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I have a magic (from rogers, so it works on At&t 3g) but I really really wanna get on board with the Nexus.
I am in NJ so TMo says 3g coverage is good, but i am just skeptical.
plus i have a family plan on at&t, wife uses iphone, doubt i could talk her into giving it up...
anyone gonna use the nexus on at&t and go without 3g???
I will be replacing my iphone with the nexus tomorrow when the n1 arrives. Because of how awful 3g is in my area (live in seattle work in redmond) I have been using edge almost exclusively. Funnily enough, my dropped calls have ceased after the 3g=>edge move. Go figure
I plan to keep my iphone handy and see just how painful the n1 is without the ability to attempt 3g if I really want it or need it (maps come to mind and so does pandora though both have been acceptable on edge thus far).
Perhaps I can call ATT and have them remove 3g from my account saving me some money each month.
I'm going to try it out on AT&T to see if/(how much) I miss 3g. If I can't get along without it, I'll just switch to T-Mobile. I live in Dallas so both AT&T and T-Mobile have full coverage.
For me, the people I talk to the most are on ATT and it would cost me more to continue my phone habits on a different provider than to just stick with ATT. Moving back to T-Mobile is not an option at this point. I really do wish I had kept my G1 when I made that move
yeah, i was thinking the same thing, just try my non-3g life out and go from there.....at least i'm not alone!
like you said, i have a family / friends all on att, so i might cost more if i were on tmo now...
thakns for input, good luck to us!
I have a g1 & mytouch on at&t just unlocked it. i dont mind having 2G only cuz my battery life is increased and when i get home i have wifi so i just attach to it to get better speeds.. i plan on getting the nexus one when i have the money for it. i didnt know the rogers phones are at&T compatible. anyone wanna sell or trade devices? PM ME
thanks
I hated having my iPhone on Tmobile, no 3G kinda killed the use of an iPhone, the call quality wasn't that great, and though it was handy, it was a bit annoying knowing that I had no 3G. I sold it for $370, used that money to buy a N1 :]
I have an xperia X1a.... and am probably going to buy a nexus.. I"m tired of people w/ cheap, crappy phones having way better internet speed than me.
BUT.. I will make sure that X10 really isn't tmo 3g compatible.
WHy won't the n1 get 3G- any idea when they might change that?
well, the n1 doesn't have the 850 mhz frequency that att runs there 3g on.
the n1 is coming to verizon in the spring and will have 3g......i honestly don't think n1 will ever get to att, especially since google is obviously battling with iphone.....
i really would love the n1, but i honestly don't know i could give up my magic with 3g on ATT......i was just downloading at 1600 kb/sec....pretty damn fast.
the 2g speed is only like 180 kb/sec.
dsarch21 said:
well, the n1 doesn't have the 850 mhz frequency that att runs there 3g on.
the n1 is coming to verizon in the spring and will have 3g......i honestly don't think n1 will ever get to att, especially since google is obviously battling with iphone.....
i really would love the n1, but i honestly don't know i could give up my magic with 3g on ATT......i was just downloading at 1600 kb/sec....pretty damn fast.
the 2g speed is only like 180 kb/sec.
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I was just downloading at over 4100kbps on T-mobile.
I just ordered my Nexus One Superphone. Im planning on selling my HTC Magic unlocked A6161 32A with Hero Sense UI.
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I was just downloading at over 4100kbps on T-mobile.
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wow! really?? OK....well, my decision is pretty easy then....bye bye ATT......
hello N1!
No AT&T 3G means no Nexus One for me. So my only hope now is that HTC releases their own branded version with Sense (which I would have wanted anyway) shortly after the hype blows over.
If the Acer A1 hits in the meantime, I'm going to get that I guess. No way in hell I'm switching to T-Mobile for any reason. They have zero coverage where I live and no roaming agreements with AT&T (I live in a Chicago suburb). But in areas where they do work, friends aren't getting 3G and 1/2 the time they aren't even getting EDGE!
Besides, I was only getting the AT&T version of the Nexus One to hold me over until Windows Mobile 7 drops. I have no problem waiting until Windows Mobile 7 and skipping Android altogether.
Personally, I think they screwed up. They gained very little from have Verizon offer it. Verizon customers who want a high end Android device *JUST* bought the Droid and will be getting Android 2.1 soon. If they made an AT&T compatible version, they'd have more potential for sales since AT&T has NO android devices so far and Canadian carriers can also take advantage.
For those on T-Mobile, looks like a good phone...
-Mc
dsarch21 said:
wow! really?? OK....well, my decision is pretty easy then....bye bye ATT......
hello N1!
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T-mo flipped the switch on their 7.2mbps 3G today. I'm sure it was planned to coincide with the N1 release, lol... anyway, T-mo is now the fastest GSM 3G in the U.S., right?
