Hi there,
I just did the ROM upgrade on my phone from 1.48 to 1.66. After using SPB Backup to restore my files from 1.48, I had an issue with the restoration (HTC Sense refused to load) and had to hard reset. The restoration then worked fine, but I checked my ROM now and it's back to 1.48. Was it the hard reset I did after my failed restoration? Am I going to have to install the ROM update every time I want to hard reset my phone? This was my first upgrade, so be gentle!
Thanks,
David
if the rom version is reading anything but 1.66 then the flash failed. a hard reset will not change the installed rom. I would guess either the flash to 1.66 failed, our for some reason your backup software restored some system files that shouldn't have been backed up.
that's why I never back anything up(well except syncing contacts of course, and keeping my data on sd card)
always better to spend half hour re installing progs from scratch in my opinion.
Don't think the ROM upgrade failed - went through the whole thing without problems. Going to give it another go just now - will hard reset my phone and see what ROM details it gives me after.
The ROM version is stored in the registry in order for windows and windows apps to access it. This gets set when you install a new ROM, so that software doesn't have to query the ROM directly in order to get the version number.
I'm guessing that you use SPB Backup to backup your registry too?
If so, after your hard reset just check the version number before you do a restore, and then again after, and you should see the version change from 1.66 back to what it was previously.
restoring the system from an spb backup file will NOT change the rom version displayed in settings. SPB BAckup knows when the rom version is different and even tells you this when you restore your system from a backup that was created in a different rom version.
Audio Oblivion said:
restoring the system from an spb backup file will NOT change the rom version displayed in settings. SPB BAckup knows when the rom version is different and even tells you this when you restore your system from a backup that was created in a different rom version.
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I guess there must be different versions of SPB backup floating round then, because I got this information from a thread a while ago where several people had this exact issue.
Guess we'll have to wait and see the outcome.
Haven't done the ROM update again, but just out of interest, I have SPB Backup 2.1.0, build 3536.
CloneboyZA said:
Haven't done the ROM update again, but just out of interest, I have SPB Backup 2.1.0, build 3536.
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You shouldn't need a complete reflash to see if that's the problem. A hard reset will be enough. If it still says it's not 1.66, then definitely flash it again.
johncmolyneux said:
I guess there must be different versions of SPB backup floating round then
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possibly...
i have version 2.10 build 3536 myself and use it ALL the time.
after a rom flash i run the exe that SPB Backup creates for a backup and go through the restore process. SPB BAckup checks the rom version on your device and if it is different it tells you so... you must then run the retore in "rom upgrade" mode. Your ROM version will NOT change.
Maybe it is the "rom upgrade" mode that CloneboyZA missed?
Audio Oblivion said:
possibly...
i have version 2.10 build 3536 myself and use it ALL the time.
after a rom flash i run the exe that SPB Backup creates for a backup and go through the restore process. SPB BAckup checks the rom version on your device and if it is different it tells you so... you must then run the retore in "rom upgrade" mode. Your ROM version will NOT change.
Maybe it is the "rom upgrade" mode that CloneboyZA missed?
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Confirmed.
Well, SPB Backup wasn't picking up the ROM upgrade - had to put it into forced ROM upgrade mode. Did a hard reset, and just restored program files and PIM data - the ROM version is showing correctly now as 1.66. Think I'll do what was suggested - only restore PIM data, and reinstall everyhting one by one. Just frustrating to spend all that time doing it - what use is SPB backup then?
PS Also lost my Footprints that I created - any idea where they are stored so I can restore them ?
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Hi Everyone,
Which Backup program do you use? Is there one you recommend? All this hacking my Cingular 8525 around has had me hard-reset at least twice within the last week. I need a good and reliable backup program since installing all of my software is taking me over 2.5 hours of time.
Thanks for responding.
ADP
spb backup has never let me down.well worth trying.
sprite also gets good reviews but I've never used it.
read http://www.pocketpcmag.com/blogs/index.php?blog=3&p=1270&more=1&c=1&tb=1&pb=1
I've tried different backup programs with my TyTN.
I found that the only perfect working program is SPB Backup.
I've already restored my data after hard reset with this program (not once) and all is good.
i use spb also, works great
I vote for spb as well.
Although keep in mind that it only does back up system settings and core software installed in device (not sure what exactly), not the whole file system of your PDA. My problem was, I deleted some files and uninstalled some programs after backing up, and after restore they were not there! (just blank icons).
I would love to mirror my whole device on PC hard drive, yet I am not sure about software for this purpose.
how well does spb backup perform when you do a ROM upgrade?
MilanoRex said:
how well does spb backup perform when you do a ROM upgrade?
