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[CLOSED/DZ] Stock Android > All

Hardware aside, I'm willing to sell my Vibrant for this phone for the simple fact the G2 will have stock android. I'm getting very close to the point where I will not support phones that do not ship with stock android. Seeing motoblur or touchwiz makes me sick. The manufacturers might as well design their own OS because that IS NOT ANDROID.
Only T-Mobile has released stock android devices to this day (in the US). This could set T-Mobile higher than the competition if they would just release more stock phones. The first MyTouch ran on vanilla android so why can't the new one do the same?
I'm really looking forward to the G2. Looks like a great business phone. The keyboard looks great (could be better with a 5th row) and the z-hinge will be a cool addition. This thing is going to have incredible developer support just like the G1. Why do you think so many G1 owners still use that phone? The dev community kept it alive. All of the stock android phones have huge dev support. This one will be no different.
Still disappointed that it only ships with a 1300mAh battery. Even if you can overclock the phone it would be smart not to as it would drain hella fast. Hopefully they will sell 1500-1700mAh batteries that don't make the phone too much thicker.
Can't wait to see actual footage of the phone. Hopefully tomorrow at the HTC event they show it off. I've heard T-Mobile employees who have seen the phone saw its amazingly fast. It better live up to the hype, although for practical use I don't think HSPA+ will be much faster than 3G at this point.

Arcadia310 said:
Hardware aside, I'm willing to sell my Vibrant for this phone for the simple fact the G2 will have stock android. I'm getting very close to the point where I will not support phones that do not ship with stock android. Seeing motoblur or touchwiz makes me sick. The manufacturers might as well design their own OS because that IS NOT ANDROID.
Only T-Mobile has released stock android devices to this day (in the US). This could set T-Mobile higher than the competition if they would just release more stock phones. The first MyTouch ran on vanilla android so why can't the new one do the same?
I'm really looking forward to the G2. Looks like a great business phone. The keyboard looks great (could be better with a 5th row) and the z-hinge will be a cool addition. This thing is going to have incredible developer support just like the G1. Why do you think so many G1 owners still use that phone? The dev community kept it alive. All of the stock android phones have huge dev support. This one will be no different.
Still disappointed that it only ships with a 1300mAh battery. Even if you can overclock the phone it would be smart not to as it would drain hella fast. Hopefully they will sell 1500-1700mAh batteries that don't make the phone too much thicker.
Can't wait to see actual footage of the phone. Hopefully tomorrow at the HTC event they show it off. I've heard T-Mobile employees who have seen the phone saw its amazingly fast. It better live up to the hype, although for practical use I don't think HSPA+ will be much faster than 3G at this point.
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I agree. I cant wait for the G2. Ive been a G1 owner the past 2 yrs. Cant wait to upgrade. Oh by the way, the Droid 1 had stock android.

actually i can vouch for the HSPA+ speeds, on 3G my mytouch slide was getting just under 1Mbps and when they flipped on the towers around me i started pulling 4-5 Mbps so with the limit of the device set at 14.4 Mbps then i am sure we can get at least 8 possibly more than that(of course it will diminish once more people are on the network just like anything else

Arcadia310 said:
The manufacturers might as well design their own OS because that IS NOT ANDROID.
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That's actually the entire idea behind android.

JCopernicus said:
That's actually the entire idea behind android.
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If that is the Idea then there is no room to ***** about the fragmentation of the OS itself by Google. I for one like the idea of a vanilla platform. As many have stated, this allows for quicker updates of the software, where all the tightly integrated crap like motobelch either causes huge delays, or the updates never come due to development costs. Hats off to t-mobile for this phone and I'm glad I did not jump on the Vibrant even though its a great device.
I just hope I can get it on our corporate plan.

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That's actually the entire idea behind android.
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agree. people should be able to do whatever they want with android. I don't have the expertise to know about licensing and when you can legally profit off of customizing someone else's work, but I think there should be a free market so people can choose what they want. personally, I prefer stock. I'll continue to support handsets that come with stock. but I like how there are other versions. I mean... the same principle that allows android to be modded into sense and touchwiz is the same one that allows Cyanogen to legally release his mods.

stock is awesome cause froyo has built in tethering and hotspot support also allows for faster updates and better compatibility with custom roms.

