I still haven't flashed a cooked rom and not sure if I will. Anyone else? - HD2 General

I have upgraded my orginal rom to offical roms such as 1.48 and the latest 1.61. I really want to try a cooked rom (which I did many a time on my Blackstone which I have sold), but other than wanting the Documents tab which I would find very useful for me.... well I just am not sure if flashing cooked roms are a good idea.
I say this because I flashed so many cooked roms on my Blackstone and even after hard resets, I had noticed a decrease in speed in overall performance. I think it was because I flashed it too many times. I wrote in the Blackstone forum if flashing too many times could do more harm than good.
I just read in the Leo Rom forums that when you flash roms of different sizes it can leave residule files behind in the rom which can make the phone unstable or sluggish.
I so want to try a new rom and every time I see an updated cooked rom in the rom thread I aways go to the last posts and still read of some problems some users have which puts me off.
I am not degrading the wonderful lengthy work these rom cookers do but I think I am happy enough with my phone with official roms. I just wish I could add in a documents tab without having to flash the entire rom.
Also why is it that the phone is super fast after a hard reset and as soon as you start installing stuff it becomes less so? Shame really. I am thinking one day to try the phone with no third party apps just to see if the speed stays the same. However, that is defeating the whole purpose of the phone about not installing apps.
Rant over

Well, I have a T-mobile-branded phone, and I have no intention of flashing a cooked ROM at least until after T-mobile releases a T-Mobile-compatible ROM upgrade. Until they do, I have no way of flashing back to a T-Mobile ROM and SPL, which means that flashing would irreversibly void my warranty; and with hardware as flaky as the HD2's clearly is, that's an unacceptable risk.

I'm not going to flash a new rom until I'm looking around for a new phone. Then I might try to dash in some new roms, but untill then I'm rolling stock all the way

Shasarak said:
Well, I have a T-mobile-branded phone, and I have no intention of flashing a cooked ROM at least until after T-mobile releases a T-Mobile-compatible ROM upgrade. Until they do, I have no way of flashing back to a T-Mobile ROM and SPL, which means that flashing would irreversibly void my warranty; and with hardware as flaky as the HD2's clearly is, that's an unacceptable risk.
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do the T-mobile ROMs that are available to download from many locations here not flash back the SPL?
I downloaded my version of the t-mobile ROM so that I could go back if I encounter any hardware problems...

josep54 said:
do the T-mobile ROMs that are available to download from many locations here not flash back the SPL?
I downloaded my version of the t-mobile ROM so that I could go back if I encounter any hardware problems...
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My phone is on vodafone but I got the phone from Phones4u does this mean it's branded to vodafone? Also if this is the case that it will void my warranty I have insurance. I f*ck the phone up then I loose it "unintentionally" . Then get a new one

Jammie_1989 said:
I have insurance. I f*ck the phone up then I loose it "unintentionally" . Then get a new one
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Lol thas is so illegal, if they find out you do it you get in alot of **** xD , still I do think its a good idea
I looooove flashing new custom roms, Im addicted @[email protected] although lately Ive been sticking with dutty's latest, very fast and rather stable

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Lol thas is so illegal, if they find out you do it you get in alot of **** xD , still I do think its a good idea
I looooove flashing new custom roms, Im addicted @[email protected] although lately Ive been sticking with dutty's latest, very fast and rather stable
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lol I know but think is how are they ever going to find out as long as your not posting on forums saying 'I've done this' lol they will be none the wiser. Serves them right for offering insurance to people who are on the sh*test network going lol. Wish I could have got mine on a different network but apparently as it's from phones4u I already have the 1.48 rom and can upgrade straight from HTC woohooo

josep54 said:
do the T-mobile ROMs that are available to download from many locations here not flash back the SPL?
I downloaded my version of the t-mobile ROM so that I could go back if I encounter any hardware problems...
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Flashing an official ROM through the PC won't overwrite the hspl, flashing an official ROM via sd card WILL overwrite the HSPL.
You should read the HSPL thread, it talks about uninstalling hspl half way down the first post.

tboy2000 said:
I say this because I flashed so many cooked roms on my Blackstone and even after hard resets, I had noticed a decrease in speed in overall performance. I think it was because I flashed it too many times. I wrote in the Blackstone forum if flashing too many times could do more harm than good.
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This decrease in speed has to do with you installing apps and the registry gets filled up and through the installing and uninstalling of things, things slow down as the rom gets fragmented just look your computer. This is why overall performance decreases and not primarily because of flashing.
Another reason that the device can all of a sudden perform worse is also due to the different builds out there. They all have difference strengths and weakness. Some are more fast and some of them are more stable. The device itself does not mutate however I'm sure over 1000 flashes, there is a natural wear and tear. Most of us are no where near that.
Wait for your providers to provide stock upgrades so that reverting to stock is possible. I know quite a few members don't have any stock roms to fail back on. That would be the only reason not to flash a cooked rom.
Happy flashing people...!!