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Whatever backup product you use, DON'T EVEN THINK ABOUT applying a backup from a different ROM version. You're asking for serious trouble.
Simply put, if you update your ROM, you're also plan on reinstalling everything clean from scratch...
mnez said:
I vote for spb as well.
Although keep in mind that it only does back up system settings and core software installed in device (not sure what exactly), not the whole file system of your PDA. My problem was, I deleted some files and uninstalled some programs after backing up, and after restore they were not there! (just blank icons).
I would love to mirror my whole device on PC hard drive, yet I am not sure about software for this purpose.
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Mobile Deployment
Deploy an identical policy based corporate image to all your mobile devices. From the original creators of the industry leading Symantec GhostTM cloning solution, Sprite Clone provides rapid and reliable deployment to multiple mobile devices thereby assuring consistency and cost effectiveness...
http://www.spritesoftware.com/sprite-clone
goestoeleven said:
Whatever backup product you use, DON'T EVEN THINK ABOUT applying a backup from a different ROM version. You're asking for serious trouble.
Simply put, if you update your ROM, you're also plan on reinstalling everything clean from scratch...
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Sprite Backup works perfectly with ROM and DEVICE upgrades.. I switched from my Wizard to my Hermes without any problems..
MilanoRex said:
how well does spb backup perform when you do a ROM upgrade?
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Use Sprite Backup in this case, it'll work unless you try to cross-restore between AKU2.x and AKU3.x. And please DO read my above-linked article; in there, I've also elaborated on this very question.
bobstarina said:
I found that the only perfect working program is SPB Backup.
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Strange you had problems with the otehr alternates (Sunnysoft Backup, SKTools 3.0, Sprite 5.1). Are you sure you tried the LATEST versions of them? It's only lately that, for example, Sunnysoft Backup received REAL WM5 support.
Also please read the Backup Bible I've linked in above if you need more info on all these questions.
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Sprite Backup works perfectly with ROM and DEVICE upgrades.. I switched from my Wizard to my Hermes without any problems..
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Both of you are correct. Sprite DOES work great in most cases, except for restoring AKU3 content under AKU2 and vice versa.
does restoreing after a ROM upgrade using Sprite also keep your current registry changes as well...or do i have to do all registry hacks all over again...or even after just a hard reset not a ROM upgrade do i still have to enter the reg. edits all over again....
Sprite works well for me
strikeIII said:
does restoreing after a ROM upgrade using Sprite also keep your current registry changes as well...or do i have to do all registry hacks all over again...or even after just a hard reset not a ROM upgrade do i still have to enter the reg. edits all over again....
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It will restore your registry changes too. Otehrwise, it wouldn't work at all with a lot of third-party apps that also use the Registry to store their stuff / settings.
Does anyone know if Spb backup will back up outlook notes?
Sprite is the only one worth getting since you can restore after a ROM or device change Just make sure you RTFM before you go changing anything as there are things you need to do before hand
Interesting to hear that Sprite Backup works without problems for all of you. On my TyTN, when it wants to reboot before beginning a backup, the TyTN gets stuck at the Windows Mobile screen. Removing/re-inserting the battery usually allows the boot process to finish - but only until the next reboot. After that, all subsequent reboots show that behaviour, no matter if initiated by Sprite Backup or otherwise. And very strangley, after a day or two this phenomenon disappears slowly. A hard reset fixes the problem immediately - at least until I re-install Sprite Backup or restore an (executable) backup I made earlier.
What's even more strange is that this seems to be reproducable, even across different ROM versions. I saw that first with the O2 Germany ROM my Trion came with, and also after I updated to the south-african WWE ROM.
Cheers
Daniel
I've installed a ton of stuff in my 1.18 version phone. I just got some BT 620 stereo bluetooth headsets and the music only plays for a few seconds. I want to try the 1.35 ROM's. Can I successfully backup my entire Hermes, do the upgrade, and then restore?
If so, what backup software should I use? SPB Backup says "use at your own risk" for ROM upgrades and Sprite Backup outlines a method.
I definitely understand that if you backup registry stuff, and the underlying settings in the ROM cause the registry settings to change, you are just asking for trouble. Kind of like taking a bunch of windows 95 registry settings and jamming into Vista.
TIA
Knox
newtronic said:
I've installed a ton of stuff in my 1.18 version phone. I just got some BT 620 stereo bluetooth headsets and the music only plays for a few seconds. I want to try the 1.35 ROM's. Can I successfully backup my entire Hermes, do the upgrade, and then restore?
If so, what backup software should I use? SPB Backup says "use at your own risk" for ROM upgrades and Sprite Backup outlines a method.
