TRY AT OWN RISK!!!! I CAN NOT BE HELD RESPONSIBLE FOR ANY PROBLEMS, LOSS OF DATA, ETC!
*EDIT*
For now I just created a Mortscript file doing all these operations. Place it in a folder with the files from the zip in the first post (the following):
1de372cc_manila
3fee37f0_manila
24DBB12A_manila
57a92846_manila
64c98668_manila
247c62d4_manila
345f892c_manila
486d3b1a_manila
0828aea6_manila
3633be96_manila
People_Pages.xml
I commented out some stuff, please check the file for comments. Some registry settings I don't change myself, you can enable them by removing the brackets (#) in front of the corresponding lines.
Use at own risk of course (Mortscript is needed for this...)
*EDIT*
ORIGINAL POST:
Well, because I hated the 2.5 messaging and didn't like the fix of disabling it and going back to windows classic messaging (not being able to tap the sms in the message tab and all) I decided to just give the following a try:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=5202063#post5202063
For information, using the Topix 0.2 rom at the moment!
What I did was the following:
0. Download the archive file
http://manilavga.googlecode.com/svn...nse_amarullzNoMessagingClient_2.0.0-BETA2.zip
1. Disable sense (Disable it in the today settings)
2. Make a backup of all the files you are going to replace, just in case These are the files in the archive above.
3. Rename/delete the ManilaFull.xml in the windows dir (mentioned in that thread as well).
4. Copy the manilla and xml files from the .zip to the windows folder (in the zip there are a few manila files in subfolders, these are language files it seems and I just put them all in the windows dir, so not in the subfolder).
The PeoplesPages.xml I also copied to the ManillaXML folder in the windows folder.
4b. Extra step! Copy the file found in this post: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=5203019&postcount=1308
Into the windows folder as well, overwriting the other manila file. This fixes a double-tap not opening the message bug...
5. Enable sense again
6. Restart
7. Add rotation to it using BSB Tweaks
(8). I had the HTC messaging disabler cab installed and uninstalled it afterwards...
I think this was all...
Apart from some expected (it was made for VGA afterall) graphical issues (mainly in landscape mode) it actually seems to work fine!
The messages are divided over different pages now, no lag when loading, etc...
Just tried it now so I might find more issues soon but thought I'd mention it at least in case brave souls want to give it a try
Again, try at own risk!!! Haven't been able to test it extensively!
Any chance of some screenshots? The graphical VGA issues are holding me back from trying it...
Sure
Uploaded a portrait and landscape pic, just when the keyboard is displayed there is some overlap on the top. Nothing really bad though... Hope this helps, I'll see if there's something else I can make a screenshot of. But now, first dinner
Seems to work OK for me too Using Balaji 1.1 rom on Blackstone (HD), WM 6.5.x and Leo 2.01 based. Haven't tried landscape (I don't use it) but portrait seems to work fine. Only slight irritation is keyboard doesn't pop up on reply until you tap the text entry area. Much quicker than the laggy 2.5 messaging client
BTW I used the files from 0409 folder only, which I believe is English language. Well I'm English, and it worked anyway...
millski said:
Seems to work OK for me too Using Balaji 1.1 rom on Blackstone (HD), WM 6.5.x and Leo 2.01 based. Haven't tried landscape (I don't use it) but portrait seems to work fine. Only slight irritation is keyboard doesn't pop up on reply until you tap the text entry area. Much quicker than the laggy 2.5 messaging client
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Good to hear!
Don't know if the keyboard thing was different with the original software? But still, atleast a fast messaging app
Just tried this on my TP2.
Works GREAT thanks!!!
is there an eaiser way to do it? lol
It works for me! Thanks dagrim1.
Not perfectly, though. Clicking on the send message link in the contact card will restart Sense, and the same will happen if I choose the messaging tab inside the contact card.
Using the 1.61 Turkish ROM (will switch to EnergyROM soon).
It should be possible to do it through a cab file. Anyone up for it?
working for me on the topaz.
The overlap bug is more acceptable than the lagging message, thank you
Hmmm, some possible bugs?
1. Capitalize letter when starting a new sentence doesn't work? Maybe it's the rom though, heh...
2. When sending a message I don't see the contact but just the phone nr as the recipient. Clicking the msg DOES open the contacts tab (and goes to msg tab) but then the msg isn't listed there...
Still trying to find out an easier way to do all this as well.
One more bug: clicking on "menu" doesn't show anything.
NSider said:
One more bug: clicking on "menu" doesn't show anything.
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Hmmm, does with me... You mean after opening a msg? In the msg-tab from the people/contacts tab so to say?
Doesn't seem to work for me. Though I use Leo's Dutch version and the Dutch country code isn't included in the files. Anybody knowing a solution?
