HD2 available on Virgin Mobile UK - HD2 General

Just in case you hadn't noticed (well I hadn't anyway!) the HD2 is now available on Virgin Mobile in the UK
http://bit.ly/6tBFFr
The deals seem to blow some of the established ones away

Hardly blown away, to get the free phone you need to sign up for a 2 year tariff and the £35, 18 month tariff isn't much better than what I got from O2. Except I got the phone for less than £2 and they want £20.
Still, some good deals on there, especially if they have good stock levels.

Fair comment. I haven't seen that deal on O2.
It's just that I was about to commit to either a £35 18 month contract or £45 12 month (handsets £free - £90). So £25/m (+£80) seems ok.
But as you say, let's see what the stock levels are like.

this IS the best priced company out there, i ordered mine last night.
18 months, virgin £25, 500 mins, unlimited text and internet to 1gb fair usage, phone cost £80 + £5 postage. with this i got 2 months free so £50 because i am a virgin media customer.
you can get £30 cashback through quidco.com or another cashback site.
even the customer service at tmobile couldn't believe it (when i was getting my PAC) and had to go online to check lol.
25*18 = 450 - 50 = 400 + 85 = 485 for 18 months.
that about the same cost if you took this on vodafone through a third party company (dial-a-phone) but here you can port your number (which i think is an important thing).

iandooley said:
Just in case you hadn't noticed (well I hadn't anyway!) the HD2 is now available on Virgin Mobile in the UK
http://bit.ly/6tBFFr
The deals seem to blow some of the established ones away
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Thanks for posting this. It is a good deal.
Sunil_237 said:
this IS the best priced company out there, i ordered mine last night.
18 months, virgin £25, 500 mins, unlimited text and internet to 1gb fair usage, phone cost £80 + £5 postage. with this i got 2 months free so £50 because i am a virgin media customer.
you can get £30 cashback through quidco.com or another cashback site.
even the customer service at tmobile couldn't believe it (when i was getting my PAC) and had to go online to check lol.
25*18 = 450 - 50 = 400 + 85 = 485 for 18 months.
that about the same cost if you took this on vodafone through a third party company (dial-a-phone) but here you can port your number (which i think is an important thing).
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You are right. It's the best deal I've seen so far and I haven't seen anything close from anyone else with those minutes and Internet included. Add the 2 months free and cashback and it's an outstanding deal.
Do you have your phone yet? If so can you use Skype on it to chat and talk?
Any issues with it?
Also, did it come with the case and an SD card?
Thanks.

FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCCCCCCCCKKKKKKKKKKKKK!!!!
my virgin contract was up this month aswel!

I paid 100ish on a 34/month 12 month contract more than a month ago, including internet. This is way more expensive.

Pagnell said:
Hardly blown away, to get the free phone you need to sign up for a 2 year tariff and the £35, 18 month tariff isn't much better than what I got from O2. Except I got the phone for less than £2 and they want £20.
Still, some good deals on there, especially if they have good stock levels.
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Hardly a reason to say the Virgin offer isn't a good deal - show me where O2 advertise a HD2 for £2 on a £20 per month contract? I'm going to say that you can't because it was a retention offer which they probably only offered you because you spent £30+ the previous 18 months with O2.
To concentrate on getting a 'free' phone also shows your naivety in thinking - no handset is offered for free as they are all subsidised according to how much you are paying over the term of the contract (it's funny how the handset becomes 'free' when the monthly price is £35+ over 18+ months isn't it?).
The Virgin mobile tarrifs are extremely good value in comparison to everyone else especially when you compare the overall costs. Now if someone can find out if they are sim unlocked directly from Virgin this will become a stonking deal.

kai_ said:
Now if someone can find out if they are sim unlocked directly from Virgin this will become a stonking deal.
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I'll let you know later. Mine's due to be delivered today

arfster said:
I paid 100ish on a 34/month 12 month contract more than a month ago, including internet. This is way more expensive.
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I don't think it's way more expensive. In fact I think that it will still be cheaper on Virgin.
How many minutes and texts does your deal come with and what network is it on? Is the Internet "unlimited" on that network and could you please let us know how much you actually paid for the phone? £98, £120, £101?
Thanks.

My deal with T-Mobile was
16GB SD -
£25.00 cashback
Free phone
900 Mins / Unlimited txts and internet
18th Month contract.
£35.00 per month
I moved from 3 to T-Mob to get this phone..

arfster said:
I paid 100ish on a 34/month 12 month contract more than a month ago, including internet. This is way more expensive.
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Virgin Mobile Tariff (best value/cheapest that I can see):
500 minutes, unlimited texts and unlimited internet:
18 months x £25 + £79.99 for handset = £529.99 total cost.
Your tariff:
12 months x £34 + £100-'ish' for handset = £508'ish'
No idea how much 'ish' is and also no idea how many minutes or texts you are getting either for your £508'ish'. Neither can it be said that £22 for 6 extra months usage is 'way more expensive'.
When I was looking for my HD2 I think at the time MobilePhonesDirect were offering the best value for me, can't remember the exact pricing and tariff but overall cost was something in the region of £520 but with only 300 minutes and 200 texts, unlimited data on T-Mobile. That was over a 12 month term I think and also required £102 up front for the handset.
Now considering that the cheapest you're going to get a HD2 outright for is about £450 from Carphonewarehouse (reported by someone, but no idea if it's sim free or not) you can't say that the value of calls/texts/data isn't worth £80? After all, even if you buy the handset outright you've still got to pay for a phone plan of some kind.