I definitely understand that if you backup registry stuff, and the underlying settings in the ROM cause the registry settings to change, you are just asking for trouble. Kind of like taking a bunch of windows 95 registry settings and jamming into Vista.
TIA
Knox
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You can if you revert back to the original ROM Version, you already answered the ? about the registry and I can tell you already some has changed from 1.18 to 1.35 I just did this upgrade this week.
Just to be clear, I am understanding from what you said that there were registry changes from 1.18 to 1.35 and so don't do a backup/upgrade to 1.35/restore.
Thanks! I guess I'll plan on a day of re-installing everything.
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Just to be clear, I am understanding from what you said that there were registry changes from 1.18 to 1.35 and so don't do a backup/upgrade to 1.35/restore.
Thanks! I guess I'll plan on a day of re-installing everything.
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That is correct sorry I was not clear.
It seems Sprite Backup can do the job. There is an unique feature from Sprite Backup called the Upgrade Mode Restore which supports to restore a backup file made before ROM upgrade or changing to a new device.
For more information you may need to visit their FAQ at
http://www.spritesoftware.com/faq
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It seems Sprite Backup can do the job. There is an unique feature from Sprite Backup called the Upgrade Mode Restore which supports to restore a backup file made before ROM upgrade or changing to a new device.
For more information you may need to visit their FAQ at
http://www.spritesoftware.com/faq
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Yes but it is still not a sure thing. You may incur additional lockups and freezes. It is much better to re-install your apps manually.
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Yes but it is still not a sure thing. You may incur additional lockups and freezes. It is much better to re-install your apps manually.
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If you read the FAQ first and do it all correctly it will work. Most ppl go ahead and upgrade their ROM then they find they get problems simply restoring the backup image. You have to run the upgrade util on the old, hard reset ROM to get the correct .sbu file, this is the most common mistake ppl make, I have restored after ROM upgrade many times and not had any issues, you just need to do it correctly...step by step I suggest read the FAQ first, it is less time consuming than reinstalling all your apps and reconfiguring your device The only thing you cannot restore are POP accounts, they have to be deleted before the initial backup, then recreated, on the new ROM
Well, finally I tried the (official) upgrade from WM5 (1.8.407.1) to WM6.
I found detailed instructions using SpriteBackup 3.14 or higher. And since Version 5.01 were deliverd with my Herald, I gave it a try!
But that's were this endless night began...
The instructions used "GetUpgradeData.exe" from Sprite Software.
This is what I did:
- I created a complete Backup with Sprite Backup 5.01.
- I did a hard-reset.
- I run the "GetUpgradeData.exe" and got a sbu-file I stored.
- I actually performed the ROM-upgrade
- I installed Sprite Backup.
But wenn I tried to restore the Backup I made earlier I didn't found the "Upgrade-Mode" that was mentioned in the instructions and which I created the sbu-file for.
On the Sprite-Homepage, I got the information, that this functions seems to exist only since 5.1!
So I installed the newest version as trial. But this damn software doesn't restore backup made with older versions of itself! :-O
Since I found no possibility to makes Sprite Backup 6 *do* this, I decided to give 5.01 a try nevertheless. But it didn't work. I actually can't remember anymore, what error came exactly in this situation, but I realized it would work.
Since then I look for a downgrade to restore my backup on good old WM5.0 and try the whole szenario with Sprite 5.1 (I don't like 6).
I actually *found* a WM5-ROM, but it's not 1.8.407.1, it's 5.4.407.1.
- I "updated" the ROM, WM5 runs fine.
- I installed Sprite 5.01.
- I run Sprite 5.01 and got an error mentioning to little free memory!
- I performed a hard-reset, installed Sprite and tried to restore selected parts of the backup to need less memory. It ends successful, but during the following Warm-Start I get repeatetly the error that "The last cold-start" wasn't complete. So it performs a new reset by itself.
And that *are* my possibilities:
- restore all and have to little memory
or
- restore parts an get this weird error.
Why is this? and How can I change it?
I still have the hope that a 1.8.407.1-ROM would fix all problems. But where to take from. :-((
Any ideas how I can save my Herald? Please? It's 7am now an I'm puzzeling for 5 hours now. I want everything back to normal! :-(
Thanks for every help you can give me...
I didn´t really read the howl thread - but
NEVER try to take a WM5 backup to work with a WM6 Rom!!!
You never treid to use a Windows 95 backup on a Windows Vista PC???
So why you wanne restore a backup from a complete different Rom??
Install all new. NEVER use a backup when flashing a new rom.