Or you need to do anything with the app.reg and _skip?
Hmmm, does with me... You mean after opening a msg? In the msg-tab from the people/contacts tab so to say?
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Yes. I see a flicker on the screen, but nothing pops up.
Anyone up for making a CAB?
I can't seem to change things in my windows folder, even though SENSE is off.
For anyone curious, this will not fix the SMS sending message problem.
Michiel0211 said:
Anyone up for making a CAB?
I can't seem to change things in my windows folder, even though SENSE is off.
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by change do you mean copy files? as i get a message saying i dont have permission when using activesync and i get
cannot copy '345f892c_manila': access is denied
agent.m said:
by change do you mean copy files? as i get a message saying i dont have permission when using activesync and i get
cannot copy '345f892c_manila': access is denied
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Exactly the same thing.
Acces denied. How do we circumvent this?
much faster sms but now seem to have the message sending bug on 1.61
any fix`/
For all who have problems to copy files into windows folder.
Grtz,
Degake
EDIT:
I added separate cab files with tweaks founded in the original downloadpackage.
There are 2 folders: 1 for GSM and 1 for CDMA devices.
tweaks contained are: - max. sms shown upgraded
- different font sizes (going from 0 to 8)
Related
This is not a program, but just registry settings to use the built-in biotouch.exe to call Manila Control in order to toggle between M2D and Today.
Notes:
must install Manila Control to \Windows\ before the attached .cab
the cube no longer works after installing this, but the corresponding processes (i.e. QuickDial.exe, MediaHubMini.exe and APLauncher.exe.exe) may still in your memory unless you replace the .exe by dummy programs or kill the processes.
must backup the original [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\HTC\Biotouch\Biotouch] before installing the attached cube, otherwise won't be able to restore the cube.
toggling M2D/Today using softkeys as shown in the demo video is NOT set by the attached .cab
Demo video:
http://hk.youtube.com/watch?v=3fGNWYI2fkA
download:
for Nike, Polaris and Vogue, pls refer to attachments of this post.
for Elf, pls see the one provided by dark.angel at post #13
Good idea, I'll try on HD when I'll have it, I hope monday.
Thank you
great idea. Although I've still yet to find a use for a second today screen. lol
is there going to be a version of this for the vogue? it seems neat but im not ballsy enough to install something not meant for my device quite yet.
lazyboy0172 said:
is there going to be a version of this for the vogue? it seems neat but im not ballsy enough to install something not meant for my device quite yet.
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Vogue uses different registry settings. please try the newly added cap in post #1. pls be prepared for bug-fixing time because i can't test it on my own. for safe, pls do a backup, especially the [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\HTC\Biotouch\Biotouch] registry key, before installing.
good luck.
davideuck said:
Good idea, I'll try on HD when I'll have it, I hope monday.
Thank you
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surely none of the 3 uploaded version would fit the vga devices.
if you want a try, i guess the Polaris version can be a good start. pls be prepare for the pull-up screen being in 1/4 size.
pls do let me know the testing result and see whether i can find a way to fix it. if it doesn't work at all, pls kindly let me know the following registry key values on your device:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\HTC\Biotouch\Biotouch]
"App1"
"Cube1"
"Path11"
thanks for your interest.
thx!! its very fine!
to pp18 with a simple question..
PP18!!
please let me know before i make some serious mistake with my HTC touch 3G jade..Is it working on it as well?Or your program is connected only to the above mentioned phones?I needed exactly the program tweeks u wrote.It should be fantastic,but I have this conserne..
Please let me know if I can tweek my 3G jade without fear..?!
by the way,thank you for the nice app you wrote..HELIOS
Great find,. thanks for sharing,,.
pp18 said:
This is not a program, but just registry settings to use the built-in biotouch.exe to call Manila Control in order to toggle between M2D and Today.
Notes:
must install Manila Control to \Windows\ before the attached .cab
the cube no longer works after installing this, but the corresponding processes (i.e. QuickDial.exe, MediaHubMini.exe and APLauncher.exe.exe) may still in your memory unless you replace the .exe by dummy programs or kill the processes.
must backup the original [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\HTC\Biotouch\Biotouch] before installing the attached cube, otherwise won't be able to restore the cube.
toggling M2D/Today using softkeys as shown in the demo video is NOT set by the attached .cab
Demo video:
http://hk.youtube.com/watch?v=3fGNWYI2fkA
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Is it possible to use this on HTC Touch (Elf)?
And also I would like to change running program from ManilaControl to any other, for example CommManager.
I've installed reg settings from the Vogue cab (is it right?), and copied original Biotouch.exe and dummy APLauncher.exe, MediaHubMini.exe and QuickDial.exe to the windows dir, created shortcut for biotouch.exe in the windows/startup folder and Soft-reseted my device.