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Hardly a reason to say the Virgin offer isn't a good deal - show me where O2 advertise a HD2 for £2 on a £20 per month contract?
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And show me where I said it wasn't a good deal. Take your time.
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To concentrate on getting a 'free' phone also shows your naivety in thinking - no handset is offered for free as they are all subsidised according to how much you are paying over the term of the contract (it's funny how the handset becomes 'free' when the monthly price is £35+ over 18+ months isn't it?).
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You're talking to someone who worked for O2 IT for four years, I'm well aware how this works thanks and that phones are subsidised. And I'd wouldn't say I 'concentrated' on anything, merely talked about something that was relevant.
Still, feel free to continue being patronizing, I'm sure you feel a whole lot better for it.

but ....
in case anybody is interested ...
the phone has no sim lock
no branding on it at all
the serial number works on the htc website
all good for me

kevb said:
in case anybody is interested ...
the phone has no sim lock
no branding on it at all
the serial number works on the htc website
all good for me
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Thanks, now I'm very interested.
If possible could you let me know what your fastest download rate is when you have good coverage. Also if possible could you test out Skype (if you use it).
Thanks again.

DuoM said:
Thanks, now I'm very interested.
If possible could you let me know what your fastest download rate is when you have good coverage. Also if possible could you test out Skype (if you use it).
Thanks again.
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I don't use skype, never felt the urge, i never max my tariff out as is
don't have any any other apps loaded on it yet except for resco explorer and sbp backup.
this is only my 2nd day with it, ordered it online from virgin at about 2:30pm and it was delivered next day by DHL
it was my intention to run the phone "as is" for a while to make sure there are no problems, which means i will not be installing any other software just yet.
if i download any large files files i will try and time it manually if thats any good to you?
any other info you need feel free to ask.
apart from getting used to a (very)sensitive screen compared to my last resistive screen i am still feeling the love for it

kevb said:
I don't use skype, never felt the urge, i never max my tariff out as is
don't have any any other apps loaded on it yet except for resco explorer and sbp backup.
this is only my 2nd day with it, ordered it online from virgin at about 2:30pm and it was delivered next day by DHL
it was my intention to run the phone "as is" for a while to make sure there are no problems, which means i will not be installing any other software just yet.
if i download any large files files i will try and time it manually if thats any good to you?
any other info you need feel free to ask.
apart from getting used to a (very)sensitive screen compared to my last resistive screen i am still feeling the love for it
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Well, you could try and time it manually or you can use the website: http://www.dslreports.com/mspeed
which should allow you to test the download speed.
The only thing is that I'm not to sure about how accurate it is and their servers seem to be in the USA so that's probably not too good.
I was going to ask about the keyboard but it sounds like it's super sensitive, like others I've tried on the HD2. Can you type on it?
Oh, perhaps you could tell me which ROM version you have and if it came with an SD card and a case (not that I normally use one)?
Thanks.
EDIT: Oh, just saw the ROM in your sig. Did it come with that one?

I was really tempted but then realised you cannot downgrade tariffs at anytime. I personally think going via mobilephonesdirect with topchashback and vf maybe the better option.
Scott

kevb said:
in case anybody is interested ...
the phone has no sim lock
no branding on it at all
the serial number works on the htc website
all good for me
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Perfect!
My T-Mob contract is up in a week, and Virgin was by far the best deal I could find.
Virgin £25pm 18mths + £79.99phone = £529.99
The closest I can get is:
TMob £22.50pm 18ths + £169.99 = £574.99
Virgin give more 300 more minutes and unlimited texts (versus 200), both having unlimited web. I can't find a better deal really. I would perfer O2, but I can't get anywhere near Virgin for mins/txts and phone price. Closest is £20pm + £7.50Web 18mths + £250 phone, making it £745 in total! And you only get 75 minutes!
I was worried about being locked into operator provided updates only (my Diamond was bought from Expansys, so fully unlocked), but this is great news! Thanks!
Quick question: Do I need my PAC code when I order, or can I do it after ordering? I was able to do so when I moved to T-Mob...

I was close to considering...
Tried to coerce O2 into getting near to the Virgin offer but the best they could offer was £35/month 18 month contract, 600 mins, 1000 texts, unlimited wi-fi (after I forced the issue) and unlimited internet with £90 for the phone.
Total cost £720 over the life and although Virgin is £190 cheaper I have broadband with O2 so leaving them would increase my monthly payment by £5 and therefore £90 over the life so Virgin only worked out £100 cheaper for me (though I could've got £30 from Quidco).
£100 is a lot of money but I have no experience of Virgin whereas O2 have always been good to me (and normally very generous with my renewals) and I know I get good reception wherever I need it.
Ordered it around 18.45 and supposedly should receive tomorrow according to the email and text they sent me - weather permitting - though I was told Friday by the guy on the phone.

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Best deal in UK for Vario /XDa mini??

