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Hi All,
To stresstest my application I ran Microsofts "Hopper". It jumps around generating lots of random touchscreen and button-input in order to see if an application is robuste enough to withstand this. My application was ;-) but apparreantly Homescreen/Starter was not: it now refuses to react on ticking the programs on the starter-page. Other pages work ok, but on the starter-page the tapped icons gets selected, but nothing happens.
Anyone any idea where this behaviour can be corrected?
htc-pharos
John

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caller id monitor

Hi i have problem some times caller id show just number when someone call me sometimes(same number) show name from contacts how to fixit
Same thing here...
Sometimes it works, sometimes it does not... Actually it has only worked a couple of times...
At first I thought I was closing the ID Contact Monitor when I used an application close button (Battery Back from Omega One). But then I noticed that it still does not work even without the app closer.
Any clues?
I believe that this is probably down to the 32 process limitation of WM2003 on the XDAII 28 processes open automatically as you open programs the XDAII will close what it thinks isn't needed any more.
Can anyone confirm? :?
Hmmm... It could very well be that... :roll:
If you don't use the "permanent save" feature, then you can delete the 4 flashman files out of the \windows\startup folder.
this gives 4 more process slots. Making the number of running processes at startup more in line with a normal XDA.
wasting 4 process slots on 4 different programs that do the same thing to 4 different databases is rediculous. Having them running even when the feature is turned off is also rediculous.
..Chuck..
Yes, thanks... I deleted the task I don't use and now IACaller is working fine ever since...
Thanks!
I've upgraded to the new ROM, and only the lesser 19 processes now, meant to alleviate this problem.
In addition, it's a newer fix of Caller ID.
And even more, I removed the FOUR flashman/mem processes from startup too.
And even then, I find after just half a day of running apps and stuff, Caller ID no longer shows a photo, and requires a reboot to work properly.
Not happy at all, not in the slightest. Not in the least bit impressed, because i see little else that can be done to fix this, so no likliehood of a solution.
VERY poor to say the least.
Shadamehr,
Are you using an application closer like Pocket Plus or Wisbar?
If not, I suggest you use one. Remember that whithout an app closer you are consuming valuable resources and the X only minimizes them.
Best regards,
Rayan
I was using SideBarX.
What I find however, is that this is the WORSE thing to use, as it closes ALL apps, so if the Caller ID HAD happened to just recently update itself, it would close that too, so in effect, closing the very thing with any potential to fix things.
Alas, I find the only thing that works, is to do a soft reset twice or three times a day.
Not a great loss given how quick re-boot time is, but a bit of a stupid solution nonetheless.
Additionally, I find another slight issue, in that if I get an SMS, when I click the notification envelope on the top bar to open it (if I had left it, not catching it straight away, so the first pop up of it had already gone) then the 'speech bubble' that appears with the message in, is REALLY slow now after the new ROM update, taking a second or two to draw itself properly. I can see the outline of the bubble for a fair while before the bubble 'draws' on screen properly.
Sadly however, it even does this after a soft reset to speed things up, so I am very concerned about this aspect of things.
It worked a lot faster before the update.
The rest of the update has been a good thing for me, but I am a bit angry about the Caller ID problem still being here at least for me, but more worryingly, I am concerned at the apparent speed slow down for some things! Especially as I have read tales of others experiencing this too.
But overall, its nothing earth-shattering I guess.
Shadamehr,
As far as the CallerID problem, at first I was having the same problems but I managed to fix this by removing unwanted items on the startup folder (remember the 32 process limit?) and by using Pocket Plus, since it allows you to exclude CallerID from closing.
I also use ScaryBear Software's Check Notifications to remove duplicate events on my system's databases.
Good luck!
Rayan
Pocket Plus? Cheers mate - I'll go search now.
Here's hoping it works.
Also, the new ROM is only meant to have 19 things running. I have further removed the four flashman files from startup.
Do you know of anything else I can remove?
Cheers mate.
Can't find Pocket Plus mate (at least not as a free app).
Any link for me please?
I don't remember what things where in the Startup folder but this is the stuff I have now:
CheckAutoRun.lnk <--- No idea what this is for
ChgDfLnk.lnk <--- No idea what this is for
ClearTemp.lnk <--- I installed this
IA_Caller_ID.lnk
MMReg.lnk <--- No idea what this is for
Pocket Plus.lnk
Poutlook.lnk
Stk.lnk
VoiceCommand.lnk <--- Microsoft's Voice Command
Cheers and good luck!
Rayan
You can find it here http://www.handango.com/SearchRedirect.jsp?siteId=1&jid=2BD54724B6D87D58BA6CB6BA8BB79B81
Cheers!
Hi all,
I've the problem with with my XDA II and IA Caller ID. It works for one or two hours and then impossible to see a picture. The only thing to do is a soft reset.
I've checked the processes and I'm now with 16 processes (using PHM Task Manager to see the processes) and when the problem occurs, the IA_Caller_ID process is still active.
For information, I use WisBar advance to really close my programs and I kill ActiveSync every time I leave the XDA from the cradle.
Thanks for your help...
hello,
Do you put pictures in your SD Card ?
If yes, try with pictures in your phone memory.
I have the same problem with ringtone in my old Qtek (first generation SPV by Orange)
Sometimes, the sdcard is poweroff to preserve battery life...
test and come back ;-)
THe picture is in "/my documents" none on the SD card
Now it's new, sometimes the XDAII doesn't ring at all. The screen lights on but no ring and no information. :shock:

How to prevent OS exiting my applications?

Hi,
I noticed that OS constantly unloads my applications.
Say, I visit some page using IE, then switch to another application, then switch back - it is usually at the same page, but, probably depending on idle time, it sporadically gets closed.
That said, when I go to IE again, it starts afresh on its initial page and I must reload my page again. Needless to say, in most cases this is unacceptable. (extra traffic, so it costs $$, also GPRS could become unavailable etc :x )
How do I PREVENT this behaviour?
Not only IE suffers, any application! Sporadically exits despite of fact there are tons of free memory and I would better free resources with another way than just closing what is required for me.
I have elder device with PocketPC 3.0 (Cassiopeia E-125) and it does NOT behave in such a way. Does not close even it has 4times less memory! Now I understand how nice it is.
While this problem persists, I forced to have both devices with me.
Please help me solving this!
Vadim.
I've noticed the same behavior randomly also. I don't have a fix, but you're not alone.
What ROM version are you using? There was an issue with the earlier ROMS in that there were too many programs running and when you launched another program the OS would terminate a background program to provide the necesssary process space.
The newer ROMs have solved this problem, but CheckNotify and ClearNotify (search the forum) will help with the earlier ROMs.
This is an old problem, related to the number of running processes.
Consult this thread
http://www.ppcw.net/?itemid=1645
which will show you how to solve it. Also the newer roms cut down on the number of processes at startup, which helps.
Surur
Mine is much more random than that described. Sometimes I can have a half dozen apps open with no problem, and sometimes a single app will close itself while I work in the phone or the Today screen.
Carlos said:
Mine is much more random than that described. Sometimes I can have a half dozen apps open with no problem, and sometimes a single app will close itself while I work in the phone or the Today screen.
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Don't forget that we are talking processes, not appications, here. One app. may have many processes and multiple app's may use the same common processes. Therefore, launching one application can generate a number of new processes and that can push you over the limit (e.g. ActiveSync, which launches three or four I recall), so something gets nuked.
I understand, and was looking for a pattern, but there is none. In fact, it seems reversed, as it happens more often while I'm just out and about and less frequenty while the device is in the cradle. Very often it happens after a fresh boot with a single app running.
I may look at it more closely with a process viewer. It's not bugging me enough to make it a priority.
Thank you all for providing many help!
surur said:
This is an old problem, related to the number of running processes.
Consult this thread
http://www.ppcw.net/?itemid=1645
which will show you how to solve it. Also the newer roms cut down on the number of processes at startup, which helps.
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That explains it all, many fruitful comments, and a prove that there could be no fix but just temporary solutions to reduce a problem a bit.
It is a bit larger problem in my case, because I use special sotware to support Russian.
Too bad MS can't recognize and fix such a big design mistakes.

