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i want to upgrade to the N1 when it hits sprint, i hope soon?
anyways im hearing the phone itself won't be in sprint stores and you cannot get it serviced at sprint either. you have to buy it online from google and send it in for repairs, is this true? if soo i smell a BIG fail coming. will the phone even be branded with a sprint logo at all?
Why is this posted in the HERO forum?
That sounds consistent with how the N1 has been sold so far, as far as I know.
fixxxer2008 said:
i want to upgrade to the N1 when it hits sprint, i hope soon?
anyways im hearing the phone itself won't be in sprint stores and you cannot get it serviced at sprint either. you have to buy it online from google and send it in for repairs, is this true? if soo i smell a BIG fail coming. will the phone even be branded with a sprint logo at all?
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Well that has been their trend so far with the other carriers, so it's very possible, but it's kind of to early to tell art this point
That's Google's new method--buy from google.com/phone and don't worry about anything else.
Who cares if it's Sprint branded? As long as it's considered an upgrade you'll get your nice price.
fixxxer2008 said:
i want to upgrade to the N1 when it hits sprint, i hope soon?
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That would be great if you got an N1.
Is_907 said:
That's Google's new method--buy from google.com/phone and don't worry about anything else.
Who cares if it's Sprint branded? As long as it's considered an upgrade you'll get your nice price.
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Well, the problem is that since you bought it from google.com, when you have problems and call Sprint for help, they can say "You have to call Google."
Of course, Google doesn't seem to have any publicly available phone numbers for you to call, so you're stuck with their worthless message boards...
Plus, if the actual hardware craps out, you can't walk into a Sprint store and get it replaced the same afternoon, you have to deal with shipping in two directions and be without a phone for a week....
Or at least that seems to be the major complaint about the N1 currently on the market....
just wait for the evo 4g, its got better specs then the nexus and a bigger screen,
No, just wait even more, pre 2011, dual core Snapdragon 1.5ghz phones running android will be out. If you buy the Evo, you'll wish you had waited lol
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just wait for the evo 4g, its got better specs then the nexus and a bigger screen,
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i have no 4g here in michigan plus i don't like the design.
agentofboom said:
That would be great if you got an N1.
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what does that mean? if it's about before please give it a rest already!
id like to keep this thread clean and on topic. i put this here because alot of users will be leaving the hero when the n1 & evo come out.
agentofboom said:
That would be great if you got an N1.
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Is_907 said:
That's Google's new method--buy from google.com/phone and don't worry about anything else.
Who cares if it's Sprint branded? As long as it's considered an upgrade you'll get your nice price.
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i just think the idea of going without a phone while it's in for repairs is stupid when there are local sprint repair centers. i don't see this going over well with sprint customers if they follow past suit.
regaw_leinad said:
No, just wait even more, pre 2011, dual core Snapdragon 1.5ghz phones running android will be out. If you buy the Evo, you'll wish you had waited lol
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if you pay 69.99+ with sprint, you can get the full upgrade every 365 days so by the time that all happens, you can get a DC snapdragon 1.5 right around the corner and still have an EVO
fixxxer2008 said:
i just think the idea of going without a phone while it's in for repairs is stupid when there are local sprint repair centers. i don't see this going over well with sprint customers if they follow past suit.
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Sprint customers whine too damn much anyway.
agentofboom said:
That would be great if you got an N1.
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Yes I would have to agree
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i just think the idea of going without a phone while it's in for repairs is stupid when there are local sprint repair centers. i don't see this going over well with sprint customers if they follow past suit.
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Hang on to your hero then. I still have every phone in my sig as a backup. I'm glad that google is doing SOMETHING to shake up the status quo a bit. Remember if you buy phones that are sold and supported by sprint, you'll have to wait on sprint for things like android 2.1, just like we're doing now. If google is able to get sprint (and other us carriers) to budge from their traditional phone-tied-to-carrier model, it'll just put us one step closer to breaking the wireless phone oligopoly.
Many years ago, you had to buy your land line telephones from your land line provider. They were sold and supported there, and they had very high costs. Then over time, that changed and people bought phones that weren't branded by their carrier. (or supported by them either, omg!). I'm sure it was a very scary time, but think about how ridiculous that sounds today.
