Problem Is Worse
Often, after a while, the microphone just doesn't work. I answer a call and no one can hear me. This happens everyday. Also, same thing with apps. I open live search to do a voice search and the mic doesn't work. I don't know what the hell is going on with this thing. If anyone has suggestions I'd be glad to try something else. I don't know if its rom specific for me. Using the 3.03 official rom from acer.

tsourisg said:
With different headsets the other part can't hear me well. Am i the only one?
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The same problem here. I bought it in april updated to 3.003c and many people say, that they do not hear me on headset. I mostly use it with the headset (original Acer).
The other problem is, that I hear the other part perfectly loud, but there is some pulsing tone or noise in the background. Very annoying.
I use Resco Audio recorder, and with strong noise filter and gain control the recorded sound is perfect only the live sound is bad.
Is there an update or patch or reg or something for this ?

Call quality has been a persistant problem with all Eten, Glofiish and now Acer phones--speaking as someone who has owned 6 of them in ascending lineage I can only add my frustation---however--the fact that they have continue to make the most slim, fast, modifyable and powerful units keeps pulling me back.---This "half -duplex" effect where the called party cannot hear you while they are speaking, however, is something new and especially irksome. One of these days.....

stoma said:
Call quality has been a persistant problem with all Eten, Glofiish and now Acer phones--speaking as someone who has owned 6 of them in ascending lineage I can only add my frustation---however--the fact that they have continue to make the most slim, fast, modifyable and powerful units keeps pulling me back.---This "half -duplex" effect where the called party cannot hear you while they are speaking, however, is something new and especially irksome. One of these days.....
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I had X500, X800 (wife: M810) ... there was never a problem with the mic volume or the headphone mic volume (wired, not wireless).
After going from X800 to S200 everyone says that they can not hear me.
This half-duplex, full-duplex thing seems to be true, the s200 seems to be much more half-duplex than X800 was.
Hoping for something to make it better ...

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Speaker call not loud

on a I-mate jam it's possible to turn on speaker while calling so you can speak "handsfree".
This can be done by holding down the green call button.
When I do this the sounds of the speaker is de same as normal only the sounds comes from the back of the phone instead of the front.
Does anybody know how to fix this? A friend of mine has the same phone without a problem.
KoBolD said:
on a I-mate jam it's possible to turn on speaker while calling so you can speak "handsfree".
This can be done by holding down the green call button.
When I do this the sounds of the speaker is de same as normal only the sounds comes from the back of the phone instead of the front.
Does anybody know how to fix this? A friend of mine has the same phone without a problem.
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Have you tried while you are on the speakerphone mode to make the volume slider higher?
That ain't gonna help you. This is a known - and unsolved problem with the Jam. If you really need a speakerphone, you should return the phone. No amount of firmware/ROM update will help you.
I use the speakerphone option without any problems. The sound is loud and clear. What is this unresolved JAM problem that you're talking about?
Jam speakerphone volume problem
My XDA1 had the best speakerphone I've ever used, including corded phones. I could be in a conferance room with 10 people around the table and everyone could hear, speak and the participate on the phone never had problems with background noise. I have a hard time accepting that next generation technology from the same manufacturer should be woefully inadequate. The unit is advertised as a speakerphone, the solution is to return my phone and purchase another? No thanks friend, anyone reading this with solutions please respond.
I only have the phone for 1 month now so I´ll return it
tnx for the help
I think most of us don't know how to hold the mini in the right way, while the phone is in speaker mode...
if u want to hear a load voice.. make sure that back of the phone faces ur ear..
that' because the mini has 2 speakers... and the one in the back( near the mirror) is loader.. so you will hear the conversation very well...
and BTY.. I suggest u upgrade to the latest ROM available for ur device..
it helped me a lot....
cheers
duke911 said:
I think most of us don't know how to hold the mini in the right way, while the phone is in speaker mode...
if u want to hear a load voice.. make sure that back of the phone faces ur ear..
that' because the mini has 2 speakers... and the one in the back( near the mirror) is loader.. so you will hear the conversation very well...
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Wrong - its patently obvious that the sound is coming from from the back speaker. Why on earth it comes frm the back is another question entirely, given that the speaker phone is supposed to free up your hands so you do other things, including multi-task on the device i.e looking at the screen! Every other phone I've had has a decent speakerphone - and they face the front too.
But the main problem is that the volume from the supposed "speakerphone" is too damn low, irregardless of location.
Considering all the huge volumes of prior experience that HTC has (making practically every Microsoft PPC device, smartphones, plus the Palm Treo phone), things like this awful speakerphone on the magician are really not excusable at all.
I went through 3 TREO 600s due to speaker problems. You could barely hear the speaker phone on the 600 either. ANd to top that off, no one could hear you! The JAM is nice, but the more that I use it, the more I wish that either I bought something else or that the the JAM could just work the way it was designed!!!!!!
1.3 Mega pixel camera... my ass! It's the same quality as my first Casio digital camera from '96. Not mention the fact that Imate can't even put a decent ROM update together.
Perhaps we should build our own PPC's!
P.S. PM me if you want the CEO and VP of Imate's e-mail address. I e-mailed them and they actually wrote back! -Of course they weren't very helpful though. :evil:
One time, I turned on this speakermode operation on my MDA-Compact, I could hear my phonecall loud and clear from the built-in speaker.... This happenend accidently, probably by pressing just the right button, but I wasn't aware....
I cannot find how to do this again? How can I get the MDA-Compact to operate in speakermode using the built-in speaker?
I'm searching this (and other forums) quite a while now, but I cannot find my solution?!
Any help will be very much appreciated!
Thanks,
Igor.
One time, I turned on this speakermode operation on my MDA-Compact, I could hear my phonecall loud and clear from the built-in speaker.... This happenend accidently, probably by pressing just the right button, but I wasn't aware....
I cannot find how to do this again? How can I get the MDA-Compact to operate in speakermode using the built-in speaker?
I'm searching this (and other forums) quite a while now, but I cannot find my solution?!
Any help will be very much appreciated!
Thanks,
Igor.
Speakerphone..
To turn on the speakerphone part press the Green call button whilst in the call for 5 secs or so.....
I updated my Jam and now it's all ok

