How is the touch sensitivity on the Nexus One? I ask because my myTouch 3G has serious sensitivity issues towards the edges of the screen. It either won't register a touch or it will only register after pressing harder than normal.
Also, how is the sensitivity compared to an iPhone?
I would say its equal to the iphone if not a little bit better.
Supposed to be a capasitive display, so no need to press at all, touching is enouh.
some time is good, some time is not very responsive, my friend say the weather is too cold, it need to warm up to working. just kidding
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Supposed to be a capasitive display, so no need to press at all, touching is enouh.
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Well, the myTouch 3g also has a capacitive touch screen, but mine definitely has sensitivity issues. For instance, when viewing a video, it is extremely hard to jump to different spots using the slider at the bottom of the screen. It just won't respond most of the time.
i knwo what you mean. i had a mytouch 3g and switched to nexus one. I can confirm sensitivity on nexus one is MUCH better, on par with an iphone.
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Well, the myTouch 3g also has a capacitive touch screen, but mine definitely has sensitivity issues. For instance, when viewing a video, it is extremely hard to jump to different spots using the slider at the bottom of the screen. It just won't respond most of the time.
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That could easily be the processor not responding, not the screen...
How does the screen feel?(is it glass like as on ipodtouch/phone)
I have the g1 and I hate the plastic feel of the screen. Makes swiping feel odd
In didn't expect to be this impressed to be fair. Only thing so far is I keep missing the spacebar when entering text
the nexus one screen is glass.
I haven't had a single problem hitting menus/keys and I can safely say I love the touchscreen and response from the N1 more than my iPhone & iPhone 3G.
Screen sensitivity doesn't seem to be as good as the 3GS, but it's really so close that you would have to have used an iPhone for 3 years, like me, to really be able to tell the difference. The difference is so small that most likely won't notice it, but you call tell the difference when trying to select links in the browser, without the trackball, for example.
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Hi all,
I have read a lot about the G1. Some reviewers say that the screen is the same as the iPhone 3G, just 3.2" instead of 3.5" and others say that the iPhone 3G has a better quality screen that produces an overall better quality image. Also, the iPhone is said to have a more sensitive touch response than the G1.
I have also read somewhere in this forum that somebody said the screen of the G1 is much better than the Touch Diamond based on personal experience and opinion.
Since the screen plays a big part in the functionality and appearance of touch phones, I would really like to know how the screens of the following phones compare to each other and why one is better than the other:
HTC Touch Pro
HTC Touch Diamond
HTC Dream (G1)
iPhone 3G
Thanx!
I am not the best person to answer your question since I only have limited experience with the iPhone and I have never used the Touch Pro or Diamond, but I do have a small amount of insight to share.
#1) The G1's screen is absolutely beautiful, it is practically impossible for you to be disappointed upon looking at it. It is nicer than an iPod or PSP screen for sure.
#2) The Diamond and Pro use Resistive Touch Screens, which are the old fashioned touch screens with a film over the top that bends when you touch it. Designed for styluses. The iPhone and G1 use Capacitive screens, which means there is no loose layer on top, but it will only work with your finger. If you try to touch it with a regular plastic stylus nothing will happen.
#3) The G1's screen is very responsive, the only problems that I have ever had is when the software's UI doesn't make the button big enough for a fingertip. One unfortunate example is the slider on media apps, it is occasionally difficult to grab and move but it has nothing to do with the screen itself.
I can confirm the screen is amazing.
The default brightness came set down, I cranked it up and it is bright and super sharp. The resolution of the screen is the same as the iPhone but is just a little smaller, the size to me is perfect and I have no complaints about it at all, even when its sitting next to an iPhone. I find it far superior in quality and resolution than Resistive screens. I don't miss VGA resolutions since this looks so beautiful with the help of the OS. I would say the Screen is as good or better than the iPhone in terms of quality and brightness.
