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Figured I would start the thread. I know that at this point everyone still has no idea but I figured I would start a thread where people can post links to rumors as to whether HTC will have a WM6 rom for our favorite PPC.
WM6? How about a WM5 bug fix release?
Much as we'd all like to have WM6 on our Hermes devices, we can't even get an official WM5 bug fix release out of HTC. The last rumour was that we'd see one that would fix "all known bugs" by the end of January, it is now almost March!
I don't know about anyone else, but my patience is wearing very thin. It would be nice if someone in HTC would just say a date and stick to it, rather than the pre-canned responses that some people get.
John
samw52000 said:
Figured I would start the thread. I know that at this point everyone still has no idea but I figured I would start a thread where people can post links to rumors as to whether HTC will have a WM6 rom for our favorite PPC.
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Maybe go read the Upgrading forum and see there is going to be one soon....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=294809
http://www.pocketfactory.com/2007/02/19/htc-wont-offer-windows-mobile-6-upgrade-to-customers/
on10.net, WM6 on 8525
http://on10.net/Blogs/laura/windows-mobile-6-is-here/
this video post suggests that the 8525 will have WM6 running on it.
I actually saw it on an 8525 recently. at a microsoft event.
That's pretty exiting!!!
It seems pretty certain that Windows Mobile 6 will be available on the HTC Hermes/Tytan.
WM6 on Cingular 85225 - Help!
Doh!
I loaded WM6 on my Phone and now, I'm missing my keyboard settings (When I hit the _ key, I get a ?, so I guess I need HTC Hermes specific 'drivers'? Can anyone point me in the right direction on this?
I can't make a GPRS/EDGE connection, but I can make phone calls....no Wifi Drivers eitiher....
I found some cab files in the extended_rom, but still no GPRS....if someone knows the settings or a link to the settings, I would be ever so grateful.
Good news
On several forums there is the same question. When do we get an update.
I have a TyTN and live in Holland. I bought my TyTN straight out of the shop.
So I called the helpdesk and asked them when I could suspect an upgrade. The helpdesk told me that the tech-department in Taiwan was working on AKU3 and they would be finished at the end of March.
So... We have to wait a littlemore............. I hope in Taiwan a day is also 24h :-D
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On several forums there is the same question. When do we get an update.
I have a TyTN and live in Holland. I bought my TyTN straight out of the shop.
So I called the helpdesk and asked them when I could suspect an upgrade. The helpdesk told me that the tech-department in Taiwan was working on AKU3 and they would be finished at the end of March.
So... We have to wait a littlemore............. I hope in Taiwan a day is also 24h :-D
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At least you got a response tembares, they totally ignored my questions! All I can say is, someone else posted here some time ago that they asked the same question, and the answer then was that AKU3 would be available at the end of January. And there were some test versions that came out at around that time, and they didn't fix all of the major issues that I have (in fact, very few). The new versions also created some new issues that I didn't have in the AKU2.3 version, one being a showstopper for me (cannot sync handheld with two computers). So I don't have very much faith or confidence in either the timeline or HTC's ability to fix the identified issues!
But all I can do is be patient, I don't have any other options I guess (except to start looking for another phone...)
John
knights2k3 said:
Doh!
I loaded WM6 on my Phone and now, I'm missing my keyboard settings (When I hit the _ key, I get a ?, so I guess I need HTC Hermes specific 'drivers'? Can anyone point me in the right direction on this?
I can't make a GPRS/EDGE connection, but I can make phone calls....no Wifi Drivers eitiher....
I found some cab files in the extended_rom, but still no GPRS....if someone knows the settings or a link to the settings, I would be ever so grateful.
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There is a cab file in the Cingular extended ROM that you need to get. Copy it prior to loading up WM6, or I think there might be a link in the WM6 thread.