Related

I'm raging over this phone!!11

I'm so tired of this phone right now but since my company only offers HTC phones with WinMo this is the only one that's "interesting".
It has actually worked kinda well the last month but after I changed ROM last Friday it has been totally unusable. After the ROM-change I couldn't hear anything when I made a call so I changed radio, problem solved... I thought.. The phone freezed after one hour so I had to take the battery out and when I tried to boot it again it took the phone 6-7 minutes to get past the screen with Rom and Radio information. When it got past it I got the first booting screen with the "Windows is setting up your phone" blahblah so it was like I have made a hard reset.
Ever since I have tried different ROMs and different radios but nothing helps, it keeps giving me these crazy problems. On some ROMs I'm unable to save and access my contacts etc. One thing that is persistent is the time to get pass the screen with ROM and radio information, it's really slow no matter which ROM or radio I'm on. Of course I haven't tried all ROMs and radios but around 4 ROMs and 3 radios.
Is there anything else then ROM and radio that can be updated or replaced because I'm on the edge here and I'm about to throw it in front of a car just to get rid of it.
I appreciate all the help I can get.
Hi, try out OzROM and Radio 2.08_2. This combination is very fast, stable and usefull. I have testet a very lot other Roms but OzROM is the best off all !
Never hang since 1.30, good phonequality and no big Problems.
And remember to make a hardreset after flashing !!!
HQ_seppel said:
Hi, try out OzROM and Radio 2.08_2. This combination is very fast, stable and usefull. I have testet a very lot other Roms but OzROM is the best off all !
Never hang since 1.30, good phonequality and no big Problems.
And remember to make a hardreset after flashing !!!
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Thanks for the reply. I will test what you suggested but I don't have that much hope
I always hard reset after flashing.
Edit: is this the radio you suggest: 2.08.50.08_2 ?
scanie said:
Thanks for the reply. I will test what you suggested but I don't have that much hope
I always hard reset after flashing.
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How many ROM's have you flashed since you got your HD2? were they from the same Cook?
I always Flash a Stock ROM (via USB of course so I don't lose HSPL) before flashing to a new ROM by a different Cook... (so If I was on LIA, before flashing Dutty's I flash the Stock ROM, before flashing Artemis, Flash the stock ROM, before flashing Miri... and so on...)
If I want to get a truly clean device, I do a task 29 via mtty, which is akin to formatting your PC before you install a new OS.
Try mtty, its fast, easy and the results are proven (head over to the stickied mtty thread on HD2 ROM Development)
mtty
scanie said:
Thanks for the reply. I will test what you suggested but I don't have that much hope
I always hard reset after flashing.
Edit: is this the radio you suggest: 2.08.50.08_2 ?
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might be time to mtty mate while you still can becarefull downgrading the 2.0.8 roms some people are having problems read the site about those
DJGurth said:
might be time to mtty mate while you still can becarefull downgrading the 2.0.8 roms some people are having problems read the site about those
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one of the reasons I have never flashed a custom ROM...the stock rom may have bugs but I have found that custom ROMS have so many more!!
I've yet to find a stable one, so now I don't bother with them...pity as they do have some nice features, but I can't live with the drawbacks
If its a company phone and, I assume, you use it for business purposes in the main and it was working ok, why did you upgrade the rom with the risk that you might break something?
How much reading have you done on here? Have you looked at the Hints & Tips thread fpr fixes or the "HD2 died- or did it" thread that deals specifically with the lockup issue?
If you are a secret rom junkie, flashing roms every 5 minutes, are you aware of the issues with doing so and the need for MTTY?
I tend to be very helpful to people in trouble; however I am struggling to understand why you fiddled around with a business phone that appears to be critical to you and was, as I understand it, working perfectly beforehand?
WB
scanie said:
Thanks for the reply. I will test what you suggested but I don't have that much hope
I always hard reset after flashing.
Edit: is this the radio you suggest: 2.08.50.08_2 ?
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Jes thats it, you can download it on the OzRom Site
If you get Duttys HG ROM from my sig radio 2.08 is included so no extra flashing needed
In addition to the other recommendations in this thread (mtty/stock rom, etc.), I would recommend you stick to the 6.5 series (21xxx) rather than 6.5.x (23xxx) for added stability and speed.
wacky.banana said:
If its a company phone and, I assume, you use it for business purposes in the main and it was working ok, why did you upgrade the rom with the risk that you might break something?
How much reading have you done on here? Have you looked at the Hints & Tips thread fpr fixes or the "HD2 died- or did it" thread that deals specifically with the lockup issue?
If you are a secret rom junkie, flashing roms every 5 minutes, are you aware of the issues with doing so and the need for MTTY?
I tend to be very helpful to people in trouble; however I am struggling to understand why you fiddled around with a business phone that appears to be critical to you and was, as I understand it, working perfectly beforehand?
WB
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Yes its a company phone and yes it worked "ok" after trying different custom ROMs. But I think that a phone in this price class should be working perfectly and not just ok. That's why I tend to flash a new ROM once in a while, because I want perfection. And we all know that HTC won't give us that.
Even though the last working ROM was ok, there still were some issues that didn't affect my daily use but that bugged me a bit, that's why I wanted to try a newer ROM.
I don't know that much about MTTY but I will look into it now. Thanks for the heads up.
no device will give you perfection - it's impossible as everyone has different perceptions of perfection
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no device will give you perfection - it's impossible as everyone has different perceptions of perfection
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True, but all programs and features that's implemented in the phone should work as designed. If they don't, the device isn't perfect imo.
Do you know how many issues Apple fix with the iPhone each week? All phones have issues, all PCs have issues, anything to do with tech has issues!!
End of the day you either try and fix it, send it back or wait for HTC to fix it (although some issues may be down to M$ themselves)...
LeoLite 2.3 with radio 2.08.50.08_2 is sweet!
The ROMeOS ROM is great as well - head to romeos.monx.biz for that one...
MTTY
I'd reiterate the advice about the MTTY, my device was utterly corrupted and flashing didn't help. After a MTTY format its back to 100%. Choose your ROM's carefully though, i still had some stability issues with some of the more exotic ROM's (even after a MTTY), I ended up choosing something closer to stock (Dutty) which was rock solid.