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yeah, yeah...well ill make sure when i get it i come back to bug you some more.
Fix, i have no idea what will happen when the N1 launches? Im torn between the N1 and the EVO.
My god people, let the past go. he has the right to start a thread. Just like children around here sometimes. It's getting old already.
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Hang on to your hero then. I still have every phone in my sig as a backup. I'm glad that google is doing SOMETHING to shake up the status quo a bit. Remember if you buy phones that are sold and supported by sprint, you'll have to wait on sprint for things like android 2.1, just like we're doing now. If google is able to get sprint (and other us carriers) to budge from their traditional phone-tied-to-carrier model, it'll just put us one step closer to breaking the wireless phone oligopoly.
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Ah, I am just flicking ya ****!
I am not real impressed with the way they have handled their phone either!
I do agree with this above, things like this tend to change the way company's think!
Roman
Jesus, I already have my T-Mobile version and it doesn't hurt me but I really don't like Sprint (and Verizon) giving hopeful N1 customers the finger.
Its not that they just said no to subsidizing the phone... its that since they work off a CDMA network (non sim cards) they will just block the phone entirely off their network. Even if you had a Sprint compatible version and called them up to activate it they would tell you no. Greedy SOB's.
I wanted the N1 to become a smartphone standard across all 4 carriers so that Google would continue to produce it for a LONG time and come out with subsequent versions over time. But with just two carriers supporting it I am scared Google might abandon it long term due to low sales.
http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/10/sprint-cans-nexus-one-in-favor-of-evo-4g/
Doesn't matter to you or me. We've got one of 2 current gen standard bearers (other being the Milestone/Droid) and ours doesn't have to go through a carrier to get OS updates.
All the apps will be built with us in mind, so fewer bugs and possibly more apps. We're basically Android Dev Phone 3. Nothing wrong with that at all. This is a loss for Sprint customers only, and the size of that loss is debatable.
Sucks to be a sprint customer. Will the EVO be better than the Nexus One? On paper, yes.. however that has yet to be seen. Most (or some) of us thought the N1 would be overshadowed by the Droid Incredible but that wasn't the case at all.
EVO vs Nexus One .... coming soon.
I wonder who's decision it was to cancel these phones...
Verizon, Sprint, Google, or HTC?
Who's to blame here?
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I wonder who's decision it was to cancel these phones...
Verizon, Sprint, Google, or HTC?
Who's to blame here?
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Good question. If it was Google, I think they bailed just before the vindication of the N1. I am reading about perceived "issues" with the Incredible and Desire similar to those on the N1 regarding 3g coverage. The N1 is a damn fine phone, and Verizon and Sprint users are missing out on an absolute gem with a better forward path than anything else in the hardware queue.
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I wonder who's decision it was to cancel these phones...
Verizon, Sprint, Google, or HTC?
Who's to blame here?
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Its DEF Sprint's and Verizon's fault the phone was cancelled. Google could easily put in a different radio (like they did with the ATT version) but Sprint and Verizon can just refuse to activate the phone on their network like they did. ATT and TMo didn't have a choice since they use sim cards. Sprint and Verizon are evil companies that force their customers into more expensive options instead of giving them choices
Same reason the verizon deal fell through. both spring and verizon are very controlled networks. Googles wants to essentially turn the cell phone system into an europe-esque system where phones and service are seperate entities.
Each nexus phone has to be programs for verizon or sprint. They probably couldn't come to terms with an appropriate price and management. They'd have to have the phones programmed before being shipped out, one more step and one more cost.
