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Just picked up a Snap. (Euro model)
The top row keys (menu keys, home, back, etc..) make a funny sound when I click them. They feel very "wrong". It sounds like it makes a click before I actually push it all the way in. So there is a sorta plastic-y double-click sound.
I rushed back to the store and the guy opened another box to compare and that was making the same noise too. He suggested it's new and will break in with time. (The display model was good but it has been "broken in" by a lot of customers.)
(QWERTY part of keyboard is fine.)
I'm inclined to think BOTH phones had a problem and it makes me feel uncomfortable.
I had a similar experience with a laptop's touchpad button once and it got worse over time. So this is why I'm pessimistic.
Has anyone else had this problem/issue?
here i'm. same problem on my italian htc snap.
is there something that can we do to fix this problem?
Well it's good to know.... but also sad news because apparently HTC screwed up something.
After using mine for 24 hours the problem was worsening so I just returned it to the store.
I don't know how old is yours (and if it's getting better or worse), maybe you can also return it?
I didn't get another one because frankly I was not awed by the Snap.
Coming from an Excalibur (S620) and based on specs I was expecting to be blown away by the performance of Snap.
But with 3VOLUTION's latest 6.5 ROM on my trusty (and beaten) Excalibur I could not see any improvement. (minus, of course, 3G and GPS)
Maybe I will buy another Snap in the future but going to wait until this hardware issue gets acknowledged/fixed.
PS. It is important to point out, the phone they had on display -abused by a lot of people- was PERFECT. Strange.
@an.ghezzi - please let me know the age of your phone and how this issue develops over time.
i've bought the snap just a week ago and the problem is always here.
not worse, not better. let's wait, maybe someone can tell us what's wrong.
: )
PS. the "funny sound" came only from the "call" and "home" buttons. the others sounds ok...
Just an update.
I picked up a second Snap a couple of weeks ago. Tried the keys in the store and they were not perfect but almost.
Lately I'm getting pissed off with them again. They are just as bad as the first one was. And I know this is a minor problem - probably not even a problem for most people - but I get so frustrated by it. This damn thing feels so cheap. Cheap crap plastic. My Excalibur is 3 years old but still rocking stronger.
I'm not happy.
Same with me. I have a T-Mobile Dash 3G and was wondering why this was happening. It's happening on my left softkey button and home button. I'm gonna take it back to T-Mobile on Tuesday.
Yeah I'm very pissed about this. This new phone (second one, after returning first) is just sitting in my drawer and I'm back on my Excalibur. Squeaky cheap plastic is my pet peeve.
Unfortunately I'm through the 14 days return so I'm stuck with it.
I have one of the first HTC Dash 3G's, got it from Customer service before they were even available for sale online or stores, I have no problems with the buttons what-so-ever, no clicking, just smooth presses. I wonder if there was a shoddy batch that went through to some areas.
Try some rubbing alcohol
On my Ozone, I've noticed a bit of trouble with a few of the keys on the top row feeling spongy. I used a alcohol wipe to kind of loosen up the keys which worked great. I also had noticed the battery cover recently started creaking, so I tore a business card in half and placed it over the battery, which tightened that right up.
same problem here!
Now i know why there are less stocks of snap in asia! i have the same soft key problem, even after one to one exchange! am really disappointed with htc on this, not sure how many others have this problem and if there is anything we can do to fix this? maybe even take it apart??? arghhh...
I ended up selling my second Snap too.
Besides the sticky keys I just did not like it :-/
ookba's custom ROM made it a lot nicer but I just could not get used to the device. Yes the keyboard looks great but the overall design is odd (screen too small compared to the whole unit), it just did not feel balanced.
I have a bad feeling about the fate of the "standard" WinMo (non-touch) edition. The new professional devices are getting nicer. They need to get a new finger friendly OS and a proper capacitive touch screen - once they do that, non-touch will go extinct.
I guess it took me until now to see how Microsoft ignored mobile development for so long. What was killer technology in 2006 is just a mess by now.
I still love my Excalibur, I dare to say it was the best phone I ever had.
Here is how I imagine the perfect phone: Blackberry makes the hardware. Ookba joins Microsoft and they release WinMo 8, or so. XDA community builds GUI.
I really wonder how many people are facing this issue... sigh.
So far, it seems its happening all over the world. I have tested and changed 3units. The current one is a bit better ... at least the call button does not creaks as much. But I miss the e71 in terms of built quality. I was hoping there is some hack we can perform to fix this.