Custom ROM Questions

I have had my HD2 for a month now. Been running the stock 1.48 ROM with all the tweaks and fixes from XDA. Everything works great. The newer 1.66 ROM has just been released in my country (I'm in South Africa, things are a bit behind here), and i was thinking of either flashing the stock or a custom ROM.
I've read on these forums from a fair number of people who claim that cooked ROMS are inherently unstable and suffer from random freezes.
Is there any truth to this. I was running Sakajati's Hyperdragon ROMS on my old Kasier, and they were 100% stable.
Or is the instability a result of multiple ROM flashes without using the MTTY process?
Thanks for your help.
I'd say run the stock 1.66 ROM and see how you get on, it might be fine with a few tweaks. After that, look into custom ROMs if you feel you need one
Hi Eddy.
Thanks for the reply.
I'll give the stock 1.66 a go.
was thinking of changing the original rom
which custom rom should i go for need advice
adamo86 said:
which custom rom should i go for need advice
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it really depends on your needs and deires... the only thing you can do is look through the various ROMs and then choose one that suits you or that you like... if its not what you want then change it...
I have been looking at a lot of ROMS, have not tried any yet.
I think i will probably go with Laurentius Ultimate power. I like the fact that his ROM includes a Radio, and he also does a lot of beta testing before releasing a ROM.
I've just flashed stock 1.66, will try that for a while. Then go the cooked route.
Duttys HG series are very good, using it at the moment (WinMo 6.5-style as I hate the new new buttons) - link is in my sig for those interested
from my personal experience i can tell you the best custom roms are faster, more stable and also have extra features that make them more fun compared to stock. but for this to happen you need to be careful with your flashing method.there is an excellent thread in the 1st page of the ROM development forum which i recommend you study thoroughly before attempting your first custom flash. also, remember to always flash a stock ROM in between 2 customs (or use mtty) and always hard reset the phone after the 1st boot. roms are also radio sensitive so you might also have to flash different radios to obtain the best combination. perhaps it sounds a little complicated but it's not really and definetely worth to try.
cheers mate and have fun!
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If u r looking for stable rom, try 6.5 rom, not 6.5.x.
6.5.x roms is more finger friendly but contain more bugs than 6.5
Try Miri's rom or Xanny's rom. I used both and satisfied with both
Hi Antaed.
Thanks for reply. I've read all the HSPL and flashing posts. Not too worried about the process.
I agree with what you say, on my tytnII, custom ROM was much faster.
Good to hear you're not have stability problems with the custom ROMS for HD2
Savage-wp said:
Hi Antaed.
Thanks for reply. I've read all the HSPL and flashing posts. Not too worried about the process.
I agree with what you say, on my tytnII, custom ROM was much faster.
Good to hear you're not have stability problems with the custom ROMS for HD2
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glad to help mate. i'm not a flash addict (just yet ) so i tried only roms from the notorious chefs - dutty, laurentius, xannytech, energy, etc. i wasn't disappointed by any of them, all are very good but each is different in its own way. my favorite is artemis (from sternas) because i find it closest to my needs - leo only packages, close to stock, essential addons and of course great, great performance. i recommend you try a few yourself so you can decide which is best for you.

where should I do!

I see slot of people flashing their phones but I dont see why.what are the perks of flashing and would it void my warranty with t mobile
The purpose of flashing is so you can get new roms that are created by developers which mostly run better than the stock roms. Yes you do void your warranty if you have a HSPL (Hard SPL) but you can return it to stock SPL if you need to use the warranty. It will act like it has never been there.
Its up to you what you want to do.
hnmmm i see. is there something that other roms offer that others don't?
Yes, the operate without all the fail that that stock rom is. Quicker, Smoother, and just more awesome. Try kumars rom out. its good stuff!!!
hmmm ok i meant app and widget/feature wise
sherlockpwnz said:
hmmm ok i meant app and widget/feature wise
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Yes, tons. Just imagine everything you've added onto your phone with cabs would already be placed on the phone from the start. Having them already "cooked" in keeps the phone from lagging and makes it mush smoother. I had a lot of lag and freezing problems with the stock t mobile rom but since switching to Energy roms I haven't had any issues. For a list of apps and programs already cooked in just check out the official rom thread of the rom your eying.
i don't thinkid be able to cuz I couldn't really understand any of the tutorials on how too doo it sad day for me
does anyone wanna help me out here or is it just too much to explain. I'm just worried about bricking my phone
What's to explain.
Go and get the HSPL for your phone-put phone into active sync with computer-run HSPL.
Download a rom for the phone-load the file LEOIMG onto the main directory of the memory card-put phone into bootloader-ROM loads-done.
That's it.
but what if i need to hard reset or something and who can give me a list of roms that are compatible i don't understand how to find them
There is a thread stickied on the top if this section listing T-Mobile compatible roms. If it says T-Mobile,T-Mous, T-Mo etc, or 1024 leo it is compatible. The thing is T-Mobile hd2's hsve 1024 mb of flash memory while the Euro hd2 has 512 mb. If you flash a 512 rom you will have a brick. There are some really good threads stickied about flashing roms, tweaks and such. Read them a few times to get an idea of terms and procedures.
BTW... YOU and ONLY YOU are responsible if you brick your phone.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=653114
List of compatible roms.
yes i agree man which is why i wanna get all the details about my phone cuz i chose to flash it. i shall look over it. thanks much guys. would anyone be willing totteach me various things or point me to such places where i can learn to make a theme for myself or possibly make one for me?
Uhmm compatible roms..........Maybe in the T-Mobile section I linked to the one that says "T-Mobile USA HD2 ROM Development"? Granted there are other ROMs in the Standard Leo section as well as other site out on the net but you have to sift through to be sure they are compatible.
anyway what if i need to hard reset will it install my stock tmo rom or will it install custom rom again.
It would reinstall the ROM that you have loaded.
ok a few more questions and I'm done. will tmobile still notify me of updates and where can i find the stock roms in case i need to warranty my phone
Have you even opened the ROM development section? If you did you would have seen the first sticky is all the different stock ROM's that are around. As for updates from T-Mobile yes you will still receive messages from T-Mobile if they put out an update. If you want to load an update you can. If you ever have issues and need warranty work yes you can flash back to a stock ROM and stock HSPL.
haven't cuz it takes forever to load cuz i only have internet on my phone. sorry
you do realize that you need an actual computer to flash your phone right? You will have an amazing adventure cracking your phone with no internet access on an actual computer. Its not impossible but good luck..
This thread seems to have :facepalms: and written all over it.
Read up and read more. Then when you think you have an idea what to do, read again!