Big problem: noise in speaker when calling/receiving calls

Hi there,
i'm stuck now with a very strange problem.
I was playing with the A2DP patch when i discovered that my prophet is making noise in the built in speaker when i'm receiveing or making calls.
After 2 hard resets (the Clean Data and the Camera/Comm buttons + reset methods), it's still the same. I can't use the phone as a phone!
Also same with headphones. It sounds like the volume is way too high. Almost unintelligible.
Only in Bluetooth it works correctly.
Any ideas?
It is a O2 XDA flashed with French QTEK S200 ROM, so of course waranty is gone
Help help help
Hi there.
Nobody had the same issue with his Prophet?
After some investigation, i came up with the idea that it was because i was using Wireless Stereo with an A2DP device, but it suddenly came back, and even with Bluetooth disables/devices deleted/unregistered from the phone, it's still the same.
I don't know what to do. I'm forced to use my Bluetooth headset to use my phone :?
I didn't try yet Hard Resetting my device, but the other day, when i wrote the previous post, it didn't help.
So, You, who are reading this, please give me some advices
I'm lost.
i have the problem in the other one, in the normal use the sound is sooooooo extrem loud. in the bluetooth mode works it perfekt.
nighty
Well, it depends how you see (hear) the issue.
I call this noise, but in fact it seems that the sound is pushed to the max. I can hardly understand the words people say to me through the built in speaker.
Maybe we have the same issue, but i call it "noise" and you say "extremely loud".
Do i understand well that you're living with this?
Did you also played with A2DP patch? Or is the origin of your issue different?
Personnally, i'd like to find a solution.
yes i played with A2DP patch and i wont life with this probelm.... i send mails to www.qtek.ch, www.swisscom.ch, www.daanguard.ch, www.teleservice.com and a lot of other Qtek supporters.....
in this moment i use only bluetooth for all calls. but this ist not really a final solution.
nighty
Good,
i don't feel alone now
If one of them answers you, please let us know on this thread.
Maybe there are also other people with same or similar issue that are too shy to say it here
They'll like also to know how to fix.
I can't believe we're just 2 with this issue :roll:
Nightly,
did you have an answer for all the emails you've sent?
I'm planning to flash an O2 ROM back to the XDA Neo and sent it to repair, but if you've found the solution, i'd be happy to read it before i go to Germany.
nighty said:
yes i played with A2DP patch and i wont life with this probelm.... i send mails to www.qtek.ch, www.swisscom.ch, www.daanguard.ch, www.teleservice.com and a lot of other Qtek supporters.....
in this moment i use only bluetooth for all calls. but this ist not really a final solution.
nighty
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Hey, i was wondering did u ever find a solution for this problem as i have not 1 but 2 prophets with this problem thx

In call, persons can barely hear me

Hi.
while on call, everyone is having problems hearing me, i even did the test myself with one friend, and the micro cannot have one perceptible reception.
But, while in sound recorder mode, it works ok.
Is there any way to improve the microphone volume while in call? (patches, software, etc)
It might help
SandStorm said:
Hi.
while on call, everyone is having problems hearing me, i even did the test myself with one friend, and the micro cannot have one perceptible reception.
But, while in sound recorder mode, it works ok.
Is there any way to improve the microphone volume while in call? (patches, software, etc)
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I enabled the microphone auto gain control. So far, I have not received any complaint from the people I talk to, on the phone.
but i have that option enabled :/
without it, is even worse
It was always like this, or started suddenly? Maybe it's an hardware problem?
i never used this device often, but only noticed this when i changed to wm6
it is happening too on wm5.
anyone have spare mics?
strange, the voice recorder is working
same problem
found it :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=256734
i ordered one new mic and replaced it, it is all ok now

Microphone BIG problem.