G2 having vanilla android was the nail in my nexus coffin to Oklahoma thank you ebay.
The G2 is going to be friggin awesome. I cant stay off the computer waiting for the email from T-Mobile.
Edit: sold that baby for 480 buckaroos, had to do it while the gettin's good.

navillos said:
G2 having vanilla android was the nail in my nexus coffin to Oklahoma thank you ebay.
The G2 is going to be friggin awesome. I cant stay off the computer waiting for the email from T-Mobile.
Edit: sold that baby for 480 buckaroos, had to do it while the gettin's good.
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Haha. Sold my Vibrant today for $450!

Actually, the Verizon Motorola Droid 1, and LG Ally run stock android
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Whoareyou said:
Actually, the Verizon Motorola Droid 1, and LG Ally run stock android
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except the original droid was pretty slow and the ally had some proprietary apps and themes on it.

My buddy that has used both phones said the N1 was snappier than the G2 in OS performance. Kind of bummed, they keyboard alone isn't enough for me since I've gotten used to SlideIt but maybe the hspa+ will be enough. I'll be keeping both phones just in case.

burton14e7 said:
My buddy that has used both phones said the N1 was snappier than the G2 in OS performance. Kind of bummed, they keyboard alone isn't enough for me since I've gotten used to SlideIt but maybe the hspa+ will be enough. I'll be keeping both phones just in case.
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could have been an early version and i find that odd since every other report says its supposed to be as fast or faster. its best to just wait and see for yourself. such as with more ram the phone will stay faster longer and multitask better then the n1 also more internal memory so you can have more apps without having to use aps2ext. plus a hardware keyboard is a must for some people though maybe not to you. the point is the nexus is dated in many ways so the g2 will outperform it in the long run. its better to wait until everything is finalized and the product is released then phonescoop and phonearena can do the comparisons with actual video and show which is faster.

agh. just want it to come out so we can run linpack on it and compare it with other phones

mtl171 said:
stock is awesome cause froyo has built in tethering and hotspot support also allows for faster updates and better compatibility with custom roms.
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Here in lies the problem with calling the G2's Android 2.2 "stock" Android.
TMO has removed the wifi hotspot option from the OS.
Can it really be called stock then ?
Seems to me it cant be.
I have 2.2.1 on my Nexus and it has the wifi hotspot.
And its faster than tethering.
So TMO is in my estimation ripping people off calling it stock or vanilla.
Just saying.

going_home said:
Here in lies the problem with calling the G2's Android 2.2 "stock" Android.
TMO has removed the wifi hotspot option from the OS.
Can it really be called stock then ?
Seems to me it cant be.
I have 2.2.1 on my Nexus and it has the wifi hotspot.
And its faster than tethering.
So TMO is in my estimation ripping people off calling it stock or vanilla.
Just saying.
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Yeah, I don't like that they removed the hotspot in their flagship HSPA+ phone. That is insult to injury. I am not even getting > 1MB and am squarely in a HSPA+ area - that, my friends, is the injury.

From nexus one to T-Mobile G2/HTC desire z.

I was thinking. About getting the new T-Mobile g2 when it comes out. Is it worth it to switch. I read that the new processor is even better the samsungs. Do you think. Its worth it?
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Unless you want a keyboard, of course not.
It's 99% the same phone, but with a keyboard.

I would wait until Q1 of 2011 when the dual-core 1.2ghz phones come out. Or at least that is what I am doing.

I know there are alot of similarities but i keep hearing that the phone has better battery a faster processor, and faster speeds in HSPA+ also witha keyboard. since I mainly use it for texting i find it hard to find a reason especialy since sliders are rare in android unless your on Verizon.(Tmobile) to not get it aside form the fact that in 3-4 months there will be alot of better dual core phones.

metalhead8816 said:
I would wait until Q1 of 2011 when the dual-core 1.2ghz phones come out. Or at least that is what I am doing.
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I highly doubt dual cores will be out that quick. It would be nice tho
Paul: its actually a very different phone, scorpion processor with adreno 205, big improvement on snapdragon
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I'd switch in a heartbeat if I had a job to pay for it, if the device is as open as our beloved N1, and if the 3G was triband. We didn't read the final spec sheet but IIRC the 3G is only dual-band, making it impossible for us Europeans to roam to the USA.
That's pretty sad for such an awesome HSPA+ phone. But maybe the spec sheet I found is wrong and the radio actually IS triband!