Then you have the headaches of pushing out updates. We saw how long it took Droid to get the 2.1 update. If you want to update a sprint android phone you have to take it to a retail store to do it!
thats a damn shame
sprint cancelled (probably, i'm just guessing here) for the same reason verizon did. they have a top notch android phone coming out, for which they reap the benefits of sales. why would they chop that by catering to a phone that would only compete with their own sales, but they don't get sales money for? neither att nor tmo have a better phone right now.
btw, i love my nexus one. i can see why they would worry, lol. incredible is a nice phone, but the chick i'm hanging out with just got one, i played with it, and i prefer my N1, tbh
have to get a sprint phone for clinics though this june, so hoping the evo gets out early june phone n1, but evo for hanging out with and playing
down with verizon and sprint they suck. Everytime I saw a sprint phone on that TV show, heroes I thought.... ugh, fags
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sprint cancelled (probably, i'm just guessing here) for the same reason verizon did. they have a top notch android phone coming out, for which they reap the benefits of sales.
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If Sprint or Verizon doesn't want to subsidize the N1 because they want to push their own phone that's fine. But blocking an unlocked N1 from using their network just for the sake of being ****'s and forcing people into more expensive options? That's just bullsh*t and shouldn't be tolerated
Just because customers getting screwed happens in American business doesn't make it acceptable...
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If Sprint or Verizon doesn't want to subsidize the N1 because they want to push their own phone that's fine. But blocking an unlocked N1 from using their network just for the sake of being ****'s and forcing people into more expensive options? That's just bullsh*t and shouldn't be tolerated
Just because customers getting screwed happens in American business doesn't make it acceptable...
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well, i don't want to get too far off topic, because this is all just speculation. however, now htc doesn't have to worry about manufacturing a cdma version at all, so it saves everyone a lot of hassle
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sprint cancelled (probably, i'm just guessing here) for the same reason verizon did. they have a top notch android phone coming out, for which they reap the benefits of sales. why would they chop that by catering to a phone that would only compete with their own sales, but they don't get sales money for? neither att nor tmo have a better phone right now.
btw, i love my nexus one. i can see why they would worry, lol. incredible is a nice phone, but the chick i'm hanging out with just got one, i played with it, and i prefer my N1, tbh
have to get a sprint phone for clinics though this june, so hoping the evo gets out early june phone n1, but evo for hanging out with and playing
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Post a pic of the chick!
timothydonohue said:
neither att nor tmo have a better phone right now.
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The Samsung Galaxy S would like to have a word with you.
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Jesus, I already have my T-Mobile version and it doesn't hurt me but I really don't like Sprint (and Verizon) giving hopeful N1 customers the finger.
Its not that they just said no to subsidizing the phone... its that since they work off a CDMA network (non sim cards) they will just block the phone entirely off their network. Even if you had a Sprint compatible version and called them up to activate it they would tell you no. Greedy SOB's.
I wanted the N1 to become a smartphone standard across all 4 carriers so that Google would continue to produce it for a LONG time and come out with subsequent versions over time. But with just two carriers supporting it I am scared Google might abandon it long term due to low sales.
http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/10/sprint-cans-nexus-one-in-favor-of-evo-4g/
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I partially agree with the OP here, it would be nice to have this across all carriers, but in all honesty, CDMA is just not something that is well supported outside the US. Having GSM is key since it is more the worldwide standard. I don't think not having CDMA is going to really hurt things for this device.
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sprint cancelled (probably, i'm just guessing here) for the same reason verizon did. they have a top notch android phone coming out, for which they reap the benefits of sales. why would they chop that by catering to a phone that would only compete with their own sales, but they don't get sales money for? neither att nor tmo have a better phone right now.
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That makes no sense at all. Even if they didn't subsidize the phone, like AT&T, someone could buy the N1 100% with their own money, and then throw their money at Verizon/Sprint for the voice and data plans. All I could see is a net PLUS of subscribers on their networks. Now if someone reallly wants an N1, they'd be thinking T-Mobile / AT&T; a net LOSS of subscribers for Verizon/Sprint.
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however, now htc doesn't have to worry about manufacturing a cdma version at all, so it saves everyone a lot of hassle
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Except HTC probably already had the CDMA N1, or was FAR into the development of it. It saves hassle for everyone except HTC, who wasted a lot of time and effort.
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The Samsung Galaxy S would like to have a word with you.
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A camera with no flash. 'nuff said.
Verizon and Sprint have a much much more closed network than Att or T-mobile. They wan't entire control of what goes on the network.