Ok - time to take the plunge to put away my trusty P900 and get a Wizard in what ever guise it is in the UK - either with T-mobile/O2 etc. Currently with orange but can move anythime I want,
Anyway - wondering if anyone has found a really good deal on it - and if so - care to tell me /us where - so I can order one. Looking at cheapest option over a 12 month period preferably but may go for a 18month contract is the deals really good.
Scott
Depends what kind of usage you intend on. For example, you can get it on O2 online 100 for £99.99. That's £25 per month with 500 texts and 100 anytime cross network calls.
T-Mobile is similar though with around 100 texts i think.
Anyone know of any other good deals or perhaps have any idea of how much an upgrade on this thing costs? I am currently on the tariff above and am worried that it'll cost me loads to upgrade :-(
Dr Doom said:
Depends what kind of usage you intend on. For example, you can get it on O2 online 100 for £99.99. That's £25 per month with 500 texts and 100 anytime cross network calls.
T-Mobile is similar though with around 100 texts i think.
Anyone know of any other good deals or perhaps have any idea of how much an upgrade on this thing costs? I am currently on the tariff above and am worried that it'll cost me loads to upgrade :-(
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I just took out a new Web and Walk contract on T-Mobile, you get 200 minutes, 5 picture messages and 40mb GPRS to use per month. Its 16 quid a month for 9 months then 29 a month for another 9, over 18months. The Vario is free so to speak, I could not believe how cheap it was, because on their site the only way to get phone for free is to have 1000 mins contract at 80 a month and thats not including any GPRS.
I did this in the T-Mobile shop, they said its an introductory offer for Web and Walk and its very cheap indeed. But you need to go to your local T-Mobile shop, in Chester we have two, one is not very good the other is excellent, so just find a good shop with decent staff.
Have a look here
http://www.mobilefun.co.uk/t-mobile/8264.htm
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Have a look here
http://www.mobilefun.co.uk/t-mobile/8264.htm
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The third one down says £38, web and walk 200, but you get some 1/2 price line rental at £19. I'm paying 16 and it goes up to 32 for 9 months, not 29 as i said before, which is cheaper than that if you go direct to T-Mobile shop.
I'm on the same T-Mobile deal.
200 mins, 40MB of GPRS. "Self service" knocks a few quid off, too. Phone is free, and it's 9 months half price line rental, 6 months full price, then the last 3 months half price too.
You can change tariff after 11 months.
it is an 18 month contract, and there's no 14 day "cooling off" period.
Cheers for that. Am i right ref change of tariff, anyone know if you downgrade the tariff after 11 months - do they claw back any money?
Scott
I'm on Web and Walk 200 mins 40mb
Half price line rental for 12 months normal price for last 6
Self service for extra cheapness.
Free handset.
I can't tell you the exact costs because i was a little hungover when i ordered it (from tmobile telesales which was a better deal than the tmobile store) and i haven't had a bill yet
P.S i had a 7 day cooling off.
Cheap vario
http://www.scancom.co.uk/product.php/1202/330//244cc65073bacb35ea31039e26c4d0ad
This is the cheapest package I found to get a Vario, on Ufix 15. I wasn't interested in the contract, just the phone.
Is the Self service option only available if I order via T-mobile shop - as not seen it yet on a website. Handy to save a few quid
Scott
slewis1972 said:
Is the Self service option only available if I order via T-mobile shop - as not seen it yet on a website. Handy to save a few quid
Scott
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Not sure, you could ring them on 0845 412 2401 and ask.
Don't ring 150 from your phone if/when you get it to speak to customer services its 50p a minute, I think even to check the automated minutes remaining bit, I registered on the website and check it from there.
This is the deal on the t-mobile website:-
http://www.t-mobile.co.uk/Dispatcher?menuid=webnwalk200_mda_vario
and thinks thats not bad. Will call them tomorrow because if I can then downgrade tarrif in Month 11, its a pretty good deal but no self service discount I rekon as its full price £35 in months 10 -15.
Scott
slewis1972 said:
This is the deal on the t-mobile website:-
http://www.t-mobile.co.uk/Dispatcher?menuid=webnwalk200_mda_vario
and thinks thats not bad. Will call them tomorrow because if I can then downgrade tarrif in Month 11, its a pretty good deal but no self service discount I rekon as its full price £35 in months 10 -15.
Scott
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Yes thats the one I'm on 16 a month for 9 months etc, self service, you still get a paper bill, but its not itemised, you don't need a paper bill unless you are a complete luddite because its all online, otherwise if you were bothered you'd not be having self serve. Hell they could reduce it even more if they did not send you a bill and the other crap each month like promotions. That would knock at least another £2 a month off !!!!
Half price line rental for 12 months normal price for last 6
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Just a small correction - it's half price for 9 months, then full price for 6, then half price for the last 3...
You can definitely change tariff after 11 months, yes
Best Deal Yet on O2
Hey Scott
O2 are doing the deal of the year totally by mistake. have just put a post up about it. (Check it out).
Although be prompt they will have to put a stop to it soon.
Best Regards - Ash'e
AKA - SION
Posted it in another thread but seems it fits here as well.
http://www.mobileswizard.co.uk/display.asp?hs=xdaminis&tariff=none
to compare O2 plans and how much you will end up paying if bought online
and this for T-Mobile
http://www.mobileswizard.co.uk/display.asp?hs=mdav&tariff=none
I like the info on the right saying "Min Term Cost"
gives you an idea of how much you will end up paying.
There are rumors about O2 tradein offer (if you get phone in 25 quid) it is cheaper making it. £217
Or even if you dont get trade in and have an offline tariff for £16 you will be paying £291. (£99 for phone)
Think anyone can beat that??????
let me know I am after the phone.

UK Tariff/Network advice please!