G0belet said:
I'd switch in a heartbeat if I had a job to pay for it, if the device is as open as our beloved N1, and if the 3G was triband. We didn't read the final spec sheet but IIRC the 3G is only dual-band, making it impossible for us Europeans to roam to the USA.
That's pretty sad for such an awesome HSPA+ phone. But maybe the spec sheet I found is wrong and the radio actually IS triband!
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more importantly, it doesn't have vanilla android because you get some seperate preinstalled apps like swype. So you won't get Android updates as early as Nexus One Users with stock android. This is a KO criteria for me. I want to get the updates first, as soon as google rolls them out, and not wait for tmobile to release them.

Why is it that vanilla Android cannot be installed on a TMo phone?

I'm getting one. Sexy phone. To me, at least.

The phone is not that close to a nexus, the g 2 will run much faster than the nexus with second gen chipset and supports faster speeds, better battery life, keyboard and handles flash better its def a decent upgrade and its sexy
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metalhead8816 said:
I would wait until Q1 of 2011 when the dual-core 1.2ghz phones come out. Or at least that is what I am doing.
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Agreed. The specs are too close to the N1 to try to ride out for a year(I know I can't go two years with the same phone so I try to get something that won't leave me mad for more than 6 months as new hardware comes out.) 5mp camera? No sale. I'm waiting for a dual core, higher megapixels, HD out, 720p video and a coupon for a half-price on a hooker.

RellikZephyr said:
I highly doubt dual cores will be out that quick. It would be nice tho
Paul: its actually a very different phone, scorpion processor with adreno 205, big improvement on snapdragon
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Mytouch HD is coming out this year and has dual snapdragon processors.

I want to see some benchmarks and reviews before getting the G2. The N1 is still a great phone.

I will be waiting for something that has specs like the rumored HD7.. dual core 1.2g processors and 4.3-4.5 inch screen and 1g of ram. When i see this I will make the switch

I would wait for reviews before upgrading. At least that's what I'm going to do.
I may hold out until after the myTouch HD comes out. Because I'm wondering how many other dual core will follow for TMobile. I'm thinking TMobile may not see any other nicer higher end phones than the G2 and myT HD until Fall of 2011.

Shahpur.Azizpour said:
more importantly, it doesn't have vanilla android because you get some seperate preinstalled apps like swype. So you won't get Android updates as early as Nexus One Users with stock android. This is a KO criteria for me. I want to get the updates first, as soon as google rolls them out, and not wait for tmobile to release them.
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Preinstalled Apps, such as Swype, run on top of Vanilla Android. There is a very small modification that we make to the framework to make Swype work properly, but this is not nearly the same as complete frameworks like TouchWiz or SenseUI. Those types of frameworks need to be heavily modified to maintain compatibility with each release. In many ways, it is the driver support that holds back rapid rollouts for different phones, Vanilla Android or not. If the kernel is a new version, those drivers need to be recompiled and perhaps rewritten, and those come from the OEMs and their suppliers.

Quantumstate said:
Why is it that vanilla Android cannot be installed on a TMo phone?
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What are you talking about?
G1, MyTouch 3G, MyTouch Slide, Nexus One, and HD2(these are the only ones off the top of my head) all have vanilla ported onto them.

The Nexus one, Mytouch 3g, and g1 have always had vanilla android.

Godammit, this is why I'm asking. If Cyanogenmod can be installed on these other phones, why is there so much crowing about how the N1 is special? WTF is it that makes the N1 better than the others, from a software perspective? This is what I am trying to find out, but nobody seems to actually know, in their conscious mind anyway.