Hi guys
I bought my HTC Snap from Singapore. Experienced the same "weird" feeling, but only on the Call (Green) and End (Red) buttons.
Seems to be getting a tiny bit better after using it for a week (or maybe i've become accustomed haha)
Agree with you on the screen proportion thingy. I still love my old E61. Keyboard + Screen was spacious and lovely. Fast forward a few years and this is the best HTC could come up with?
Still scouring the forum for applications to customize my home screen (panels). WinMo 6.5. Any tips? Thanks in adv!
Hi, I guess this thread is aimed at those who may have a Magic and those who want a hero. Ive been looking at both these devices. I was wondering what makes the hero so much better than the magic? As far as i can tell its mainly the camera and the phone is smaller. Are there many other differences?
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Hi, I guess this thread is aimed at those who may have a Magic and those who want a hero. Ive been looking at both these devices. I was wondering what makes the hero so much better than the magic? As far as i can tell its mainly the camera and the phone is smaller. Are there many other differences?
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Depending on where you buy the Magic, it may have less RAM than the hero as there are two different RAM configurations available on the Magic (I'm unsure why.)
For me personally, what makes the Hero "better" is that the Magic feels a bit more like a toy than it should - I guess it's just that plasticky look and feel, but its shape and finish is just nowhere near as sleek and slick as the Hero. I like that the Hero's edges are more sqaured off than the Magic's rounded edges - I think that, for me atleast, plays a big part in the cheap-like feeling I get from the Magic.
The only concern I had about the Hero when I first saw it was the chin, however you'll find that the chin is not even noticeable in your pocket and in fact it just helps to protect the trackball from constant wear & tear by rubbing in your pocket throughout the day.
I know a lot of that is my personal opinion, but I hope it can help you out.
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Depending on where you buy the Magic, it may have less RAM than the hero as there are two different RAM configurations available on the Magic (I'm unsure why.)
For me personally, what makes the Hero "better" is that the Magic feels a bit more like a toy than it should - I guess it's just that plasticky look and feel, but its shape and finish is just nowhere near as sleek and slick as the Hero. I like that the Hero's edges are more sqaured off than the Magic's rounded edges - I think that, for me atleast, plays a big part in the cheap-like feeling I get from the Magic.
The only concern I had about the Hero when I first saw it was the chin, however you'll find that the chin is not even noticeable in your pocket and in fact it just helps to protect the trackball from constant wear & tear by rubbing in your pocket throughout the day.
I know a lot of that is my personal opinion, but I hope it can help you out.
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Hey, thanks alot for the reply. I agree, from what i've seen of the magic it does look a bit cheap compared to the hero. Im just saving for the hero and noticed that the magic is almost half the price of the hero. Do you think its justifiable that the hero should be worth spending double on? This would be my first android device and that would play a bit part in it as I am planning to write applications for this OS.
Because there are two different RAM specs on the Magic, it makes it less desirable to buy because you're having to make sure you get the higher RAM, but most are the lower so folk arent buying in case. Does that make sense?
As to the plasticky look - I agree to a degree, but - I rather stupidly dropped my Google ION (Magic from the dev's conference) from quite a height and it slid right across the road.... Result - a few small chips in that shiny plastic coating (underneath is definately a metal shell, likely aluminium) Not a scratch or mark on the screen or back of the handset and working perfectly. Its obviously an extremely robust build quality, and I can say the front casing is definately metal coated with shiny plastic. If I'd dropped my G1 it would have been majorly knackered, as the slider would have opened and that hinge is ridiculously precarious.
I'm also thinking bout getting a hero, as I've been well impressed with the adaptability of android phones and the glitches I've seen have been solved within weeks on here by some clever techy. Software library is WELL underway and I have copilot on my magic Ion running without a single glitch, though I have heard its buggy if you try to get the app without buying as CoPilot are adding in security measures.....
Regarding probs some people seem to be complaining about with albums and media from SD. In my experience as an owner of G1 then Magic, on FIRST USING any gallery/album type app, allow it to load all... it takes a while, because its creating a thumbs database on the device. Once done, access is really quick after that.
Daisy xxx
The Magic does have an overly plastic feel to it. A colleague got one today and I am not too convinced by it.
A big plus for the Hero is the 3.5mm headphone jack. FINALLY HTC caught onto the idea that their consumers want this!
