I'm having a wierd problem with my Hermes. I have the Scnaps 4.01 WM6 rom on my phone right now, but the same thing happened with Blacks rom when i was running that.
Sometimes when i turn it on, it says it has signal so i try to make a call i get operation failed, and then you see the signal drop back to searching, it finds the network and then logs back on. Same thing happens even if i dont make a call, turn on the hermes, and look at it, has signal, then 10 seconds or so later it drops to searching (it never really had signal) then logs back on, and then sms's get delivered. I've also had people try to call me during this time and it's like the phone is off.
I've tried a few different radio versions recently but same behavior with all of them. 1.54.30, 1.54.07 and currently on 1.43.
Something else weird is the fact that it seems like (I could be wrong) this only happens after having the rom on for a week or so, ie after flashing a rom, the first week or so i don't get the issue, then it slowly starts to happen - this could just be my imagination.
Has anyone else had this issue? Any ideas/suggestions welcome, thanks
Hi Ferni...
This is something that is becoming quite an issue recently
Firstly, have you made sure the SIM contacts are nice and clean and everything is fitted OK - and have you tried a different rom image? If not - try these first.
Secondly, where abouts in the world are you and what network are you on?
Thirdly - when did you install 1.54.30 and 1.54.07 - did your problems start before or after you flashed a 1.54x radio - and what radio were you running before trying these.
Finally - What other information do you have about your device - is it a herm100,200 or 300, what IPL/SPL is it.
Sorry for the 100 questions, but I'm investigating these issues at the moment as a lot of users have had similar problems especially after using radio 1.54.x as this thread discusses.
Thanks for the reply. Just read the other thread you linked to (and the threads it linked to). Interesting to know i'm not the only one.
I just pulled the sim out and gave it a rub and the contacts and put it back in. I also had a bigger battery in it, so i removed that and put the standard one back in. See if that makes a difference.
I used to run the black rom, now I run the schaps one, trying to avoid flashing it again just a pain to resetup everything you know....
I'm in Australia, on the Optus network. The JasJam is actually only sold by Telstra here, but i got one 2nd hand and use it on the optus network fine (Optus sell the Dopod). The latest radio rom 1.54.30.10 i belive is actually from Telstra - in the offical WM6 rom from them for the JasJam.
As for when i flashed which rom and when the problems started happening - i can't really say sorry, i didn't keep track. I've had the phone around 6 months, flashed it with a cooked WM6 rom (black i think) when i first got it, i probably updated the radio as well.
How do i tell if it's a 100, 200 or 300? Also not sure what SPL it is, HardSPL or something?
Tempted to flash it to the official telstra rom released recently with the latest radio, so if it does die completely i can send it back for warrenty. What do you think?
Thanks for the info - every little helps at the moment!
Firstly, yes - the radio you're running is native to the area and network and so if you're running 1.54.30.10 and it goes duff you should be covered by your warranty so don't worry. Also, it's not certain yet that there is definitely a problem with this radio so don't loose too much sleep. (Most of the problems linked with this radio that I've researched so far seem to be coming from Europe and after rolling back).
As for flashing with the official ROM, that's a decision for you - however in the cases of sudden GSM death, the phone will still boot to Windows and it is still possible to flash the OS and bootloader roms (just not the radio) so if it did go bad with an unofficial ROM on it you should still be able to roll it back - again sleep easy ;-).
As for the problem - the steps you've taken are a good start, see how it goes and keep us informed here.
It may be worth also trying to manually set your band (if applicable on your network). Sometimes problems like this can be caused by issues on the network itself and trying an alternative (maybe a friends) SIM card for a different network or even manually switching the phone to GSM (if available) can "cure" a problem (although it's a pain if you specifically need to use 3G and it's data speeds!).
Finally - to see your full device information you need to enter the "bootloader" (tricolour) screen. Hang on to this information on the bootloader screen as it can be useful if you ever encounter a bad flash.