Just my 2 cents
papamopps said:
I didn´t really read the howl thread
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No matter. It's just one posting. ;-)
NEVER try to take a WM5 backup to work with a WM6 Rom!!!
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Just my 2 cents
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Well, my two, too, until yesterdey, when I learnd about that option in Sprite Backup. I quote from the manual of "Sprite Backup 6":
http://www.spritesoftware.com/downloads/SpriteBackupHelp.pdf said:
Setting Upgrade Mode Options
Sprite Backup automatically detects if the restore process is being performed between different devices or ROM versions and automatically enables this function and you will be asked to select the type of 'Upgrade Mode' operation you wish to perform.
ROM: Use this option to perform restore operations between the same devices with different ROM revisions. For example: restoring from a KJAM ROM 2.16.9 to a KJAM AKU2 ROM version.
Device: Use this option when you wish to restore across devices and ROM versions. For example: When restoring a backup file created on a WM2005 KJAM device onto a WM 2006 JAZJAR device.
Safe: If your device does not boot after performing a ‘ROM Upgrade’ or ‘Device Upgrade’ restore use the ‘Safe Upgrade’ operation.
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The problem is that my version of Sprite Backup does not have this capability unexpectetly. Which I realized when it was to late.
one comment of a nearly flashaddict:
i ALLWAYS install all new. it is much faster after a few month when you make a hardreset and flash new......
believe me. i flashed so many roms - and allways installed it completely new!!
Sure you are right. And actually that's my choice now.
I made it to restore at least my personal data in WM5, backed them up new and restorem *them* on new installed WM6.
Now I'm on the configurating, installing, reconstructing part. :-((
Hiya,
Just got my HD and loving it.
I am about to flash Dutty's 1.5 rom to it and as I haven't installed much yet, not much of an issue..
Once I've got it set up as I want it, not sure if I want to go through installing everything each time.
Now SPB creates auto extracting backups, is it wise to use this to restore the apps after a new rom version?
Cheers,
Paul.
MrRalphMan said:
Hiya,
Just got my HD and loving it.
I am about to flash Dutty's 1.5 rom to it and as I haven't installed much yet, not much of an issue..
Once I've got it set up as I want it, not sure if I want to go through installing everything each time.
Now SPB creates auto extracting backups, is it wise to use this to restore the apps after a new rom version?
Cheers,
Paul.
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Not recommended by SPB although the application does have a ROM change option (??):
http://faq.spbsoftwarehouse.com/content/7/16/en/can-i-restore-my-data-after-the-rom-upgrade.html
Confusing: here is the manual (v 2.0):
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Device and ROM Upgrade Modes
Now you can safely upgrade your device ROM or change your device and seamlessly restore your data. Spb Backup will automatically detect if the restore process is being performed between different devices or ROM versions and prompt you to select the upgrade mode to perform.
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i've been having loads of issues since upgrading to the new stock ROM (3.14.405.2), everytime i try to open skyfire or send an MMS it gives and error saying 'not eneough memory, free up some memory and try again' i keep checking the task manager and there aren't any other apps working. the photo tab on manila hangs almost all the time as well. have tried removing CHT 2.0 but that didn't help at all...infact without CHT it dosent even seem like the same phone it.
i did a full restore using spb...not sure if that had anything to do with it.
clean up and move cache folders as described in tips and tricks thread
SreePillai said:
i've been having loads of issues since upgrading to the new stock ROM (3.14.405.2)....
i did a full restore using spb...not sure if that had anything to do with it.
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Yes, the restore is the problem. After a ROM upgrade you can only bring your documents, contacts and calender - if you try to bring the old system files & registry as well you will have only trouble. Hard reset and start from scratch.
SreePillai said:
i've been having loads of issues since upgrading to the new stock ROM (3.14.405.2), everytime i try to open skyfire or send an MMS it gives and error saying 'not eneough memory, free up some memory and try again' i keep checking the task manager and there aren't any other apps working. the photo tab on manila hangs almost all the time as well. have tried removing CHT 2.0 but that didn't help at all...infact without CHT it dosent even seem like the same phone it.
i did a full restore using spb...not sure if that had anything to do with it.
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Thanks. I think it's not a good idea for me to upgrade to stock rom now. I am using sprite backup on 1.48.xxxx wwe rom and I am quite happy with that rom with htc updates installed manually on the device.
May be you have already tried that but if you would use sprite backup then there is an option of merge level 1 in restore options of sprite backup which will try to restore your backup to a new rom from an old rom backup (as in your case). I don't know that such option exist in spb backup as I don't use that program.
If you haven't tried it yet you may do so and I am not the promoter of sprite backup as some ppl. may take me wrong. It was just my 2 cent advice.
Thanks again.