The Hero also has the light sensors to automatically adjust screen brightness (if this works - my Omnia never seems to do it right.)
Multitouch is enabled on the Hero too, so you can pinch to zoom internet browser pages. I dont think the Magic has that!
Ohh yeah and the Flash enabled browser is quit a biggy too (lets just hope the reviews that show it crashing are all early releases and its fixed now!!)
I am only 4 months into a new 18 month contract with Orange but having looked into it a lot over the last few weeks. I want a Hero so much I am likely to pay the £400 SIM free price tag to get one!
Zippyioa
I've got a magic (vodafone UK, lesser ram version ) and love it. My girlfriend has a Hero (orange UK)
I prefer the look of the hero, and in my hand it feels nicer, but that's just preference. I'm more annoyed about the RAM difference grrrrr!
My magic(Ion) has Multitouch Browser I'm running a custom ROM. I'm getting my Her0 sometime soon (When stock arrives LOL) so I'll say more then , but won't knock the magic as its a really robust little device, and of course cheaper than a Hero for somone after something on a budget.
Daisy ....
Dayzee said:
My magic(Ion) has Multitouch Browser I'm running a custom ROM.
Daisy ....
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I stand corrected then
Zippyioa
Hi All,
I know this is a HD2 forum, but I was just looking for some opinions on the new Dell Streak now on o2.
I am pleased with o2's phone releases since losing exclusivity on the iphone, and this recent release is quite impressive (and huge!).
Anyway, thoughts please...comparisons etc.
Thanks.
i was looking at that today..
i was considering getting rid of my hd2 for it..but then again..my pockets arent big enough for that phone lol..
so i decided to jsut stick with the hd2 untill they can port android on it or tmobile gets another android device with a 1ghz processor
too big , low quality plastic easily scratches, lower ram ,only landscape
Dell are calling this a tablet to be in the same class as the iPad. So considering the streaks screen is only .7 inches bigger than a hd2's what does that class our device as? A mobile phone, a PDA or a tablet? By Dells reconing it would be a tablet but the streak is really nothing more than a PDA with a phone module. If you look at it this way i'd rather keep my HD2.
I would like to have a play with one to see what its like, but according to the specs, its is huuuge! Would dwarf my HD2.
My feelings are I have had my HD2 for about 8 months now and it is still top end smartphone on the market. Not many other phones I have owned I can say that about. Roll on the next 8 months!
Thanks for the comments so far. I do not think that the Streak's screen size is big enough to warrant calling it a tablet, also, the casing around the device just makes it bigger than it needs to be IMO.
IMHO, I feel that the HD2 is still the best device on the market simply because no two look alike once XDA possesses your soul, and I am still interested in it 8 months on.
Come on competitors, what else can you throw at us? Try harder!
This is exactly the sort of device that I'd replace my HD2 with IMO. Rather than trade down for something with a smaller screen, because lets face it, I don't think any HD2 owners would ever consider doing this after experiencing such ease and clarity with a bigger screen, so the only option is to upgrade in size, and this device certainly ticks the boxes for me.
I love my HD2 and everything that I've been able to do with it since reading & putting into practice all the tweaks that I've learnt of this site, but I'm now feeling like enough is enough as miss the android feeling as it's more 'with the times' than WM. Android itself is growing at an alarming rate and will no doubt be the number 1 mobile OS in a very short time, and the dell streak is the perfect device to complement it.
On a slightly lesser note, it's a shame the device didn't ship with 2.1 or 2.2 but I guess at the time of production, 1.6 was version on offer. I also think the price is good, so selling the HD2 and putting a few quid in seems well worth it.
Too big.
The step from HD2 with 4.3" and thin frame to 5" and thick border is the one that kills convenience and portability for not much. The HD2 is very comfortable yet just fits well in the pocket, but nothing bigger would, and on the other hand 0.7" don't change much in usability.
Android might be the (only?) interesting point.
Just played with 1 in store today for about 10'
It's really huge, not fit in pocket absolutely.
But the screen and colors somehow amazing. With TFT screen, the screen is like a bigger one of HD2.
At 1st, I like the way Dell skin the homescreen, smooth and fast. We can choose how many homescreen, and manage the background apps (somehow).
No double tap, just pinch to zoom when browsing, got flash too.
5mp camera seem not so good.