To do this, hold the OK button on the left of your phone and the power button on the right then press the little reset button with your stylus. You will then see the model at the top with the IPL version below it and then the SPL version below that. To get out of the tricolour screen, press the reset button again. Needless to say this won't erase anything or damage your device but make sure you close your apps and save your data first
I'm not running 1.54.30.10 right now, think i'll flash back to that monday just in case.
Since changing my battery back to the original and cleaning the sim card, still having the same problem. Seems to be happening more and more often as time goes on.
I've actually already manually set my band and tried to run without 3g turned on before i posted this thread when i was doing my own trouble shooting, and it didn't help.
When flashing i normally just push autodetect which is why i don't know my bootloader info off the top of my head.
It's a HERM100 running IPL-1.04 and SPL2.10.Olipro.
I'm starting to think it only has a limited time left in it before it doesn't pick up radio at all. When that happens i'll flash the official firmware back on it, and the orig bootloader (not sure how to do that yet, will have to look it up). And see if i can get warrenty.
ferni said:
I'm not running 1.54.30.10 right now, think i'll flash back to that monday just in case.
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What radio are you currently running? Thought it was 1.54.30.10 or did you change that the other day when trying a new ROM?
ferni said:
Since changing my battery back to the original and cleaning the sim card, still having the same problem. Seems to be happening more and more often as time goes on.
I've actually already manually set my band and tried to run without 3g turned on before i posted this thread when i was doing my own trouble shooting, and it didn't help.
When flashing i normally just push autodetect which is why i don't know my bootloader info off the top of my head.
It's a HERM100 running IPL-1.04 and SPL2.10.Olipro.
I'm starting to think it only has a limited time left in it before it doesn't pick up radio at all. When that happens i'll flash the official firmware back on it, and the orig bootloader (not sure how to do that yet, will have to look it up). And see if i can get warrenty.
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*IF* this is the sudden GSM death syndrome then it will progressively get worse unfortunately - but it might not be that (think positive!)
[edit : removed - brainfart you answered my question] Incidentally, just updated this thread here - Look at post #60, it's a long post but there is a couple of possible things for you to try there (multiple flashing on a "chilled" phone) for users who STILL have some GSM connectivity... Might be worth a go and certainly could do no more harm... The post itself is very technical but just follow the instructions about 3/4 way through the post and ask any questions back here in this thread so things don't get too confused!
In terms of flashing your ROM - when you _really_ feel the phone may die _very very soon_ then it's worth considering flashing it with the latest OFFICIAL rom from your provider while you are able to do a full flash but don't leave it until DHL are at your door to collect it just in case you need some help!
Oh yeah... and finally for tonights post - Rolling back from Olipros Hard SPL... back to the normal, official SPL - Mr Vanx has written a fantastic guide to this here complete with illustrations - That should save you some searching
The SPL rollback, of course, should be the very last thing to do before shipping it back under warranty of course tho - just incase you need it in the mean time!
Good luck - and keep us updated - particularly if all works again (or not)forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=299070&page=32
I'm on 1.43 right now.
So what you think i should do is put my phone in the fridge (minus battery) for 10-15mins, then flash 1.43 a couple of times while it's still cold, and see how that goes?
ferni said:
I'm on 1.43 right now.
So what you think i should do is put my phone in the fridge (minus battery) for 10-15mins, then flash 1.43 a couple of times while it's still cold, and see how that goes?
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Yes. Crazy as it sounds, if the previous radio caused "logical" bad blocks - a combination of a couple of flashes in quick succession with the PLA at a cooler temperature might recover them! (temperature issue came from the data sheet for the chip itself - Apparently more efficient writing at temperatures a minimum of 10C below ambient).
Good luck - let us know how it goes... I've got my fingers crossed you'll have a Hermes with it's wings back shortly
Last night the phone got worse, i had a missed call, tried to turn the unit on to see who it was and it wouldn't turn on, so i soft reset it, it booted up ok, but wouldn't pick up a signal.. eventually after about 5mins it did, but then it locked up. So i pulled my sim card out put it into an old phone which i'm using for now.