It would appear that the Cingular keyboard is layed out differently from the standart TYTN keyboard, and this cab file makes the necessary registry edits to make the keyboard behave like it's supposed to.
eMail from HTC:
"Thank you for contacting HTC Europe regarding a query about Windows Mobile 6.0.
If you are interested in purchasing an unbranded HTC device with Windows Mobile 5.0, then to upgrade this to Windows Mobile 6.0. We are currently awaiting an official response from our Head Office on the matter of ROM updates from Windows Mobile 5.0 to Windows Mobile 6. We hope to have an answer for you soon.? Please contact us again in a few weeks and we may be able to give you an update. You may also be interested in some of our new devices being released with Windows Mobile 6.0"
An later:
"Dear Sir,
Windows Mobile 6 has not been even released and there is no official date so far.
We are currently awaiting an official response from our Head Office on the matter of ROM updates for Windows Mobile 5.0 and Windows Mobile 6.0"
does anyone know how to get it work? i put the link cingularvideo.cingular.com, and it shows something about need a 3g phone
tbl178 said:
does anyone know how to get it work? i put the link cingularvideo.cingular.com, and it shows something about need a 3g phone
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DO A SEARCH HERE OR AT HOFO!
thanks for nothing, if you dont have info then don't reply. i did but didn't find anything about wm6.
tbl178 said:
thanks for nothing, if you dont have info then don't reply. i did but didn't find anything about wm6.
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You didn't read enough or search enough and with an attitude like that I wouldn't help you anyway. The methods are here if you look around.
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does anyone know how to get it work? i put the link cingularvideo.cingular.com, and it shows something about need a 3g phone
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found info.
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You didn't read enough or search enough and with an attitude like that I wouldn't help you anyway. The methods are here if you look around.
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you are just a smart A**...if you dont want to help...dont say nothing
Here is the write up i found from another member
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=282651&page=24
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you are just a smart A**...if you dont want to help...dont say nothing
No he's not a smart a**. He's actually a quite helpful member of this forum. His suggestion to search is that standard answer by anyone who's been around and/or contributed to this forum for any amount of time.
The point of the Search function is to try and get newbies and the inexperianced to look for the answers themselves and not make other members repeat the same information over and over for every new member that is either too lazy to search and read or just doesn't know that the Search function exists. The information posted here is so far and above what your carrier or software or hardware vendor could provide you for any price and it's available for FREE. So respect the forum and respect the members or go call your service provider for answers. (HA)
You are in no position to tell anyone, especially a Senior member to "shut up" if they don't have an answer.
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@evilhomer - thanks for the support.
@wratran - so the seaching or reading is working for you obviously since you found one of those links I was talking about.
To the topic - I wish we could get the UA bypassed in WM6 PIE since I do not like NetFront. I think pappl is looking into it.
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@evilhomer - thanks for the support.
@wratran - so the seaching or reading is working for you obviously since you found one of those links I was talking about.
To the topic - I wish we could get the UA bypassed in WM6 PIE since I do not like NetFront. I think pappl is looking into it.
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wpbear, have you tried this solution to the UA problem? PAPPL and some Europe users were having the same issues and he made a .zip with some files to replace the default files that are keeping PIE from sending out the changed UA in the registry
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1184509&postcount=13
chenga said:
wpbear, have you tried this solution to the UA problem? PAPPL and some Europe users were having the same issues and he made a .zip with some files to replace the default files that are keeping PIE from sending out the changed UA in the registry
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1184509&postcount=13
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I am happy to report this works and I will be posting two cabs shortly to make this install the two files and make the reg fix. One cab will be just the fix and the other will be a realplayer all in one fix.
EDIT: Here are the CABS
EDIT- Cabs removed- the fix by pappl causes some to have email problems. If you still want his fix since it works for most people then go to his thread.