To flash or not to flash - that is the question

Hi chefs and gourmets,
I'd appreciate a totally frank answer to a simple question.
I have the stock WWE 1.66 ROM. I don't have major problems, just occasional hangs/freezes caused by bad apps, and I have to clean the RAM quite a bit when I have several apps running. But generally, the phone is stable and fast enough.
So, if I flashed a cooked ROM - say the Co0kie Energy ROM, which is very popular - would I notice such a difference in speed and stability that it'd be worth the day it would take me (a newbie) to flash and reinstall all my apps?
For a small, not really noticeable difference, I can't see the point. But for a 'new phone' experience, a huge jump in speed and stability, I guess I might give it a go.
I know it's hard to generalize, but if possible I'd like a rough idea of whether it's worth it.
Thanks,
David
for me (and quite a few others) the speed jump and stability are massively better than the stock roms our phones came with. However if you are happy with the speed and stability of your phone and you arent particularly intrested in experimenting in your phone then i maybe you shouldnt.
i was thinking what u are thinking a few weeks ago . could not dicide if it would make that bigger differance. but it does.
the 1st rom i tryed was steve's elegancia rom and i found it alot better than stock. more colour , faster, more stable. lots more options.
if i were you, now knowing what i know now i would change the stock rom.
plus its very easy to do .
i was in the same boat, except in the end i had no choice.
My phone was crashing daily and i eventually ran out of phone storage. So i bit the bullet and flashed the energy cht rom. I wont flash again as i now dont need to.
It is quicker, i compared it alongside a friends stock phone who literally has no apps on it at all and mine is faster. It looks waaaaaaaay better, it has much more storage and for me comes with way better options pre-installed such as swype etc.
As JJbdoggg said though if you are happy with what you already got then there probably is no NEED to flash.
as for installing everything again, lots of cooked roms use the autoinstall feature. put your most commonly used cabs into a folder called autoinstall on the sd card, and the rom installs them when it first runs.
As others have mentioned, most think as you are when they are contemplating this or anything for the first time, but id challenge you to find someone on XDA who has started flashing and all of a sudden stopped.
It becomes addictive because you are always searching for a better setup, faster etc and as it becomes easier for you to do as you become more accustomed, why wouldnt you.
Most have purchased the HD2 as its a tweakers phone, great in standard form but with so much variety in ROMS these days, your litterally a few clicks away of never looking back.
Once you start you wont be able to stop There are just so many varieties, saves you alot of hassles in terms of installing everything via CAB's as its cooked in and there are always newer updates coming out with so many tweaks for the better.
Hi
I find that if you were to flash a custom rom based around wm 6.5, the main improvements would be the updated base os and cooked apps. This can bring added stability and speed, and of course the htc base updates also bring new divers, but there is no sure and fast way to rate this with so many different apps around.
For me the biggest improvement over stock roms is the ability to use a rom based around 6.5.x which in my opinion is far more user friendly than 6.5. All of my apps work great with 6.5.x and is far more finger friendly. Come on HTC give us a official 6.5.x update!!
dso371 said:
Hi chefs and gourmets,
I'd appreciate a totally frank answer to a simple question.
I have the stock WWE 1.66 ROM. I don't have major problems, just occasional hangs/freezes caused by bad apps, and I have to clean the RAM quite a bit when I have several apps running. But generally, the phone is stable and fast enough.
So, if I flashed a cooked ROM - say the Co0kie Energy ROM, which is very popular - would I notice such a difference in speed and stability that it'd be worth the day it would take me (a newbie) to flash and reinstall all my apps?
For a small, not really noticeable difference, I can't see the point. But for a 'new phone' experience, a huge jump in speed and stability, I guess I might give it a go.
I know it's hard to generalize, but if possible I'd like a rough idea of whether it's worth it.
Thanks,
David
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Do eet...do eet now!
Seriously, flashing a GOOD rom will make your phone like new. That flash comes with updated software packages, optimized Winmo settings, etc.
Best of luck and happy flashing!
flash it! it always helps, as most custom roms are way better than stock roms!
i've flashed my first custom ROM on my TD2 in september 2009 after using stock ROM for about 2 or 3 weeks... i've tested mostly all available ROMs out there.
then i've bought my HD2 and even did not start it once in delivery condition! i've put in the battery, start bootloader, flash hspl and agian started to test available ROMs for HD2
for me windows mobile is not a platform for use out of the box! but it's my favorite platform due to the possibilities of customisation
I think I'll try other ROMs (than stock) when my warranty has expired. When I read about the hardware problems some people are having with their HD2 I think the risk of losing warranty when those hardware problems occur is too big right now.
Having said that... some of the hardware problems may turn out to be software problems and you could avoid these by using a different ROM...
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I think I'll try other ROMs (than stock) when my warranty has expired. When I read about the hardware problems some people are having with their HD2 I think the risk of losing warranty when those hardware problems occur is too big right now.
Having said that... some of the hardware problems may turn out to be software problems and you could avoid these by using a different ROM...
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(assuming you have a regular leo)
dont forget the warranty need only be invalid for ten minutes. You dont have to leave hspl installed once the rom is flashed.
install hspl2 - choose 2.08.hspl
install cooked rom
run hspl2 again - choose 1.66.0000 - thats it, hspl is gone.
thats it, you have a cooked rom, and a valid spl. They wont refuse you for the cooked rom, only if you try sending it back with hspl still installed.
Ok, thanks. But are you sure they will accept a cooked ROM... even if you remove hspl? I guess the hspl is only to give the ROM a specific number then?
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Ok, thanks. But are you sure they will accept a cooked ROM... even if you remove hspl? I guess the hspl is only to give the ROM a specific number then?
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no one has reported having it refused except when hspl is installed.
in theory you can make a stock rom look like a cooked rom just using cabs, (in theory, in practice it would be pretty tough) whereas hspl specifically violates the terms of use.
not sure what your last sentence means. hspl simply bypasses region and provider lock checks so the rom will install. once it is installed it doesn't need to be a hacked spl.
Thanks for explaining. I didn't know what exactly hspl does apart from allowing to flash different ROMs (although I used it for someone else's device to flash to a different language just following the instructions on the "how to flash"-topic ).
so what is a good rom
Hi
So what is a good rom
how does one instal it
how do I prepare such an installation
where to find the download of a good rom
thanks
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it's definitly worth it, even if it takes you some time to restore everything to the way it was befor! In case you become addicted to flashing you'll find a way to easily restore everything each time your flash.
I would never go back to any Stock ROM, only to send my phone back to be repaired!
Just follow the flash guides, it's really easy and takes like 10 minutes (maybe longer the first time because you try to avoid mistakes):
remove SIM and SD cards (!), do a task29, flash radio (optional!), flash ROM, hard-reset, let the phone set up, a second hard-reset, plug-in SIM and SD cards again, restore, done.
Sooner or later we shall all flash the WP7 ROM on our HD2's,so why not start now.
hagba said:
Sooner or later we shall all flash the WP7 ROM on our HD2's,so why not start now.
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sooner or later you will all kneel before my magnificence, why not start now?
samsamuel said:
sooner or later you will all kneel before my magnificence, why not start now?
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Sure,since there is life after death why not start living now.