Looks good apart from it being landscape only. I prefer to hold devices in portrait unless viewing photos/movies, so this alone rules it out for me
Just done some more research and it appears that the Dell does have an accelerometer so should work in both landscape and portrait, can anyone confirm this? Can you type etc in portrait?
didnt know it was landscape only, I am sure this will change with an update though. I have to say I was tempted but I think android has a way to go yet, it hasnt even got a decent video player yet - coreplayer may change that soon though... (dont hold your breath though)
I want one. Hoped I could purchase one from the UK but I would have to move there to do so. Got to wait a month. I hate waiting for anything.
Diane
I'm really tempted by the Streak now. I love huge screen and rarely make phone calls, but I love Winmo too. It's hard to say goodbye with my HD2
I like big screens but the dell has a little too much unused extra dimension for me. I'll wait for the Sony Ericsson 5.5 inch android phone
Actually probably not, HTC will probably have a 5.5 inch out first with minimal bezel like the hd2, and I'd want to get that one.
I have been trying to replace my iphone for about one year. I haven't found anything where the plastic is as nice and I like the way everything looks on the the iphone screen. Tried a few WinMo phones, but everything always looked so TEENY on the screen. A few weeks ago I bought the Nexus One. For a day or two I considered selling it and moving on to the next device, but little by little I am liking it. [I wish the screen was bigger.] I was considering the Dell. I like the Android o/s - **LOVE** Swype. I am getting very good at it now. I had a tough time typing on the Nexus, but with Swype my 'Swypos' are minimal !!
I have Tmobile. Not sure what other phones I could use. Want to stick with Android though.
The only thing that impresses me about the Dell streak is the Gorilla Glass
http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/29/dell-streaks-gorilla-glass-screen-torture-tested-for-your-amus/
xavierdemon said:
The only thing that impresses me about the Dell streak is the Gorilla Glass
http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/29/dell-streaks-gorilla-glass-screen-torture-tested-for-your-amus/
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And to think that I was thinking of getting a screen protector for this bad boy.
I took my friend to go get one yesterday, well what a joke, the guys in O2 aren't allowed to sell it sim free (in my town anyway), they didn't have one on show and we wanted to see it and have a play we both had to put our HD2's behind the counter so they would let us play with it for 5 whole mins (WOW).
So car-phone whorehouse we went 6 of the guys in their didn't even no what it was, even though there was a big poster on the wall, the one guy in there that could help, said yes we sell it sim free £429 i thought thats not bad considering, so he go's in the back to get one, comes out all red faced I'm so sorry guys we haven't even got it in stock yet, were not getting it till next week when the Dell rep comes, (What a joke surely you should no if you have that brand new device in the store yet), so as we walked out laughing we though Phones4U, hahahahaha never had such fun in my life spoke to a girl in there she just look puzzled, then the manager came over, he asked what we wanted explained what it was showed him the leaflet and he said were not getting that phone mate tbh were a sh%t store and just laughed. So he didn't get one went home and ordered one on-line, morale of the story don't go shopping in a poxy town like mine.
After playing with the device got to say it is fun, but
Too Big to use as a phone
landscape only sucks edit(turns out Paul confirmed its not)
you're gonna have to use a headset of some form to take calls
screen is tuff as boots.
I'll stick to the HD2 thanks
The HD 2 was and IS the best Smartphone on the market TODAY, until the HD3 comes
HTC has the most experience in building WM-devices and Android ones and - except obviously raped and misprogrammed Network-Provider-ROMS such as O2, Vodafone, T-mobile - has the most stable performance. I bought mine with HTC-stock-rom, and since ROM 1.48 (and the great mods from the geniouses here at XDA) no freeze occured ever. It is serving me without any flaw all over the world, and this is exactly the same experience that I always had with my Touch HD.
@hoss_n2
You know what you really do post a lot of rubbish on this forum and seem to be seriously misinformed to so I'll answer you points.
too big,
Maybe for you it is but that's just your personal opinion after all for many others it's a great or even perfect size.
low quality plastic easily scratches
Really and you know this how? I played with one today and it's a great quality plastic and feels really good and it's to early to say if it scratches easily or not as no one has owned one long enough. If you mean the screen as well that's also wrong as that's made of Gorilla Glass and their was a video of someone attacking it with a ball point pen and no damage was done check YouTube or Engadget to see it.