Quantumstate said:
, this is why I'm asking. If Cyanogenmod can be installed on these other phones, why is there so much crowing about how the N1 is special? WTF is it that makes the N1 better than the others, from a software perspective? This is what I am trying to find out, but nobody seems to actually know, in their conscious mind anyway.
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if you'll notice, the majority of folks are not crowing about the nexus from a software perspective, or any android based phone for that matter... the big deal is (ok WAS) the hardware.
each time a new android based phone is released, people don't get excited about android version 2.x.x.x, they want the HARDWARE because in most cases if it ships android, it can run any version android. the hardware makes a huge difference.
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Nexus s

The samsung nexus phone or whatever is stupid. Samsung messed up a chance to innovate. Its just ANOTHER galaxy s -_- well, according to all the rumors, atleast.
The good thing is I have faith in the devs to port gingerbread to epic fairly fast
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I really hope this is gonna go to sprint. I've been disappointed with their keyboard-toting phones, the moment left me with a stale taste in my mouth and the Epic 4g, while a great phone, has a horrible physical keyboard..(atleast to me). I find myself using the on screen keyboard 99% of the time.
Phandroid Nexus S link

scriz said:
I really hope this is gonna go to sprint. I've been disappointed with their keyboard-toting phones, the moment left me with a stale taste in my mouth and the Epic 4g, while a great phone, has a horrible physical keyboard..(atleast to me). I find myself using the on screen keyboard 99% of the time.
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Whats wrong with the keyboard?!? I think its awesome, minus the occasional missed key that I know I pressed.....

Kcarpenter said:
Whats wrong with the keyboard?!? I think its awesome, minus the occasional missed key that I know I pressed.....
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Yeah, that and think the HTC_IMEmod that I have installed makes the virtual keyboard experience much better, although I would really prefer the DroidX multitouch keyboard, but it doesn't auto-unclick shift or function after you press the key you want :O
I don't "mind" the physical keyboard, per-se..idk..just personal preference really lol.
EDIT: Also, theres this that just came about..
http://phandroid.com/2010/10/29/samsung-gt-i9010-hits-the-fcc-what-is-it/
^-- i'm really hoping this is the Nexus S and not the Continuum..because the Continuum is an ugly mofo and is going to Verizon

scriz said:
I really hope this is gonna go to sprint. I've been disappointed with their keyboard-toting phones, the moment left me with a stale taste in my mouth and the Epic 4g, while a great phone, has a horrible physical keyboard..(atleast to me). I find myself using the on screen keyboard 99% of the time.
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I agree.... I'd drop my epic in a heartbeat to get the exact same phone without a keyboard that's updated by google instead of Samsung...
I really wanted the captivate anyway but was dragged into Sprint because of my family.

snowmanwithahat said:
I agree.... I'd drop my epic in a heartbeat to get the exact same phone without a keyboard that's updated by google instead of Samsung...
I really wanted the captivate anyway but was dragged into Sprint because of my family.
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I really wish Sprint was like Cricket and allowed other carriers phones on their network, I'd pick up a Mesmerize/Fascinate in a heart beat.

scriz said:
I really wish Sprint was like Cricket and allowed other carriers phones on their network, I'd pick up a Mesmerize/Fascinate in a heart beat.
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Yeh, I'd kill to be able to pick and choose which phone goes on what carrier. i realize technology limitations are in place (GSM, CDMA, and their 3g variants) but I would absolutely love to be able to have had a nexus one when they came out.... I'm hoping this Nexus S or whatever they are going to call it, contrary to the first post, is EXACTLY LIKE A GALAXY S, only running stock android, and supported by google. I don't know what more you could ask for

snowmanwithahat said:
I'm hoping this Nexus S or whatever they are going to call it, contrary to the first post, is EXACTLY LIKE A GALAXY S, only running stock android, and supported by google. I don't know what more you could ask for
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How about a GPS that just works? So far Samsung has failed to produce that on its Galaxy S variants. That is not Google's fault, nor the carriers' fault. It is poor Samsung firmware (unless there are also Samsung hardware issues we don't know about). Sammy will have to overcome this negative history before I buy another Android made by them.

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How about a GPS that just works? So far Samsung has failed to produce that on its Galaxy S variants. That is not Google's fault, nor the carriers' fault. It is poor Samsung firmware (unless there are also Samsung hardware issues we don't know about). Sammy will have to overcome this negative history before I buy another Android made by them.
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Mine works fine. Not the most accurate GPS, but fine for driving and locks near instantly.

snowmanwithahat said:
I agree.... I'd drop my epic in a heartbeat to get the exact same phone without a keyboard that's updated by google instead of Samsung...
I really wanted the captivate anyway but was dragged into Sprint because of my family.
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I don't think it's going to be the same phone without a keyboard. I've read that it has better/newer hardware on the inside as well. (1.2 GHZ CPU)
http://androidandme.com/2010/10/phones/samsung-nexus-two-gt-i9010-clears-the-fcc/