How Do I Change the Radio ROM?

i got static on my hd2 when i make calls. it was suggested that i change the radio rom to hopefully eliminate the static. i've never modded an hd2 phone before. i got a stock 6.5 on it. i hope its possible to change the radio rom without modding the stock 6.5. how do i change the radio rom? what are the steps?
i ask ONLY serious ppl to reply, no trolls or negative ppl.
You change the radio just like you do a ROM you can flash it via USB are flash it via SD card. Download thw Radio you want to flash and put your HD2 into bootloader by holding down the volume doen button while powering on your HD2. Connect it to you computer via USB and wait for the Serial in the white bar of bootloader to change to USB and then flash the radio.
Be adviced though with a stock ROM if it is a 3.14 ROM these ROMs are ver dependant of what radio version you have on the phone. They need a 2.15.50.14 or 2.14.50.02 radio. If you want to use any lower radio version than these you will need to flash a custom ROM, but they may still give you issues as most of the very resent custom ROMs are based of 3.14 stock ROMs
Do not forget my wartning from my other post about what radio versions not to flash.
*laughs till chokes*
Seriously, tho, you will get way better help with this attitude than your other earlier thread
Good luck.
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*laughs till chokes*
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Shame on you Sam
samsamuel said:
*laughs till chokes*
Seriously, tho, you will get way better help with this attitude than your other earlier thread
Good luck.
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listen, stop f***ing harassing me already!!! no one has an attitude, the only one with it is you! you harassed me on the other thread and youre on the verge of getting banned on this one!! get off my thread!!
T-Macgnolia said:
You change the radio just like you do a ROM you can flash it via USB are flash it via SD card. Download thw Radio you want to flash and put your HD2 into bootloader by holding down the volume doen button while powering on your HD2. Connect it to you computer via USB and wait for the Serial in the white bar of bootloader to change to USB and then flash the radio.
Be adviced though with a stock ROM if it is a 3.14 ROM these ROMs are ver dependant of what radio version you have on the phone. They need a 2.15.50.14 or 2.14.50.02 radio. If you want to use any lower radio version than these you will need to flash a custom ROM, but they may still give you issues as most of the very resent custom ROMs are based of 3.14 stock ROMs
Do not forget my wartning from my other post about what radio versions not to flash.
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hi, T-Macgnolia. good to hear from u again. ok, i read your message on my other thread. below are my current specs. but honestly, this phone shouldnt make any static calls whatsoever. its brand new. it should make CLEAR calls right out the box and i shouldnt have to flash it with any roms as a result.
os version: 5.2.21913 (21913.5.0.94)
manila version: 2.5.20181424.0
rom version: 3.14.531.1 (04666) WWE
rom date : 9/29/10
radio version: 2.15.50.14
protocal version: 15.42.50.11W
it looks like i got the most current version of the radio and stock rom.
but to be honest, all this flashing sounds risky and complicated. i already owned TWO hd2s and they gave the same static. i sent the 1st one to htc for repair TWICE and it came back unrepaired. i bought a 2nd hd2 and it had the SAME static. at this point, i cant beleive that any hd2s are static free. are you guys sure u dont have static everytime someone talks on a call?
also, this loser, samsamuel, is harassing me and i dont know why!! i STRONGY urge u to ban this guy from my thread and any of my future threads. he harassed me in my prior thread and hes creating problems on this one.
Lol, I was calling you on your bad attitude, not harassing you but enough said, I'll not post in your thread again.
Best of luck with your defective Leo.
lol "i'm not paranoid, they really are out to get me!"
i just want to add a few things:
1. you shouldn't HAVE to mess with your device. in an ideal world, it should work out of the box. but such is life...
2. the rest of us don't HAVE to help you...but we do, and for free! mind you, samsamuel's thoughts and posts are valuable and insightful, and i guess any "attitude" you received was probably well placed because your conclusion in your previous thread was based on statistical evidence when we all know that "correlation doesn't imply cause and effect". finally, your "how to change radio ROM" query has already been well answered and well documented on these forums, just search and read!
and now for the thread topic:
1. having the latest version of the radio doesn't mean it is the best version for your combination of network+location.
2. i honestly don't know for sure why you get static on every hd2 you have owned. the odds of getting a lemon so many times in a row are astronomical! mine works just fine. a friend and i brought our hd2s together from the same guy on the same day. his hd2 works fine also. my uncle has two hd2s, both of his work fine. another distant relative has an hd2, and given the pattern, you'd be correct if you guessed that his works fine too. no static on any of these hd2s!
3. are you using a TMOUS sim in the phone? have you tried another sim? have you tried demonstrating the problem to a TMOUS representative in-person?
