Related
Does anyone have an expected release date for this yet? I may be moving from the UK to the US soon so just wondering what to get and where to get it!
HTC insn't going into full scale production untill autumn.
And it's usefullness in the USA wil be somewhat limited.
It only has Tri band GSM so will be incompatible with some networks, also the 3G radio is a different standard in the USA to the Euro 3G - CDMA V W-CDMA I believe, but I'm sure someone will highlight what the acronym is. Thats why no USA networks have expressed any desire to release the Universal - maybe there will be another model bought out for the USA markets...
There will be a USA release eventually. HTC would be stupid to not make a version of the Universal that worked well in the USA.
There's lots of speculation on various message boards that HTC has already created a USA version of the Universal. Supposedly, it's being called "Apache" while it's still in testing.
There are lots of people in the USA using HTC devices right now. I can't imagine HTC deciding not to accept anymore money from those USA customers.
Pretty much everyone with an HTC device (or any other brand of Pocket PC for that matter) will give the Universal serious consideration when it's released. If HTC just ignored them, well that would not be a sound business decision.
Expect a version of the Universal to be released in the USA for use on the new EVDO networks (Sprint and Verizon).
Now Sprint and Verizon may decide not to carry the device, but I fully expect HTC to at least offer it to them.
do sprint and verizon even offer gsm(sim) cards? i bought my jam from dubai when i was over there for summer vacation and now i'm using it with cingular. and if the device is released in the US it would be a while after its released in the UK and rest of the world. If you haven't noticed USA is really behind in the cell phone market.
USA may be behind in the cell phone market, but all of the previous HTC products were released in the USA, so I don't see why the Universal would be any different.
The Wizard will be released in the USA, so why not the Universal? I could definitely see HTC ,aking a version for the USA. And probably making a CDMA version as well.
It could be
Sorry Guys, But Cellphone Networks in USA sux! Your mobile phone carries got the "older model" planns to sell devices. Europe and Asia is at leats 5 years advanced than USA.
Here in Brazil GSM Networks are since 2002 so we got euro carriers with new terminals, 3G is already here.
HTC is preparing a special edition for you guys
[]s'
pH
What are you talking about? USA networks may be behind, in general, but both Sprint and Verizon have EVDO networks. That is pretty up to date technology.
HTC may very well be preparing a special version, but I highly doubt Brazil is getting anyting more technically advanced than the USA (from HTC at least)...
HTC sent the same Harrier and Blue Angel to the USA that they sent everywhere else. HTC is also sending the same Wizard to the USA that they sent everywhere else. Why should the Universal be any different?
Well, it might be a little different (hopefully it will be made for CDMA/EVDO).
your carriers are well behind the uk and most of the rest of the world-maybe not 5 years though!the universal will be the same as the jam release wise-asia then europe then the us.just a shame your carriers are so slow that they cannot utilise the new technology the universal bringsand what is with using a different frequency (850) is it just to be awkward?!lol.l have no doubts the universal will be available everywhere including the us
First off, I have to say that the Apache is not a CDMA version of the universal. Rather, it is a CDMA version of the wizard.
Second, yes the USA networks are a little behind the rest of the world. It sucks that we have to wait for new devices months after they have been released to the rest of the world. However, that may be changing. Check out the last couple pages of this thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=22813&start=125
It is looking more and more like the new 6700 sprint will be releasing is the Apache. Right now the target release date is sometime from August to October. This would be amazing because it would be (as far as I know) the first 5.0 device released anywhere. It would be released in the US before Europe and Asia, and it would even be release before the wizard was released anywhere.
So maybe the US is catching up. Here's hoping
The USA networks are not lagging behind Europe and Asia. At least not all of them. Again, both Sprint and Verizon have EVDO networks. That is not lagging in any way. EVDO is a 3G technology, and it fully supports all the features on any of todays cell phones (even the Universal). The only thing is the networks are CDMA. But CDMA is not lagging behing the rest of the world either.
Actaully saltydawg, only verizon has EV-DO right now. Sprint won't be lauch there's till the end of the year. We should start seeing EV-DO phones coming out soon though.