Now when I make touch gesture the screen appears into black and nothing happens.
Is it possible using registry settings to bind touch gesture to run any exe (for example, commmanager.exe)?
Thank you for answers!
heliosismagic said:
PP18!!
please let me know before i make some serious mistake with my HTC touch 3G jade..Is it working on it as well?Or your program is connected only to the above mentioned phones?I needed exactly the program tweeks u wrote.It should be fantastic,but I have this conserne..
Please let me know if I can tweek my 3G jade without fear..?!
by the way,thank you for the nice app you wrote..HELIOS
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sorry i really can't answer your question because i haven't played around with a Jade before and I don't have any friends who have bought one. the main prob is, i don't know the version no. of biotouch shipped with Jade.
if you really want a try,
do a full backup (so that you can hard reset + restore in worst case)
backup/export the [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\HTC\Biotouch] registry subtree
try the Polaris version
good luck
dark.angel said:
Is it possible to use this on HTC Touch (Elf)?
And also I would like to change running program from ManilaControl to any other, for example CommManager.
I've installed reg settings from the Vogue cab (is it right?), and copied original Biotouch.exe and dummy APLauncher.exe, MediaHubMini.exe and QuickDial.exe to the windows dir, created shortcut for biotouch.exe in the windows/startup folder and Soft-reseted my device.
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Elf's built-in biotouch version is different from Vogue's. pls find the Vogue's version, which should appear in those threads about installing 4-sided cube on Elf
Now when I make touch gesture the screen appears into black and nothing happens.
Is it possible using registry settings to bind touch gesture to run any exe (for example, commmanager.exe)?
Thank you for answers!
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basically yes. the trick is in the "App1" reg key. if the app being called has a visible window and you want to use the swipe-down gesture to hide it (like the original cube), the first part of the key value must be the right class name. otherwise, like the case for Manila Control, simply use a non-exist class name.
I've duplicated my commanager.exe and mui files and renamed them to biotouch.exe and biotouch.exe.mui, so now after the touch gesture commanager is running. It works!
Here is the test cab file, i haven't tested it on a clean device, but it seems to be work. If it doesn't working, post here please.
added a link to the Elf's version by dark.angel to post #1
snoopy
Hey, Love the snoopy. Is there anyway to take it off however? I't just doesnt go well with my today screen?
KH2GR said:
Hey, Love the snoopy. Is there anyway to take it off however? I't just doesnt go well with my today screen?
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though not totally take if off, but editing the registry keys as below can minimize its appearance:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\HTC\Biotouch\Biotouch]
"TotalBMP"=dword:00000001
"Cube1"=hex:07,01,01,01,01,01,01,01,0A,C8,C9,CA,CB ,01,01,01,01,01,01
"UpFPS"=dword:0000FFFF
if you want to further cut down the size of the snoopy image that may appear for a short time, you can also change the below key:
(for Nike and Polaris) "Path1"="mc01.brn"
(for Vogue) "Path1"="\Windows\mc01.brn"
Is it possible to call manilla from any program with this gesture fix?
I mean the way I call and close cube by just scrolling tumb up or down.
Ok, yesterday I've played a little with the Social Network Engine and I've finally dioscovered how to get it to work...
Prerequisiste: have HTC album installed...pretty obiousvly. Then..
1) Install the cab extracted from the Blackstone (I've found it somewhere in this forum, can't remeber exactly where: sorry to the author)
2) Extract the SocialNetworkEngine archive and copy it into your SD. Then move all files into windows folder (using totalcommander, resco or similar). Theese files are part of the oem pack of the original app.
3) Extract the last one archive, that contains only the provxml file, and copy it into your SD. Then open Advanced Configuration Tool made by Shaps, select "Menu" then "Import provxml".
4) Softreset.
That's all guys.
PS: I've got no time to make a cab now, sorry again.
sorry for my dumb question, but what exactly is "the social network engine" ?
hebbe said:
sorry for my dumb question, but what exactly is "the social network engine" ?
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You can upload pictures to Facebook ex. And Videos to Youtube
Youtube and Facebook options for multimedia files
bye!
ah, thanks for the informations!
It doesn't seem to work here ... I followed your instructions to the letter but cannot login to facebook or youtube afterwards ..
Youtube says " You input the incorrect username or password " and
facebook says : " There was an error while attempting to login "
I'm using Dutty's V4 Rom
Am I to dumb or missing something ?
Garf
No...don't think you've missed something (just to ask: did you made a softreset?) because:
A) youtube should work even without my istructions, just installing the cab.
B) facebook should give you anotherone type of error (something like "connection attempt...")