I don't think anyone would care because sprint customers would probably be waiting for EVO 4g..
personally, i really liked sprint. i had a heck of a plan with them, i got a lot of free upgrades without contract, and i always had a signal, no matter where i went. i did sometimes have to roam, but i had free roaming, so no big whoop.
i only switched over to tmo for the N1
So I had to unfortunate encounter of having to replace my new shiny tab because of an issue with the screen. However, I was told by the support tech that T-Mobile will roll out an update that will allow the device to be used as a fully functional phone around January. This is unconfirmed so far by official sources, but I thought it interesting nonetheless.
Cheers,
Robert
Hope it's true, it'll maybe encourage the other North American carriers to do the same.
For T-Mobile, it's probably cheaper than to have to writedown/restock all the returns as otherwise loyal T-Mobile customers are going to AT&T for Tabs, as well as not having to deal with all the failed flashes and the resulting "I don't know, it just stopped working" returns.
That will be lovely.
Seriously? I have 5 days left before I have to return my Tmo tab... I've been putting it off because really don't want to go AT&T...
Robert... I know you can't know for sure... but is your gut feeling that the support tech knew what he/she was talking about? How sure of it did they seem? eg any ambiguity on their part or did it seem like a done deal?
I'm on a few days left too. So tempted to return it for now and get a Nook to tide me over.
Would love phone functionality, but TMobile is doing my head in atm.
Rang them up earlier tonight to get my PAYG card sorted out (as can't update it online). With them wanting my social security number (don't have one) to my PIN number (never got one on a PAYG card), back to demanding my Social security number again (still don't have one), to them hanging up on me as I ask about phone functionality.
I'm at my wits end with Tmobile.
Guess it's going to end up being AT&T and flashed ROM I guess.
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So I had to unfortunate encounter of having to replace my new shiny tab because of an issue with the screen. However, I was told by the support tech that T-Mobile will roll out an update that will allow the device to be used as a fully functional phone around January. This is unconfirmed so far by official sources, but I thought it interesting nonetheless.
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Robert
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I was talking to T-Mo Tech Support last week about the built-in Qik application and asked him why we didn't have the phone capability. He told me that it would probably be added soon, but I didn't really believe him at the time, figuring he didn't really know what he was talking about. Now I'm beginning to wonder if I judged him too harshly. It will be interesting to see if they charge extra for it, or if it will be included in our current plan.
It wouldn't surprise me if they did. T-Moble usually takes much more of a global view towards their products than all the other US carriers do. I guess it makes sense since they're a European provider & based there.
I just ported my cell number last night from AT&T to Simple Mobile. I've had time to use both devices and running the AT&T Tab at over twice the cost per month just isn't worth it. I can buy a new Tab every year with the money I save!
If the rumor is true, then I'd expect to see a test rom leak out sometime soon.
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Seriously? I have 5 days left before I have to return my Tmo tab... I've been putting it off because really don't want to go AT&T...
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The support rep was incredibly knowledgable and is infact an xda member. He seemed fairly certain this change was going to be rolled out.
Heres my question. If they do roll out this update, are they going to unblock whatever it is they are blocking and allow us to use our sim from another phone, or are we going to have to update the data plan they sold us to another plan that has voice?
Sent from Jt's Samsung Galaxy Tab!!
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Heres my question. If they do roll out this update, are they going to unblock whatever it is they are blocking and allow us to use our sim from another phone, or are we going to have to update the data plan they sold us to another plan that has voice?
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Even though thats more of a rhetorical question, I'd guess that yes, they'd eliminate the block.
Just because the Tab has a larger screen than the Vibrant doesn't meant its any more of a data hog.
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Even though thats more of a rhetorical question, I'd guess that yes, they'd eliminate the block.
Just because the Tab has a larger screen than the Vibrant doesn't meant its any more of a data hog.
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I guess it will depend on how money hungry they are.
Well, I know AT&T will never officially update their device for this. God for bid they do anything to take customers away from the iphone or ipad!
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Heres my question. If they do roll out this update, are they going to unblock whatever it is they are blocking and allow us to use our sim from another phone, or are we going to have to update the data plan they sold us to another plan that has voice?