As for what I said abou the USA being behind, that was mainly in reference to the delay in getting new phones to the US.
Zach
***Double post removal***
Sprint does have EVDO right now man. Currently the only devices that officially support it are laptop data cards. People have got it working on their PPC-6600's as well though.
But yes, we should start seeing lots more EVDO devices released soon...
You have got to be kidding me if you think US networks do not lag behind European networks. By the time we get something new, Europe is already moved on to the next best thing. We are at least 2-3 if not 5-7 years behind.
SaltyDawg,
That makes more sense. I guess they just aren't really promoting that. It's pretty cool that some of the 6600s have got that to work though. There is supposed to be an official sprint update for the 6600 coming out in october I think.
Zach
We can argue all day about whether or not the US lags behind in mobile network technology. Whan I can say is that when US carriers decide to go with a technology, it does take awhile to rollout.
HOWEVER, let's think about this. All of the countries we're being compared to are approx 10% of the size of the US. Individual European countries and their respective carriers have NO IDEA what a rollout in the US takes in terms of material, resources, and most importantly, money. Even the whole of Europe doesn't compare in size to the Continental USA.
Cut us a break, guys...
GSM Technology in the US
well, you can argue all day about this but i would say that the US is way behind but we've been catching up some how ... the three main countries which keep on using CDMA is the US, Japan& Korea ... so if anybody really wants a really good phone for the verizon and sprint networks just look at what's available in japan ... they actually have 8.0Mp camera phones out ... while everybody's working on catching up here in the US ... Verizon is actually owned by VODAFONE that is why verizon was first in coming out with 3G with the help of their cousins across the pond ... which i am wondering why t-mobile doesn't use their connection being t-mobile ... the largest global wireless company (they have service in most of the countries in the industrialized world ... they even have dibs on singtel which is one of the powerful wireless carriers in asia) ...
t-mobile usa and t-mobile uk don't even work together (as per comment by one of the tech support people from t-mobile usa) ... i was trying to set up blackberry connect on my Sony Ericsson P910i which was from T-Mobile UK but our friends from T-Mobile US told me that they can't assist me ... so i ended up doing it myself ... as usual ....
hopefully the US gets hold of more phones, marketing somewhat sucks y'know ... i guess it's all about the blackberry over here in the US .... which, personally has an ugly interface and worse conventional phones which are almost as expensive as Palm, Pocket PC, and Symbian devices ...
Well the bottom line is not all USA networks a lagging way behind Europe and Asia. At least not anymore. Sprint and Verizon both have EVDO. EVDO is a 3G technology. So no way can anyone say Sprint and Verizon are lagging way behind Europe and Asia.
Now the phones they release on those networks may be a different story. But again, that has nothing to do with HTC. HTC releases the same phones in the USA that they release in Europe and Asia. So anyone saying HTC won't release the Universal in the USA is not looking at the recent history. And anyone saying all USA networks are lagging behind Europe and Asia is not looking at the present. Sprint and Verizon, with their EVDO, specifically.
UMTS in the USA
All I can say is soon, as in September/October UMTS will be deployed in 9 major cities in the US. The carrier in question already has a re-branded BlueAngel for sale. Word from marketing is that shortly after UMTS is deployed they will start carrying one of the re-branded HTC Universal devices .
a cdma version of the shift will be soft released next week with the full rollout in april. sprint will be the exclusive carrier in the usa. it will be sold through var channels only. the gsm version is not expected to have fcc approval until next year for release in the usa
Not "VAR channels only". Amazon is selling it (pre-order at the moment) and HTC states they will sell it direct from their web site.
The issue with the GSM version in the US isn't the FCC...
CDMA
pdagal said:
Not "VAR channels only". Amazon is selling it (pre-order at the moment) and HTC states they will sell it direct from their web site.
The issue with the GSM version in the US isn't the FCC...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thanks for the clarification. Could you be more specific about the issues with the GSM version?
qualcom/broadcom lawsuits
Yep, that's the issue. Because of the suits between those two, new devices with the Qualcomm processor + 3G can't ship in the US .
Price of the HTC CDMA Shift for Sprint is $1500 ?