This morning came into work and put it in the fridge for 15mins, and flashed the latest radio firmware on it. Then flashed the latest official telstra rom onto it (getting ready for warrenty). That's just finished, only step left is to put the original boot loader back on. May test it again for a couple of days to see if i can get it to do the same thing on the offical rom/radio before i send it back. Will let you know.
Thanks for your help so far.
Ok Just another update, only a couple of hours since i flashed it and it's already doing the same thing, losing network, so going to call imate and send it for warrenty. We tried
ferni said:
Ok Just another update, only a couple of hours since i flashed it and it's already doing the same thing, losing network, so going to call imate and send it for warrenty. We tried
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We did indeed - Ah well, at least you're covered by warranty
Mr Vanx has written a fantastic guide to rolling your bootloader back - complete with illustrations. (repeated for others who've just started reading this thread)
Yeah hopefully it gets covered under warrenty. That bootloader guide worked perfect
For anyone who cares, they replaced my radio board under warranty - I now have a new IMEI number. Haven't got the phone back yet to test to see if it's fixed.
Did you ever upgraded the Radio ROM ?
Or was it always 1.43.
My first ROM only upgrade.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1462158&postcount=292
Yeah i had tried a few different radio roms before this. I suspect it didn't like being flashed so many times.
I am having same problem with 8525 here in south texas. currently running latest att official rom. I have flashed k 1.30, tnt special, schaps rom in last week and so as 1.41.xx , 1.48.00.00, 1.51.xxxx, 1.54.xx xx rom and all have same problme.
Don;t know what to do?
I live in WI and travel to rural areas where there is no 3g. I have experienced this same problem when I loose the signal from a 3g area to a non 3g area as it reacquires the signal. I did all the recommended fixes with bandswitch and activesync but to no avail. However, I did this about a week ago, and my problem seem to have disappeared
Go to advance config>data connections>gprs auto attach
disable it
I think the phone goes beserk when it doesn't find the 3g signal?
Try it and please report back if it works
gondalguru said:
I am having same problem with 8525 here in south texas. currently running latest att official rom. I have flashed k 1.30, tnt special, schaps rom in last week and so as 1.41.xx , 1.48.00.00, 1.51.xxxx, 1.54.xx xx rom and all have same problme.
Don;t know what to do?
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I flashed one of the wm6.1 roms and ended up with 1.54.07 radio and was getting the "modem disconnected" error message everytime I tried to log on to the internet.
I reflashed the original WM6.0 ROM from AT&T and then reflashed my radio to 1.48 (can't go back to 1.16 because of the radio bootloader I think) and then tried to log on to the internet.
That didn't work
But then I made a phone call to my home phone
tried logging on and it worked.
Been working fine since
crossing my fingers and hoping I dodged the bullet, not gonna flash again til ATT comes out with 6.1 then if it acts up even a little I am gonna send it in for warranty repair.
I hope this procedure works for you mate.
pedro2k said:
I live in WI and travel to rural areas where there is no 3g. I have experienced this same problem when I loose the signal from a 3g area to a non 3g area as it reacquires the signal. I did all the recommended fixes with bandswitch and activesync but to no avail. However, I did this about a week ago, and my problem seem to have disappeared
Go to advance config>data connections>gprs auto attach
disable it
I think the phone goes beserk when it doesn't find the 3g signal?
Try it and please report back if it works
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Not exactly sure where this setting is, the closest thing I could find was to install HTweakC. And now I have auto attach off. I also live in WI rural area, and 3G has been growing. Coming closer my home, and when I go to work it switches to 3G from Edge and I believe this is the biggest cause of this problem. I will let everyone know if this has helped me or not.
Thanks pedro for your suggestion. I will try that and will report back.
