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Im sure this is a fairly basic question for you guys buy here Go’s!
I have recently become the proud owner of an XDA IIs , Question is I have set up my GPRS settings as per instructions from O2, So web browsing, text and MMS all seems to be fine, However is it also possible to access my POP3 account via GPRS / LAN ??
Account in question is an easilymail account server address “customermail.easily.co.uk “ seems to work if I swap back to dial up and access via wanadoo / yahoo dial up
(O2 access is PAYG online 300)
Any thoughts / help much appreciated
You can't access a pop account via GPRS, you have to access it through O2's Mobile web service. You should have the settings in your IIs
it depend on the network you use i can recieve my mails from my normal internet pop3 mail box but i cant send them over SMTP
which i asume is because my cellphone network block the ports of SMTP but not pop3
O2 UK have 2 different types of GPRS access WAP & Mobile WEB.
Normally you would use the O2 Mobile Web GPRS settings to get full internet access. Unfortunatly this is not available to O2 PAYG customers only contract/post pay customers. As a PAYG customer you can only use the WAP GPRS.
Its something i have had a row with them recently. I always knew it was not available but on the online info for the PAYG it clearly stated that the free 1MB GPRS was for WAP & WEB access. But after complaining and even telling them if it is true then they are false advertising and i would be complaining to trading standards they confirmed its not available.
They have even now restricted Dialup GSM WAP access to WAP only. That used to provide full internet access although at the slower speed of 9600. My contract sim gives me 500 free GSM WAP minutes and the online PAYG cards my wife and daughter use give 300 GSM WAP Minutes with the £10 topup. So i made quite a lot of use of it originally.
If you don't mind the extra hassle there are some wap email sites that will grab and display your pop email for you.
wsp://mail2web.com/pda/
That is actually PDA formatted instead of wap formatted. You can also access it from PC but just change the wsp:// to http://
Hope this helps
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Probably teaching granny to suck eggs here but just in case you don't know, the SMTP server for O2 uk is smtp.o2.co.uk
using this with your incoming email server should allow you to send as well as receive when using UK O2 mobile web tariff. This obviously won't work via WiFi but U should still be able to receive.
Which networks have their GPRS unrestricted? I'm currently on o2 and want to get my e-mail (Home e-mail server) on the move but o2 only allow you to access your o2 email address items. I moved from Virgin due to my parents complaining they could never get hold of me. I'm thinking of Orange because they have a similar choice to o2 of free texts when you top up, but am wondering is their GPRS unrestricted? Could I access my email on it?
Thanks,
Karl
You will need to use the Orange server for your outgoing email but you can download from any mail server - I know because that's what I do.
Thanks for your input TB. Am I right in thinking Orange's GPRS charge is £3/MB? I believe o2 is £2.35, but they do not allow access to other email servers except their own? Or am I wrong there and have been mislead by the internet?
I did have a tarriff of £1 per MB but I have switched to unlimited evening/weekend data for £5 per month.
The mail server thing at O2 seems to be a real pain. It's reasonable for them to expect you to use their outgoing server but on an unfettered internet connection, just about ANY incoming mail server should be fine, as is the case with Orange.
I bought a sim-free htc touch hd a few weeks ago, bought an o2 pay&go sim, added the unlimited web blot-on, and thought everything would be just fine. But I was wrong.
It worked fine on the small number of occasions I used it before yesterday.
Since I added the web bolt-on, the automatic connection settings no longer work and I get the following message every time I try to set up the data connection:
Dialed:
Cannot connect for an unknown reason. To check your connection settings and change them if needed, tap Settings. If the problem continues, reset your mobile device according to your manufacturer's documentation and try again.
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Other than trying the automatic connection setup feature a few times, I've also tried manual settings. Currently my settings are as follows:
Modem selected: Cellular Line (GPRS, 3G)
Access point name: mobile.o2.co.uk
User name: O2web
Password: some 16 digit long network automatic password
Domain: no value entered
Advanced settings:
TCP/IP: Use server-assigned IP address
Servers: Use server-assigned addresses
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I've tried using a different username and password, same the ones listed on most setup guides.
I've tried entering a manual DNS, and Alt DNS server address under advanced settings.
I've tried setting up the connection from scratch.
And I've tried doing a soft reset followed by restoring it to factory settings.