Sent from Jt's Samsung Galaxy Tab!!
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I would imagine that you would have to upgrade the plan.
I had an issue a little while ago and had to call into customer service. While i was on the phone, I asked the lady that was helping me about the possible update, and she told me there would be no updates pushed out from tmobile for the galaxy tab, they would all come straight from samsung. She told me i needed to check samsungs website for updates. Fixing to call back. I always get a different answer every single time i call them. Im not saying what the rep told you isnt true, im just adding what they told me.
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She's probably talking about Kies updates. But that is still a carrier-specific update, tied to the model number of the device.
In other words, Samsung is just the distributor, T-Mobile will still be the final arbiter on the updates.
SO get this, you guys know i work for t-mobile. A higher up told us the current tmo tab is going to be end of life soon.. RIGHT AFTER IT LAUNCHED..Because ...get this...."4G" Tab is coming out very soon. Honestly i could care less because Verizon/Att/Sprint/Tmo are all lies. there is no Such thing as 4G right now in the US, but we have not yet been educated on this update
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SO get this, you guys know i work for t-mobile. A higher up told us the current tmo tab is going to be end of life soon.. RIGHT AFTER IT LAUNCHED..Because ...get this...."4G" Tab is coming out very soon. Honestly i could care less because Verizon/Att/Sprint/Tmo are all lies. there is no Such thing as 4G right now in the US, but we have not yet been educated on this update
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Funny thing is, the current Tab IS 4G in terms of T-Mobile's marketing strategy, ie: Its already HSxPA capable, which is faster than other carriers 4G, hence the way they get away with marketing their Internet speeds as 4G, even though its not a new technology like Sprints.
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Funny thing is, the current Tab IS 4G in terms of T-Mobile's marketing strategy, ie: Its already HSxPA capable, which is faster than other carriers 4G, hence the way they get away with marketing their Internet speeds as 4G, even though its not a new technology like Sprints.
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But , correct me if im wrong, past HSPA enabled devices where maxed at 7.2 mbps, now the new HSPA+ devices ie. G2, Mytouch 4G are said to reach speeds of 42 mbps. I had a network tech in the store the other day and he was telling me how we are all ready done a full 4G conversion but they are playing the waiting game with Att/Verizon. Just like Comcast and Verizon. one advertises one speed then the 1 up each other every other month or so.
I'm actually waiting on either a ROM hack or an official phone inclusion before I buy the Tab. I simply can't see forking over this much dough on something that I can't use 24/7 like my HD2.
Thanks, OP, for the thread. I was about to start my own
is there any hope this would happen in the usa?
http://pocketnow.com/android/motorola-promises-android-bootloader-unlock-in-late-2011
"where carriers and operators will allow it"
Meaning: AT&T screws you.
LOL
Okay, then like HSUPA-gate, we need to start hammering AT&T with no end.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=988634
Indeed as if a carrier that blocks side-loading is going to be keen to unlock the bootloader...
Bell allows side-loading and wifi tethering out of the box but I'm not sure they'll get jump on this out of pure laziness and apathy.
Perhaps 'the solution' when released for one carrier could be applied to phones from others unless there are different encryption keys or something.
Well if bell allows it that would be awesome.
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So in other words, they will "maybe" unlock it after the phone is no longer relevant and the carriers say it's ok.
Gotcha.
Define relevant... ? I'm gonna keep this phone for a while.. It's got the internals of the future and it just needs the software to mature.
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is there any hope this would happen in the usa?
http://pocketnow.com/android/motorola-promises-android-bootloader-unlock-in-late-2011
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hahaha wow. I will have moved onto Samsung's Galaxy S II and this phone will be collecting dust....
Shaydar said:
"where carriers and operators will allow it"
Meaning: AT&T screws you.
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Exactly, this was a very vague announcement that didn't really guarantee anything. I'm more discouraged after this latest announcement than ever.
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Exactly, this was a very vague announcement that didn't really guarantee anything. I'm more discouraged after this latest announcement than ever.