Hello, long time lurker here finally posting
I got the Touch Dual 2 days ago on Orange, and so far ive been pretty perplexed by the reception. It is consistently 1 or 2 bars lower than my old Blue Angel that i have sat next to it, and it loses signal at work in places where my previous TyTn never did. The main problem however seems to be regaining signal after losing it. It will stay offline for literally hours...the only fix is to switch it off and on again, and even that doesnt always work. The strange thing here is the 3G icon comes back up instantly and it will go online even though it cant make/receive calls.
Is it a dud handset, something wrong with the network or can anyone shed any light on the matter? I really want to avoid getting a replacement from Orange as i have already had 5 refurbished TyTn's since Christmas that were all faulty.
have you flashed a different radio to it or left it with the original?
I had flashed the latest from NetRunnerAT folder but started having the same problems, reflashing the original sorted it out
happen the same to me,
i change the config to gsm only. that helps.
still im looking for a signal booster cos i think its a touch dual matter.
maybe it can help a little. at least thats what i heard. im thinking about a generation x.
dont know yet.
what u think?
erkv said:
happen the same to me,
i change the config to gsm only. that helps.
still im looking for a signal booster cos i think its a touch dual matter.
maybe it can help a little. at least thats what i heard. im thinking about a generation x.
dont know yet.
what u think?
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ha...changing to GSM only jumped the signal from 1 bar to the full 4. Kind of annoying such a small thing should make such a huge difference
Thanks for the tip!
I think this is more to do with HTC phone as I have a nokia which when side by side with my touch the nokia gets a full 3g signal and the touch only get 2 bars.
I also had the problem that it takes ages to pick up a signal after being in flight mode or doesnt pick up a signal at all. Anyway I ended up sending it to HTC for reapir (for this and many other problems) have just got it back from repair and they said the replaced the mainboard but it does seem to be picking up a signal now.
Having strange problems with my Hermes. It has problems maintaining connection to the network, sometimes it will go for days without issue and then won't connect at all. It then takes multiple battery removal/reboots to get it to work again.
It is a Hermes 300, originally from T-Mobile, now unlocked using Vodafone. I am running Schaps_WM6Pro_Hermes_4.31_WWE_Full using radio 1.41
I do occasionally get the NO GSM message on startup but not always and sometimes it works, despite the NO GSM error. I think I solve the problem by trying a new radio rom, but the problem creeps back in after a few days.
Any ideas?
Same issue with mine - I think its hardware related not software. Tried disassembly, reassembly - sometimes works for a stretch then dies. Leave battery out sometimes brings it back for a short time. Question: does your front dPad work - the front directional keys - phone pickup/hangup? Tried reflashing a new ROM but this can get tricky because the rom update will hang if the NO GSM error is encountered upon bootup during the flash - as it can't flash a radio where it think it doesn't exist. This seems to be a bug in the update flash software - it should see if it can find a radio then flash - not try to continue to flash when it can't find one. This fix would probably prevent a bricked phone although if it can't find a GSM radio the phone is probably toast anyway.
Yeah, my dpad works just fine, only faults are with the radio. I have been trying different things that I think work for awhile but then see to not be the case like turning off 3G or HSDPA..... in the end the same fault returns.
Problem is, I don't know when it happens if it's in standby. Miss calls and get no SMS to tell me I have a message.
I started sensing problems when my bluetooth headset was on. While driving I would start hearing beeps indicating a loss of signal. Sure enough I looked on the screen and saw the ! with .... hunting for a signal. Turn the phone off and one and the NO GSM message popped up. Fortunately my housing and screen are in mint condition so I'll search out for a really beat up but working donor and swap the board. Unfortunately on eBay even the really destroyed HERMES are even pretty pricey. If it weren't for the driver problem on the Kaiser I'd spring for one of those being that the Hermes does seem to have its problems. Hate the Fuze as it looks and feels very cheap = not that durable.