Hello,
I got problem with microphone in my HTC HERMES. Without any reasons microphone stop working. Everythink is fine, i can call and do voince records, and then i got call or i just want to do voice note and nothing beside noise is recording. I dont know why it happining. After some time all back to normal, i can call and they hear me, also my voice note are loud and clear. My radio is 1.16. I reinstal my software to PDACornerPro.V25.NonRBSN.Opera. I did do HardReset and this mike problem always come back.. WHY? How make it work correct?
PLEASE HELP ME
neonq said:
Hello,
I got problem with microphone in my HTC HERMES. Without any reasons microphone stop working. Everythink is fine, i can call and do voince records, and then i got call or i just want to do voice note and nothing beside noise is recording. I dont know why it happining. After some time all back to normal, i can call and they hear me, also my voice note are loud and clear. My radio is 1.16. I reinstal my software to PDACornerPro.V25.NonRBSN.Opera. I did do HardReset and this mike problem always come back.. WHY? How make it work correct?
PLEASE HELP ME
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Well sounds like it might be hardware. If you've done a few hard resets and tested before installing any software and the problem is still there sometimes, then I'd say it's hardware.
The m/board on the Hermes is not one that you can really work on with ordinary soldering tools. A repair shop could check by using a heat gun to check the contacts on the Mic. If that fails then it's likely either the mic coil or a problem with the contacts at or coming from the USB connector.
Mike
I say something more. Now i hear myself on voice note but really quiet like 1/10 normal volume.
neonq said:
I say something more. Now i hear myself on voice note but really quiet like 1/10 normal volume.
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Yes, but even with an open circuit / damaged coil, cracked connection, you can sometimes have sufficient leakage current to get a faint response from things like microphones and speakers. I still think it's probably hardware - but thoroughly check all the software possibilities eg clean install, stock ROM etc.
Hm i open hermes but im noob in that stuff so everythink look fine for me with microphone. I clean that think to protecting microfone. The problem of couse dont disappear. But.. its look like always when I plug in usb to spv, microphone start working fine.. Not always but moust of time it is solution.. If it is a hardware what i should to recommand to replace in service? Microphone?
ignore me, re-read what you put and decided i was a nab

In call volume - what is going on?!