Glad it works for Cingular Video as well. Nice work making the .cab files!
wratran said:
you are just a smart A**...if you dont want to help...dont say nothing
Here is the write up i found from another member
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=282651&page=24
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Exactly what has changed in this forum when people who are upstanding members of this community, like wpbear are put down and attacked by "big shots" who want to show they are better than the others on here? wpbear's comments were valid and to the point. It's really quite annoying on a **developers** web site to have the same questions asked over and over again. wratran--get over yourself. So, you can search. Yay. How about you post the results of your search without the person attacks next time, huh?
This forum is NOT for kiddies who are just learning how to make a phone call. It is, in my opinion, a forum designed for DEVELOPERS who actually understand what they are doing! There are n00bie forums around that will fit you better. HowardForums.com comes to mind...
I rest my case....
you noticed wpbear finally post a link to help a member...instead of making smart AS* remark. Look at his first response after the question was asked...and see how obnixious he was...
The search function on this forum does not work very well. I did not get that link by using the search command.
Since I have still not upgraded to WM6 (holding out for WMXL 3.0), I can confirm it works on WM5 AKU 3.3 with PIE. Awesome work guys, I really didn't like Netfront and now it's bye-bye gone!
Huge problem with this fix with outlook email not opening. Email list opens and then the message will try to open but it freezes. Have to close poutlook to get out of it and still can't view emails until HR. I veriefied it is was by installing each app I Had one a a time. I havenot tried this again with the manuall fix and checking email. I will try later.
Edit-The webview dll is causing the email and sms problem but without it the favorites links in pie do not work.
Ugh... yeah, I can definitely confirm that problem!
Is it possible to fix without a hard reset? (I haven't looked inside your cab yet.) I just got all my apps reinstalled and set up on the latest LVSW!
some reason i did not have the outlook problems.
i am using wm6 black 1.2 version with netfront 3.3 and shogun realplayer. i followed the instruction from lokemup and it works.
to many things to comment on here... so i will just tell everyone to place nice or i will lock this thread, since there was already a massive thread on this....
Is it just me or do any of you noticed how vague the descriptions for the camera, sd card and sms fix are? I mean there is nothing specific about what exactly is fixed. As an example:
Update for HTC HD2 SD Card Storage Capacity
This update for HTC HD2 further extends support of the SD Storage Capability. Taking pictures with your 5 Megapixel lens and dual LED flash can only truly be appreciated at the maximum quality, and now with this update, you will be able to appreciate how much more you can store in your 8GB or more SD Card.
What does that mean? More efficient compression of photos, or support for bigger cards eg 32GB? I tested before and after shots and do not see a decrease in files sizes of photos taken so your guess is as good as mine.
Then this:
Update for HTC HD2 – SMS Function Update
This update for HTC HD2 messaging lets you reach out to your friends and family with instant notifications. Keeping in touch has always been very important, and this update delivers just that: fast and reliable SMS messaging.
Is it a fix for the stuck sms in outbox? Again it does not state exactly what was fixed. Is it because HTC does not want to admit to bugs? Then why do we need these updates?
I prefer straight-to-the-point logs of what exactly these update does. I would have skipped the sms update if I knew it only fixes the stuck sms as I do not have that problem so why fix something that is not broken.
Maybe I am not brilliant enough to read what's on HTC's mind with these vague updates. Quietly Brilliant indeed.
any complaints/hatred , please direct to HTC .
There are relevent threads in this forum if you need to garner more info
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I prefer straight-to-the-point logs of what exactly these update does.
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I am SO with you on this. Very annoying!
Release notes? In general, a proper description of a bug fix should not require use of drivel like "keeping in touch has always been very important" - nor is it written by the marketing department.
EDIT: You'll be happy to know HTC just posted a new fix for the calendar view (though the download link is currently broken). Another meaningful description!
Update for HTC HD2 Calendar View
This update for HTC HD2 expands the dynamic nature of the Calendar application. Whether your week starts on Monday or Sunday, allowing you to view appointments occurring tomorrow, next week, or even next month.
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I have some theories on what it might fix, but you'll get no clues from the description...
