Sorry if this seems noobish but if I get one of those cheap little mini usb to micro usb adapters, can I use it to connect my Nexus One to my old G1 wall charger. Is there any difference in voltage or whatever that might damage the new phone?
EDIT: One of these http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemVersion&item=380195084986&view=all&tid=147583237025
You should be able to do that without any issues whatsoever. Same power output, different plug.
Great, thanks
actually this is incorrect.
the g1 uses htc's proprietary ext usb connector format which is not the same as mini usb.
This means that a micro to mini usb adapter will NOT work on the g1 charger.
dwang said:
actually this is incorrect.
the g1 uses htc's proprietary ext usb connector format which is not the same as mini usb.
This means that a micro to mini usb adapter will NOT work on the g1 charger.
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Sorry, I don't get what you mean? I have connected my G1 with loads of different mini usb cables (Nokia ones, printer ones, the one that came for charging my PS3 controllers) and it seems to work fine. I have also used the G1 charger to charge a bluetooth headset. Seems standard to me
I have the G1 and the N1 and got the micro-USB adapters. They work with the car and wall chargers just fine. I even used the adapter on a cable and charged off a PC. It's fine.
3Shirts said:
Sorry, I don't get what you mean? I have connected my G1 with loads of different mini usb cables (Nokia ones, printer ones, the one that came for charging my PS3 controllers) and it seems to work fine. I have also used the G1 charger to charge a bluetooth headset. Seems standard to me
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A g1 will work with a mini usb cable, but the g1 charger cable is extusb fromat which means those mini to micro usb will not work.
all you have to do is look at a mini usb cable and compare it to the g1 usb cable/charger. The connectors are NOT the same.
dwang said:
actually this is incorrect.
the g1 uses htc's proprietary ext usb connector format which is not the same as mini usb.
This means that a micro to mini usb adapter will NOT work on the g1 charger.
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Early model G1's came with an incorrect charger that was standard usb-mini B so it is possible that you can if you have that charger
student.driver said:
I have the G1 and the N1 and got the micro-USB adapters. They work with the car and wall chargers just fine. I even used the adapter on a cable and charged off a PC. It's fine.
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that wasn't the OP's question.
I thought extusb just had extra pins for audio? Since the connector is physically the same wouldn't the adapter just lack the audio pins and thus not be able to pass those through (not a problem if you just want to charge)?
godsfilth said:
Early model G1's came with an incorrect charger that was standard usb-mini B so it is possible that you can if you have that charger
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Ahh, that explains it. I just looked more closely and I see that the G1 socket is a different shape with only one indent (obviously extusb) but the plug on the charger is indented on both sides (standard mini usb). I guess this is how they extusb is backwards compatible.
In other words, my G1 charger is usb mini B so the adapters will work. Amazingotron
EDIT: This does raise the question, why would they use extusb for the chargers anyway? There is no audio to pass through and since standard mini usb is compatible, it must be cheaper to stick one of those in the box than a proprietary-ended charger.
I have two G1s, and one was a preorder. The wallworts were different but the connector plugs are the same: mini-USB. I use my adapter on my G1 charger.
An adapter should work fine, the US cable and the headphones that came with the G1 had the extusb connector, the charger however was normal mini-USB.
using a microusb works fine for me too even for data transfers to pc.
anyone notice though that the n1 charges REALLY SLOW when it's using the G1 charger? i'm in vegas right now and using my g1 charger w/ a microusb. I left my N1 charger at home. But from about 50%, it took literally around 3 hours to charge back to 100%. The specs for output is [email protected] manufactured by PHIHONG
You can do, up to 1000 mA are allowed
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I am in the UK and looking for a two pin euro charger for my phone - if it is packaged with a 12v charger or any other kit i dont really mind, as I could do with an extra car one.