The sensitivity is super sensative in a good way. you dont have to apply any presure, and it will sense even your skin floating above the screen if you can get it that close. The UI takes advantage of the screen and is super responsive like the iPhone when you use it. There is some stutter here and there but less often noticed. I beleive its because the G1 runs programs in the background and sometimes the memory management hangs for a split sec. IMHO the touch response is the same as the iphone, just the UI has to catch up some times creating a jitter/snag.
Short Generalization:
Better than diamond/touch pro because size, brightness and Capacitive touch response.
same as iphone except size. UI is what stutters not screens fault, this also happens in the iphone, but is less often than G1; but G1 can run other applications in the background.
Good Bye WM! See you in a couple of years.
Jcostanza4
Hi,
Thanks for the responses, it seems that the general opinion of the screen is good. Most people say that it looks and works (with finger touch) better than the diamond series phones and that it can compare to the iPhone.
I think most likely, a side by side comparison would show that the iPhone has slightly better image quality simply because the screen has 16M colors as opposed to the 65K colors of the G1 but that is not going to stop me from buying a G1 over an iPhone.
Enjoy the phone everyone, it sounds awesome so far!
First things first: I generally like my HD2 - It's fast, has a nice display and a lot of other nice features but the touch screen outright sucks and is bordering on useless. Of course the iphone screen isn't much better but it still beats the HD2 screen hands down.
What's all the fuss about capacitive screens? All I can see is a loss in functionality. I hear their more durable but who cares whether the screen lasts 3 years or 10???? It's nowhere near as precise as any other touch screen device I ever owned. I can't use a stylus for drawing small things or playing most games....try playing crayon physics with this absolute piece of junk...or Warfare Incorporated.
I installed a sensitivity fix cab and it's somewhat usable for day to day stuff but still.....the 4.3" screen is nowhere near as usable as the 3" my X1 had and I could operate that with my finger only quite all right.
Seems like there nothing in capacitive screens other than being iphone-like. Why not have a 4.3" resistive screen? What's the actual downside?
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try playing crayon physics
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I am and it works just fine for me
There are styluses (styli?) available for cap. screens also though.
The advantige of capacitive touch screens:
Glass can be used. Less vulnerable.
multi touch can be implemented.
more touch sensetive.
The advantige of resistive touch screens:
more accurate without software.
simple styles can be used.
cheap.
greatings,
marc
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I can't use a stylus for drawing small things or playing most games....try playing crayon physics with this absolute piece of junk...or Warfare Incorporated.
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Get ready to be flamed for your attitude. Coming onto a forum for fans of a device and calling it an "absolute piece of junk" is a pretty good way to not make friends!
Anyway, I finished Crayon Physics the other day, and had no problems doing so with my fingers. I suggest that the hardware isn't the problem here. Everyone else seems to manage fine.
I'd say the biggest downside of capacitive screens is the absence of multitouch capabilities. I have absolutely no problems operating my phone with it's capacitive screen. So to speak, Windows Mobile 6.x.x isn't really optimized for it anyways, as the HD2 was the first phone with capacitive screen on the platform.
If you wanted to work precise with a stylus then maybe you shouldn't have bought an HD2 in the first place.
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... try playing crayon physics with this absolute piece of junk
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No offence but I would say that not being able to play/finish crayon physics deluxe with this peace of jewellery is of course not caused by the screen or the phone. I would search the cause somewhere else.....
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First things first: I generally like my HD2 - It's fast, has a nice display and a lot of other nice features but the touch screen outright sucks and is bordering on useless. Of course the iphone screen isn't much better but it still beats the HD2 screen hands down.
What's all the fuss about capacitive screens? All I can see is a loss in functionality. I hear their more durable but who cares whether the screen lasts 3 years or 10???? It's nowhere near as precise as any other touch screen device I ever owned. I can't use a stylus for drawing small things or playing most games....try playing crayon physics with this absolute piece of junk...or Warfare Incorporated.
I installed a sensitivity fix cab and it's somewhat usable for day to day stuff but still.....the 4.3" screen is nowhere near as usable as the 3" my X1 had and I could operate that with my finger only quite all right.
