Just got my nice new XDA2...
And I am dismayed to find that the screen colours/wallpapers etc, all seem to be dithered images in a low colour depth.
Instead of smooth gradients, it seems banded from one colour to the next, and shades are made up of dots instead of many colours.
As this has 65,556 colours, I was not expecting this.
Its much like a real pc running in too low a colour depth - but unlike a real pc where this can easily be changed to 24bit or 32bit colour, I can find no such option on my XDA2. Anyone got any ideas, or is it really this bad (because that's how I would genuinely describe it - bad...)
Bumping ^
Anyone?
Same problem we all have, I think it is down to pixel alignment as if one tilts the top of the Xda II backwards the pixels and display appear how one would expect.
I feel cheated, i used to have a Dell X5 Advance. That display was flawless. Now i cant use some colors, especially blue. It gets really messed up...
Its sad
I still never found a satisfactory explanation, as it STILL looks as though the screen is simply NOT displaying anything like 65K colours...
Discovered this bug early on, but found a workaround. The problem seems to be a contrast issue (too high). Use the Pictures application and adjust the contrast of your pictures one notch downward.
I had an iPAQ H5555 before the XDA II (and a long list of iPAQ's before the H5555 ) I have no complaints over the display on my XDA II colours are crisp and clear, focus contrast and brightness are fine also.
Are you having problems with the default wall paper themes or other inages you have installed?
I have problems with any image used as the today background.
Even those created in Paint Shop Pro.
On my PC, they are smooth, gradiented fills, and blend smoothly.
Soon as you put them onto the XDA2 however, and it gets 'Banded' terribly. Legs appear in what seems like just two colours, a light flesh pink in the mid, and another lighter colour for the outline - a sharp jump from one colour to another - no gradiented fill in between.
Alas, I can't of course attach REAL screen shots, as in so doing the images would appear fine on here, as the images really ARE fine - its only their appearance on the XDA2 that goes haywire.
A simple example of what I mean, SIMULATED however, is as attached.
I have done this simply by posting a view from my window, in true colour 24K format, and then a copy of it, with the colour depth reduced to just 256 colours, with no error diffusion used.
This is almost EXACTLY what the resultant appearance is like on my XDA2. But sure enough, as some users say, if you ANGLE the XDA2, this becomes a lot less pronounced.
I am at a loss to understand why it does it at all however, becuase as far as I know, current screen technology does not need to suffer an issue such as this.
Mmmmmm.....
I have not found any sollution to the problem.
I am saddened to say, but it seems like it's the phone to blame.
So much for 65K Transflective being the bees knees.
I have designed a batch of about 60 themes for the phone, using photos. No matter what quality I save at, or even saving as .bmp based, half of them look terrible, with skin tones such as legs being made up of a lighter outline colour, with a big pool of a darker colour in the middle - TWO colours used to make up a part of an image that should be 100's of colours.
Terrible.
Even worse, I notice now, that this applies to Windows Media Player, playing back videos too.
If you angle your head/the XDA2 a certain angle, this reduces the effect. But I mean come on.
Obviously (based on my last comment there) this is a limitation of the screen technology.
Not impressed by far is all I can really say.
This annoys me too.
It feels like somewhere deep inside the XDA2 there's a hardcoded 4096 colour setting left over from the XDA 1. It's especially noticable on web pages.
You should bring this device back to where you got it from and test it side by side with another XDA II using the same themes.
The quality of my screen is perfect and the colours are all vivid and no banding appears unless the theme itself has banding.
I had an iPAQ 5455 that had the same problem as yours, colours appeared to only show 4096 colours 8bit. I sent back and it was replaced with another one that had a perfect screen.
Cheerio
Howard
Mmm - now this topic is getting interesting...
Anyone else think that there is a problem?
I have hinted all along that it's as if the XDA2 is only displaying images in a limited number of colours, and to now hear other people saying the same kind of thing makes for interesting reading...
hmmm
maybe i'm totally wrong, but: do you use CLEAR TYPE ???
i did activate it, and realized that eg. in the phone application the "talk" or the "number" buttons did really look awful.
so i turned clear type off, and my problems where gone... or was it all imagination ? i don't know ...
just a thought
servus ize|man
I do use it, so I'm about to experiment, and report back.
Was worth a try, but alas, no difference on my XDA2.
Just chose a couple of my themes that seem poorly 'dithered' and colour 'banded'.