Theese errors seems to be related to the user/password you've digited.
EDIT:
the facebook error is the same that I had befor import the provxml I've posted here. Did you do it and then softreset?
Found it !!!
This social Networking implemetation from HTC seems stoopid ....
Guess what the problem was ???????????
My passwords were too complex or too long !!!
I had a password in with 8 letters , Upper & Lower case , Numbers and Special Characters both for facebook and youtube .... Just changeing the password to something simpler made both work perfectly
*** AARGHHHHH ***
Now I just need to figure how complex I can make my passwords without breaking the social networking again !
Thanks
Claude
Ahahah...no comment!!!
Anyhow: happy that you solved.
Cheers.
Worked perfectly
Got this up and running perfectly doing your steps exactly on a Sprint Diamond running Juicy 3.9 ROM.
Thanks!
-Mike
works on pistonrippers rom.
cheers
brilliant app, love this many thanks
Chris
I'm glad to see that it works without any poroblem.
I'm really interested to know, discover, test...if this app can be used also with other services (not just with faceboo, youtube, ecc...) but also to upload photos to flickr, or songs to myspace in example. Dunno, but maybe it's just a base and it can be "expanded"...
doesn't work here on a german rom!?!
@Herr_Knigge:
I'm sorry, but I don't know cause I've got a WWE rom.
Maybe some files (that were extracted from an international rom) will cause some "compatibility" issues with a localized rom.
Can't help you a lot on this plane.
Sorry again.
i know this might sound daft, but is there any way to use a html doc to open the Album.exe ?
one of the guys posted the following in the dev and hacking section as a front for facebook mobile,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=3080511#post3080511
i like the idea and have been playing around with it to make it more usable for me, then thought about trying to include a link to the album now it can be used to upload to facebook. ive included my edit to give you an idea of what im thinking but the code is beyond me
if anyone thinks this could work feel free
I'm not an HTML expert, anyhow I'm pretty sure that's not possible.
I think the only link to an external program (without that the browser ask you for a confirm) will be made with the command "mailto:" to send an email with you favourite desk app.
Moreover, if you use opera to open the page that you've posted above, the space needed on the bottom bar to create the new shortcut will be overdrwaned by the small menu button of the browser.
Anyhow, I found this "trick" very nice and I want to try it sometimes. So I've just correct a small line of the code to erase the useless (and very annoying) horizontal scrollbar. If you want to test it, just rename the file to fbook.html then copy it into the original folder and say "yes" to overwrite the old one.
Cheers.
im running the stock rom for sprints touch pro... will this still work for me?
Think so.
Don't imagine why it should not...
Regards.
Ok I followed your step to the letter and everything seemed to work great, no hiccups during install I was even able to login to facebook with no errors. I tried the other facebook program and could not get it to login so that was good (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=3125204#post3125204).
On the top my little data transfer thing is going but its going and going and going, and no picture has been uploaded. How long do I have to wait for 1 picture? I have a feeling that this is not working right on the Sprint Touch Pro stock ROM.
Is there a way for me to view the uploader (did not see it in program files), also the album seems to be more responsive and easier to navigate, is it just my imagination? Last Some of the thumnails wont populate, I have to exit and then come back in and then they appear, is this a bug in this version of the album or always there>
I have installed Background for all tabs:
http://www.ad-grafiska.se/x1/Touch_X_X_TREME_10_BG_ALL_TABS.cab
After installed I found that when I slide out the keyboard, there is around 2-3 seconds delay for the screen to turn to landscape.
Anyone knows how to fix that??
Another problem is: After doing the Bluetooth quality Tweak, The "Straight Talk" Function not working anymore
ive the same problem....and its not related with the image weight...
i had the same problem with it being slow so I just uninstalled it for now and will put up with the default.
Another problem is: After doing the Bluetooth quality Tweak, The "Straight Talk" Function not working anymore
Any Expert here know how to fix that?
SOLVED!!!!
follow these instruction and you'll get the wallpaper you want in hd and no lag from landscape and portrait!!!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=503511
Yep !! it's the best and only perfectly working method. You need a pc thou and also go to hkcu\software\htc\manila
and delete the "DefaultHomeBackgroundPath"
so that the background also appears on the home tab.
I had already pointed out this solution here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=3885269&postcount=4
Also the thread title could have helped you: there you could have seen quite clearly that the same issue was discussed
Just to have the least number possible of open threads with the same object
Thanks for your kindly help
Its lag because that file is compressed (i guess) which need CFC patch
But can somebody confirm that when using HDWall, if u want to change other wallpaper, u need to create another cab/*manila file package or just change thru manila settings tab because it only change my home tab after using HDWall created manila.