Edit: Just came across this article: http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/05/atandt-kicks-it-into-overdrive-rolls-out-7-2mbps-everywhere-bu/
Seems that AT&T now has a fire under its ass to follow suit. They too are speeding up their upgrade to 7.2mbps, but they won't have the backbone up to speed for a while apparently.
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Besides, I was only getting the AT&T version of the Nexus One to hold me over until Windows Mobile 7 drops. I have no problem waiting until Windows Mobile 7 and skipping Android altogether.
Personally, I think they screwed up. They gained very little from have Verizon offer it. Verizon customers who want a high end Android device *JUST* bought the Droid and will be getting Android 2.1 soon. If they made an AT&T compatible version, they'd have more potential for sales since AT&T has NO android devices so far and Canadian carriers can also take advantage.
For those on T-Mobile, looks like a good phone...
-Mc
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Winmo over Android? Really!?! For Microsoft's sake I hope you're right, but I think it's highly unlikely that WM7 will be enough to make Windows a plausible mobile platform. I've been in the wireless industry for a few years and Windows Mobile has, for just as long, been a last resort for anyone but the most diehard Windows fanatic(you?).
I do however agree that it's a win for those of us on T-Mobile. That make's five Android devices to choose from! And for the record I'll be picking up a Nexus One as soon as they start offering it with the employee discount!
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No AT&T 3G means no Nexus One for me. So my only hope now is that HTC releases their own branded version with Sense (which I would have wanted anyway) shortly after the hype blows over.
If the Acer A1 hits in the meantime, I'm going to get that I guess. No way in hell I'm switching to T-Mobile for any reason. They have zero coverage where I live and no roaming agreements with AT&T (I live in a Chicago suburb). But in areas where they do work, friends aren't getting 3G and 1/2 the time they aren't even getting EDGE!
Besides, I was only getting the AT&T version of the Nexus One to hold me over until Windows Mobile 7 drops. I have no problem waiting until Windows Mobile 7 and skipping Android altogether.
Personally, I think they screwed up. They gained very little from have Verizon offer it. Verizon customers who want a high end Android device *JUST* bought the Droid and will be getting Android 2.1 soon. If they made an AT&T compatible version, they'd have more potential for sales since AT&T has NO android devices so far and Canadian carriers can also take advantage.
For those on T-Mobile, looks like a good phone...
-Mc
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Seriously man... blame AT&T and Apple for their internal agreements. It's because of the iPhone that AT&T isn't allowed to bring in any products that would cannibalize sales of the iPhone. Once exclusivity expires... Android devices will storm AT&T as well.
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Seriously man... blame AT&T and Apple for their internal agreements. It's because of the iPhone that AT&T isn't allowed to bring in any products that would cannibalize sales of the iPhone. Once exclusivity expires... Android devices will storm AT&T as well.
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http://gizmodo.com/5441632/atts-first-android-phones-five-from-motorola-dell-and-htc
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http://gizmodo.com/5441632/atts-first-android-phones-five-from-motorola-dell-and-htc
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It feels good to be right.
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It feels good to be right.
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i have a unlocked hd2 using AT&T i know they say it wont get 3g unless i bought the australian version but every once a and a while it will get 3g for 20 sec to a minute or so am i the only one experiencing this
That sucks, I was hoping to be able to move this to AT&T eventually. There's no point if there's no 3G though.
AT&T and T-Mobile uses different 3G bands. There is no way you will ever get AT&T 3G on a T-Mobile 3G phone.
to get a hd2 that can get at&ts 3g you have to buy hd2 t9193 thats an australian phone
OHHH NOOO!
CRAP! This is what I get for not doing my research properly. I have been absolutely HATING T-Mobiles network, I can go anywhere with my Tilt 2 and HD2 and the Tilt 2 ALWAYS has better reception and better G connections. T-Mobile is rolling out this new "Ultra G" but even if the speed hype is true, I seriously doubt that the COVERAGE will improve. And their coverage SUCKS! Ahh, but I love the HD2... Plan was, as others said, to move back to AT&T eventually, using this phone. NOW what do I do. Find an Aussie that wants to Trade?
no one will want to trade i recommend you sell yours craigslist or how ever then jump to eBay buy one from Australia cause if you bid on one of those t9193's that are here in the us expect to pay close to 800 if you buy from Australia you'll spend a little under 700
memphis550 said:
i have a unlocked hd2 using AT&T i know they say it wont get 3g unless i bought the australian version but every once a and a while it will get 3g for 20 sec to a minute or so am i the only one experiencing this
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I too have noticed this. Especially on the northern side of the DC area. I've driven through and each time I get the 3G symbol for a little bit and then it drops out. So you're not crazy or anything else. I'm glad you shared this because I was wondering also.
makes me think that some type for software would enable AT&Ts 3g on the US hd2
I wonder also if they have the 850 mghz one in their supply chain and don't know it or don't care and have released them. I'm heading back the same way again this week, so I'll keep my eyes on my phone. I wish there was a way to tell what chip it is and what bands it will pick up.