Ahhh... The great "everything is good, even if some things are terrible" methodology of HTC.
I'm starting to think that they take one week to write the actual bug fix, and two weeks to write the description that goes along with it.
Link for calendar view doesnt work for me...when I press download new site opens saying that the page doesnt exist...
Not so sure about how quietly brilliant the "fixes" are.
SMS fix: Removes auto-lock and some email capability
Camera fix: Causes phone to freeze
Perhaps there is something wrong with my phone. I'm using the most up-to-date HTC rom as well.
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Link for calendar view doesnt work for me...when I press download new site opens saying that the page doesnt exist...
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You got the exact same "Page not found..." error earlier this month when HTC first listed the 1.48 ROM on the downloads page for the HD2. The download was listed a day or two before the actual file was available...
Not on the HTC website any more, and neither is the 1.48 ROM?!
http://www.htc.com/www/supportdownloadlist.aspx?p_id=297&act=sd&cat=all
EDIT: Was looking at the worldwide site not the Europe site, sorry!!
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any complaints/hatred , please direct to HTC .
There are relevent threads in this forum if you need to garner more info
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No hatred. Just wanted to see if I am alone in feeling that HTC is being vague with their fixes and I have directed this to HTC so I will feedback to the forum if there are any response from them.
As for getting more info from this forum, I think it would not have been necessary if HTC had made clear what was exactly fixed, because this forum can only provide educated guesses on what HTC did with the updates. Nothing like hearing it from the horses mouth.
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Not on the HTC website any more, and neither is the 1.48 ROM?!
http://www.htc.com/www/supportdownloadlist.aspx?p_id=297&act=sd&cat=all
EDIT: Was looking at the worldwide site not the Europe site, sorry!!
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It is still there if you follow the link in Post #3. I just downloaded it and it says this is applicable for ALL Roms. I wonder why it was removed from the main site. This is exactly what I mean. The Read Me is so vague I am wondering if I should apply the patch and since it was removed, are ther problems with it... hmmm.
after the SD update my i can now store 9862, before it was 5028
Yeah i've made this point in other threads elsewhere in the forum. The hotfix descriptions are infuriating. HTC should be explicit about what the fix is supposed to actually fix. Otherwise, how is the user-base supposed to assess the effectiveness of the patch? Descriptions for these updates should not be written like sales pitches; we've already bought the device! They should be written in a functional, technical way, detailing precisely what has changed. I actually find this issue far more frustrating than the bugs themselves. It's patronising to customers, and unprofessional.
It seems to have fixed the capitalisation issue. What it has not done is addressed the facts that (1) it won't let you start typing until it's loaded all the messages between you and that person which takes ages if you have more than about 20 messages between you, and (2) that it randomly goes over to number mode completely unprompted and the only way to type letters is to go landscape full QWERTY.
They could do with sorting this out.
I have just patch with LEO08007 (HTC SMS update function) UK, HTC support site.
However, the most annoying thing is
-gsm (Random) and bunched up timestamp with long text message.
not only that the date is wrong for the UK. It now shows (month/day/year) instead of the uk (day/month/year) in htc message (all white background with black text)
in the HTC sense message (all black background with white text) - touch in bottom half then stroke up, you will see older message. Find one 2 days or older, it shows the correct date???
I cannot seem to resolve this but this is annoying me ;-p
All else, it is much quicker, loading, typing away, no noticable lag (not sure if this to with facebook linking)
I have been searching for hours using this but cannot find a direct discussion or fix on the points above Any helpers?
By the way i have checked the regions, the time, date etc. And they are correct.
It is only when I have applied the latest sms update function (14/01/2010). That all the date are in wrong order ie. (month/day/year) instead of previously (day/month/year).
Secondly it seem to apply the "-gsm" at the end message randomly!
Thirdly the date stamp and last sentence of long text message are ovelapping/bunched up.