If the price for the Shift is $1500 I think I'll stay with my HTC mogul. That is insanely overpriced.
isn't that Atlantis then?
and GSM Shift is Shangrila
I really wish they'd release a version compatible with AT&T 3G. What's it going to take for HTC to realize the demand for their state of the art hardware coupled with a "current gen" OS?
secretasianman said:
I really wish they'd release a version compatible with AT&T 3G. What's it going to take for HTC to realize the demand for their state of the art hardware coupled with a "current gen" OS?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
They should release a radio that supports World Frequency for 3G bands like 850/900/1700/2100. The underlying h/w is capable of 3G bands I belive.
thanks
Ram
Its a Vodafone exclusive phone, as in it won't released on any other network. Why would HTC spend money enabling 3G frequencies, and more to the point why would Vodafone let them when they are the one footing the bill for development costs? Don't gripe at HTC, take your anger out on AT&T for not getting the finger out and doing what Tmobile and now Vodafone are doing.
Sometimes I just hate carriers.
shuflie said:
Its a Vodafone exclusive phone, as in it won't released on any other network. Why would HTC spend money enabling 3G frequencies, and more to the point why would Vodafone let them when they are the one footing the bill for development costs? Don't gripe at HTC, take your anger out on AT&T for not getting the finger out and doing what Tmobile and now Vodafone are doing.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
AT&T can't do it due to the exclusivity agreement with Apple they have. See BlackBerry Storm, Samsung Omnia or HTC Touch Diamond all they have missed and they got HTC Touch Pro because they want to lure the AT&T Tilt subscribers to continue. They are not getting Palm Pre also due to this.
Other reason could be Yahoo!. AT&T roots are SBC and it has a deal with Yahoo! for its search. If they get Android, it is going to be all Google, which is contra to their policy.
I may be wrong too.
--Ram--
HTC Magic available for Rogers Wireless June 2nd Canada
Rogers Wireless announced the availability of the Magic and Dream, June 2nd. Rogers supports the 850 band that AT&T uses. Of course these phones will be locked. Rumoured retail price will be $599 each.
Its coming to tmobile in July for 179 muahahah gonna sell my iphone
ITS HERE FOR ATT i will have one thank you
News and Updates
Tuesday, March 16, 2010
Nexus One now compatible with the AT&T 3G network and shipping to Canada
In early January, we announced the Nexus One, the first device sold through Google's web store. The Nexus One is unlocked, which means you can use it with a SIM card from most GSM operators worldwide. Currently the device is compatible with most 3G networks, including T-Mobile in the US. However, there are some carriers that have different 3G frequencies, such as AT&T in the US and Rogers Wireless in Canada, so users with these SIM cards can only access 2G or EDGE networks on their Nexus One.
Starting today, an additional version of the Nexus One is available from the Google web store that is compatible with AT&T’s 3G network. This new model can be purchased as an unlocked device without a service plan. In addition to AT&T’s 3G network, this device will also run on Rogers Wireless in Canada. And like the first version of the Nexus One, it can be used with most GSM operators globally.
Additionally, Nexus One devices can now be shipped to Canada from Google’s web store, and will work with a SIM from Rogers Wireless. To find out which version you should purchase, based on your mobile service provider, please visit our Help Center.
Posted by annadph at Tuesday, March 16, 2010
Sorry i cant post links yet go to the nexus home page from google and look at the bottom left under news
Repost....
sorry should have read before i posted
[Official] US Cellular Samsung Galaxy S III Info/Pre-Order/Chat Thread
This thread is for all users on US Celluar.
Please post here if you are going to get it/sell your phone to purchase it?