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I don't think it's going to be the same phone without a keyboard. I've read that it has better/newer hardware on the inside as well. (1.2 GHZ CPU)
http://androidandme.com/2010/10/phones/samsung-nexus-two-gt-i9010-clears-the-fcc/
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How much you wanna bet its the same processor already in the galaxy s phones just oced out the box. Look at the history if intel and under clocking there processors to charge x amount of money for a faster processor that end s up being the same
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mysteryemotionz said:
How much you wanna bet its the same processor already in the galaxy s phones just oced out the box. Look at the history if intel and under clocking there processors to charge x amount of money for a faster processor that end s up being the same
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I was hoping for dual core.

The main thing they need to add is a camera flash. Most of the galaxy s phones lacked them, which was a huge let down.

jivemaster said:
The main thing they need to add is a camera flash. Most of the galaxy s phones lacked them, which was a huge let down.
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My galaxy s has one lol
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my guess is the i9010 is probably a Galaxy S in white or something...lol..or maybe the Super LCD version...
Even if the Galaxy S spec wise is better by a decent margin over the Nexus one..it would not make sense to make it a developer phone unless it is planned for the next gen...The next gen will have dual cores...so it would make sense if it was a dual core..
wasn't gingerbread suppose to allow Cortex A9 support? so it would make sense for testers to test their apps on a Cortex A9 phone....maybe with dual core support. (I'm personally thinking it might be the Orion CPU and maybe Orion shares some stuff with the Tegra 2 aka just like Intricacy did Hummignbird I think Nvidia had a part in the Orion)
As for choosing samsung...it makes sense..out of all the manufacturers..who can get your phone on 125 carriers in 110 countries? including the top 6 carriers in the US?
As for the GPS, I'm pretty sure Google will be working more closely with Samsung to make sure it doesn't happen...even though my GPS on my Epic seems to work fine :/

If it doesn't have a keyboard it isn't worth a dime.
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Samsung denies Nexus whatever rumors.
http://phandroid.com/2010/11/01/samsung-denies-nexus-two-rumors/

Hero usability?

Hey guys, I want to pickup a new phone. I'm not interested in paying the 4G tax, and I just need something simple for my Sprint line.
Phone will be used for calls and wifi tether only. Given these circumstances, would I be frustrated with the speed of this device? I'll probably install the aosp 2.21 rom.

For those needs, I would have to probably recommend the Optimus S. Runs 2.2 out of the box, better processor, has a GPU, etc.

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For those needs, I would have to probably recommend the Optimus S. Runs 2.2 out of the box, better processor, has a GPU, etc.
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I agree with this. Yes, the Hero will be fine for those needs, but there are still better options.

Didn't catch the release of that one. Wad thinking Pre as alternative. I'll check it out. Thanks!

D3FAULT said:
I agree with this. Yes, the Hero will be fine for those needs, but there are still better options.
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I second this. The LG Optimus S blows the Hero out of the water, even with the stock ROM and stock settings. I just got one today and I love it. I might actually hold off on rooting it for awhile, that's how good it is! I don't even need a task killer on it

I just tried out the Optimus.. I do like it, but there's no flash! Which sucks. But I may go with the Optimus.
One last question.
In terms of speed, could you rank these devices?
Pre, Hero, Optimus, Transform, Touch Pro 2. I included the TP2 because I hear it can be overclocked now. May make a difference.
Thanks!!

The Hero doesn't have native flash, either If anything will get Flash though, it would be the Optimus due to the better processing power.
In terms of speed: Optimus, Pre, Transform, Hero. I don't know much about the TP2.
The Optimus, believe it or not (due to the lower price), was MUCH snappier than the Transform. The Pre was decent, but AFAIK, Sprint doesn't really support the Pre anymore.

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The Hero doesn't have native flash, either If anything will get Flash though, it would be the Optimus due to the better processing power.
In terms of speed: Optimus, Pre, Transform, Hero. I don't know much about the TP2.
The Optimus, believe it or not (due to the lower price), was MUCH snappier than the Transform. The Pre was decent, but AFAIK, Sprint doesn't really support the Pre anymore.
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You are awesome. Thank you mrinehart!