Alternately - I have a 'plug' for a UK socket that instead of having a cable on it has a socket like a car charger at the back, so I can use it with a car charger for any new mobile I get so I have a second mains charger - is there a euro-two pin plg equivalent of this?
Cheers
Any USB charger (there are many varieties) should work fine, so you just have to find a Euro-plugged USB charger then stick the USB cable into the charger.
For example, I have the iPod USB charger with swappable front plugs, which charge my Wizard, Sony Ericsson phone and the iPod.
Exactly, but it is finding a two pin one that is the problem.
Try Expansys. They usually have a wide variety of weird and random plug combinations so you might be lucky there.
alternatively - a bit uglier - get a travel plug converter (just the plug converter, not the big transformers). The charger that came in the box is rated for 100V-240V and ~50Hz-~60Hz - so it'll work in EU, USA, UK, JP - as long as I bring the plug converter so that it'll physically fit
Here.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5818157604&rd=1&sspagename=STRK:MEWA:IT&rd=1
£5.99 plus postage. Uses the standard usb cable that came with the device.
I've bought a few things from them - good quality.
pewe said:
Here.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5818157604&rd=1&sspagename=STRK:MEWA:IT&rd=1
£5.99 plus postage. Uses the standard usb cable that came with the device.
I've bought a few things from them - good quality.
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By default, the standard USB sync cable will not charge from a cigarette lighter / mains adaptor USB socket, it will only charge via a computer.
If you want to modify the cable so it will charge from a cigarette lighter etc, you need to short pins 4 and 5 of the mini USB end. Do a google search for a diagram etc. Once modified the cable will no longer work as a sync cable.
Richard
By default, the standard USB sync cable will not charge from a cigarette lighter / mains adaptor USB socket
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I am puzzled. I understand what you are saying about the connections, but what puzzles me is I have a GPS receiver that I bought which came with a flexible USB charger and had a cigarette adapter and mains adapter (both US and UK) in the box.
I bought a cradle for my Vario (complete with usb sync cable) so don't need the the usb sync cable supplied with the Vario in the office. So I use it in the car with the USB Cigarette adapter that came with the GPS unit and it charges the Vario in the car with no problem.
I haven't tried it with the USB mains adapter yet, but having seen the above reply will try it tomorrow, but I'm sure it will work because its the cable that should prevent it.
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By default, the standard USB sync cable will not charge from a cigarette lighter / mains adaptor USB socket, it will only charge via a computer.
If you want to modify the cable so it will charge from a cigarette lighter etc, you need to short pins 4 and 5 of the mini USB end. Do a google search for a diagram etc. Once modified the cable will no longer work as a sync cable.
Richard
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I beg to differ. My shiny white Apple iPod USB charger works perfectly as a charger for the Wizard, with the USB cable provided with the phone.
I'm aware that some phones including the Razr and Blackberry are sometimes reported to be picky about the USB chargers, but so far Wizard has no such curiosities.
ZeBoxx said:
alternatively - a bit uglier - get a travel plug converter (just the plug converter, not the big transformers). The charger that came in the box is rated for 100V-240V and ~50Hz-~60Hz - so it'll work in EU, USA, UK, JP - as long as I bring the plug converter so that it'll physically fit
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Not really viable - as often when abroad i just take a rucksack and see where i end up - so ideally everything is light and preferably a cable that is permanently attached to the plug.
Incidentally - there is a company in italy called Wind doing a PAYG sim that offers a gig of data in Italy for 20 euros - so not much use to most here - but if you use it for roaming in europe - they drop it to 20% of that - so 204.8 meg for 20 euros per month - Tmobile charges 1500 and orange 2 grand for the same!
So I visited my local Walmart and discovered a car charger, designed for Blackberry 6200 through 7500 and Motorola RAZR series phones.
The connector is the same, mini USB B.
$25,000 Question: Can I use this to charge my TMO MDA? Same connection, just worried the voltage or wiring might not be the same.
The AC chargers that came with my Razr and MDA are the same voltage-wise (5V) but not the same Amps.