Oh and that's not just MO either but that of others that have already got their Streak which includes Paul from MoDoCo. I'm still waiting for mine to arrive.
lower ram
Really as Paul has just been running some tests on it seeing as he has already Rooted it yup in under 1 day it's Rooted and it's showing 408mb of free Ram so where do you get this low Ram idea from then.
only landscape
LMAO just wrong nothing more needs to said here it works in landscape and Portrait modes don't believe me read this post by Paul on MoDoCo where he confirms for some one that the seesmic app goes full screen both in portrait and landscape ?
In fact read the whole thread for his first thoughts on the Streak.
http://android.modaco.com/content/d...-streak-thoughts-dump-got-questions-ask-here/
Having now seen one hands on as opposed to just pictures or videos it is not as big as i thought it was going to be, now if it's to big for you only you can decide but it has to be bigger then an HD2 to fit in a 5" screen.
Marc
I just made this thread to see how us G1/Dream owners feel about our outdated, falling apart phones.
Phones we should consider:
Nexus One
HTC Sidekick Twist
Samsung Galaxy S
HTC Evo 4g
Add more phones to the list and tell me how you feel about your G1 and why there is no worthy successor. (Full five row Qwerty and more)
Motorola Droid/Milestone. Does have qwerty.
But I think I'll wait until christmass with change
HTC needs to make the true next successor the G1
make it the first 4g phone on t-mobile call it the g2 release at the end of the year with gingerbread stock and bam SUCCESS
theres not a single phone out now, or rumored to be coming out that I would give up my G1 for.
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Motorola Droid/Milestone. Does have qwerty.
But I think I'll wait until christmass with change
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Droid keyboard is ****ty, useless and doesn't have 5th numeric row.
I wonder if LG Ally will be available in Europe...
It hurt as the G1 has some good and bad points as
Only 5 row keyboard Android in U.S.
Started Android from rc28 (look at what Android has accomplished!!)
Limited Space
Outdated Processor
Is getting old and many are falling apart
Still goes for $150 - $450!!!!!!!
G1 did well to show Android but now we need a true successor.. Have you all seen the Inbrics M1? 5 row keyboard, but I wish it was stock Android 2.1
Mytouch 3G Slide FTW xD
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make it the first 4g phone on t-mobile call it the g2 release at the end of the year with gingerbread stock and bam SUCCESS
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There's already a g2.. it's tmobile's name for the hero.
jamesd86 said:
theres not a single phone out now, or rumored to be coming out that I would give up my G1 for.
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Not even the Vision...?
goldenarmZ said:
There's already a g2.. it's tmobile's name for the hero.
Not even the Vision...?
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I didn't look more than one google page deep but the last news I found was just a build id that said qwerty keyboard and the name of the phone, not enough for me to say I want. Seriously mu next phone purchase will be in 2011...by then we should have a dualcore mobile that kicks ass...now if only batteries followed moores law.
The Samsung Galaxy S Pro looks decent, it has a 5 row qwerty keyboard but still nothing on the specs (probably identical/similar to the Galaxy S).
HTC needs to re-release the G1/Dream with the Snapdragon processor, more ram/rom, better screen (higher resolution, better touchscreen, AMOLED display), better camera (at least 5MP with flash) and a normal headphone jack. Keep the same case/keyboard/screen size... I'd buy it in a heartbeat.
Had my G1 for a couple of years now and it's a great android starter phone.
But after a while you come to realize it's not that great after all.
Just like that guy in Utah, that died by firing squad last night, I've decided to place my phone against a wall (blindfolded of course), and let off a .50 cal round from my M107, straight into the menu button. I offered it one last flash, but true to form and solid as a brick (get it? brick? hahahaha) it refused.
So the plan that i've being plotting for a while now is coming into fruition. I've discovered something that has literally thousands more apps, great ui/responsiveness and is cosmetically better looking.
Six days from the date of this post I will have my new phone.
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Had my G1 for a couple of years now and it's a great android starter phone.
But after a while you come to realize it's not that great after all.
Just like that guy in Utah, that died by firing squad last night, I've decided to place my phone against a wall (blindfolded of course), and let off a .50 cal round from my M107, straight into the menu button. I offered it one last flash, but true to form and solid as a brick (get it? brick? hahahaha) it refused.
So the plan that i've being plotting for a while now is coming into fruition. I've discovered something that has literally thousands more apps, great ui/responsiveness and is cosmetically better looking.
Six days from the date of this post I will have my new phone.
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You're a MORON, and I would kindly ask you to STOP POSTING.