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You are awesome. Thank you mrinehart!
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No problem, sir! BTW, consider buying the phone at Best Buy. I just bought my Optimus there, and they are so much better than the Sprint store (and you can get the Best Buy insurance instead of the crappy Sprint one).

classic, now were directing people away from buying a hero.. lmao! xda needs an optimus s section and quick!

Crap, now I'm accidentally giving Thanks to people haha. Darn this new layout.
Anyways yeah, I don't see why we would want to direct people to a more expensive, but less-powerful and lag-filled phone... The Optimus is free or $50 (depending where you get it), and it's so much better than the Hero. Plus it has Android 2.2 native

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Crap, now I'm accidentally giving Thanks to people haha. Darn this new layout.
Anyways yeah, I don't see why we would want to direct people to a more expensive, but less-powerful and lag-filled phone... The Optimus is free or $50 (depending where you get it), and it's so much better than the Hero. Plus it has Android 2.2 native
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im wondering how long it will be before xda moves the hero to the legacy section? at this rate i assume very soon.

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im wondering how long it will be before xda moves the hero to the legacy section? at this rate i assume very soon.
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I hope it's soon... people should just move on ASAP. There really is no reason not to upgrade since the Optimus S is so cheap but powerful.

Some ppl still love the hero like me its the perfect design for a phone it could be a little faster but it has a very wide range of roms to choose from and still has a few active devs aosp your the best!
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Sprint's Motorola Photon 4G available July 31 for $199 on contract

http://www.androidcentral.com/sprints-motorola-photon-4g-available-july-31-199-contract
I'm waiting on the SG2 but for all you Photon fans

Meh. I think it looks ugly and MOTOBLUR just makes it that much more undesirable.

CDKJudoka said:
Meh. I think it looks ugly and MOTOBLUR just makes it that much more undesirable.
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The locked bootloader makes it undesirable.
They unlock that and we could possibly talk.

I'm not considering it but I do like it's angular design & the kickstand.

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The locked bootloader makes it undesirable
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Yeah that was something I forgot to mention.

Motorola Android phones on Verizon test well in battery life on anandtech.com. Hopefully this will be the same for their Sprint phones.
I'm probably going to save my upgrade for the next Nexus phone.
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Im a former DroidX and Droid 2 owner and as far as hardware, Moto does it right. Best battery life and radios of any other phones ive had. I think Moto will follow through and unlock bootloaders later this year. So ill be getting a Photon on launch day.

mikeyinid said:
Im a former DroidX and Droid 2 owner and as far as hardware, Moto does it right. Best battery life and radios of any other phones ive had. I think Moto will follow through and unlock bootloaders later this year. So ill be getting a Photon on launch day.
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Are you going to make a Rom for it once the bootloader is unlocked? Thinking about getting this phone.
I had the NS4G and really liked your rom, but had to return the phone because of the dropped calls.
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I heard they had no plans on opening / unlocking the Photon ... ?
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conqu1stador said:
I heard they had no plans on opening / unlocking the Photon ... ?
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Motorola pretty much said the same thing as HTC. They will be unlocking bootloaders later this year. But, Moto also said it will be up to the carrier. Im almost certain Sprint will go with unlocked...Not to mention the Atrix has been hacked and they now have unlocked bootloaders.

Yeah, I remember hearing Moto say as much but also remember seeing, 'somewhere', that the plans didn't include the Photon even though it was a 'future' device. If I remember where, I'd hunt it down. It might not have been official but I am certain it was a Moto statement. It was a while ago ... hope it isn't the case as I know some folks are pretty interested in the device.
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mquinn24 said:
Are you going to make a Rom for it once the bootloader is unlocked? Thinking about getting this phone.
I had the NS4G and really liked your rom, but had to return the phone because of the dropped calls.
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I had to return mine too :/ But I will get another soon. I will probably do something on the Photon, probably very basic though, i.e. debloat and maybe change a few of the awful blur/gb images lol.