They couldn't "just release" or enable cross-band functionality like that without clearing with the FCC first, and that hasn't happened. When the HD2 first received it's license it was certified to exclusively work on the bands specified, and AT&T's were not among those. And, even if you were able to "hack" it to work, you'd likely be violating the law.
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They couldn't "just release" or enable cross-band functionality like that without clearing with the FCC first, and that hasn't happened. When the HD2 first received it's license it was certified to exclusively work on the bands specified, and AT&T's were not among those. And, even if you were able to "hack" it to work, you'd likely be violating the law.
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and apple say jailbreaking there devices is violating the law too right. thats never stopped people from using there talent before
memphis550 said:
and apple say jailbreaking there devices is violating the law too right. thats never stopped people from using there talent before
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I guess but it's not really an apples-to-apples comparison because you don't have to defy the laws of physics to jailbreak an iphone...but you would have to do just that to get the HD2 to work on AT&T's 3G bands.
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I guess but it's not really an apples-to-apples comparison because you don't have to defy the laws of physics to jailbreak an iphone...but you would have to do just that to get the HD2 to work on AT&T's 3G bands.
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well if you remember the first iphone jailbreak hats off to GEOHOT was a hardware and software jailbreak. i my search how to make my hd2 get 3g on AT&T i want to know what do you think if i'm to buy a 3g antenna from htc.au and replace that with my 3g antenna what do you think
I know I know, "CDMA is not for international use" etc, etc. I am aware.
Still, although it isnt probable - it is not necessarily imposible! And thats what I am banking on
Long story short, I need to travel soon and I dropped my xoom the morning I was going to return it (no need to remind how stupid that was, i havent forgotten yet...) Anyway everything is fine with the tablet except the aluminum body got two minor marks on the edge. Now best buy wont accept it back.
I love everything about the tablet except that I wont be able to get mobile data overseas. The country I am going to has CDMA networks but how can i get verizon to release me from their clutches? I didnt register a data plan with Vz but as i understand I am still at their disposal in terms of wireless service. Anyone have any experience getting any CDMA device unlocked (particularly with Vz)? Can you point me in any direction?
I am willing to do it "legally" through them (if they will even allow it), or through a hack, or any other method. Just let me know whats possible.
I wasnt sure about my travel plans and my Grandmother had been asking to get me gift - end result is I have a perfectly good Xoom I cant return and cant use overseas.
(Just for the record I HATE THE IDEA OF BUYING A DEVICE LOCKED TO A PARTICULAR COMPANY. I never bought a CDMA device for this reason, first time I did and it bit me in the @$$ immediately)
It isn't that it's locked to a company, it's to a technology. Europe uses a different standard. It's like trying to plug a US power socket into a European power socket, it ain't gonna happen! There aren't any "converters" for this. You would be better off getting a mobile hotspot once you're there and connecting via WiFi.
If it was with at&t or tmobile it would be a different story, though I'm not sure the data would work on 3g, it would be 1g (I think).
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It isn't that it's locked to a company, it's to a technology. Europe uses a different standard. It's like trying to plug a US power socket into a European power socket, it ain't gonna happen! There aren't any "converters" for this. You would be better off getting a mobile hotspot once you're there and connecting via WiFi.
If it was with at&t or tmobile it would be a different story, though I'm not sure the data would work on 3g, it would be 1g (I think).
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Thats true, i didnt think about a mobile hotspot. Although I had remembered that I can tether to my cell phone (then I entirely forgot again in the frustration of not being able to return the Xoom )
Anyway I am aware that GSM and CDMA are different standards, but the country I am going to has at least two CDMA carriers that I am aware of. Admittedly I dont know much about CDMA networks but I know my friend had a phone from Sprint that he was able to use overseas after they permitted it.
I still got my fingers crossed...
Phones typically have an unlock code that enables you to use them on other networks. It works for att and tmobile since you don't have to activate the device (just swap sim cards) but getting Verizon to activate a sprint device is nearly impossible.
That said, I don't even know if the Xoom is completely locked to Verizon in the same way. The issue will be provisioning the device for another network with cdma. Either way it's probably not worth the effort.
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The radio is a plug and play Module, if you get your hands on the right one and flash the right ROM, could work, but first thing first .. wait for the release
Daxten said:
The radio is a plug and play Module, if you get your hands on the right one and flash the right ROM, could work, but first thing first .. wait for the release
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Sorry for being such a layman and a noob but what exactly are you referring to the release of?