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You're a MORON, and I would kindly ask you to STOP POSTING.
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i do concur lbcoder...
wsdisciple, does someone pay you for spamming this link to apple site? Or are you 10 years old?
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As I stated before, I'm not going to replace G1 for now. Simply because there is no other decent phone with 5 row qwerty keyboard and I don't feel like pushing or holding shift to select numbers.
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The Samsung Galaxy S Pro looks decent, it has a 5 row qwerty keyboard but still nothing on the specs (probably identical/similar to the Galaxy S).
HTC needs to re-release the G1/Dream with the Snapdragon processor, more ram/rom, better screen (higher resolution, better touchscreen, AMOLED display), better camera (at least 5MP with flash) and a normal headphone jack. Keep the same case/keyboard/screen size... I'd buy it in a heartbeat.
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Almost. Lose the chin and have the button-area be part of the slidey-bit w/ the screen.
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Almost. Lose the chin and have the button-area be part of the slidey-bit w/ the screen.
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I love the chin and real buttons! My girlfriend has a Droid, and everytime I go to hit any of those soft buttons, I'm momentarily aggravated. Especially for long presses, which I use VERY often. Same shell, maybe add an exterior hardware search button, replace the trackball with an optical pad, front facing camera, and maybe a seperate led for charging. That, and everything else that's been said, would be the best phone ever. And it'd be faster than my computer..
wc is still going on with his apple fan-boy craziness?
The only real successor to a G1 would be to completely remake it with nothing but hardware upgrades. And a tad bit stronger. I read many many posts about the keyboard messing up and the G1 just plain out falling apart as OP said. I think it was rushed, and Google should have based the Nexus One off of it. Who knows, maybe one day something will roll out.
I say all this and I'm stuck with a myTouch. :| I've actually considered selling/trading it for a G1. My myTouch is just in horrible condition from so many drunken nights, lol.
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I disagree, I love the chin and the fact the buttons are separate from the screen, it allows you to easily use those buttons/trackball with the keyboard open.
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I disagree, I love the chin and the fact the buttons are separate from the screen, it allows you to easily use those buttons/trackball with the keyboard open.
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The main problem I find with the "chin" isn't so much that it sticks out front, but that when the phone is laying flat on a desk, the "chin" section is lifted up. When you try to push a button, the thing pops up like a rake hitting a coyote in the head when he's trying to catch a roadrunner.
After seeing so many cracked screens I want my new phone to have a folding body with an inward facing screen when closed.
Also:
OLED screen
2 cameras
USB host
Infrared (handy sometimes)
iPhone destroyer beam
Hello guys! currently I am on contract with a HTC Desire, and I will be getting an upgrade soon and have been looking at the Desire Z for the slide out keyboard and more pocket-sized shape in comparison with the massive DHD screen. And I've lost interest in the Sensation due to lack of rootability
So my question is this: Is the slide out keyboard prone to snapping/failing? I ask this because once upon a time i had an LG KS360 which i loved for the same reason: the sliding keyboard w/ QWERTY layout. Only thing is, about 7 months of ownership resulted in a broken keyboard. There was no hope...no response, rotation wouldn't always work when sliding it out so i really don't want to go through that 'pain' again
Pros and Cons
I'm using this DZ (Asia version) for about..well...8 months since Dec. last year and there're some pros and cons of its
Pros :
- The body : stylish...i really like the Z-hinge, it's verrrrryyy cooollllllllllllllllllll (and manly too )
- The keyboard : perfect for email & sms-ing
- Hardware : Insane overclocking , i'm using unity mod rite now and it acts like a miracle
- HTC sense is unbeatable
The DZ can be protected by otterbox commuter protection hard case ..you can google it too..I'm satisfy with this case. Don't worry much about the Z-hinge. I used to drop the DZ twice (about 2-3 times) but it's ok
Cons :
- Heavy (in compare with others smartphone)
- I don't like the tungsten color ! => it's black now with the otterbox case.
- A bit outdated at the moment...
Personal Opinion
Very individual preference... For me it is my 1st smartphone with hardware keyboard, and now I'm waiting for a new one with duo core to come out... Then I'll consider it...