Currently I am using ROM version 1.14.4005.3, and have nothing else installed on the device. I do not currently have access to anything other than a mac, so cannot use any windows-related troubleshooting devices.
Absolutely anything you could suggest would be great. Rang o2, but they were unhelpful. Thanks chaps.
iamelegy said:
I bought a sim-free htc touch hd a few weeks ago, bought an o2 pay&go sim, added the unlimited web blot-on, and thought everything would be just fine. But I was wrong.
It worked fine on the small number of occasions I used it before yesterday.
Since I added the web bolt-on, the automatic connection settings no longer work and I get the following message every time I try to set up the data connection:
Other than trying the automatic connection setup feature a few times, I've also tried manual settings. Currently my settings are as follows:
I've tried using a different username and password, same the ones listed on most setup guides.
I've tried entering a manual DNS, and Alt DNS server address under advanced settings.
I've tried setting up the connection from scratch.
And I've tried doing a soft reset followed by restoring it to factory settings.
Currently I am using ROM version 1.14.4005.3, and have nothing else installed on the device. I do not currently have access to anything other than a mac, so cannot use any windows-related troubleshooting devices.
Absolutely anything you could suggest would be great. Rang o2, but they were unhelpful. Thanks chaps.
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Those are the O2 contract settings. PAYG settings are different and one will not work with the others' settings. You'll have to scoure the O2 website to find the manual settings for PAYG (or PAG as O2 calls it).
A word of warning, however, after just coming off P&G and onto contract, and thus knowing the limitations of both, your mobile web with P&G will be severely crippled.
Unless O2 have changed their settings on the server side, the only web program that will work will be Opera. Email client and youtube won't work as P&G is limited to port 8080 (HTML) only...
This is something that really annoyed me when I was with P&G because I couldn't use my mobile's email client because it just could not connect.
sorry, rant/warning over! Summary: you need P&G specific settings, you can find them (eventually) on the O2 website - keep trying makes and models until you find one that gives you the manual settings (I can't give more help than this as I had to do the exact same thing myself!). HTC auto-connect wizard only has contract settings in it. Also be warned that potentially only Opera will work once you get the settings!
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Those are the O2 contract settings. PAYG settings are different and one will not work with the others' settings. You'll have to scoure the O2 website to find the manual settings for PAYG (or PAG as O2 calls it).
A word of warning, however, after just coming off P&G and onto contract, and thus knowing the limitations of both, your mobile web with P&G will be severely crippled.
Unless O2 have changed their settings on the server side, the only web program that will work will be Opera. Email client and youtube won't work as P&G is limited to port 8080 (HTML) only...
This is something that really annoyed me when I was with P&G because I couldn't use my mobile's email client because it just could not connect.
sorry, rant/warning over! Summary: you need P&G specific settings, you can find them (eventually) on the O2 website - keep trying makes and models until you find one that gives you the manual settings (I can't give more help than this as I had to do the exact same thing myself!). HTC auto-connect wizard only has contract settings in it. Also be warned that potentially only Opera will work once you get the settings!
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Thank you so much. I may love you. In a non-gay way. Anywho, I've found out how to do it. It's extremely simple now that you've pointed me toward the problem.
Go to Settings > Connections > Manage existing connections
Then under the 'Modem' tab, edit your connection.
All you have to do is change the access point name from 'mobileweb.o2.co.uk' to 'payango.o2.co.uk'.
Very simple.
And thanks for the warning about the limitations. I might take that up with them, since it is not mentioned when purchasing the web upgrade or sim. I'll test it out first though.
iamelegy said:
Thank you so much. I may love you. In a non-gay way. Anywho, I've found out how to do it. It's extremely simple now that you've pointed me toward the problem.
Go to Settings > Connections > Manage existing connections
Then under the 'Modem' tab, edit your connection.
All you have to do is change the access point name from 'mobileweb.o2.co.uk' to 'payango.o2.co.uk'.
Very simple.
And thanks for the warning about the limitations. I might take that up with them, since it is not mentioned when purchasing the web upgrade or sim. I'll test it out first though.
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It's a general thing with PAYG really, telcos want you to have contracts - make more money from you that way! all PAYG SIMs go through proxies for mobile web connections, and almost all the PAYG proxies are limited to 8080 only.
Then again, it sounds like you didn't use the proxy settings so we'll see what happens w.r.t non html usage!