Turned Cleartype off.
Did a reset...
And the themes look no different or better alas.
Damn.
Thanks for the suggestion though mate.
It REALLY does seem as if the 65000 colour XDA2 is forced into running with just 4096 colours - possibly even less.
But the way or angle you look at the screen makes all it look different, so then again, this could be an inherit issue, and in effect, 'feature' of the screen technology.
A very poor one if so, given the hype of how much much better this new screen is over the original XDA.
Probably one of the poorest that I have seen...
Here's my image quality.
I took your good image and put it onto my machine and took a screen shot. Here's the sample.... no banding!
Cheers
Exactly the same for me: no banding, good quality.
Perhaps something is wrong with your device.. :roll:
Er no guys...
Because that was just a SIMULATED screen shot, which I don't even use on my XDA2 - I just took a photo I had from my back window, and recoloured it down to 256 colours, to simulate what I see (as this is EXACTLY what it looks like with other themes).
I SHOULD have done it with a real theme I use, but in this case I hadn't.
I will post a theme file that is bad for me, and you can try that if you like...
My problem of course, is that all my many themes, are ADULT based images of my gf and her gf etc, so not suitable to post in a general forum such as this.
I have attached a screenshot of one of the 'tamer' ones though.
The screenshot, taken straight from ActiveSync Remote Display, appears FINE on a PC - it's on the DEVICE that it looks bad though.
So take a look at the screenshot, the area where I indicate bad 'banding' then run the also attached theme on your device, and tell me if you get 'banding' where I indicate, when you put the theme on your actual device?
Shadamehr,
It's the result of too much contrast. Try this:
1. Take the background bitmap you used for your theme and copy it to your XDAII.
2. Load the Pictures application and view the picture you just loaded.
3. Click Edit|Brightness And Contrast and adjust the contrast one or two settings downwards until the picture looks okay.
4. Save the picture, copy it to your PC and us it in your theme.
5. Try your new Theme on your XDAII and see if the banding problem goes away.
Hope this helps,
Rene
When i choose a picture as a wallpaper, it onli appears in the middle of the screen. It doesnt appear on the top bar (the start menu area) or the bottom bar (near softkeys).
what i wanna do is make the picture fit the entire screen, or at least make the bars opaque-ish so i can see the picture. I think the pictures will look much much better that way. Is there any way to do this?
Baronic said:
When i choose a picture as a wallpaper, it onli appears in the middle of the screen. It doesnt appear on the top bar (the start menu area) or the bottom bar (near softkeys).
what i wanna do is make the picture fit the entire screen, or at least make the bars opaque-ish so i can see the picture. I think the pictures will look much much better that way. Is there any way to do this?
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try editing the picture with paint (or similar) to size 240x320.
if that doesn't help, i've no idea what else to do.
Baronic said:
When i choose a picture as a wallpaper, it onli appears in the middle of the screen. It doesnt appear on the top bar (the start menu area) or the bottom bar (near softkeys).
what i wanna do is make the picture fit the entire screen, or at least make the bars opaque-ish so i can see the picture. I think the pictures will look much much better that way. Is there any way to do this?
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Try wisbar advance.
I've noticed some faint diagonal stripes on my LG G2 (LG-D802). They make a pixel like pattern of stripes, only they are diagonal from upper left to lower right and mostly visible on solid clear colors like red, green or blue. The stripes are very thin and the width of the stripes is comparable/or slightly smaller then the pixel width of my old Samsung Galaxy S2 (>200PPI). In other words, it's not something I see all of the time but it gets noticeable when you look closely. And as I said it is mostly visible on solid colors, and not on text and other edges where pixels normally is visible (not that I think this is the actual pixels I see). One of the easiest ways to see it is to search after "red" on google images and open a red image, but it is also visible in most apps or on the homescreen.
Is this something anyone else has experienced/noticed, or is it it my display that is faulty?
I'm not allowed to post an outside link in my message (new user), but here is a picture if anybody want's to see.
It was not easy to capture this on camera, but the stripes are barely visible in the red of the Google+ icon and in the dark blue of the image icon. For size comparison; I use Nova Launcher with icon size 70% and the Minimal UI icon pack.
www[dot]dropbox.com/s/68roby6lgh310y0/DiagonalStripesLGG2.jpg
Could it be a problem with your screen protector? If not i recommend sending it in for a check..