I'm one of the many waiting for the Leo. It's popped up on a couple of sites already with networks and tariffs attached to buy now with Nov 11th despatch.
I'm on O2 but there's a lot of speculation about them raking the price of the tarrifs up. I would like to stick with them because they are reliable in terms of reception.
So lets cut to the chase:
T-Mobile are offering it on 18 month with 700 mins talk time, unlimited texts and internet for £35. Oh and the device is free!
Vodaphone are doing a similar package but for 24 months.
What is reception like for these two in comparison to O2? Or should I just be patient to see what they offer?
For signal reception, that's entirely down to your location.
My expectation is that the device will be free on a £45/month contract for 24 months.
Maybe £50 for £35/month over 24 months.
Maybe £97 for £35/month over 18 months.
That is my prediction, not a statement of fact.
This is what I was thinking. A bloody rip-off compared to other networks IMO. T-mobile wasn't very good reception wise but as we all know, they are set to merge with Orange. I presume this means better reception for all?
As an existing O2 customer they should price-match tariffs, surely they won't want to start losing a customers too?
Mobile Phones Direct http://www.mobilephonesdirect.co.uk is offering it for free on T-Mobile for £34.26 a month / 18 months / 700 minutes / unlimited texts & Web 'n' Walk / 3 months free insurance. It's the best deal I've seen on the web. Be patient! Wait until just before Xmas (I have to anyway) when the price war starts and you'll get a good deal...
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Mobile Phones Direct http://www.mobilephonesdirect.co.uk is offering it for free on T-Mobile for £34.26 a month / 18 months / 700 minutes / unlimited texts & Web 'n' Walk / 3 months free insurance. It's the best deal I've seen on the web. Be patient! Wait until just before Xmas (I have to anyway) when the price war starts and you'll get a good deal...
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That's the one I put in my first post Thanks though I'll try patience
Does anybody know whether T-Mobile are going to muck up the HD2 with its own (horrible) widgets or leave it well alone and original? Is the mobile going to be MDA'd or going to stay HTC'd? I KNOW this website is precisely to "sort out" any dislikes, BUT I would personally prefer that T-Mobile offers an HTC instead of an MDA.
Mobile phones direct sell their phones unlocked, so there wont be any T mobile branding at all.
Mobile phones direct have awesome deals, but their customer service is less than ideal. Expect your order to be canceled from them for minor issues that wouldn't take more than a phone call to resolve. Their automated notifications were innacurate (they blame the carrier for anything that might go wrong). I had to be very persistent when I ordered my TD2 a couple of months ago! The guys seemed to be on a race against the clock to hang up, and in not much mood to help.
Once my order went through (after four attempts I think), I had it next morning All in all, you need to be patient, but noone else can beat their price!
Mobile phones direct does look like the best deal out there at the moment, but if you use them remember to cancel the "free" insurance. 15-20 clicks and the sacrifice of a goat will reveal the extra small print of the extra charges that come "free".
But hey, once you have the phone, you never have to deal with them again, which is good.
pangel83 said:
Mobile phones direct have awesome deals, but their customer service is less than ideal. Expect your order to be canceled from them for minor issues that wouldn't take more than a phone call to resolve. Their automated notifications were innacurate (they blame the carrier for anything that might go wrong). I had to be very persistent when I ordered my TD2 a couple of months ago! The guys seemed to be on a race against the clock to hang up, and in not much mood to help.
Once my order went through (after four attempts I think), I had it next morning All in all, you need to be patient, but noone else can beat their price!
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Just a quick question about Mobile Phones Direct. Once I order my phone, I'm assuming my contract is then with Vodafone (who I will be getting my HD2 with hopefully) and I can phone Vodafone to increase and decrease my contract and change texts etc yes?
Just want to make sure, before I go placing an order with them.
http://www.mobiles.co.uk/o2-htc-touch-hd2.html
O2, £25 per month for 24 months with 600 min unlitmed Text and £99.00 for phone, or same for £39 at £35.00 per month.
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http://www.mobiles.co.uk/o2-htc-touch-hd2.html
O2, £25 per month for 24 months with 600 min unlitmed Text and £99.00 for phone, or same for £39 at £35.00 per month.
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What sane person would buy into a 24 month contract?!
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What sane person would buy into a 24 month contract?!
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That's a 24 month pay-per-MB contract on a data-centric phone, too.
To be fair, 24 month contracts as absurd as they are, are probably ok for casual phone users. For enthusiasts (which presmably 90% of the people on a site such as this are), that last 12 months is going to make you feel like you're handcuffed to a piece of junk when next year's devices come around.
I'm even wary of 18 month contracts!
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What sane person would buy into a 24 month contract?!
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Someone who is planning to sell his phone in 3 months, use the money to buy another one SIM-free, and then use the new phone with his contract SIM card, repeating as necessary until the term of the contract is up. Doing it this way means you can upgrade whenever you like, and you don't have to pay the full SIM-free cost of the first phone up-front; you pay it off over 2 years instead.
It can work out quite cheap. You can get a TP2 from Vodafone on a £30-a-month contract with no charge at all for the first three months. A comparable SIM-only contract would probably cost £20 a month, which means you effectively get a TP2 for a total payment of just £150, paid off at £10 a month, with 2 years' interest-free credit.
The only problem is if you think you might want to change carriers within the 24-month period; that's a real pain.
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That's a 24 month pay-per-MB contract on a data-centric phone, too.
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It £6.50 for the unlimted Data bolt on.
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It £6.50 for the unlimted Data bolt on.
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So an extra £156 on top of a 24 month contract, makes it less attractive.