Hi
try this it worked for me without editing any files http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=479112
and I dont have any slowness then opening the keyboard
It is same like 1st post (which was renamed or repacked from mun_rus cab)
monx® said:
Its lag because that file is compressed (i guess) which need CFC patch
But can somebody confirm that when using HDWall, if u want to change other wallpaper, u need to create another cab/*manila file package or just change thru manila settings tab because it only change my home tab after using HDWall created manila.
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I didn't compress it, and I have no lag.
I can confirm you that you have to create another cab. At least this is what I've been doing till now.
Btw, have you been able to patch the stock version of Manila ?? I haven't and couldn't find a how-to... so I am forced to use non-compressed files and possibly (?) have less performance... or is there another reason to compress these files?
passcode problem for AIROBLUE G4 BLUETOOTH HEADSET
HI ALL,
I have a problem for passcode for AIROBLUE G4 BLUETOOTH HEADSET always pairing failed, can you help me my unit si nokia 2630
thanks,
Rommel
cobbs said:
Hi
try this it worked for me without editing any files http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=479112
and I dont have any slowness then opening the keyboard
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Any one tried these ones?
I would like to both find the following 2 fixes and cook them into my rom, but i cannot yet find the fixes - perhaps someone could be so kind as to help.
1. I do not want to see the 'could not connect' message - yes I have disabled both the connected and disconnected option but cannot find a way to remove that message. Really annoying when using TomTom.
2. When I tap the little keyboard at the bottom, to bring up the on screen keyboard, half the tme I accidentally get the input option menu I never use this and only want the standard keyboard - can I disable the option menu?
I have more questions, but am working through them as I think they are solvable by me with more time research.
Many thanks.
EDIT - See post 22 for likley solution to problem 1
crazyC said:
1. I do not want to see the 'could not connect' message - yes I have disabled both the connected and disconnected option but cannot find a way to remove that message. Really annoying when using TomTom.
2. When I tap the little keyboard at the bottom, to bring up the on screen keyboard, half the tme I accidentally get the input option menu I never use this and only want the standard keyboard - can I disable the option menu?
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1. I don't know.
2. [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\HTC\ezsip]
"EnableSipMenu"=dword:00000000
Softreset...that's it.
Thanks, but I have tried that and it did not work. (I have gone back and checked that the reg edit was still there after the soft reset, and it was.)
TomTom breaking Manila
I still cannot answer my two initial questions, but have come across a strange issue.
I have tried to cook TomTom into my ROM to save time on the install. I have done this is the past with old style kitchens on previous phones no problem.
I have used the cab to ext converter in OsKitchen and made a package. If I inlcude the package in my ROM however, Manila will not start. Itr just syas tap here to start HTC Sense, and then flickers a bit but for love nor money I cannot make it start.
By a process of elimination I am sure it is the TomTom package causing this.
Running the cab via cab does not cause this issue.
Would anyone know what the problem might be?
Cheers
Don't use the cab converter to make the EXT. My guess is that the cab has a setup.dll, and the converter is missing something important. Here is how you want to make the package:
Install the cab; get all of the files created and put them in your package. Obviously, there will be files in \program files, but there may be some dumped into \windows, \my documents, the device root or \application data or \startup. There may be a new directory in \windows. Find those files and put them in the package as well; organize them however you want. Personally, I'd relocated the .exe and dll's and anything else I could into \windows, but I've never used tom-tom and don't know how it's organized or how it works.
Next, get all of the registry keys (after you register the program). I'm guessing that it's HKCU\software\tomtom or hklm\software\tomtom or something similar. There may also be other keys installed elsewhere (like clsid keys). Find those. If there's a setup.dll, you can open it with a text editor and probably see where they are. Some may appear in the _setup.xml. The best way to do this is to track changes with sk tracker, or do it the hard way and compare the registry before and after install with windiff (comparing full registry exports).
Once you have all the files and the reg keys, build the package. Clearly, the package builder is failing you, so I'd punt on it. Don't cook in the setup.dll, though (or anyting with a similar name, like tom-tomsetup.dll; sometimes there's more than one). Also, sometimes more complicated cabs will have zip files that install further during installation-open these up, look at them to make sure you have all the contents, then remove from the package.
Just a little add to Farmer Ted's excelent instruction.
I use wince cab manager to extract a cab, this will give you the registry plus the file locations.
This will give you something to compaire and helps you easier search what you are looking for.
The file locations you can create yourself in initflashfiles.dat or app.dat
To export a registry on device I use registry workshop.
With registry workshop you can export registry from your device straight to your pc.
If you are planning to realocate all the files to windows you need to edit the shortcuts to so they direct to windows and not program files for example.
The shortcuts you can open with a tekst editor.