4. is the device sim free, i.e. can you try another network's sim in your device? worth a shot...might be a long standing network/tower problem in your area.
anyway, cool down dude, don't be all paranoid, no one is harassing you in the true sense of the word...just slightly using the "stick" approach to nudge you into doing more reading and research of your own. it sure beats the whole process of posting->waiting->getting harassed->posting some more->waiting->so on. cheers
samsamuel said:
Lol, I was calling you on your bad attitude, not harassing you but enough said, I'll not post in your thread again.
Best of luck with your defective Leo.
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T-Macgnolia i'll be sending you a private message about this troll.. please read.
ASCIIker said:
lol "i'm not paranoid, they really are out to get me!"
i just want to add a few things:
1. you shouldn't HAVE to mess with your device. in an ideal world, it should work out of the box. but such is life...
2. the rest of us don't HAVE to help you...but we do, and for free! mind you, samsamuel's thoughts and posts are valuable and insightful, and i guess any "attitude" you received was probably well placed because your conclusion in your previous thread was based on statistical evidence when we all know that "correlation doesn't imply cause and effect". finally, your "how to change radio ROM" query has already been well answered and well documented on these forums, just search and read!
and now for the thread topic:
1. having the latest version of the radio doesn't mean it is the best version for your combination of network+location.
2. i honestly don't know for sure why you get static on every hd2 you have owned. the odds of getting a lemon so many times in a row are astronomical! mine works just fine. a friend and i brought our hd2s together from the same guy on the same day. his hd2 works fine also. my uncle has two hd2s, both of his work fine. another distant relative has an hd2, and given the pattern, you'd be correct if you guessed that his works fine too. no static on any of these hd2s!
3. are you using a TMOUS sim in the phone? have you tried another sim? have you tried demonstrating the problem to a TMOUS representative in-person?
4. is the device sim free, i.e. can you try another network's sim in your device? worth a shot...might be a long standing network/tower problem in your area.
anyway, cool down dude, don't be all paranoid, no one is harassing you in the true sense of the word...just slightly using the "stick" approach to nudge you into doing more reading and research of your own. it sure beats the whole process of posting->waiting->getting harassed->posting some more->waiting->so on. cheers
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i dont want your help.. dont comment on my thread anymore.
Member ASCIIker is correct as it could be your SIM card giving you issues as the HD2 has been know to act kind of funky with some SIM cards. I would see about getting a new SIM card and see if that may solve your issue. You have the current up to date ROM and Radio on your HD2 so it is more than likely a issue with something besides the HD2. Try the a new SIM and then post back here with the result.
Cheers
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Member ASCIIker is correct as it could be your SIM card giving you issues as the HD2 has been know to act kind of funky with some SIM cards. I would see about getting a new SIM card and see if that may solve your issue. You have the current up to date ROM and Radio on your HD2 so it is more than likely a issue with something besides the HD2. Try the a new SIM and then post back here with the result.
Cheers
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hi, magnolia.. i tried a different sim, which was a pre-paid sim, and i still get static everytime someone talks on the other end of the call.
koolxx said:
hi, magnolia.. i tried a different sim, which was a pre-paid sim, and i still get static everytime someone talks on the other end of the call.
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Damn that sucks man. Have you tried taking your SD card out maybe you got something funky going on with it as I have heard of some people taking their SD card out and it solving weird problems like this.
I assume since you said it was a prepaid card you do have your HD2 SIM unlocked, Ialso know you-know-what what SIzm unlocking is as you talked about it in the first thread I seen you in.
If trying different radios and another SIM card has not helped I am not really sure what could be the issue, unless there is just a bad cell tower or something in your area that is only malfunctioning on the GSM bands the HD2 uses. I find it hard to believe you were unlucky enough to get two HD2s that had the same issue causing static. Not saying it could not happened but the chances astronomical.
Have you tried different radios? It has been busy for my this week and I forget if you have.
T-Macgnolia said:
You change the radio just like you do a ROM you can flash it via USB are flash it via SD card. Download thw Radio you want to flash and put your HD2 into bootloader by holding down the volume doen button while powering on your HD2. Connect it to you computer via USB and wait for the Serial in the white bar of bootloader to change to USB and then flash the radio.
Be adviced though with a stock ROM if it is a 3.14 ROM these ROMs are ver dependant of what radio version you have on the phone. They need a 2.15.50.14 or 2.14.50.02 radio. If you want to use any lower radio version than these you will need to flash a custom ROM, but they may still give you issues as most of the very resent custom ROMs are based of 3.14 stock ROMs