mikeyinid said:
I had to return mine too :/ But I will get another soon. I will probably do something on the Photon, probably very basic though, i.e. debloat and maybe change a few of the awful blur/gb images lol.
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Sweet, that's all I ask for
Props to the SGII (if does make it stateside) but I think people are going to be pleasantly surprised with the Photon.
Immediate pro's I see are:
- better signal (not a given but Moto's track record suggests it might be)
- dedicated camera button like the the 3D (I know you can shortcut it from the
home screen but it's note the same as a hardware button)
- kickstand since I don't use a case and love to pop it out for the kids to watch
movies while we're out to eat
- accessories (like the car dock) and provided HDMI cable
- higher resolution screen means more screenspace
- world phone for the possible yearly trip abroad
Likely con's:
- motoblur although having given up HTC Sense I've found I like stock android
better with my aged hero
- non AMOLED screen (SGII evidently rocks)
- initial locked bootloader
- older Tegra 2 when Tegra 3 is evidently due out later this year and is 5x faster
Anxious to see how it stacks up head to head in testing with the 3D since spec wise that things a beast.

Also doesn't have the newer 800MHz band that Sprint is migrating to.. other FCC passed phones starting with the EVO 3D have this. They're supposed to start the migration at the end of the year. It'll be a long process, but it should help with coverage down the road.

spaulding-grandmaster said:
Sweet, that's all I ask for
Props to the SGII (if does make it stateside) but I think people are going to be pleasantly surprised with the Photon.
Immediate pro's I see are:
- better signal (not a given but Moto's track record suggests it might be)
- dedicated camera button like the the 3D (I know you can shortcut it from the
home screen but it's note the same as a hardware button)
- kickstand since I don't use a case and love to pop it out for the kids to watch
movies while we're out to eat
- accessories (like the car dock) and provided HDMI cable
- higher resolution screen means more screenspace
- world phone for the possible yearly trip abroad
Likely con's:
- motoblur although having given up HTC Sense I've found I like stock android
better with my aged hero
- non AMOLED screen (SGII evidently rocks)
- initial locked bootloader
- older Tegra 2 when Tegra 3 is evidently due out later this year and is 5x faster
Anxious to see how it stacks up head to head in testing with the 3D since spec wise that things a beast.
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Stock, the Photon should beat the 3D in all benchmarks, the Atrix does. And the screen is actually very nice on these new dual core Motos. Granted, its not samoled, but still nice none the less.

It's possible it won't, but this will likely have a Pentile display too, so it won't be quite as sharp as the EVO 3D's display.

I'm excited for the phone, but i don't want to wait for and upgrade, i guess ill just have to pony up the dough (im guessing around $600?) haha

The more I see about this phone the more I like it. Looks a lot like the EVO to me. More than the 3D does. The dock option is just wicked with the tablet like interface and USB ability. My phone is mostly for business so it has some better features for me. Would be nice to have a phone with better battery life without having to rely on extended battery.
I was going to wait for the SGS2 also but by the time it hits Sprint other devices will beat the pants off it as far as speed goes. Hear quad core processors are in the works for maybe even Q4 of this year.
Still on the fence about burning my upgrade.

jreuschl said:
Also doesn't have the newer 800MHz band that Sprint is migrating to.. other FCC passed phones starting with the EVO 3D have this. They're supposed to start the migration at the end of the year. It'll be a long process, but it should help with coverage down the road.
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So what is the 800Mhz listed here?
Bands/Modes
WiMAX 2.5, WCDMA 850/1900/2100, CDMA 800/1900, GSM 850/900/1900, CDMA EV-DO Release A, EDGE Class 12, GPRS Class 12
taken from http://mediacenter.motorola.com/Fact-Sheets/Motorola-PHOTON-4G-Fact-Sheet-36f3.aspx

CCallahan said:
The more I see about this phone the more I like it. Looks a lot like the EVO to me. More than the 3D does. The dock option is just wicked with the tablet like interface and USB ability. My phone is mostly for business so it has some better features for me. Would be nice to have a phone with better battery life without having to rely on extended battery.
I was going to wait for the SGS2 also but by the time it hits Sprint other devices will beat the pants off it as far as speed goes. Hear quad core processors are in the works for maybe even Q4 of this year.
Still on the fence about burning my upgrade.
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I agree. With quad cores possibly coming out late this year and the rumors of the Nexus Prime, really hate to get a Tegra 2 based phone. Then again, any technology buy is going to be dated the moment it's in your hands and thus as long as it does what I want it for which for me appears the Photon just might, it's probably better to get a phone sooner rather than later so that the upgrade timer becomes eligible again sooner