Thanks guys - much appreciated.
The problem is that TomTom runs fine, its just that it screws up Manila. I will try and pull the cab to pieces as advised to make sure it is converting properly and also to see if I can spot anything that might impact Manila in the registry etc.
I dont suppose you have any thoughts on teh original two questions?
Not realy, but if the cab runs fine but your package isnt then there must be something wrong in the package isn't?
crazyC said:
I dont suppose you have any thoughts on teh original two questions?
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There is actually not much in the cab.
Using Wince cab Manager I can see no setup.dll
There are also no reg entries - nor can I find anything in the reg on the device that does anything other than list the install directory.
Looking at th files it installs, there are a couple of bluetooth files that can cause an error - odly it seems to not affect me when it is a cab but it must overwrite the windows ones when it is cooked in. The only thing I can think of is that it also has a phone.dll that presumably overwrites the one in the sys.
I will try cooking without this in my next build and see.
Unfortunately I am out of time as have recooked/flashed almost ten times trying to tie down this issue and then getting back to a stable base.
I have also 'broken' Arkswitch which was working on earlier builds. Don't think its related though.
crazyC said:
Thanks guys - much appreciated.
The problem is that TomTom runs fine, its just that it screws up Manila. I will try and pull the cab to pieces as advised to make sure it is converting properly and also to see if I can spot anything that might impact Manila in the registry etc.
I dont suppose you have any thoughts on teh original two questions?
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It's weird that it screws up manila; I don't use manila (or T-T, obviously), so can't help you there. I'm just guessing that you're missing a registry key that you need to get the package to work. Is there a tom-tom demo (not warez)? If you post a link, I'll take a look at the cab to see if I can make an ext from it, or figure out what's going on. Some cabs are just a *****, and you're better of doing a cab install. You should see the Redfly cab, it's sick, lol. It's one that has a zip file that does a secondary install. I hate it. I also hate Redfly, but that's another story.
I read somewhere that with some sip buttons, if you press the left half, it launches the keyboard, and if you press the right half, it launches the menu. I've never experienced it myself, and don't know which builds it affects or why it happens. Is this what's going on? I'm just guessing, since you say it eff's up half the time. I have no idea how to disable the connection message, but I wouldn't mind knowing how, either. It's annoying as crap.
What's your device memory left over?
I'm just thinking, maybe you could exclude TomTom from the taskmanager exclusive list.
Sorry one more idea, you are cooking for Rhodium right?
HD2 and Rhodium have a simulair bluetooth stack.
I remember on first HD2 roms there were some problems with TomTom and bluetooth on HD2.
Just a taught.
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There is actually not much in the cab.
Using Wince cab Manager I can see no setup.dll
There are also no reg entries - nor can I find anything in the reg on the device that does anything other than list the install directory.
Looking at th files it installs, there are a couple of bluetooth files that can cause an error - odly it seems to not affect me when it is a cab but it must overwrite the windows ones when it is cooked in. The only thing I can think of is that it also has a phone.dll that presumably overwrites the one in the sys.
I will try cooking without this in my next build and see.
Unfortunately I am out of time as have recooked/flashed almost ten times trying to tie down this issue and then getting back to a stable base.
I have also 'broken' Arkswitch which was working on earlier builds. Don't think its related though.
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Thanks both for your continued help.
Yes I am cooking for the Rhodium and am using the Rhodium Manila plus Cookie 1.6.1 so as to keep memory use in check. Ok I have added in the 1.8 HTC messaging but it doesn't cause a problem. Memory is about 40% free on first boot - am also using 23568 as the SYS base. I also use Ameba.
I think my Arkswitch issue is due to something else cooked in, but being honest I dont really use Arkswitch much and so am going to drop it next time I cook I think.
Farmer Ted - There is no issue with TomTom as regards Warez as far as I know - the program is fine - it is the maps that must be purchased and talking about getting round that is where the problems arise. The program itself is OK.
I might get one last chance to cook and flash tonight to check out my theory about the Phone.dll. If not I will post back and throw myself on your mercy, although as you say, it might be better to just live with the fact it will be a cab install. due to the way the files interact and the fact that the tomtom package works, I do think something is being overwritten in the cooking process and all I can see is that file.
The reason I have persisted with TomTom is that I have made an old style OEM package in the past from the cab with no problems (long lost kitchen).
With regards to the Bluetooth issues - I have sorted those now AFAIK.
RESULT! re TomTom - will post back after putting my little girl to bed.
OK - to summarise.
I ran TomTom through the cab importer within OsKitchen and it produced a package.
Although the cab had installed and run with no errors, cooking it in created 2 errors.
Firstly, there was a bluetooth message about bttray or something not being a valid application.