Do not forget my wartning from my other post about what radio versions not to flash.
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Hi, T-macgnolia. I really need to update my radio ROM. But based on my current stock ROM of 3.14, I’m limited to only 2 specific radio ROMS. I’m using one of them and obviously, I’m still getting distortion on calls. As a result, I want to install a custom ROM to install a lower version radio ROM that’ll hopefully remove distortion from calls. As I said before, I’ve never modded an htc phone before.
Since I got a TMOUS phone, you said not to install the following cuz I may brick it:
Leo_RADIO_15.36.50.07U_2.09.51.03 **(from HTC **1.72)
Leo_RADIO_15.31.50.07U_2.07.51.05 **(from HTC **???? )
Leo_RADIO_15.30.50.07U_2.06.51.07 **(from HTCWT 1.61)
Leo_RADIO_15.28.50.07U_2.05.51.05_2 (from HTC ** 1.48)
Leo_RADIO_15.26.50.07U_2.04.50_22_2(from HTC ** 1.43)
Anyway, what custom ROM do you suggest I install for my TMOUS so that i can install the right radio ROM on it? I want one that looks exactly like WM 6.5. also, can you provide the steps needed to install a custom ROM on my SD card.. thank you.
T-Macgnolia said:
Damn that sucks man. Have you tried taking your SD card out maybe you got something funky going on with it as I have heard of some people taking their SD card out and it solving weird problems like this.
If trying different radios and another SIM card has not helped I am not really sure what could be the issue, unless there is just a bad cell tower or something in your area that is only malfunctioning on the GSM bands the HD2 uses. I find it hard to believe you were unlucky enough to get two HD2s that had the same issue causing static. Not saying it could not happened but the chances astronomical.
Have you tried different radios? It has been busy for my this week and I forget if you have.
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Oh wow, sorry T-Macgnolia. i failed to see your last reply to me before I sent you my last post to you. i havent tried a different radio ROM yet becuz i need your advice on that before i proceed. can you please read my last post to you concerning the steps and installation of radio ROMS? I'd HUGELY appreciate it. as a reminder, i got a locked TMOUS phone.
I'll await your reply.. thanks again man!!.
koolxx said:
Hi, T-macgnolia. I really need to update my radio ROM. But based on my current stock ROM of 3.14, I’m limited to only 2 specific radio ROMS. I’m using one of them and obviously, I’m still getting distortion on calls. As a result, I want to install a custom ROM to install a lower version radio ROM that’ll hopefully remove distortion from calls. As I said before, I’ve never modded an htc phone before.
Since I got a TMOUS phone, you said not to install the following cuz I may brick it:
Leo_RADIO_15.36.50.07U_2.09.51.03 **(from HTC **1.72)
Leo_RADIO_15.31.50.07U_2.07.51.05 **(from HTC **???? )
Leo_RADIO_15.30.50.07U_2.06.51.07 **(from HTCWT 1.61)
Leo_RADIO_15.28.50.07U_2.05.51.05_2 (from HTC ** 1.48)
Leo_RADIO_15.26.50.07U_2.04.50_22_2(from HTC ** 1.43)
Anyway, what custom ROM do you suggest I install for my TMOUS? I want one that looks exactly like WP 6.5. also, can you provide the steps needed to install a custom ROM on my SD card.. thank you.
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Yes do not flash any of those radios to your HD2 as they will brick your HD2, no might to it, they will brick it. look at the numbers I have highlighted and this is what you look for in radios that will brick a TMOUS HD2, any 2.05.50.xx radio will brick it too.
Ok the one ROM that comes to my mind when you say you want a ROM that is close to stock id the Energy ROMs as the ROM chef NRGZ28 has multiple ROM versions in that thread, all of wich IO highly recomend you just have to pick your flavor. Here is a link to the Energy ROM thread if you want to look at screen shots of all the ROMs as you might find one you like more than the ones he has that are close to stock. Here is a link directly to the post #3 which has the close to stock ROMs in it, you will probably want to go with the Eergy version are the Reference version from this post. to download click on the American flag and then select the most current version of the ROM you want.
Here is something you need to know it will help you know wich download to click on when you go to hotfix from clicking on the flag. This comes straight from post #1 of the Energy ROM thread, I added the red and blue writing to help you understand.
Looking at the download folder you will find two core versions of my ROM.
* The 21916 Build which is the most reliable and bug free release. It has the Start menu button at the top left corner! I recommend you start with this first!
This is the number for the closest to stock ROMs when you go to the download link.
* The 29017 Build that's the latest in the 6.5.X series with the Start menu button at the bottom left corner and big softkeys. These builds are not as stable or perfect, but they reflect the latest cutting edge technology from Microsoft. These are also much more finger friendly throughout.
This is number for the ROMs that are a little more modified but still close to stock if you use the ROMs I suggested.
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Click on my guide in my signature to learn how to flash HSPL to your HD2 as you will have to have it to flash a custom ROM. It has a link to where you download HSPL and complete instructions on how to flash it.