Best deals to get HD2... Post them here

So, I'm looking around frantically to find the best deals and order my HD2. I know there are loads out there and many people looking, so why don't we collate them all together and post here, in a kind of format that is easy to read.
Company: Mobile Phones Direct (http://www.mobilephonesdirect.co.uk)
Network: T-Mobile
Plan (Cost per month): Combi 30 + Web'n'Walk (£35)
Phone Price: Free
Term: 18 Months
Minutes / Texts / Internet: 700 / Unlimited / Unlimited
Total Cost: £630
Ok, so found another, not as good minutes wise, but still not bad for the money...
Company: Mobile Phones Direct (http://www.mobilephonesdirect.co.uk)
Network: T-Mobile
Plan (Cost per month): Combi 30 + Web'n'Walk (£35)
Phone Price: £127.99
Term: 12 Months
Minutes / Texts / Internet: 300 / 200 / Unlimited
Total Cost: £547.99
And another. Anyone else chip in at anytime
Company: Mobile Phones Direct (http://www.mobilephonesdirect.co.uk)
Network: T-Mobile
Plan (Cost per month): Combi 30 (£30)
Phone Price: £151.99
Term: 12 Months
Minutes / Texts / Internet: 300 / 200 / n/a
Total Cost: £511.99
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So, I'm looking around frantically to find the best deals and order my HD2. I know there are loads out there and many people looking, so why don't we collate them all together and post here, in a kind of format that is easy to read.
Company: Mobile Phones Direct (http://www.mobilephonesdirect.co.uk)
Network: T-Mobile
Plan (Cost per month): Combi 30 + Web'n'Walk (£35)
Phone Price: Free
Term: 18 Months
Minutes / Texts / Internet: 700 / Unlimited / Unlimited
Total Cost: £630
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Considering that data is pretty much a must, this is the obvious choice, and the one I went for last week.
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Considering that data is pretty much a must, this is the obvious choice, and the one I went for last week.
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Yup, but its not to some people.
I was just looking at the options of this rather than buying sim free. With sim free, you still buy the phone and pay your existing line rental (or payg) but if you can get it £40 more with minutes / internet, surely it must be worth it that way and you pay monthly rather than in one chunk.
Just thinking of alternatives.
I'm going for the 12month Combi 30 + Web n Walk I think
Makes me said I cant get this phone in the US... Why must the US be so far behind with phones!!
If you order online from Vodafone then the phone is free and for £40 a month you get 1200 minutes, unlimited texts, "unlimited" Internet, and unlimited calls to UK landlines. (I think it's 1200 minutes anyway - it's not entirely clear if the extra 300 you get for ordering online is included in the 900 figure). £45 a month gets you an extra 300 minutes. This is on an 18-month contract: £5 per month less for a 24-month contract.
http://shop.vodafone.co.uk/shop/cat...nitialFilters=flt_paymonthly&_requestid=64351
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With sim free, you still buy the phone and pay your existing line rental (or payg) but if you can get it £40 more with minutes / internet, surely it must be worth it that way and you pay monthly rather than in one chunk.
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Yeah, but when another tasty phone comes out in 6 months, you can sell the SIM free one and buy it. I've been a fan of buying outright for a few years now, and it's really nice not being tied to a service provider. It basically means you get a SIM because of the service, not the phone they offer. As well as that, I can cancel my "contract" with a month's notice, at no cost.
Each to their own, but now that I buy I couldn't go back to a contract unless there was something VERY special out there!
Anyway, I got my HD2 from Expansys.com. It was the usual £500, but comes with £30 of Expansys vouchers. Should be delivered tomorrow
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Yeah, but when another tasty phone comes out in 6 months, you can sell the SIM free one and buy it.
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Yes, but you can you do that on contract too: sell your contract phone, use the money to buy another one SIM-free, and then carry on using your contract SIM. That way you don't have to pay any money up-front for the first hand-set - the cost is spread over 18 months, or two years. If the first one you buy is SIM-free then you have to come up with £500 in cash up-front. If the first one is on contract then, when you buy the second, you've got the resale value of the first handset to offset the cost.
Tempted by the Voda deal at £40 over 18 months.......how unlimited is their data I wonder? And apparently it's in stock there
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Tempted by the Voda deal at £40 over 18 months.......how unlimited is their data I wonder? And apparently it's in stock there
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Vodafone's data limit is 500MB per month.
Shasarak said:
Vodafone's data limit is 500MB per month.
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And from what I've heard, they usually charge when you go over!
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Yes, but you can you do that on contract too: sell your contract phone, use the money to buy another one SIM-free, and then carry on using your contract SIM. That way you don't have to pay any money up-front for the first hand-set - the cost is spread over 18 months, or two years. If the first one you buy is SIM-free then you have to come up with £500 in cash up-front. If the first one is on contract then, when you buy the second, you've got the resale value of the first handset to offset the cost.
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Thats exactly my point.
I can get the phone for £511.99 with a contract for 12 months and get some free minutes. Then I can still sell the phone at any time and buy another, but I still get free minutes.
You're paying whatever a month for your month by month contract and then £500 on top for the phone, which works out more.
If you're sim free is £20 a month and you sell your phone after 6 months, you've still paid £120 in line rental, which is more than I'll be paying for 12 months line rental and a phone.
£511.99 (12 months) vs £620 (6 months)
Got an upgrade from Vodafone web site as the following:
12 months at £25
phone £100
total cost: £400
100mins / Unlimited Internet (500 Mb fup)
Have been using the internet a lot and have not yet been warned or charged by vodafone regarding the FUP.
Have you got a link for this offer please?
For the upgrade, you need to log in to your VF account and then select upgrade option (must be within the last 70 days of your existing contract).
Then they require you to fill in a form and if you are allowed to upgrade, you are forwarded to upgrade section to pick a phone. HD2 is not there by default so you need to view all phones and select HD2. I think before doing so, you need to select the duration from the top. For me the phone showed up for £100 on existing contract. I heard some people get different quotes and would like to hear what others get.
On the confirmation emails, it is specified as 12 months so the deal seems to be right.
However, this morning also received an email from vodafone back orders apologising that due to the demand it is out of stock and they are expecting new stock in 7-10 days. If it is true that they had stock and it sold out, perhaps they have prioritised new contracts as opposes to upgrade deals like I had.
It is a little disappointing but the deal seems to be worth the wait.
Just ordered mine from Vodafone. Apparently, they had 500 phones come in today, and there were 53 left when I placed my order.
Got a pretty good deal I think, especially as I'm a new customer.
900 minutes, unlimited text, unlimited landline, unlimited internet
18 month contract, £35/month.
Phone should be here on Monday. Well chuffed.
Bagpuss.
Hi Bagpuss,
Did you phone to get this deal or order online? Contact number please......
Ordered direct from Vodafone via their sales line. 08080 408 408.
Spoke to a nice lady called Emma Morgan.
Initially was told that the lowest price for a free phone was £40/month on an 18 month contract. Kept insisting that I needed them to match the deal I was currently getting from O2, which was 1200 minutes for £35/month. Eventually, she agree on the £35/month, but couldn't match the minutes. I was happy with that.
I've heard reports of some new Vodafone customers getting the phone for free on a 12 month, £35/month contract, but I'm a bit sceptical as that doesn't even cover the cost of the handset.
Bagpuss.
Thanks will try them on Monday..........

where to get a HD2 and how...