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So you rather would have them say nothing than something?
This gives me hope that they are listening.
i fail to see how it's a vague announcement. They flat out said they intend to have unlockable/relockable bootloaders as found in the Xoom across all their phones by late 2011. We're already almost halfway through 2011. Granted, they do go on to say "where carriers and operators allow it"... but with all the flak Moto's been getting about it, i highly doubt AT&T hasn't seen it, and would probably get the same flak directed at them should they be the ones to hinder it.
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i fail to see how it's a vague announcement. They flat out said they intend to have unlockable/relockable bootloaders as found in the Xoom across all their phones by late 2011. We're already almost halfway through 2011. Granted, they do go on to say "where carriers and operators allow it"... but with all the flak Moto's been getting about it, i highly doubt AT&T hasn't seen it, and would probably get the same flak directed at them should they be the ones to hinder it.
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Lol if everyone found out it was just AT&T/Verizon/T-Mobile standing in their way of an unlocked bootloader, all hell would brake loose on forums and tech blogs. I can see all the headlines now.
I doubt much at all will come from this. I'll be extremely surprised if we ever see an official bootloader unlock from Motorola.
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i fail to see how it's a vague announcement. They flat out said they intend to have unlockable/relockable bootloaders as found in the Xoom across all their phones by late 2011. We're already almost halfway through 2011. Granted, they do go on to say "where carriers and operators allow it"... but with all the flak Moto's been getting about it, i highly doubt AT&T hasn't seen it, and would probably get the same flak directed at them should they be the ones to hinder it.
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Well, lets get this party started then.
I started a discussion in AT&T's facebook discussion. Link provided here: http://www.facebook.com/topic.php?uid=8576093908&topic=18121
Go put your two cents in if you like. I'm sure this would just be a starting point.
Someone above mentioned they will be on the Galaxy S II, how do you even go about selling your device for enough money to cancel your contract and buy a new phone off contract? (at the end of 2011 I'm pretty sure it will cost $200ish dollars to cancel your contract) plus buying any phone off contract costs atleast $600. How much money do you actually spend out of pocket and how much is covered by the selling of the phone? I know the longer you wait to sell the more it goes down.
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I don't think you have to cancel your contract? I just buy my phones off contract and swap my SIM card when I feel like using them.
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I don't think you have to cancel your contract? I just buy my phones off contract and swap my SIM card when I feel like using them.
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This. My only problem is I hope it won't be too expensive
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Yeah I don't bother to sell my old phones but upgrading mid-contract is my plan. With 3-year contracts to get any sort of significant discount here in Canada (although it got me my SGS for $25) you'd have to really use your device into the ground or pay a stiff ETF otherwise.
How much do you guys plan on selling it for?
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The more I read (which is entirely too much lately), the more it seems that the SG2 is going to take a long time to have an "official" release in the US. I try to put myself in the position of there possibly being two different consumers (one for the Infuse and one for the SG2). Unfortunately, I don't think there is a "need" for both devices. It really seems counterproductive for AT&T to release the SG2 so soon after the release of the Infuse.
Call me paranoid but, I would REALLY like to have a phone that isn't a gray item (for warranty). I have faith in the hardware but you never know with electronics.
Anyone have an opinion on it? I have an iP4 which is perfectly fine. I just REALLY want to get an Android device and would prefer to stay on AT&T (service locally is good, and I am on an unlimited data plan).
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The more I read (which is entirely too much lately), the more it seems that the SG2 is going to take a long time to have an "official" release in the US. I try to put myself in the position of there possibly being two different consumers (one for the Infuse and one for the SG2). Unfortunately, I don't think there is a "need" for both devices. It really seems counterproductive for AT&T to release the SG2 so soon after the release of the Infuse.
Call me paranoid but, I would REALLY like to have a phone that isn't a gray item (for warranty). I have faith in the hardware but you never know with electronics.
Anyone have an opinion on it? I have an iP4 which is perfectly fine. I just REALLY want to get an Android device and would prefer to stay on AT&T (service locally is good, and I am on an unlimited data plan).