When you get a chance, could you please have a play with trying to use Gmail on IMAP and/or the YouTube and/or weather panel and report back whether it works or gets timed out? I'd really like to see how you get on!
As I already have many phone contracts in the family (that I'm paying for ), I got one of those o2 simplicity 30 day rolling contract things, the cheapest one for £10, then added £7.50 web bolt on, that lets you do whatever you like (you tube, mail etc all works fine), I thinks its also 150mins and 300txts.
Tmob do one as well that I think £20 for more mins, Unlimited txts and free web (special offer at the moment). It is a better deal than the o2 for only £2.50 more, but I have better o2 reception where I am, and also they use the Edge network.
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When you get a chance, could you please have a play with trying to use Gmail on IMAP and/or the YouTube and/or weather panel and report back whether it works or gets timed out? I'd really like to see how you get on!
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OK, I've played about with these a bit, and they seem to be working fine. Weather works perfectly, as does my Gmail account on IMAP.
The youtube application is extremely slow, but I'm assuming that is more general, than a specific PAYG problem.
As I already have many phone contracts in the family (that I'm paying for ), I got one of those o2 simplicity 30 day rolling contract things, the cheapest one for £10, then added £7.50 web bolt on, that lets you do whatever you like (you tube, mail etc all works fine), I thinks its also 150mins and 300txts.
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I've got their 'Your Country' SIM pack, which is purely top-up, but they deduct the 7.50 form my credit each month. It's great for me, since you get free minutes for calls to overseas whenever you top-up - damn useful for an Irishman.
Can't afford 20 pound every single month unfortunately. Student life (ignoring the fact that I managed to get a HD).
Thanks again chaps.
Hello.
I have a HTC Touch (Elfin) and have recently gave up my option for 10MB Mobile Internet for a Vodafon Live option with 500MB included.
I realised then that the Vodafone Live connection implies using a http/wap proxy wich will only allow internet acces for the web browser (Internet Explorer as well as Opera or Opera Mini work fine) but not for other applications like Instant Messenger Clients, Games or other similar.
I would like to know first of all if there is a way of tricking that proxy connection so I can be able to use other applications with online functionality.
Secondly, if that is not possible (as I suspect) I would like to ask if there are other applications (besides internet browsers) that could youse a http connection for their purpose. Most important would be an Instant Messaging one with Yahoo protocol support.
Thank you for your help.
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In case it matters, this aplies to Vodafone Romania.
For Vodafine Live, the apn is live.vodafone.com (user live, pass vodafone) and the proxy are only defined for http (with 8080 port) and wap (with 9201 port). Secure wap and socks proxy are undefined so probably cannot be used/
Same problem here. Help would be very apreciated to make aplications like outlook , messenger or VNC client to work with http proxy conection.
@glumetzu : incearca shmessenger , e facut de romani si merge pe Java
i have same issue, but there is a workaround kinda...
i came back to romania now to visit family and i got a sim card, number and prepaid data service with vodafone.
my apn is live.pre.vodafone.com, but uses the same user/pass and proxy settings and suggested above.
i noticed that once i connected with microsoft rdp, it wouldnt work. nor would my internet video security cameras from home, which all use different ports.
now here is the strange bit. using another apn without a proxy worked fine on the phone itself. i forget which one it was, and will not test now to find out. it was either live.vodafone.ro or live.vodafome.com but without using the proxy settings. it worked for me no problem. the problem was once i connected to the laptop to use the usb internet sharing. i took the money from the voice phone balance and after a few hours i was disconnected. both data and calls couldnt be made since the balance was -1.19 euro lol
anyways, point is there is an apn settings that seems to work on the phone only without limits in regards to ports or proxies. this worked fine without killing my account balance. it was only once i connected with the laptop that it killed it.
i'm currently researching on how the network gateways are able to detect this.
however using the proxy server with the apn live.pre.vodafone.com i am able to use my full 250mb package from the laptop without affecting the voice package account balance, not sure how or why this works but i have confirmed this in real-time while at a vodafone store in cluj. the sales lady had access to monitor voice and data usage for my account and we tested using the apn and proxy with the laptop. it didnt affect the voice plan money.
so for a quick answer, you can use a laptop and tether the connection. but be careful and double check ur balance after u download a test file using the laptop, just to make sure it wont kill ur account balance.
also, it works now. but for how long? more research is needed and maybe i need to play around with programs like ztunnel or an http proxy app that can tunnel ALL active connections from port to port and vpn through my home network. that would make it more secure and less likely to be picked up by the isp since they would only see port 80 activity going to one place all the time....