I appreciate that quite a few of you have now got one but some of us are still struggling to get our paws on one Personally I want one through o2 but cant seem to get to the front of the queue for placing an order! I could jump ship but would like to stick with them so the burning question is how did you guys do it? Did those of you on o2 get it through a 3rd party eg: paid towards it with someone like carphone warehouse or bmobiles or did you wander into a store who happened to have one fall through their letterbox as you stepped in? When you've had to put up with o2 telling you contradicting "pork pies" about how they haven't shipped any and dont do it yet it makes you start to wonder
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I appreciate that quite a few of you have now got one but some of us are still struggling to get our paws on one Personally I want one through o2 but cant seem to get to the front of the queue for placing an order! I could jump ship but would like to stick with them so the burning question is how did you guys do it? Did those of you on o2 get it through a 3rd party eg: paid towards it with someone like carphone warehouse or bmobiles or did you wander into a store who happened to have one fall through their letterbox as you stepped in? When you've had to put up with o2 telling you contradicting "pork pies" about how they haven't shipped any and dont do it yet it makes you start to wonder
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Personally, I bought mine outright from Expansys.com, SIM free. I've got a monthly contract with O2 where I get enough minutes and texts with a web bolt-on for less than £20 a month. It suits me, but then I had £500 to spare (ish )
I always like the idea of going SIM free, in case something comes out that I really want but can't afford it. I'll just get an 18 or 24 month contract in that situtation, and probably try and get something like a PS3 with it, so I can sell my current phone and the console, so I'll end up with a new phone and a wad of cash. That should help make me feel better about signing up to a contract
Since I went the SIM free route, I can't really advise on who has them and who doesn't, as far as contracts go.
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I appreciate that quite a few of you have now got one but some of us are still struggling to get our paws on one Personally I want one through o2 but cant seem to get to the front of the queue for placing an order! I could jump ship but would like to stick with them so the burning question is how did you guys do it? Did those of you on o2 get it through a 3rd party eg: paid towards it with someone like carphone warehouse or bmobiles or did you wander into a store who happened to have one fall through their letterbox as you stepped in? When you've had to put up with o2 telling you contradicting "pork pies" about how they haven't shipped any and dont do it yet it makes you start to wonder
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Bad news on the O2 front, they finally had some in store yesterday so I could go over and find out what they will be costing on contract. To get it for free you have to sign up for a £45/month contract and that only gives you 1200mins and 500texts. You dont even get the internet package that you get with the iphone. Go for a lower tarif package and you are looking at £100 for the phone..
I will be waiting til vodafone get new stock (with an updated rom) on 11th December. Free phone for £35/month and you get 900mins UNLIMITED texts (3000 FUP), UNLIMITED landline calls (3000mins FUP), UNLIMITED internet (500MB FUP). Plus the vodafone HD's seem to be unlocked and unbranded so in my opinion thats a winning deal and well worth the wait
Each to their own mskip..you do know that the deal you're looking at gets you an extra 300mins if you do it online? all of course assuming that you can live with them making you wait for an indefinate period of time to despatch it
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Each to their own mskip..you do know that the deal you're looking at gets you an extra 300mins if you do it online? all of course assuming that you can live with them making you wait for an indefinate period of time to despatch it
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Yeah actually the 300 extra minutes is available online or over the phone. Over the phone the order gets processed right away for next day delivery so I think im gona be doing it that way lol. Waited long enough for it I figure my patience will stretch to a few more days
Could have got it from a vodafone store 2 weeks ago but they dont offer the internet package and I guess im a tight git I want the most value for my money haha.
we're singing from the same book there buddy..I'm hoping to get one on something like the palms tarif and preferably as a business customer..unltd 02 calls,10 unltd land lines and ultd www would do me nicely at £35 ish a mnth even over 24mths as you can upgrade at the 12mth point and get whtaevers hot then
You guys are making me jealous :\
Back here in Portugal you pay 15 euros for a 100min plan plus 15€/month for a 500MB data plan...
Just try some different vodafone stores, I went to 20 different and one could tell me 2 weeks ago that they would get one that afternoon so I directly reserved it. If you can't find any on stock the next shipment will come in on 17th of december (north ireland).
Its free with a 35 pounds bussines plan it includes 1000 minutes, Unlimited texts, Unlimited Landlines, Unlimited Internet and Vodafone Passport.
Good luck!
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To get it for free you have to sign up for a £45/month contract and that only gives you 1200mins and 500texts. You dont even get the internet package that you get with the iphone. Go for a lower tarif package and you are looking at £100 for the phone..
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Not strictly true. I performed my upgrade two weeks ago yesterday when O2 first got them in stock. I did what I always do when going for an upgrade, threaten to leave. I was told a £35, 18 month tariff would mean the phone would cost £98. I asked to be put through to retentions where I asked for my PAC code. When they asked why I explained I wasn't happy with the fact O2 wanted to charge me £100 for a phone I can get from Vodafone for nothing (not strictly true but he didn't appear to realise that). After a few more persuasive arguments and another threat to leave, he said he 'managed' to get the phone down to £1.72 for me on an 18 month, £35 tariff with 600 minutes, 1000 texts and unlimited data (or 750mb to be precise).
However, I have heard they have cottoned onto people doing this and are now refusing point blank to offer the phone for less than £98. It's got to be worth a shot though.
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You dont even get the internet package that you get with the iphone.
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You sure about that? I got unlimited data the same as the iPhone on a £35 a month tariff. Oh, and be careful with Vodafone's fair usage data policy, you get charged as soon as you go over 500mb, even in the first month. O2's is much better, you have to go over 750mb on a regular basis before they threaten to charge you.
EDIT: just checked and you're wrong there mate - you get a free bolton that you select yourself on all tariffs including and above the 600 minute £35 a month one. One of the selectable boltons is for unlimited web/data. Check the link out.
http://shop.o2.co.uk/tariffs/18_months
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he 'managed' to get the phone down to £1.72 for me on an 18 month, £35 tariff with 600 minutes, 1000 texts and unlimited data (or 750mb to be precise).
now refusing point blank to offer the phone for less than £98. It's got to be worth a shot though.
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which as a "retention deal for a valued customer" is still pretty poor when for only £5 more at vodafone you'll get 1200minutes,ultd texts,ultd data (fup 500mb?) AND ultd landlines over 18mths,oh and that's with the phone for free...what would an extra £5 at o2 get you?not that much I'll guarantee..it seems o2 think they have their customers over a barrel at the moment due to this phones popularity which will no doubt see them losing quite a few punters in the short term! Why they didn't just put it on the same tariff as the Palm Pre is beyond me and is the deal I would/intend to snap up as soon as I can.
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which as a "retention deal for a valued customer" is still pretty poor when for only £5 more at vodafone you'll get 1200minutes,ultd texts,ultd data (fup 500mb?) AND ultd landlines over 18mths,oh and that's with the phone for free...what would an extra £5 at o2 get you?not that much I'll guarantee..it seems o2 think they have their customers over a barrel at the moment due to this phones popularity which will no doubt see them losing quite a few punters in the short term! Why they didn't just put it on the same tariff as the Palm Pre is beyond me and is the deal I would/intend to snap up as soon as I can.