I know that this topic comes up again and again but wht has nothign been done about it? When I call SE they don't acknowledge that there is a problem - has nobody else contacted them about this?
My phone is not rooted - has anyone who has rooted their phone increased the volume? Is there a solution anywhere out there?!
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I know that this topic comes up again and again but wht has nothign been done about it? When I call SE they don't acknowledge that there is a problem - has nobody else contacted them about this?
My phone is not rooted - has anyone who has rooted their phone increased the volume? Is there a solution anywhere out there?!
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I was going just say WHAT???? I can't hear you! but that would just be mean
I'm up to 026 rooted and the volume seems the same to me. Only good news is that using a Bluetooth earpiece solves the problem ... now if only I could use the BT to voice dial.
the actual volume of the speaker is pretty decent, like when your in test mode you can hear a significant difference. I guess some idiot at SE decided to keep it low.
Izzy_Deadyet said:
I was going just say WHAT???? I can't hear you! but that would just be mean
I'm up to 026 rooted and the volume seems the same to me. Only good news is that using a Bluetooth earpiece solves the problem ... now if only I could use the BT to voice dial.
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I bought a BT earpiece so I can use while driving and it does make the volume much better....I cant get the BT to "activate" voice dialling on the phone - should it be able to? Have you manage that? The voice dialer standard app on phone is a joke I still therefore have to dial the person I want to call and once that is started then the BT takes over....have you managed anything better than that?
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the actual volume of the speaker is pretty decent, like when your in test mode you can hear a significant difference. I guess some idiot at SE decided to keep it low.
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Yes I know I have seen this....so why oh why oh why when SE must/should be aware of low volume havent they increased it instead of messing around with non-essential things like Creatouch/Timescape?
I just wish they would acknowledge the problem and let people know either they were going to fix it and if they cant fix it then i can get rid of the phone! Sp far they just seem to pretend it doesnt have a problem eg when calling customer services they say that nobody has reported any problems....
I have contacted se about this too. It is mt biggest stumbling block with this otherwise sound phone. Come on se FIX IT!
ear piece volume is for sure lot less than many phones I used. Much less than SE's own phones. I almost can't talk on it in noisy streets or I take out my bluetooth head set.
Unfortunately, I love the phone so much that I decided to adjust to several issues X10 has. When I first got the phone I had so many little issues with the phone that bothered be but over time I adapted myself to it
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I bought a BT earpiece so I can use while driving and it does make the volume much better....I cant get the BT to "activate" voice dialling on the phone - should it be able to? Have you manage that? The voice dialer standard app on phone is a joke I still therefore have to dial the person I want to call and once that is started then the BT takes over....have you managed anything better than that?
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Android 1.6 doesn't do BT voice dial.
It might sound kinda stupid but make sure that the ear speaker is direct to your ear, which means that your ear will be covered by half the phone and not all of it ( unlike my previous nokia phones) pretty stupid I know but I hope it helps.
sent from my x10i that is banging for a 2.1 upgrade. ...
Am I the only person who has no problem with volume?
rocketpaul said:
Am I the only person who has no problem with volume?
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Sort of depends on the conditions you use it under. If you're in a conference room it would work better than if you're in a shopping mall.
I've had mobile phones since 1988 (22 years of wireless) and I can tell you that the X10 has the worst in call volume I've ever experienced.
I imagine that somebody at SE must be aware of this.
rocketpaul said:
Am I the only person who has no problem with volume?
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Count me in. But like I mentioned earlier I love the phone so much for it's style and so many other things that I decided to adapt to it. I use bluetooth in noisy places. I normally hate having bluetooth hang on my ear in public. So, I put it in my pocket and take it out when I get a call. Fortunately, there are not many calls I need to answer right away.
I too have this problem so I bought SE's MW600, well worth it but I hope they sort this problem soon.
My K800i had a fantasic earpiece sound quality and volume but my previous SE C905 was terrible and the X10i is worse still!
Sent from my X10i using XDA App
yess , volume is very low when in-call
SE should do something
i;ve had p990 , p910 , p1 , and x10
and they all suffer from this problem
rocketpaul said:
Am I the only person who has no problem with volume?
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+1...It's a bit quieter than most other phones I've had, but conversations are still fine.
The way everyone's talking about it, it seems like a huge deal. I've heard that (it was about the Evo 4G because many people complain about call quality on it too) when custom ROMs can be booted, the devs can increase in-call volume.
chris_knows;7454879 when custom ROMs can be booted said:
And we are all eager to see that day...
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johnaachen said:
Yes I know I have seen this....so why oh why oh why when SE must/should be aware of low volume havent they increased it instead of messing around with non-essential things like Creatouch/Timescape?
I just wish they would acknowledge the problem and let people know either they were going to fix it and if they cant fix it then i can get rid of the phone! Sp far they just seem to pretend it doesnt have a problem eg when calling customer services they say that nobody has reported any problems....
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maybe they said nobody has reported the problem because they couldn't hear the callers either. sorry, just couldn't resist that!
anyway, i do agree that this is the worst phone i've ever had in terms of caller volume. unless i'm in a quiet room, it's utterly useless. the only remedy i've found so far is to use the speaker phone, which is not a good solution at all!
while i do love the X10, if the issue still isn't resolved with the 2.1 upgrade, i may just go back to my old phone, because while the X10 is indeed quite smart, it sure as hell isn't much of a phone!
How can people honestly say this is not a problem?
We all have the in-call volume set to max and it's barely acceptable, set to half-way/normal which on many other devices would be sufficient and it's hardly audible unless you're in a library. Setting my Blackberry's in-call volume to max actually hurts my ears it's so loud! But ideally that's the kind of dynamic range in volume I'd like to see, no...hear SE implement.
If I had to guess, I would say that SE was having trouble finding a balance between finding an acceptable in call volume level and having a problem with echoing in calls. The louder the speaker is, the more susceptible it is to echo. There is no other reasonable explanation as to why its so low. Especially in a flagship phone. As a device, this phone is stellar, but as a phone, its pretty bad.
The last post basically echos my latest communique with SE. Their reply is below:
Dear Sir/Madam,
Thank you for contacting the Sony Ericsson support centre regarding your X10
Andriod 2.1 is due for release within Q3 of 2010, this may be subject to change however.
This should resolve the audio issues you have explained.
Kind Regards,
Stephanie Purvis
Sony Ericsson UK Customer Services
Looks like they know but are not too bothered about it! Certainly does not appear to be a priority............................

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