It seems to be on the website now. Pre order starts June 12 online
Website Link: Email Signup: http://social.uscellular.com/
Online Order: http://www.uscellular.com/uscellula...ge+Hero+Slide+1-_-USCC+Home+Page+Hero+Slide+1
I will be getting it when it is released, sounds like some time in July. I hope US cellular uses similiar software as the other carriers. I have the s2 and is rooted, but not much else is compatible so hopefully the s3 will have more options once rooted as the other carriers. US cellular is the only carrier in my area with 4g service, so that is why I am staying with us cellular, why pay for a 4g phone if you cant utilize 4g I figure
US Cellular Pricing
Samsung Galaxy S® III - Blue 16GB $199.99 after $100 mail-in rebate
Samsung Galaxy S® III - White 16GB $199.99 after $100 mail-in rebate
Samsung Galaxy S® III - White 32GB $249.99 after $100 mail-in rebate
WEB-ONLY PRE-ORDER:
Pre-order the Samsung GALAXY S® III online today. This device is scheduled to ship approximately 4-6 weeks from pre-sale start date (June 12, 2012). Customer's credit card will be charged within 72 hours of customer placing the order. Completed mail-in rebate forms for Samsung GALAXY S® III pre-order customers will be honored if received by U.S. Cellular® prior to December 18, 2012.
Does that mean that only the pre-order customer will get the rebate? Six weeks from today means the phone should be shipping by July 24
ROM info
GGerk said:
I will be getting it when it is released, sounds like some time in July. I hope US cellular uses similiar software as the other carriers. I have the s2 and is rooted, but not much else is compatible so hopefully the s3 will have more options once rooted as the other carriers. US cellular is the only carrier in my area with 4g service, so that is why I am staying with us cellular, why pay for a 4g phone if you cant utilize 4g I figure
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I have researched the various carriers and offerings for a yr or so anticipating a new phone upgrade myself. US Cellualar uses CDMA technology for the service which is the lesser used of the 2 in the USA. The other is GSM, which constitutes 70% of the market here. I currently have a I Wireless Galaxy Vibrant S which is a partner of T-Mobile. This is GSM based and has had quite an extensive ROM development on xda. I have checked the CDMA US Cellular models on xda and have found none. I checked other CDMA phones and found some Sprint and Verizon phones. Their coverage lacks in my area. Do not hope for development on xda on a US Cellualar version of the SIII. I hope I'm wrong. Although, due to coverage issues, I may still be getting the US Cellualar SIII. My second choise is AT & T which also is a GSM carrier, but coverage in my 2 areas of need is worse than US cellualar. Good luck.
dbethards said:
I have researched the various carriers and offerings for a yr or so anticipating a new phone upgrade myself. US Cellualar uses GSM technology for the service which is the lesser used of the 2 in the USA. The other is CDMA, which constitutes 70% of the market here. I currently have a I Wireless Galaxy Vibrant S which is a partner of T-Mobile. This is CDMA based and has had quite an extensive ROM development on xda. I have checked the GSM US Cellular models on xda and have found none. I checked other GSM phones and found very few here. The market share is so small that there is little development on GSM phones save some Sprint phones (Sprint also uses GSM). Therefore, do not hope for development on xda on a US Cellualar version of the SIII. I hope I'm wrong. Due to coverage issues, I may be getting the US Cellualar SIII. My second choise is AT & T which also is a CDMA carrier, but coverage in my 2 areas of need is worse than US cellualar. Good luck.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Are you sure that US Cellular is GSM? They are a CDMA carrier, I believe you have facts incorrect
dhonzik said:
Are you sure that US Cellular is GSM? They are a CDMA carrier, I believe you have facts incorrect
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Reverse all my comments concerning GSM and CDMA in the quoted text. I got mixed up. I edited the original post. Thanks dzonzik.
Here's the carriers and their technology types:
CDMA: Alltel, Sprint, U.S. Cellular, Verizon
GSM: AT&T, T-Mobile
iDEN: Nextel
But, xda has not been a ROM developer for US Cellular phones. Some Verizon and Sprint though.
dbethards said:
Reverse all my comments concerning GSM and CDMA in the quoted text. I got mixed up. I edited the original post. Thanks dzonzik.
Here's the carriers and their technology types:
CDMA: Alltel, Sprint, U.S. Cellular, Verizon
GSM: AT&T, T-Mobile
iDEN: Nextel
But, xda has not been a ROM developer for US Cellular phones. Some Verizon and Sprint though.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Best place to look for android development besides here is:
http://www.rootzwiki.com
You could also check out www.teamuscellular.com.
Talked with a US Cellular store Rep and she related it should be coming out around 9 July