Almost forgot go to here to learn how to flash via SD card.
T-Macgnolia said:
Yes do not flash any of those radios to your HD2 as they will brick your HD2, no might to it, they will brick it. look at the numbers I have highlighted and this is what you look for in radios that will brick a TMOUS HD2, any 2.05.50.xx radio will brick it too.
Ok the one ROM that comes to my mind when you say you want a ROM that is close to stock id the Energy ROMs as the ROM chef NRGZ28 has multiple ROM versions in that thread, all of wich IO highly recomend you just have to pick your flavor. Here is a link to the Energy ROM thread if you want to look at screen shots of all the ROMs as you might find one you like more than the ones he has that are close to stock. Here is a link directly to the post #3 which has the close to stock ROMs in it, you will probably want to go with the Eergy version are the Reference version from this post. to download click on the American flag and then select the most current version of the ROM you want.
Here is something you need to know it will help you know wich download to click on when you go to hotfix from clicking on the flag. This comes straight from post #1 of the Energy ROM thread, I added the red and blue writing to help you understand.
Click on my guide in my signature to learn how to flash HSPL to your HD2 as you will have to have it to flash a custom ROM. It has a link to where you download HSPL and complete instructions on how to flash it.
Almost forgot go to here to learn how to flash via SD card.
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hi, T-Macgnolia. thanks for the info. i got a question. i like the 'Reference 21916 build' ROM. but, i dont like the big soft keys (action and menu) at the bottom. i like the way the soft keys look on the stock wm 6.5. can i customize it to make the bottom look exactly like the bottom of the stock wm?
do you know if this ROM is the latest version?
also, hows the battery life on this ROM? i need to make sure that this ROM doesnt drain the battery... this is very important for me.
koolxx said:
hi, T-Macgnolia. thanks for the info. i got a question. i like the 'Reference 21916 build' ROM. but, i dont like the big soft keys (action and menu) at the bottom. i like the way the soft keys look on the stock wm 6.5. can i customize it to make the bottom look exactly like the bottom of the stock wm?
do you know if this ROM is the latest version?
also, hows the battery life on this ROM? i need to make sure that this ROM doesnt drain the battery... this is very important for me.
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WM6.5 Stock uses an older Windows Mobile Build.. Build 6.5.3 I believe was the when it started to be more finger friendly and in turn has the larger buttons.. So if you like how the older build looks then look for roms that have that version of WM6.5
Look in the WM6.5 Themes you might find something you like
As for Battery Life.. It all depends many factors... Some say the latest Radio has a higher battery usage while others say the complete opposite.. You must check which combination of Radio/ROM fits your location the best and if the battery is decent enough to stick with.. That why most people start out thinking they wont flash roms, but once they start having problems or want better performace they change their mind
koolxx said:
hi, T-Macgnolia. thanks for the info. i got a question. i like the 'Reference 21916 build' ROM. but, i dont like the big soft keys (action and menu) at the bottom. i like the way the soft keys look on the stock wm 6.5. can i customize it to make the bottom look exactly like the bottom of the stock wm?
do you know if this ROM is the latest version?
also, hows the battery life on this ROM? i need to make sure that this ROM doesnt drain the battery... this is very important for me.
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21916 will give you start menu in the top left corner without the big ugly softkeys... thats the other build number.
It only shows that in the pic as it seems to be the most popular version.
Battery life with energy roms tends be less than some other roms as they are optimised for speed. Battery life is by no means bad though. You should still be able to make it through a full day without worrying about running out of juice. That said, there are other roms which will give you better battery life if this is a huge issue for you.
Also, not sure if this has been mentioned yet but when trying out different radios its apparently a good idea to test it out for at least 48hrs before you decide if its making a difference or not.....
Yes koolxx as canantroutman posted the 21916 ROM will give you the same soft keys at the bottom and the same start key at the top like the stock ROMs do.The ROM you like the Reference ROM is based of the latest stock ROM so yes it is the latest ROM. So far as battery life goes I can not give any first hand feed back on this as AI have not used that ROM. What I can do though is refer you to member facdemol's "Various ROMs power consumption" thread, link is below. If you go and read his first post you can see from his test resoults that all ROMs use just about the same power as far as power consumption goes, but he does say that all around the Energy ROM does best on power consumption. Go check the thread out it is a very informative thread and project he is working on.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1018833

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