Interesting situation with outlook

Hey all has anybody else experienced this? when I open up outlook to check emails or text messages outlook's background doesn't load up, I can see on the top bar the name of the inbox I'm currently supposed to be looking at but the background is my today screen. I can send new messages but basically I can't read new ones if I try to touch the screen I activate whatever I hit on my today screen. I took off all my today screen plugins, but nothing, if anyone has any suggestions or ideas, I would appreciate it.
Sounds obvious and stupid but have you turned the device (hold power button) and back on again? This happens to me sometimes and after a reboot it seems to fix it.
Yeah I do the same thing, the only problem is that it's doing it too often and it's a pain to reset my phone 3 - 4 times a day.
Oh i see. Mine has never done it that often, sorry I can't help any more!
You have a software conflict somewhere - it will be v hard to track down. You could try uninstalling some especially if you have spb products installed as they often are the culprits. But you probably need to hard reset and add programs one by one to find the one.
I had this problem in the past (with old ROMs though)
The way I managed to overcome this is to keep outlook running in the background.
I'm using the Spb Pocket Plus and in the "close button configuration" I added the outlook to the exceptions list. By keeping it running, it always come back with a complete screen (not just top and bottom).
But then again, I didn't see this behavior since I upgraded the ROM; I'm on the 2.26 ROM now.
@gilbnx
Yeah was just thinking of doing something like that more or less.
@meschle
The only spb software I have is spb backup, I always works at first it's just at some point after I've been using the system for a while that it starts doing it. It could be after opening some application and I just haven't noticed. I'll try opening one application at a time and checking to see if it stops working after a certain one, yes tedious I know, but tell you the truth I don't use a whole lotta applications, so I'll stick to the ones I usually open up.
For those of you having this problem, if you are using smartkey, make sure outlook, MMS, Text messaging, are set to be ignored, just like it is in the default smartkey.ini. I had altered the ini and taken out all the programs since I wanted them all to close, but I noticed it started happening after closing outlook with smartkey, so I put it back on ignore and haven't had any problems since (and I hope I won't).

Very Strange problem

Hi! I was using the device normally. Suddenly, all of sudden, the screen went on full brightness and the device started vibrating oddly. A pop-up message came on the screen notifying me,"main battery very low". The battery was 91%. My unit is just 2months old. Also, one more pop-up comes which says,"unidentified USB device".
Also, I went to the settings>>memory. Strangely, it showed the memory devided into 2parts(just like WM2003)
So, I got 3 questions..
1)Anyone got any clue what/why happened?
2)Has anyone else experienced this?
3)What can I do to avoid this problem in future?
I have been an active member in the forums. But, this problem is something, I have never heard of. Please help
I had something similar and I put it down to an application I used to close programs instead of minimising them. I had the full brightness, and the memory panel showing the old WM2003 screen with the slider to adjust between programs and storage.
Have you been doing anything similar? If so try it for a while without the app that closes programs, and let WM look after its memory.
Hope this helps
Matt
matt1971 said:
I had something similar and I put it down to an application I used to close programs instead of minimising them. I had the full brightness, and the memory panel showing the old WM2003 screen with the slider to adjust between programs and storage.
Have you been doing anything similar? If so try it for a while without the app that closes programs, and let WM look after its memory.
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Exactly, it happened to me just 1day after I uninstalled Wisbar Advance2. Actually, I m software reviewer too and I try out many apps(was trying the official beta of handyswitcher from past two days). Handyswitcher used to minimise the apps and let them run in the background.
But, now, wisbar advance is up again and so far so good because now I close all the apps after I use them
Still curious to know why it happens? And what are you doing to stay out of this problem?
i got it too once, no idea why it happens though...
Midget_1990 said:
i got it too once, no idea why it happens though...
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Which task manager do you use?(considering the fact that you dont get this 'odd' screen now). Also, were you using a task manager at that time?
Looks like the people who are letting the windows manage the memory are more prone to it(?)
BTW, congrats on becoming a MOD *clap* *clap* *clap*
I've had the same problem with mine too... sometimes when im writing a semi-long email or txt, the screen goes to full brightness, then ANY program i try to load, says its unsigned... all the text goes white, and i have to reboot to get back to normal.... PLUS i'll lose any recently saved txts/emails/notes :S
REALLY annoying... no ones every come up with an explanation :S
Plus i don't have any extra installed apps, and ive tried several different ROMs... so hmmmm weird!
Just happened again ASA I had taken-off wisbar advance 2 for a while.
Grrrr..
It appears that it happens when you leave multiple apps in the background. Second reason can be, what Pooper said that it mostly happens when you are typing a SMS in messaging app.
Interestingly, this never happens, when the device is in Tablet(portait) mode
Now, activated wisbar advance again, no problem. But, it takes away lots of precious RAM
I think WM6 beta is better choice to avoid the issue. I use WM6 CE 5.2.1413 (internal 17913.0.3.0) rom 2.21.01 CHS (S-Chinese). I have not ocurred the issue you have mentioned. good luck.

Mystery box

Hi Guys,
i dont know if anyone else is getting this but i never had it before, i keep getting what looks to be a small notification box appearing but you cant see it as it seems to appear then shoot beneath everything, it seems to be when about to write a text and using a couple of other bits it will pop up. The notification box itself is small and has a small 'ok' option to the top right of it
any ideas??
most certainly you have installed something that's causing this, I've went through 4 different roms including the stock and never encountered anything similar.
Review the running tasks with a taskmanager like MMTaskManager, or the list of installed applications via settings-apps-remove apps, you'll need to use your investigative talents to identify the cause

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