I have 2 HD2's running android 2.3.5 using the CyanogenMod-7-09222011-Nightly-Desire[TyphooN_v3.6.5-MAGDLR build#GRJ90
My phone never has any issues, but my wifes phone has crappy signal. 2 bars to no bars to no network at all.
I looked at every setting on both phones and noticed her radio was an older version. Ah Ha! I said. Let me flash it with the same version I have and that will be fixed. NOPE.
My basband version is 15.42.50.11U_2.15.50.14
hers I forgot, I know it was a lot older.
So I downloaded the radio (same as what I'm using) and booted into the 3 color screen 2.08.HSPL. From there I connected her phone to my computer and ran "CustomRUU.exe" with the RUU_signed.nhb file.
It went to 100% and all seemed to be fine. It rebooted and I can look into the settings/about phone and now the baseband versions are identical.
But hers still has the crappy signal, most of the time.
I've downloaded older radios and tried them 4 different ones and all act the exact same way as hers did in the beggining.
Now I don't know what to do. I've even started from scratch. Using HD2 NAND toolkit wipedTask29, reinstallled MAGLDR v1.03 by Cotulla and HSPL.
Not sure if anyone needs anymore info to help me.
I've searched and searched and no one seems to have this issue.
Could it be a ROM? Did something not flash correctly?
I am a NOOB but have friends who walk me and taught me these things and even they are confused.
Thanks.
Turn off that better device (or only wifi), check does second works better.
Or replace places of devices.. maybe something disturbance signal.
At last.. maybe try other, older radio - newer not means best.
done that. Since I'm at working with one SIM card as I'm testing, my other (good) phone is turned off.
Also tried older radios.
I also just noticed that instead of "H" or "3G" or "E"(edge) i get a "G" for my data. Just to add to the other crazy stuff.
If you search in the android general section there is a post about how there are a few little connectors between the main board and the phone body that of the phone has been dropped or taken apart can lose their connection leading to poor reception. I'll see if I can locate it and post you a link.
And here you go, check it out.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1190180
Sent from my HTC Desire HD A9191 using XDA App
I had the same exact problem with my phone. I researched it and finally found the answer here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1190180
It worked wonders.
Wow, Thanks so much, I will try that.
It's funny, before I read this I was messing with her phone and it fell backwards and the signal jumped up. Unfortunatly it didn't last long.
I also noticed the way she puts her phone in her back pocket!. She did this with her old iPhone (which is a lot more rigid) with no issues.
Now I'm guessing that she bent it to the point where as you have found that the contacts are not making good contact.
I'll try this fix and reply what I find.
Thanks a million again
steviie8, click the above link and try it for yourself, it really works ! I fixed mine in 15 mins and now my weak signal HD2 gets full bars, miracle has happened
It worked!!!
Thanks guys,
Unfortunately, I snapped the one contact off, I resoldered it worked fine.
Unfortunately, in the process of dismantling, I cracked the LCD.
I put everything back together and see a nice black circle in the corner.
I'm on my way to get the new part. So let that be a lesson to all of you, When they say the contacts are weak and easy to snap off, they mean it.
My problem from the LCD was do to not having the proper plastic tool to take the phone apart. Live and Learn.
just wondering, why should i flash a radio?
i read that its risky and could brick so i've always stayed away from it...
latley i've been getting crappy service indoors at home but great service outside
i'm using glacier one V 1.3 as my primary rom (skytouch 4g as a secondary through boot manager)
-if this matters-
if i should or need to flash a radio, which one should i ?
as far as i know, i have the same one that comes w/ stock MT4G 2.3.4... i've never touched a radio lol
only ROMs
this isn't a major issue where immidiate help is needed, just trying to get alittle info before i do anything SHTUPiD
Signal degradation that happens with time, can happen out of 2 reasons:
1) Physical contact of pins on the main board with phone antenna.
2) Cellular carrier tower changes.
In both cases radio won't help you. In the best case it'll improve things a bit, normally it probably won't matter.