Hi all, With thanks to the folks on this site, I was able earlier to patch my Galaxy S2's nv_data.bin to SIM unlock it, allowing me to use a T-Mobile USA SIM card in my (previously locked) T-Mobile UK phone. UK customer services wanted 28 days and £15 to do it which considering I'll be back in the UK by then is useless.
Speaking of useless, T-Mobile US Technical Support share this quality with their UK counterparts. I phoned to ask them what I considered a relatively simple question and the lady was no help at all. Can anyone tell me the correct SMTP server setting for T-Mobile USA so I can send Emails from my S2? I've spent 45 minutes with Google and my normally good search skills have come up wanting here. Many thanks in advance for any help.
PS. I tried using "myemail.t-mobile.com" without success
KingsGambit said:
Hi all, With thanks to the folks on this site, I was able earlier to patch my Galaxy S2's nv_data.bin to SIM unlock it, allowing me to use a T-Mobile USA SIM card in my (previously locked) T-Mobile UK phone. UK customer services wanted 28 days and £15 to do it which considering I'll be back in the UK by then is useless.
Speaking of useless, T-Mobile US Technical Support share this quality with their UK counterparts. I phoned to ask them what I considered a relatively simple question and the lady was no help at all. Can anyone tell me the correct SMTP server setting for T-Mobile USA so I can send Emails from my S2? I've spent 45 minutes with Google and my normally good search skills have come up wanting here. Many thanks in advance for any help.
PS. I tried using "myemail.t-mobile.com" without success
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I've searched and came up with the same server info... are you able to recieve properly but not send? It could the port... unsecured outgoing smtp servers use port 25.... If it's just sending you have issues with, try using smtp.comcast.net over port 25, with no authentication just to be able to send while you're here...
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I've searched and came up with the same server info... are you able to recieve properly but not send? It could the port... unsecured outgoing smtp servers use port 25.... If it's just sending you have issues with, try using smtp.comcast.net over port 25, with no authentication just to be able to send while you're here...
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Hiya, I tried the server you suggested but sadly without luck. In the UK, I use "smtp.t-email.co.uk" while on the T-Mobile network and it works fine. I have a POP3 Email account set up that downloads mails from my ISP, but sends via T-Mobile. Receiving is working fine, I just can't send.
Interestingly, I've had no trouble quickly finding SMTP servers for AT&T, Sprint and Verizon in the first page of Google's search results!
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Hiya, I tried the server you suggested but sadly without luck. In the UK, I use "smtp.t-email.co.uk" while on the T-Mobile network and it works fine. I have a POP3 Email account set up that downloads mails from my ISP, but sends via T-Mobile. Receiving is working fine, I just can't send.
Interestingly, I've had no trouble quickly finding SMTP servers for AT&T, Sprint and Verizon in the first page of Google's search results!
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It wouldn't even allow me to change my Comcast account to unsecured over port 25, I think android knows port 25 is known to be unsecure... the comcast servers are still open over 25... I can't seem to find much on Google either... I did find this though about piggybacking on googles gmail servers with your gmail id:
http://support.google.com/mail/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=1074635
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Outgoing Mail (SMTP) Server - requires TLS3 or SSL: smtp.gmail.com (use authentication)
Use Authentication: Yes
Port for TLS/STARTTLS: 587
Port for SSL: 465
Account Name: your full email address (including @gmail.com or @your_domain.com)
Email Address: your email address ([email protected] or [email protected]_domain.com)
Password: your Gmail password
so try only changing server, port, and login using you gmail credentials
Wow, thank you for this tip with Gmail. While I'm still surprised that TMobile USA doesn't provide customers with the SMTP server settings (I mean I don't understand how one can send Emails without that information!), using my GMail credentials to authenticate with the SMTP server you suggested works perfectly. I did have to verify my account on the site itself as the big G detected I was logging in from a different country, but after that, works brilliantly.
Thank you so much for this great advice. Might just leave the setting as is even on my return, no real need to change it back. It also now has the added benefit of (presumably) working via Wi-Fi as well as the phone's data connection, where normally I can't send when on my home Wi-Fi