Pros:
Hardware Keyboard
Sexy hinge
Aluminium Unibody
A lot of Rom support from private developers n compilers
HTC Sense
Somewhat rarely ppl will buy, because of it's weight
Physical camera shutter key
Cons:
Heavy
Hinge somewhat a lil unreliable (touchwood mine done have much problem)
Battery, I hope for slightly better (around 1600mAh)
Sent from my Synergy Rom using XDA App
I love this phone. Went from an HTC s720 to a HTC Hero and now to the HTC Desire Z and it, IMO, still can compete with most phones on the market despite its age. Personally, I like the extra weight of the DZ, gives me confidence in the unit that I'm holding and lets me know that it's sturdy. I've dropped it from my nightstand afew times (before I got the otterbox) and came out unscathed.
Pros:
Screen (not too big, not to small)
Form Factor (fits perfectly in the palm of one hand and no need to reach for anything)
Hinge (Never seen a hinge like this, loose from the factory, but there are tutorials on how to rectify)
Hardware keyboard (nuff said)
Trackpad
3.5mm audio out
Dedicated camera button
Aluminium body/design (watch out for the battery cover, the film they apply at the factory is weak, but again, there are some sick tutorials out there to polish and clean it)
Cons:
800Mhz from the factory (not really a problem once you're rooted and etc with a custom rom and kernel, I have mine set at 1.3GHz)
No FFC (non-issue really, just another bell i'd like to have to make the phone complete)
Battery (Stock is weak, barely last me a day. Invest in a Mugen 1800mAh and you won't regret it)
Two tone front (would have preferred they keep the front all black or all silver, not both)
IMO, the Pros of this device kill the cons. Every con for the DZ has a fix or workaround for it. Most fixes cost less than $10 and only some of your time. Again, despite it's age, I would still recommend this if you are looking for a powerful phone with a hardware keyboard.
Matty Matt said:
And I've lost interest in the Sensation due to lack of rootability
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fyi:the sensation got root and s-off in the last couple of days. There's a guide for it here: Guide
thomas_wlc said:
fyi:the sensation got root and s-off in the last couple of days. There's a guide for it here: Guide
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Oh really? hmm...last time i checked it was only temp-root! nevertheless, I still feel more 'drawn' towards the desire Z. Anyways, I'll see what happens. Thanks guys!
I personally wouldn't get invested into he DesireZ at this point in the year. It has been out for a long time (in the smartphone world) and I'd rather spend my money on a more current device with up-to-date specs that you'll get a longer relevant use out of.
Not to say that the DZ is a bad phone, but it definitely is fading in its spec relevance. The hinge is durable, but definitely not as solid as a flat slider type hinge. If you really don't need a keyboard though, you can do better for the $$.
martonikaj said:
I personally wouldn't get invested into he DesireZ at this point in the year. It has been out for a long time (in the smartphone world) and I'd rather spend my money on a more current device with up-to-date specs that you'll get a longer relevant use out of.
Not to say that the DZ is a bad phone, but it definitely is fading in its spec relevance. The hinge is durable, but definitely not as solid as a flat slider type hinge. If you really don't need a keyboard though, you can do better for the $$.
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agree... if you have a really good deal then it might be a different story...
i got mine about 5 months ago... i can say it should be staying with me till the market got a new one with dual core and hardware keyboard...
If your in canada, id wait for the "milestone 3" that bell will be announcing shortly. (Droid3 but little different) or do what I'm doing and wait for rogers to release the samsung galaxy 2 slide, due out sometime this fall, it looks sick as hell google it there's leak photos already. But the dz is awesome I love it, but I would rather a more solid slide mechanism.
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All the negative hype about the z-hinge is completely overblown. I've been on here since December, and I think I've heard of one guy who broke the hinge. That is probably LESS failures than a more traditional slider-type keyboard.
Some people complain the hinge is too loose, but its designed to open and close with minimal effort. If you haven't already, try out the hinge in person, and see if you like how it works. Personally, I've had my DZ for about 8 months now. While I originally wished it stayed in the closed position a little tighter; its still as sturdy feeling as the day I got it. And I really don't think anymore about how "loose" the hinge is.
I only miss a front camera.
I love this device!
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The Z-Hinge is tougher than it's given credit for. I mean, you can go into any Best-Buy or Futureshop where phones are on display, and where all the slider phones are loosened up and beaten to crap, the Z-Hinge on the Desire Z always still works fine. I've had my phone for 4 months now, and the Z-Hinge is still just like it was the day I got it. Slightly loose, but that's by design, it's gotten no looser.
Thanks for posting this thread
This is just another reason to buy the desire z
Im gettin it next week!
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