This is caused by two BT files in windows being overwritten by the TomTom ones. Simply renaming the two fiels to include the word OLD in the name sorted that. I will just remove them next time as I do not think they are necessary if the windows files are there.
The second issue was that Manila would not start. I believe this is due to a similar issue to the above, in that phone.dll was being overwritten. I renamed the file to PhoneOLD.dll and cooked in the package and now Manila starts.....
Still looking for answers to my first two questions though
(and yes its cos I keep hittingt he side of the button with my fat fingers that the keyboard selector comes up)
I'm not sure what's up with the keyboard, although I use Resco, so maybe you don't get then menu popup when you hit the wrong half. Have you tried killing SIPGT_app.exe? Maybe it won't pop up with that killed. If that's the case, then remove the bootlauncher key in your ezinput package. Killing it may not help, though.
I could not find that exe file to kill. The keyboard behavious is I believe as it is intended to work - just not how I want it. But are you saying Resco Keyboard fixes this?
However my final reflash last night seems to have gone a bit nuts. I am now getting all sorts of problems with apps not being able to run because they are unsigned etc or bits missing.
We are talking about stuff cooked in that has previously worked flawlessly.
Had some issues with my PC last night as well. I think I need to go back a step when I get home tonight and maybe rebuild the kitchen.
Time and kitchens have moved on a little, but as things are going well, I am back to my original 2 questions that continue to perplex me:
1. Is there a way of stopping the 'cannot connect' bubble from coming up, or even to make it automatically close after say a few seconds.
2. Is there a way of stopping the keyboard selector menu from popping up when the side of the keyboard icon is hit. I just want the qwerty option and do not want the menu to come up ever.
I have been able to make no headway at all with (1), - found mention of one cab somewhere but the link had expired - and have tried various things for (2) but with no success yet.
Anyone?
Cheers
PS- to follow up my previous posts yes the fixes I mentioned for Tom Tom work fine - it was the 3 files causing the issues.
In my old Kaiser roms i used the below reg key to disable connect notification,sorry i really dont remember if it disable also"cannot connect".
Code:
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\ControlPanel\Notifications\{8ddf46e7-56ed-4750-9e58-afc6ce486d03}]
"Options"=dword:00000000
Disable Sip Menù is the same reg key that another guy posted here:
Code:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\HTC\ezsip]
"EnableSipMenu"=dword:00000000
I tried it on my HD2 before posting here and setting it to 0 it leave the menù where you can select keypad,compact qwerty,full qwerty and language,it is still present a little menù with the option and my guess is that this isnt removable.
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Time and kitchens have moved on a little, but as things are going well, I am back to my original 2 questions that continue to perplex me:
1. Is there a way of stopping the 'cannot connect' bubble from coming up, or even to make it automatically close after say a few seconds.
2. Is there a way of stopping the keyboard selector menu from popping up when the side of the keyboard icon is hit. I just want the qwerty option and do not want the menu to come up ever.
I have been able to make no headway at all with (1), - found mention of one cab somewhere but the link had expired - and have tried various things for (2) but with no success yet.
Anyone?
Cheers
PS- to follow up my previous posts yes the fixes I mentioned for Tom Tom work fine - it was the 3 files causing the issues.
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Cheers for that - I am concluding that the SIP issue I wil live with, and I already have that reg key set to zero for the connections issue, to no avail. I am experimenting with some other keys, but its really shooting in that dark, and as I cannot readily reporduce the notification, it will be a few days before I can even see any change.
Oh well. I will update if I get anywhere.
Ooooohhh, following some more digging, I MAY have an answer re the cannot connect bubble. I saw someone elses solution and that has actually led me to what could be far simpler.
I will try and cab it up later tonight for other to try. It is just a reg entry
EDIT - maybe I spoke too soon.
I am testing this by alternating between 3G and 2G on the comm manager - normally this will pull up the message. (Could someone confirm this as a valid test method).
I thought I had it solved, then the message appeared, but have done it another ten times with no hint of the message.
Some more testing to do......
Hello guys,
I have a strange problem.
I mod Jackos Rhodium ROMs (under his permission and valuable help) translating them to Polish, but I still continue to have one issue after my modifications.
Apparently my problem occurs only on WM6.5.x ROMs (currently on 21690, but before that Jackos used 28236 and the problem was there as well).
And the problem is that after some time since last SR the dialer just stops appearing after I press the "Send" button (or clicking the "Phone" link in Start Menu). After I make a SR, everything is fine for some time (sometimes 1h, sometimes 2-3 days) and out of a sudden I have to call someone and I press the Send key to bring up the dialer and... nothing happens. Sometimes only a SIP icon appears in the middle of the bottom homescreen softkeybar.