I feel kind of bad having to do all this ranting and not knowing entirely what I am talking about, so I hope you'll excuse me.
Technology, you can use xoom and connect cdma EvDO network outsea.
You need change ESN、IMSI、AKEY、SID、NID to register xoom on the other CDMA network and make phone call. You also need change AN、AAA to using EvDO service then you can get 3G network link。
The most difficult thing you need to do is getting the AKEY and AAA，which is controled by service provider that you want to connect.
To write ESN、IMSI、AKEY、SID、NID、AN、AAA， you also need some CDMA crack tools，such as CDMA Workshop、QXDM、QMAT etc.
when you google for "AKEY AAA"， you will get more technical detail.
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Phones typically have an unlock code that enables you to use them on other networks. It works for att and tmobile since you don't have to activate the device (just swap sim cards) but getting Verizon to activate a sprint device is nearly impossible.
That said, I don't even know if the Xoom is completely locked to Verizon in the same way. The issue will be provisioning the device for another network with cdma. Either way it's probably not worth the effort.
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That’s all correct.
I had the same experience with a CDMA device in Germany. That is another reason that I am waiting for the GMS version of the xoom.
Okay, so I have a question for the XDA community. The reason I'm posting this here is that it somewhat involves the MT4G. Anyway, I've been only having EDGE speeds in my area ever since I got my phone. Before I got it, the coverage map told me I'd get 3G. It's been really bugging me lately because of how slow my mobile internet is.
Lately, I've been wanting to purchase a new phone (specifically, the G2x) and since it supports AT&T's 3G bands, I had an idea. Would it be possible to use the fact that I have slow speeds, contradicting the coverage map, and the fact the T-Mo MIGHT become a part of AT&T (wanting to be future-proof with t he G2x) as leverage to possibly get an early upgrade, or at least lower pricing for the G2x? Keep in mind, I've only been a customer since December 2010, so this might not work.
Any thoughts?
PS Don't flame on me for asking this question; it's an innocent question that I just want to know the answer to.
Since you are out of your 14 day trial period. Doubtful.
neidlinger said:
Since you are out of your 14 day trial period. Doubtful.
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the only way would be to go through customer care. the reps in the store wont be able to do much, ( i am one of those reps btw.) I really dont think they would let you upgrade. I actually rather the mytouch 4g over the g2x. Just wait it out and see what the sensation is like.
I'm pretty dissatisfied with how far locked down the flagship phones are on Verizon, as well as not being quite as impressed as I thought I would be with their coverage. After looking over my data usage the last few months, I think I might have something to gain by switching to Project Fi. I don't expect the Nexus 6P to be the same powerful device I might have if I were to stick to the Galaxy line (which I'd been with since the Galaxy S), but I think it'll get done what I want to get done and be happy with it. Plus, I'll finally be able to root again. Real root. New roms and stuff. wooooooo
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I'm pretty dissatisfied with how far locked down the flagship phones are on Verizon, as well as not being quite as impressed as I thought I would be with their coverage. After looking over my data usage the last few months, I think I might have something to gain by switching to Project Fi. I don't expect the Nexus 6P to be the same powerful device I might have if I were to stick to the Galaxy line (which I'd been with since the Galaxy S), but I think it'll get done what I want to get done and be happy with it. Plus, I'll finally be able to root again. Real root. New roms and stuff. wooooooo
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You may have jumped ship a little to soon. There's a Yemen team who have, or about to have, achieved root on the Verizon Note 4. There's mention of a release sometime around March 15 or so. Not to sure about the boot loader, but it looks like we may be able to at least root our phones pretty soon.
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You may have jumped ship a little to soon. There's a Yemen team who have, or about to have, achieved root on the Verizon Note 4. There's mention of a release sometime around March 15 or so. Not to sure about the boot loader, but it looks like we may be able to at least root our phones pretty soon.
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I'm just kinda done at this point. Too many false claims for root and Verizon/Samsung may have permanently lost business due to how locked down the device is. Damage done. Moving on...
I browsed the Project Fi page to see what it was all about again. I'm a little impressed, but also disappointed. It piggy backs off Sprint and T-mobile. And where I'm at, Sprint sucks and T-Mobile is non-existent. According to the coverage map for Fi, LTE coverage is very limited to say the least, most areas of the country are 3g or 2g. For the most part this isn't a problem, I'm mostly on Wi-Fi at home or work. I would just have some concerns over those times I'm not at home and don't have access to a Wi-Fi network. I think I'm better off paying for the Verizon network and just ditching this locked down phone when I get a chance for a Nexus.
Calling Verizon later today to pay off the balance on my Note 4 and completely cancel service. So far, I'm seeing better coverage away from home with Fi. Also, add the fact that I have an unlocked bootloader, root, etc... I'm pretty happy so far.