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Yes, but I'd rather pay a little bit extra to avoid Vodafone as I think they're an awful network.
As for the deal you mention, as I never go over my 600 minutes anyway, the extras you speak of mean little to me even if they do only cost £5 more. 1000 texts is effectively unlimited to the vast majority of people and O2's unlimited web deal is better for reasons I pointed out above and that is something I use a lot.
No, I'll stick to O2 thanks and I suggest you do the same.
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Not strictly true. I performed my upgrade two weeks ago yesterday when O2 first got them in stock. I did what I always do when going for an upgrade, threaten to leave. I was told a £35, 18 month tariff would mean the phone would cost £98. I asked to be put through to retentions where I asked for my PAC code. When they asked why I explained I wasn't happy with the fact O2 wanted to charge me £100 for a phone I can get from Vodafone for nothing (not strictly true but he didn't appear to realise that). After a few more persuasive arguments and another threat to leave, he said he 'managed' to get the phone down to £1.72 for me on an 18 month, £35 tariff with 600 minutes, 1000 texts and unlimited data (or 750mb to be precise).
However, I have heard they have cottoned onto people doing this and are now refusing point blank to offer the phone for less than £98. It's got to be worth a shot though.
You sure about that? I got unlimited data the same as the iPhone on a £35 a month tariff. Oh, and be careful with Vodafone's fair usage data policy, you get charged as soon as you go over 500mb, even in the first month. O2's is much better, you have to go over 750mb on a regular basis before they threaten to charge you.
EDIT: just checked and you're wrong there mate - you get a free bolton that you select yourself on all tariffs including and above the 600 minute £35 a month one. One of the selectable boltons is for unlimited web/data. Check the link out.
http://shop.o2.co.uk/tariffs/18_months
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Its alot easier to get a better deal if you are already with your provider and go for an upgrade. At the moment im with orange and they have absolutely nothing worth getting right now (except the iphone 3gs lol) which means I have to goto a new network
I think everyone you talk to will give you different information. For example in the O2 shop I was told the data bolt on was upto 500MB but in the terms and conditions on the website it says unlimited. In the vodafone store and on the phone I have been told that if you go over your 500MB FUP then you will be contacted and that you will definitely not be charged extra for going over the limit. I know that with the O2 bolt on you arent allowed to used your phone as a modem or for video/audio streaming unless you pay extra which is why they have taken youtube off their roms and is pretty stupid really.
You are right that you can get a free bolt on with O2 but with only 500 texts available instore (I think its doubled to 1000 online) its still not enough for me in business use and I would need that bolt on to upgrade to unlimited texts. That of course means I need to pay extra for the data bolt on
Also with vodafone giving unlimited landline calls it means I can do most of my business calls for free and leave my included minutes for family and friends
I know everyone has their prefered network but for everything they are including and the much cheaper tarif I think my only option is vodafone I just hope the stock comes in on the 11th after putting it back 2 times . When I rang htc yesterday they said the delay was because they are putting extra software on for vodafone so im assuming thats the 360 software.
I fully intend to its just a matter of getting the right deal (although I could say any deal at the moment with o2!) I've never tried voda myself but as I get through over 2000mins/mth on o2 (ultd o2's and got all my buddies using them too)straying isn't a very attractive option to me and as for texts,dont use them at all (think my avg over the last mth was 2!)
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You guys are making me jealous :\
Back here in Portugal you pay 15 euros for a 100min plan plus 15€/month for a 500MB data plan...
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Consider yourself lucky..
Here in Belgium, you have to pay 20€ for a 85 minute plan (no free sms) + 20€/Month for 200Mb data (or 25€ for 500Mb)
If you want unlimited voice, unlimited sms, but no data, it'll cost you 89€
Also note that you have to buy the phone full price (paid 570€ for the HD2), there are no offers combining a phone and a plan.
I don't think there are many countries where the phone and internet plans (don't get me started on those ) are that expensive
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I fully intend to its just a matter of getting the right deal (although I could say any deal at the moment with o2!) I've never tried voda myself but as I get through over 2000mins/mth on o2 (ultd o2's and got all my buddies using them too)straying isn't a very attractive option to me and as for texts,dont use them at all (think my avg over the last mth was 2!)
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2 texts a month you CRAZYYY person haha I think my average with sending out quotes and texting clients and friends is about 2500 a month
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Consider yourself lucky..
Here in Belgium, you have to pay 20€ for a 85 minute plan (no free sms) + 20€/Month for 200Mb data (or 25€ for 500Mb)
If you want unlimited voice, unlimited sms, but no data, it'll cost you 89€
Also note that you have to buy the phone full price (paid 570€ for the HD2), there are no offers combining a phone and a plan.
I don't think there are many countries where the phone and internet plans (don't get me started on those ) are that expensive
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OMGG thats madd I dont think I would have a mobile phone if I had to fork out that every month ontop of paying full whack for it as well
You should move to the uk lol
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Its alot easier to get a better deal if you are already with your provider and go for an upgrade. At the moment im with orange and they have absolutely nothing worth getting right now (except the iphone 3gs lol) which means I have to goto a new network
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Indeed. I don't think the HD2 is available to new customers on O2 yet, it certainly isn't listed as being available on their website. Which is ridiculous considering I have had it for over two weeks.
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I think everyone you talk to will give you different information. For example in the O2 shop I was told the data bolt on was upto 500MB but in the terms and conditions on the website it says unlimited. In the vodafone store and on the phone I have been told that if you go over your 500MB FUP then you will be contacted and that you will definitely not be charged extra for going over the limit. I know that with the O2 bolt on you arent allowed to used your phone as a modem or for video/audio streaming unless you pay extra which is why they have taken youtube off their roms and is pretty stupid really.
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My O2 branded HD2 has/had Youtube on it, although they had removed the Wi-Fi router. However, I have just used a goldcard to upgrade my firmware to 1.48 which has effectively turned it into a sim-free model and put the wi-fi router option back. As for O2 not allowing tethering, I do it anyway the same way I used to on my iPhone. Providing you don't take the p**s and download 1gb+ a month they have no way of determining the difference between you browsing on the phone and browsing on your laptop through it.
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My O2 branded HD2 has/had Youtube on it, although they had removed the Wi-Fi router. However, I have just used a goldcard to upgrade my firmware to 1.48 which has effectively turned it into a sim-free model and put the wi-fi router option back. As for O2 not allowing tethering, I do it anyway the same way I used to on my iPhone. Providing you don't take the p**s and download 1gb+ a month they have no way of determining the difference between you browsing on the phone and browsing on your laptop through it.
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I'm glad you mentioned that actually..my first "chats" with o2 to get this on a business account led me to inquire about the cost of 3gb data allowance..I was quite prepared to stump up £15/mth so I could ditch the dongle from 3 that I use only to be told that 3gb of data would cost me £405/mth,yes,thats right £405.00 a month! so what if all the sharers on the account get to share it,its still £405 and there's only me on the contract! and to cap it all the woman in question wanted me to pay towards the phone as well!!!
Got a few days ago a update from a friend that works at a vodafone store, just after I got mine they were all called from the vodafone warehouse to HTC because they wanted to fix first some (in my eyes minor) bugs like the pink camera problem...
just like we were told o2 did then...