Seems like there nothing in capacitive screens other than being iphone-like. Why not have a 4.3" resistive screen? What's the actual downside?
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The whole benefit of a capacitive screen for me is that I don't have to use a stylus. If I wanted to use a stylus I would have gone for a different phone.
Why did you buy this phone if you wanted to use a stylus? You can however get one, have you tried that first before falling out with the phone? It could fulfill all your needs and then you'll see how good the HD2 is.
I think that it is a matter of habit and getting used to resistive screens in your case. I havent had a resistive screen ever but i played a quite a lot with some and i must say that capacitive is much more interactive, finger friendly and intuitive than resistive so you might just try not to be so stuborn and give it a chance Everytime i try to do something with my girlfriends' resistive samsung and i keep getting stuck with not knowing how hard should I push the screen exactly ... I am not a fan of the resistive and after all it is called TOUCH screen not a Push screen Enjoy your Hd mate !
You can use fingers on resistive touchscreens. These days even resistive touchscreens can have multitouch.
I think the main advantage of capacitive screen is the glass, as was mentioned. Resistive screen must deform under the touching object, which means it wears down.
For phone, capacitive screen is just ok.
For tablet PCs, I'd like to see combination of capacitive screen with electromagnetic stylus (like tablet has) where you could switch the mode.
Capacitive screen is good for fast controls, but if you draw with stylus, you don't want the screen to react on random touches.
For example iPad has rather thick borders around the screen .. because you have to hold it somehow without actually touching the screen.
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try playing crayon physics with this absolute piece of junk
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The game is so addictive i completed this morning. Try junking your fingers?
A capacitive screen makes our screen a real touch screen instead of 'tap screen'.
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The advantige of capacitive touch screens:
more touch sensetive.
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I don't think so. Resistive is much more sensitive and precise. Pen stroke input used to be the reason PPC stuck to resistive input.
Being an HD2 fan doesn't mean a capacitive fan. Capacitive is the reason that I nearly bought an Omnia II instead of HD2. For me, it is something to hate.
With resistive, I don't mind carrying around a stylus when it means I can do precision work. And I can still use my fingers when I need to.
Now that we have WVGA, I believe now that we can sacrifice screen estate and use huge UIs so that capacitive screen can survive. But that means old applications written for resistive screens (including WM6.1 dialogues) usually have too small UIs for use on HD2.
Alex, That the Capacitive touch is more sensetive is an advantige, with the interface or software you can decrese the sensetivety. On resistive touch screens it is technicaly inposible to get the sensetivety as high as on capacitive.
It is posible to make resistive touch screens multitouch. only that takes a lot of software to calculate positions of pressing.
The techniek is very different between both. therefore you love it or you don't. some get used to it, some don't. It is all personal. There are even people who love the small keyboards. And even my wife loves only the number keys on the normal simple phones since she uses the dictionairy. And I have to say, She is faster writing a sms than me.
So everyone should use whatever they like. Every option has it's advantiges.
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Get ready to be flamed for your attitude. Coming onto a forum for fans of a device and calling it an "absolute piece of junk" is a pretty good way to not make friends!
Anyway, I finished Crayon Physics the other day, and had no problems doing so with my fingers. I suggest that the hardware isn't the problem here. Everyone else seems to manage fine.
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I should have been more specific: The junk I'm referring to is the screen and NOT the device. Like I said, I like the device but IMHO all the 'advantages' of capacitive don't make up for its downsides.
Just to address some of the comments:
Resistive screens CAN be touch operated without a stylus
They do NOT break down all the time
AFAIK they CAN support multitouch
Maybe it's just the crappy implementation of capacitive that HTC has done. The Iphone screen does not seem to suffer from all the issues the HD2 has:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=595655
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=604831
The stylus for capacitive screens is a joke. Come on, do they have to be that fat and ugly? Is there really no way to have a small, pointy, conductive stylus?