Anyway, it be reassuring if some one can post to confirm whether they have the same problem.
Email fired off to HTC as i think this is potentially another bug.
yes, everybody has the same problem if u bother to read the heavily discussed topics.
u could try changing to a smaller font size for any 'bunching' problems. it did work for mine
Yes for your information I did research as much as i could, all i can see is sms not being sent/hanging about in the main inbox being the main cuplrit resulting from the new sms update.
So I do not appreciate your tone of language. I did bother to read thank you! This is a forum to seek advice from fellow colleagues about their experience and share any solutions not to slate someone for trying the best to find this information.
The bunching makes no different on the smallest text as it still bunched over.
I actually got a response from HTC who are looking into this given that i have sent the picture describing the problems I have encountered.
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New Response From [ Steven (UK - Ireland Support (Tech)) ]
Hi
Thank you for your enquiry
It does seem that the HD2 may have experienced a technicality issue regarding SMS..This is being looked into..BUT with regards to network locked devices we cannot provide information regarding any updates regarding your network..You will have to contact O2 regarding this to see if indeed any updates will become available...OR visit our website to see if we have updates for O2 within the next couple of weeks.
Best regards
Steve
HTC
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Received a response and it looks like there will be something in the next 2 weeks.
I am happy to receive a response acknowledging this!
Coincidentally the UK SMS update function is no longer listed on their website or any HTC website!
So the previously released SMS update patch is definately pant!
I just hope there is solid fix on such an integral function of a mobile phone which need to be reliable, efficient and works.
<quote> OR visit our website to see if we have updates for O2 within the next couple of weeks. </quote>
Not wishing to sound too negative, but having worked in various support roles for various companies, large and small, the above statement certainly wouldnt lead me to believe there is something due that they are keeping quiet about, it is a 'bother us later' answer, meaning 'go away while we look into it, but we don't want to say yes or no, so here is a maybe to keep your hopes up'.
Still., it would be nice.
I am in the UK, the regional settings are (obviously) set to UK and English language, I use O2, but every time I do a search on Opera, I get a list of German language websites, never English ones.
What is going on? Somehow, the browser is telling the outside world that I am in Germany, but I am not.
How do I change this?
rjstep3
This topic was brought up already in another thread, try using the search function next time.
It is due to the fact that O2 uses German IP addresses I believe. The original thread has more detail on the topic.
search didn't show anything - I'll try some other search terms, but thanks for the info in the mean time.
rjstep3
rjstep3 said:
search didn't show anything - I'll try some other search terms, but thanks for the info in the mean time.
rjstep3
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Click 'search this forum' and use german results as the search term
here is the output
Sadly the answer lies in editing a hard coded file, not so easy.
I was having the same problem too. For me, the link posted above doesn't work and searching this forum for 'german results' only returns this thread.
However, I believe I have managed to fix it. My understanding of German is not good but one of the links at the bottom of the google results page turned out to be Preferences. Guess what - one of the options is Language. It seems like Google leaves a cookie or something and since I made the prefs change, all my results have been in English!
Cheers
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It is due to the fact that O2 uses German IP addresses I believe.
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Definitely not mate.
[email protected] said:
I was having the same problem too. For me, the link posted above doesn't work and searching this forum for 'german results' only returns this thread.
However, I believe I have managed to fix it. My understanding of German is not good but one of the links at the bottom of the google results page turned out to be Preferences. Guess what - one of the options is Language. It seems like Google leaves a cookie or something and since I made the prefs change, all my results have been in English!
Cheers
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thanks for this tip - I have checked both mobile and grown-up Google, and they both show my language as English (UK) (which is correct) - I don't seem to be getting any more German pages, although I had never changed the settings.
thanks again.
rjstep3
It becomes more of a problem in the UK within certain websites.
I cannot use my phone to buy lottery tickets because the site thinks im outside the UK. It is very annoying and a solution would be gladly received