My modification is quite simple. I dump Jackos' ROMs using PRB mini kitchen which I got from Jackos (to flat dump form), exchange all the language files (mui, htm, txt) with Polish equivalents and recook the ROM adding 2 cabs to the config.txt which are used only to change some reg entries. Then I recook the ROM using the kitchen.
I reviewed all the mui files and all the reg changes and everything seems to be fine. Well, the ROM eventually works fine except for the dialer/phone canvas/SIP problem.
If you don't know what the problem is perhaps some of you can give me some advice where should I look?
I search the xda and other forums for few days and haven't bumped on any working solution...
Sorry for bumping, but I'm getting to nowhere...
I downloaded Jackos's full custom kitchen and spent 5 nights to adjust it for making 0415 ROM. I had to change many of the .mui files and hundreds of .reg, .rgu, provxml files. I decided to build all the polish packages from scratch to avoid any errors. And finally I built the ROM and besides problems with start menu structure it generally works fine. The memory management seems to be as good as original Jackos WWE ROMs (I didn't change anything in the base rom, only separated 0409 files from the packages and added 0415 packages).
But guess what! My dialer problem is baaaack...
After a SR the Sendkey works fine, but after a few phone calls it just doesn't bring the dialer/phone canvas to the front. The button itself is ok, because longpress works fine. And when I press the sendkey the light also goes on.
And the phone canvas is OK as well, because when I slide-open the keyboard and put any letter from the HQWERTY, the dialer appears immediately.
Furthermore I can now return to portrait closing the keyboard and do all the things I usually do with the dialer (put names, numbers, etc.)
Pleeeease help a poor cooking begginer because I have run out of ideas...
Stop crying and start debugging?
Use one of the tools to see the dependents of PhoneCanVas. I also suggest that you exclude all of your registry tweaks.
I'm crying 'cause I slept 2-3 hours per day since Sunday because if this @#$#%[email protected]%$
Just noticed one more thing. When the problem with the dialer happens it affect also Sense message notifications. I just received a text message and there is no "green dot" on the Sense slider nor on the notification bar. Only an SMS symbol on the taskbar.
After SR it's all good... for now...
Debugging... What tools you mean? I never played with no tools that can check the dependancy between packages...
Use the DependencyInspector by ultrashot. It's really easy to use.
Either I'm too stupid to use it or it shows nothing for PhoneCanvasEnhancement. I moved language folders in this package to the OEM way as I read this tool is for OSBuilder only, but still no effect...
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Either I'm too stupid to use it or it shows nothing for PhoneCanvasEnhancement. I moved language folders in this package to the OEM way as I read this tool is for OSBuilder only, but still no effect...
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It's designed to work with OEM packages and you're inspecting a EXT package. Try harder.
Well, the folder structure is like in the OEM package. What else should it need? a dsm? I could install OSBuilder and force it to build a dsm file for the package, but if the libraries have any dependances they should be detected by the DependencyInspector just like by the OSBuilder when building .dsm, shouldn't they?
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Well, the folder structure is like in the OEM package. What else should it need? a dsm? I could install OSBuilder and force it to build a dsm file for the package, but if the libraries have any dependances they should be detected by the DependencyInspector just like by the OSBuilder when building .dsm, shouldn't they?
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Choose what you want to inspect. You can do better than that.
Well I'm afraid I don't get you... again...
I'm trying to inspect a package. As far as I tested on other packages (in the OEM folder) the app tests all the dlls and muis it can find. And testing a kitchen doesn't make any sense with this structure and only EXT packages, does it?
Does the attached picture help you by any chance?
Heh... I should've known you never give straight answers, but you make people think. Let me dig some more...
Well... not much findings anyway.
I have changed 3 .mui files (commctrl.dll.0415.mui, shellres.dll.0415.mui, phcanhtc.dll.0415.mui). They seemed OK by the resources, but all of them have some code inside as well. Perhaps this will help.
Havent found anything in the registry. But I'm just groping as I don't know where to pay attention. The error occures usually during normal use, I couldn't find any rule when it actually happens to be able to reproduce it later on.
Either way I now use another test ROM. We'll see...
Good luck, mate.
Ehhh... still nothing. I haven't found any solution among the dependancies...
I even had a case when my dialer wouldn't have showed up right after flash (with no customisation).
But there's one additional matter. It's only the Send Key which could not trigger the phone canvas to show. When I clicked the PHONE shortcut from left softkey it showed up without problems. But the long press worked.
I started to search around for an information of the hard keys driver. But no breakthrough as well. I run out of ideas here...
Additionally I have another Rhodium (I've bought Jackos' one) and the problem is there also. So now I'm sure it's "my" PLK ROM problem, not a broken MoBo or anything else.