Are capacitive screen really a requirement for WM7?
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The stylus for capacitive screens is a joke. Come on, do they have to be that fat and ugly? Is there really no way to have a small, pointy, conductive stylus?
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Learn before you preach.
johncmolyneux said:
Get ready to be flamed for your attitude. Coming onto a forum for fans of a device and calling it an "absolute piece of junk" is a pretty good way to not make friends!
Anyway, I finished Crayon Physics the other day, and had no problems doing so with my fingers. I suggest that the hardware isn't the problem here. Everyone else seems to manage fine.
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Hahahahahaha!!! John is right. Better be careful what you post on this forum.
I say put your fingers on a strict diet! Enroll them in a exercise regime until you can use your "piece of junk" effectively.
Well, for me the #1 reason for me to get an HD2 IS the capacitive screen.
I've had many many resistive screen devices (1 old pocketpc, 4 HTC phones, 2 touch-enabled UMPCs), and I'm tired of having to use my nail to press on that screen. It's perfectly fine on old-style UIs that rely on clicks only, but for the "new" flick, scroll, tap, pinch, rotate, capacitive is just the way to go.
Still getting mad when I tap my Kaiser's screen with my finger (not the nail) and it thinks I want to scroll, and goes 2 pages down... only works fine with something sharp, whatever the settings/tweaks.
capacitive is a reason to buy for me: it is what made the HD2 stand out for me. I will never go back to resistive technology.
I must say though that in my opinion the iPhone display is of a superior quality, not in terms of pixel count, but certainly in terms of its accuracy, sensitivity and reliability. it is simply a lot easier to tap out words on the iPhone than on the HD2. It also responds better to cold (if I go out in the winter breeze I sometimes find my HD2 starts pressing keys and moving the screen about of its own accord).
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I should have been more specific: The junk I'm referring to is the screen and NOT the device. Like I said, I like the device but IMHO all the 'advantages' of capacitive don't make up for its downsides.
Just to address some of the comments:
Resistive screens CAN be touch operated without a stylus
They do NOT break down all the time
AFAIK they CAN support multitouch
Maybe it's just the crappy implementation of capacitive that HTC has done. The Iphone screen does not seem to suffer from all the issues the HD2 has:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=595655
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=604831
The stylus for capacitive screens is a joke. Come on, do they have to be that fat and ugly? Is there really no way to have a small, pointy, conductive stylus?
Are capacitive screen really a requirement for WM7?
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try walkin down the street while tryin to send an sms using the stylus on a resistive screen...u'll be sooo glad ur hd2 is capacitive...
kruithofm said:
The advantige of capacitive touch screens:
Glass can be used. Less vulnerable.
multi touch can be implemented.
more touch sensetive.
The advantige of resistive touch screens:
more accurate without software.
simple styles can be used.
cheap.
greatings,
marc
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Hi
Anyone else having problems with the touchscreen taking maybe 5 presses for you to be able to select for example a menu option? This is really starting to bug me now. So much so I'm thinking of sending it back to t-mobile and cancelling the contract.
Any help/suggestions would be appreciated.
Cheers
Andy
Try an Calibration in the settings menu.
There isn't a screen calibration setting on this handset. I wasn't aware we had to do this on these capacitive screens.
My X10 doesn't work like that at all. How hard do you press? Does it work in one press if you press harder?
Press harder on as capacitive display?
You'll have to place your second hand on the metal frame and it'll work perfect.
Dry hands are also not good.
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Press harder on as capacitive display?
You'll have to place your second hand on the metal frame and it'll work perfect.
Dry hands are also not good.
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Yeah. If you press harder a larger area of your finger touches the display. I.E. more for the digitizer to sense.
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Dry hands are also not good.
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I'm definitely noticing this. I'm not exactly the type of guy to regularly moisturize my hands. I work in construction, and this capacitive screen absolutely sucks for me. I've been using resistive screens beautifully up to this point. I find I often have to lick my thumb regularly to get the screen to work properly. I have a ton of trouble unlocking the phone, since the screen thinks I've lifted my thumb halfway through the pattern. Using swype is a nightmare for this reason as well.