MDA is 5V 1A, Razr is 5V 0.5A, they are not the same
However, it shouldn't damage the battery, just charge slower.
Just so you know, USB ports output 5V at 0.5A as well.
Edit: Sorry, I realize I completely changed my post, but didn't want incorrect info out there.
Thanks...I figured that, but was just making sure.
I got it in case of emergency...I almost always charge via USB; just leave it plugged in all day.
But you never know.....
Thanks!
fuzzie said:
Thanks...I figured that, but was just making sure.
I got it in case of emergency...I almost always charge via USB; just leave it plugged in all day.
But you never know.....
Thanks!
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Don't expect it to charge if you battery is below 30-20% charge. I'm not sure why this is an issue but it has bitten me in the rear once already.
Does anybody know why it's a problem for "less-than-1amp" chargers to charge back from the low threshold?
boxwave.com sells a 1 amp car charger. It has a USB port, so you just use it with any cable that normally plugs into a USB port. Since my Globalsat GBH-820 BT adapter came with a cable with large USB at one end, and _two_ mini USB at the other end, I can charge the GBH-820 and my 8125 at the same time.
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boxwave.com sells a 1 amp car charger. It has a USB port, so you just use it with any cable that normally plugs into a USB port. Since my Globalsat GBH-820 BT adapter came with a cable with large USB at one end, and _two_ mini USB at the other end, I can charge the GBH-820 and my 8125 at the same time.
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That's not true,... if you use the VersaCharger like I do. This is where I learned of the "charging only" cable that Boxwave sells (how conveinent) and then they sell a Sync/charger for USB only. I have a Boxwave VersaCharger that I can't use without buying their "cable" to make it charge the 8125. I found this out because I have a Belkin retractable sync/charge cable that doesn't work with the VersaCharger as I had hoped. The cable that you have may work with 1amp charger but it probably won't work with theVersaCharger.
What is the output on the "min-usb" connector end of the cable? This sounds like the cable that I need for the 2 devices that I use.
...I wonder if they are putting some electronics in the cable connector...?
I bought the bundle that had a car charger (I have the regular; not the high output; not the Versa) and two mini-Sync (retractable) cables. I got caught by the fact that one of them is "charging only" when I was trying to use the "charging only" cable between my laptop and my TI-84plus calculator. I switched to the mini-USB cable that came with my calculator, and it worked fine, as did my phone with AS. That's when I looked closer at the two mini-sync cables and noticed that one was for "charging only". So, that mini-sync cable (the charging only) stays in the car, and works fine for charging my phone or my GBH-820. The really odd thing is that the "charging only" cable looks "thicker" than the one that works for syncing. Maybe lower gauge wire to help the higher current flow easier.
I have also used my other USB-miniUSB cables with my car adapter. E.g. the cable that came with the phone, the cable that came with my TI-84plus calculator.
My Bluetake headphones came with their own USB cable that has, for lack of any better term, an ultraminiUSB (or some kind of proprietary connector, cause it's not marked with a USB symbol like the other cables) plug at the end. I just plug the regular USB end of that cable into the car charger, and it charges the Bluetake's just fine.
Excellent car charger for Wizard
I have purchased and used the "Ecovell 4x USB" adapter on both a Wizard and a Universal. It provides a 2 Amp output which is equivalent to the AC adapter and works with any mini-USB cable. It will charge a Universal from absolutely dead which I have not been able to do with any other adapter. Here is the link to the item on Yes Depot:
http://www.yesdepot.com/product/ud0520.html
I've ordered from them and the service was OK. I haven't seen the item available anywhere else.
Regards,
Dave
I can't seem to find a usb to "whatever it is" wire selling..
is it a standard micro USB port?
leobox1 said:
I can't seem to find a usb to "whatever it is" wire selling..
is it a standard micro USB port?
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yes... u r rite... itz a MICRO USB...