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If your iphone is in good shape and unlocked, sell on ebay for loads of cash. Purchase a sgs2 for 700-750. Still will be able to use your unlimited plan.
But I really dont see SGS2 on ATT anytime soon.
I thought there was some big non-carrier specific announcement by Samsung in New York on May 24th or something? Honestly, the Infuse is just an oversized SGS with an overclocked CPU.
If you've seen the video demonstrations of just how powerful the SGSII is, you'll start to realize these two devices are actually worlds apart. I'm using an unbranded SGSII, but if you're holding out for AT&T's version, don't give up yet!
You cold buy a SG2 overseas but it won't work on the same 3g band as AT&T. If you are planning to stay on at&t why don't you.buy the Motorola attic. I own one and its incredibly fast.
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cmd512 said:
I thought there was some big non-carrier specific announcement by Samsung in New York on May 24th or something? Honestly, the Infuse is just an oversized SGS with an overclocked CPU.
If you've seen the video demonstrations of just how powerful the SGSII is, you'll start to realize these two devices are actually worlds apart. I'm using an unbranded SGSII, but if you're holding out for AT&T's version, don't give up yet!
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I'm leaning on taking the dive early. And wicked car in your sig.
josuetenista said:
You cold buy a SG2 overseas but it won't work on the same 3g band as AT&T. If you are planning to stay on at&t why don't you.buy the Motorola attic. I own one and its incredibly fast.
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You'd be wrong, twice. It does indeed work on AT&Ts 3G/"4G" bands [unlocked]. Its also called the Motorola Atrix 4G, not the attic. While quick, MotoBLUR is garbage.
cmd512 said:
I thought there was some big non-carrier specific announcement by Samsung in New York on May 24th or something? Honestly, the Infuse is just an oversized SGS with an overclocked CPU.
If you've seen the video demonstrations of just how powerful the SGSII is, you'll start to realize these two devices are actually worlds apart. I'm using an unbranded SGSII, but if you're holding out for AT&T's version, don't give up yet!
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There's an announcement planned, yes. However, it could easily be for the AT&T branded Nexus S or one of the new tablets.
To those of us who care about hardware the phones (Infuse and SG2) are definitely worlds apart. However to Joe Consumer who doesn't know or care about hardware specs, I don't think it will matter.
The wife keeps giving me the evil-eye when I mention ordering one from the UK. I think I'm wearing her down though
josuetenista said:
You cold buy a SG2 overseas but it won't work on the same 3g band as AT&T. If you are planning to stay on at&t why don't you.buy the Motorola attic. I own one and its incredibly fast.
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I've messed with an Atrix. Seemed OK. Not spectacular though. I have a friend who actually returned his for the HTC Inspire (and loves it). That doesn't speak well to me. Plus EVERYTHING I've seen about the SG2 proves it's definitely the cat's meow (currently).
kakwvu said:
I'm leaning on taking the dive early. And wicked car in your sig.
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Appreciate it, friend.
mattism78 said:
There's an announcement planned, yes. However, it could easily be for the AT&T branded Nexus S or one of the new tablets.
To those of us who care about hardware the phones (Infuse and SG2) are definitely worlds apart. However to Joe Consumer who doesn't know or care about hardware specs, I don't think it will matter.
The wife keeps giving me the evil-eye when I mention ordering one from the UK. I think I'm wearing her down though
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It's not just about the specs, those specs translate into REAL world performance differences. The SGSII has not even had the slightest hiccup with web browsing... regardless of how many windows are open, how many graphics are in each window, etc. My SGS, while great when it came out, easily got bogged down, and multi-window browsing was never a truly usable feature. Given the Infuse is has almost identical specs to an SGS, I predict it will have similar issues.
People keep thinking these specs being listed off are only for geeks, but once in a while, they do relate to real world usability and performance differences. And when they do, they are QUITE significant.
The title of your thread almost gave me a heart attack thinking there was some type of major technical issue uncovered. My SGS2 arrives tomorrow. More appropriate title would be "AT&T-branded phone not looking good in the U.S."