There are resistive multitouch screens on laptops and desktops now. I hope we see a swing back to resistive screens on smartphones.
I'm experiencing this problem aswell an i'm pretty much sure this is all software related, you can actually see the interface reacting to the press but it seems like the device never executes the action forcing you to press multiple times, annoying as hell yes! I sincerely hope SE fixes this in the next update.
Has anyone had any problems with accuracy? In some apps the touch registers like 5mm below where I actually touch.
I think the stock screen protector hinders the touch sensitivity quite a bit. Try getting a thinner screen protector. There is a thread talking about how sensitivity and accuracy improved when they took theirs off.
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I think the stock screen protector hinders the touch sensitivity quite a bit. Try getting a thinner screen protector. There is a thread talking about how sensitivity and accuracy improved when they took theirs off.
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Thanks for the tip but I already have an uberthin protector. That brand has worked very well on all other capacitive displays I've had. I'm suspecting a software bug rather than a hardware issue.
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I think the stock screen protector hinders the touch sensitivity quite a bit. Try getting a thinner screen protector. There is a thread talking about how sensitivity and accuracy improved when they took theirs off.
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I jammed my X10 in a sports armband for Ipod touch, it has a very thick plastic window and it did not affect the sensetivity a bit so i dont think the thin stock protector will do any difference. Just my opinion
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Has anyone had any problems with accuracy? In some apps the touch registers like 5mm below where I actually touch.
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I've noticed that on the dialer application.
Sometimes, while I am on Recent Calls section, I press the green telephone next to a contact and it calls the one right below it!
Haven't ever noticed any sort of oddness like that... and I have a thick screen protector on top of the stock one.
Occasionally I'll type a letter wrong, but that seems to have improved with the update from two weeks ago.
I bought the Galaxy S yesterday, retiring my "aging" HTC Touch HD. I've never really used a capacitive touch display, so the sensitivity of the screen is very noticeable and surprising. It is so sensitive, infact, that I don't have to touch the screen for it to register my "touch". I noticed the same thing with a HP touchscreen computer I played with for a few minutes once, so is it normal for capacitive screens, or are some screens just (too) sensitive? Or am I just closer to an electric eel than the average person?
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I bought the Galaxy S yesterday, retiring my "aging" HTC Touch HD. I've never really used a capacitive touch display, so the sensitivity of the screen is very noticeable and surprising. It is so sensitive, infact, that I don't have to touch the screen for it to register my "touch". I noticed the same thing with a HP touchscreen computer I played with for a few minutes once, so is it normal for capacitive screens, or are some screens just (too) sensitive? Or am I just closer to an electric eel than the average person?
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They are very very responsive compared to restitive touchscreens.
Yep, a resistive touchscreen requires that two layers are pressed together, so a definite press is required. Capacitive screens just need to detect an electrostatic field, so touching the screen itself isn't necessarily required.
I went from a touch hd to this too, and hell yeah its sensitive! Got used to it now tho.
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Just bought a new Nexus one to use while I'm overseas (used an EVO 4G back in the states) and one of the first things I noticed was the touch screen seems considerally less sensitive than the one on my EVO. I find myself having to hit the screen multiple times because the first touch didn't register often. This applies to the capacitive buttons on the bottom of the screen as well.
Has anyway used a Nexus One vs. another phone and noticed its screen being slightly less sensitive. I have the SLCD version by the way but I think it uses the same sensor as the AMOLED so I'm not sure that makes a difference.
The N1 has a crap digitizer. It's one of it's weak points sadly.
Hit the capacitive buttons slightly above where you think they are. Works every time...
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The N1 has a crap digitizer. It's one of it's weak points sadly.
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+1 especially its alignment is really inaccurate when using the multi touch function
It is kinda rough. But not too bad. Maybe just a bit worse then my HD2.