But it can't supply power to a USB device, so it can't be used like a PC USB port. It's only good for recharging and syncing.
so if i want to buy an additional wire, i look for a USB to MICRO USB wire right? no need to buy from HTC right?
cause i saw one usb that is smaller but it doesn't fit.. is there a MINI USB port too?
am confused
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But it can't supply power to a USB device, so it can't be used like a PC USB port. It's only good for recharging and syncing.
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Erm yes it can,
Actually better take the device with you. Sellers here told me there is like 7 different very similar connectors. However this one should be the standard micro USB, which is supposed to be universal charger/sync cable in the future (at least in EU).
And yes, of course, there is mini USB. And there even are more versions of mini USB, for example HTC used their own.
You had better use HTC cables. HD2 is microusb, but not all microusb cables are good for HD2. Like iPhone, it takes a large charging current, and many no brand cables cannot do it. I've got a third party cable that syncs only, but if charged from the PC, the HD2 will say that the charging current is too small. Battery actually drops when I connect HD2 to PC using this cable (because my options set it that backlight is always on when HD2 is connected). Other combinations are OK:
original cable + AC plug: charging OK
original cable + PC: charging OK
third party cable + AC plug: charging OK
third party cable + PC: "insufficient charging current"
Be careful with cables- you'd be better to buy the genuine HTC version.
Many USB/MicroUSB cables are for charging only, and don't have the data pins connected. Thats OK if you just want to charge it while you are away from your main PC or power supply.
You can also buy a miniUSB/MicroUSB adapter for charging using and older miniSUB charger, but again these don't have the data pins connected.
I bought a number of 3rd party USB to microUSB cables a month ago for sync and charging (office, PC, bedside charging), so far so good... no issues (maybe I'm lucky). The OmniaII uses the same connector, so I'm using the HTC car charger to charge both.
I bought Nokia's cable (for E71,N97,etc.) and it work just fine with charging from laptop. much cheaper than HTC in here.
if you are going for the cheapo option...
http://shop.ebay.co.uk/?_from=R40&_trksid=m38&_nkw=MICRO+USB+SYNC%26+CHARGE+CABLE+for+HTC+HD2+HD+2+Leo+T8585
i got a couple from ebay - arrived the next day. - charge/sync fine.
charger from iPhone
The iPhone charger coud be used for charging HD2. Just plug the microUSB cord instead of iPhones and ... voila. The same outputs
N86-8megapixel cable doesnt work..
So I managed to leave my HTC cable at work (2 days after getting the Telstra HD2 in OZ) and now I am on 4-5 days leave from work and really want to tinker with my phone. I think I may end up having to go back to work to collect the HTC cable - as below... challenge to get non-HTC cable to work.
I found that my wife's N86-8megapixel nokia has a similar micro-usb cable.
When connected to the PC the phone starts charging and the PC does the "doo-doop" sound a "appears" to connect to the phone, but active sync cannot detect the phone \ sync.
I see others have had success with nokia cables - I am wondering if there is something wierd going on.
Does *any* Micro USB cable work with the Nexus One?
Like this one:
http://www.amazon.com/BlackBerry-Cable-Micro-1-0m-Black/dp/B001QATRCA/
The G1 USB cable I currently use was the same price as the above, but it was actually branded as a "G1" cable.
Anyone know for sure?
yes, any micro USB cable. Heres a breakdown:
If your phone has an extUSB port, any extUSB cable or miniUSB cable will work.
If your phone has a miniUSB port, any miniUSB cable will work, extUSB would work but it cannot physically fit into a miniUSB port.
If your phone has a microUSB port, any microUSB cable will work, but no miniUSB or extUSB will work.
extUSB is HTC's semi-proprietary USB port which is simply miniUSB with an audio connector and unique socket shape.
All USB ports and cables of the same form factor have the same pinout.