Best deal in UK for HD2?

Hi
I am currently trying to find the best deal in the UK for the HD2. I dont really want to pay more than £30 a month, and hence am happy to a point to pay some money upfront.
So far, I think its mobile phones direct, with t-mobile combi 30 with web and walk over 18 months. I just have to pay £54.99 up front plus I can get £30 cashback off topcashback.
I wondered though if anyone gas found a better deal?
I tried o2, and even with a open discount I have through my work, I have to stump up alot of money. Vodafone deals dont seem so great.
Thoughts?
Scott
Im doing expansys and then simplicity, it's cheaper in the end!
Buying direct from T-Mobile may be a good option. I've found that if you ring them up you can usually get better terms than they advertise on their website. I've just ordered an HD2 from them; £36 a month for 18 months, but the phone is free, and that includes 1000 minutes, 500 texts, and their Web'n'walk Plus internet service (which has a 3GB per month limit rather than the standard 1, and permits tethering). If I'd gone with the standard Web'n'walk package I could have got unlimited texts.
And I'm not very good at haggling - you could probably get a better deal than I did!
I'm on an 18 Month contract with o2 35 a month
600 mins
1000 texts
unlimited 3G internet
95 for the phone
@onisuk, was that through the carphone warehouse though?
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I'm on an 18 Month contract with o2 35 a month
600 mins
1000 texts
unlimited 3G internet
95 for the phone
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I've just had my "unlimited internet" from O2 cut off for hitting 1GB of data in a month.
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I've just had my "unlimited internet" from O2 cut off for hitting 1GB of data in a month.
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kinda makes you wonder how they're allowed to get away with describing something as "unlimited" doesn't it!
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...So far, I think its mobile phones direct, with t-mobile combi 30 with web and walk over 18 months. I just have to pay £54.99 up front plus I can get £30 cashback off topcashback....
Scott
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Thanks for the heads up on the topcashback Scott - Tmobile are really gonna have to take a beating to match this when I come to upgrade from my Diamond (MDA IV)!!!
I'll be offloading the Diamond to Mazuma too - £103 cash or £113 in Argos vouchers. Probably easier than TeaBAy!
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@onisuk, was that through the carphone warehouse though?
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nope direct from O2 !
I'll be offloading the Diamond to Mazuma too - £103 cash or £113 in Argos vouchers. Probably easier than TeaBAy![/QUOTE said:
exactly what i've just done £97 for mmy old N82 ... it payed for my HD2 upgrade ....nice !
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nope direct from O2 !
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But it's not on their site!? I'm very confused how to find out where to buy it, my iPhone is out of contract in a couple of days and so not sure to hold out and see if they can give me a better deal with the phone rather than haggling over simplicity!
they're available to existing customers, just call up o2 and speak to upgrades or retentions. It probs won't be available for new customers for a while so won't be on the website for a while.
Hope that helps!
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But it's not on their site!? I'm very confused how to find out where to buy it, my iPhone is out of contract in a couple of days and so not sure to hold out and see if they can give me a better deal with the phone rather than haggling over simplicity!
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yep like stated above speak to retentions ( say youre going to leave) and they have the power to offer you a deal, the usual sales guys dont !
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yep like stated above speak to retentions ( say youre going to leave) and they have the power to offer you a deal, the usual sales guys dont !
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Tried this several times but each time I get "we cant give you a deal yet as untill its in stock we cant work out the cost to us..." exasperated doesn't quite cover it!

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