I guarantee you several hundred thousand of the 3MM presales are destined for AT&T. If you poke around the technical sites, the general consensus is a 4G version for VZW followed by AT&T this year. Nobody's even mentioning Sprint or T-Mobile. Depending on the timing, the SGS2 could be AT&T's first LTE phone. I haven't seen any updates on their LTE status but I'm guessing they're pushing to get something up quickly to show the world they'll be as good as VZW in the long run.
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The title of your thread almost gave me a heart attack thinking there was some type of major technical issue uncovered. My SGS2 arrives tomorrow. More appropriate title would be "AT&T-branded phone not looking good in the U.S."
I guarantee you several hundred thousand of the 3MM presales are destined for AT&T. If you poke around the technical sites, the general consensus is a 4G version for VZW followed by AT&T this year. Nobody's even mentioning Sprint or T-Mobile. Depending on the timing, the SGS2 could be AT&T's first LTE phone. I haven't seen any updates on their LTE status but I'm guessing they're pushing to get something up quickly to show the world they'll be as good as VZW in the long run.
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Sorry about the startle. I changed the title of the thread.
I am just frustrated (as are many I'm sure). I'd like to offload my iP4 before the value drops too much (iP5 release). Unfortunately, I'm unable to go without a phone and I am really nervous about a gray market item. Hell even an unbranded Samsung direct phone would work for me. I'm going to have to pay full price anyhow.
Yeah, I think ATT will get the SGS2 with LTE.
Use the fuzzy math I used to convince myself the phone was only $475. $800 - $325 (sold G2) = $475 Can you really put a price on whipping your phone out and gathering a crowd around to see it for a couple of months? My take on buying an import is you spin the wheel and take your chances. If you buy it in the UK, Samsung U.S. will service it. If you buy from Expansys they'll ship it back to the UK for you for service. How long you're without a phone is probably the biggest concern. If you use a credit card with buyers and/or warranty protection you'd have a back-up that will at least get you your money back. Go ahead, you know you want to do it
The event is NOT for the Nexus S for AT&T. Otherwise it would be an event WITH AT&T, not an independent Samsung event.
Hang in there OP. I am in the same boat. I refuse to replace my iPhone 4 with a $750 phone that will be $500 through my carrier. That's $250 in my pocket. Another $250 and I can buy one for my wife
I bet the event is for sgs2 variants. Nexus s doesn't warrant a bug event just like here in Canada it came quietly on all carriers. No big announcements. Many peope don't even know it lol.
The phone is been out a month and is at&t compatible. The event is def. about something more exciting
I'm in the same boat here, too. However after my experience with the Captivate, and the shoddy quality control of its hardware, and the still-present GPS woes and color-banding issues on the SGS II, it seems Samsung rushed yet another product to market and perhaps these extra couple months we'll have to wait will be well worth it in the end.
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The event is NOT for the Nexus S for AT&T. Otherwise it would be an event WITH AT&T, not an independent Samsung event.
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Could be the Tab 8.9 though.
I was wondering what could be that of the SGS II that recently went through the FCC with AT&T only bands?
I hoping the announcement on the 25th will be that Samsung will sell the GS II unlocked in the states and working on AT&T's network just like Google does sell their Nexus phones.
phonex1 said:
Hang in there OP. I am in the same boat. I refuse to replace my iPhone 4 with a $750 phone that will be $500 through my carrier. That's $250 in my pocket. Another $250 and I can buy one for my wife
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Do you really think it will be $500 subsidized??? There goes my dream of getting it through AT&T!!! The company only pays up to $100 for a new phone so $400 more is hefty *sob*
funnycreature said:
Do you really think it will be $500 subsidized??? There goes my dream of getting it through AT&T!!! The company only pays up to $100 for a new phone so $400 more is hefty *sob*
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Go to "USA May 24th announcement" thread to discuss this, I think I mentioned pricing there, or I may be wrong.
I think there is no way the phone will be more than $250 with a 2 year contract on AT&T. My opinion (based on 12 years of buying AT&T phones on 4 lines) it will be around $250, before or after $50 mail-in rebate, depending on when it is getting released. Maybe just straight forward $200 with no rebates if it is released in the fall.