Thanks for the reply.
I don't have any screen protector on, but the lines does seem to be fixed to the screen. I.e. if I move an object the lines does not stick to the object but "new" lines gets visible, so it can look like it can be something with the glass.
If nobody else has experienced the lines I will definitively send the phone in for service.
I tried the local phone store, but the guy only laughed at me because he did'nt see it. Great service attitude when you make the customers feel stupid
Maybe you are talking about the touch sensors?
All the phones have it and it's more visible on xperia phones.
Maybe, but I think the lines/pattern is to small and dense to be the normal grid that people see. When I turn the screen off I can (barely) see the the digitzer grid, but it is a completely different pattern (horizontal and vertical lines) and the lines are separated by several line widths (some millimeters maybe?). The diagonal lines I see are very close together. It looks like they are only a line width apart from each other.
One other thing I just noticed is that the lines does not rotate when the screen is in landscape mode. They still go from the front-camera corner down to the corner to the right of the LG logo.
Is it nobody with a good sight that can confirm if they see the stripes or not? Would have helped me a lot when proceeding with getting the phone in for service.
Just want to ask, my screen looks yellowish when viewed from a certain angle (higher angle) and looks normal when viewed from another (lower angle i.e flat on the table)
Is this normal ? Or i have a yellow tinted screen...any fix for this or i need to send for repair
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Just want to ask, my screen looks yellowish when viewed from a certain angle (higher angle) and looks normal when viewed from another (lower angle i.e flat on the table)
Is this normal ? Or i have a yellow tinted screen...any fix for this or i need to send for repair
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I have the same problem did you find a fix
tonyafc said:
I have the same problem did you find a fix
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No bro...perhaps to live with it or go change at service center?
My screen developed worst problems now...suddenly a few translucent horizontal stripe came out all of a sudden...tomorrow I will be going to fix it at the service center
Vendetta1987 said:
No bro...perhaps to live with it or go change at service center?
My screen developed worst problems now...suddenly a few translucent horizontal stripe came out all of a sudden...tomorrow I will be going to fix it at the service center
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How did you get on at the service center? Did you have root?
Greetings all,
I have a S7, and when I have a open white area, lets just go with messages, When I open up the message (text, stock) and compose a new message, I get the white screen however in the background I can see the home screen icon's very faint, with colors. I did a screen shot and when on the phone you can see the icon's, however when I move the screen shot to the PC I dont see any of the icon's, I was hoping to post the pic, but the pic is perfect. I dont know how to explain this, but it weird. I have done two factory wipe's, this is stock, I have not modified this phone. The carrier, (If needed) is T-Mobile. Any and all information will be greatly appreciated.
Ciao~
BH
chargedbird said:
Greetings all,
I have a S7, and when I have a open white area, lets just go with messages, When I open up the message (text, stock) and compose a new message, I get the white screen however in the background I can see the home screen icon's very faint, with colors. I did a screen shot and when on the phone you can see the icon's, however when I move the screen shot to the PC I dont see any of the icon's, I was hoping to post the pic, but the pic is perfect. I dont know how to explain this, but it weird. I have done two factory wipe's, this is stock, I have not modified this phone. The carrier, (If needed) is T-Mobile. Any and all information will be greatly appreciated.
Ciao~
BH
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If you take a screenshot and it does not display the same as what you are seeing it means it is NOT software related unfortunately this is screen burn
thats what I figured, but its very bad, I have never had any of Samsung Phones every do this. If the display is burned, why would the icon's have color? I see only the background icons, when the screen is white. If it was burned should I see it on all the screens?
chargedbird said:
thats what I figured, but its very bad, I have never had any of Samsung Phones every do this. If the display is burned, why would the icon's have color? I see only the background icons, when the screen is white. If it was burned should I see it on all the screens?
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The screen burn burns in the colors a possible way to test this is change your background icons from what they were previously and see if the colours have changed on the screen where you can see the burn in..
Alternatively Get a screen test app https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=ua.dp.ustav.screentest should let you put solid colors on the screen) and set it for all white (there shouldn't be any other color showing) then for all black (there shouldn't be anything but black or a uniform very dark gray). If either one shows any sort of picture "ghost", the screen has burn-in.
Apparently it helps slightly if you set the screen mode to cinema. (Settings>Display>Screen Mode>Cinema)
Hope this helps