MicroUSB has replaced MiniUSB and all new released portable devices will have microUSB most likely.
Xperia X10 miniPro connections?
Hi Folks - This is my first post and still getting used to how this board works, so please be patient with me!
I've got a similar problem regarding miniUSB leads... I've recently bought a Sony Ericsson Xperia X10 miniPro... It charges via the USB port but the connector is not standard!
I'm wondering if anyone knows the pin-out of the socket and also where leads with such a connector can be purchased online?
Thanks for any help!
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And you thought asking Nexus One owners would be a good idea?
Try a Sony section, someone there is bound to know.
All microusb cables are not the same I found this out recently.
I bought a microusb "blackberry" that fit into my nexus one no problem but when I tried to use it to transfer files; windows would act like it didn't know what device it was.
Now i'm currently using a kodak microusb that will allow windows to know its the nexus one and I can I mount my phone but everything is copy write protected.
So when I get home I have to go back to my old beat up cord that wont stay in my phone until I find a suitable replacement that will let me mount and access the files.
I bought some blackberry microusb cables on Amazon for a penny back in March (yes, 1 penny each!). They work perfectly for everything. I guess somehow wondercoolguy managed to find cables that were even cheaper then mine
pfmiller said:
I bought some blackberry microusb cables on Amazon for a penny back in March (yes, 1 penny each!). They work perfectly for everything. I guess somehow wondercoolguy managed to find cables that were even cheaper then mine
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This BB wire fits the nexus like a glove but hates transferring information. Yes I got my wire for 1.00 from a mertine if I remember correctly....I hate that place
Afaik any micro usb cable will work. Micro usb is the new standard.
I haven't seen any charging-only cables but that is a possibility.
http://m.gizmodo.com/5389063/united-nations-approves-microusb-universal-phone-charger-standard
I have been using micro-usb cable for my external disk, Nexus/GalaxyS and my previously own Nokia N97. No problem for charging, transfer files or tethering. I even use old N97 charger (micro-usb connection) on Nexus One before. None of these had any problem.
Micro-USB is a standard connection, there shouldn't be a problem. If there is, it could be due to the system mainboard or mainboard's USB port itself. Try not to connect too many devices through a USB-hub that link up from a USB port of the system. If you really need connect it via a USB-hub, get those hub has a dedicated power adapter.
Just buy any cheap cable, it will work. I also bought two official HTC chargers for my phone as well as some random USB to microUSB cables. All work fine, just as do the cables from my Nokia phones, cameras and cables I found under my girlfriend's bed lol
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I dont know if anything I said was taken to heart please disregard it because I found out that my work disabled the flash drives to read only. It's not the cables fault all my cables work at home sorry
Does anyone know if you can use the g1 car charger with the Samsung Vibrant? I read that the Samsung vibrant uses mini usb but of course that does not mean it will work properly. Thanks
No, the Vibrant is micro usb, not mini.
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Does anyone know if you can use the g1 car charger with the Samsung Vibrant? I read that the Samsung vibrant uses mini usb but of course that does not mean it will work properly. Thanks
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Yeah, like it was said, micro usb, but on ebay you can find mini to micro usb converters... I bought 2 for .99 cent a piece shipped and they even transmit data, sadly one has some loose connections but the seller refunded me right away for it.
Other than that I am not sure it's the most efficient (I haven't looked at what the g1 power supply sends amp wise, nor the max the vibrant can take) but it would work, as long as you get the right male end (again, micro usb)
Also, there is a accessories forum that this would have been better suited for.
EDIT: Sorry, I may have spoke too soon. If it was an HTC charger it might not work since only one corner of the male end is cut and the other is straight, that is their proprietary male connector that has extra pins and will not fit in a female mini usb port. Now if it was an aftermarket that was a true mini usb, then you can get a converter... Otherwise you can just get a car charger that has the standard female USB A port and plug in any USB A to Micro cable... Point is, if it is USB you are on the right track.