Update:
Engadget found the FCC filing: no at&t 3G.
That's a big FAIL on google's part. What's the point of selling the phone unlocked if you can only use it with one carrier?
FAIL!
http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/14/htc-nexus-one-blessed-by-the-fcc-with-t-mobile-and-att-huspa/
Update 2:
Could this be the first at&t android device?
http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/16/motorola-backflip-enzo-bringing-android-contortions-to-atandt/
Mmmmhhh. Plenty of rumors today that Google will shortly release an unlocked android phone (HTC hardware).
Apparently, employees received the phone at a Friday event.
Might even come with at&t AND US t-mobile 3G (so quad-band 3G?).
http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/12/google-employees-given-htc-made-google-phones/
http://googlemobile.blogspot.com/2009/12/android-dogfood-diet-for-holidays.html
http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/12/12/google-phone-unlocked-confirmed/
Last night, we started seeing some Tweets from Google employees and others about a new Android-powered Google phone that was apparently handed out at an “all hands” meeting. Now Google is confirming that it is indeed “dogfood” testing a new Android device with employees around the world.
But this isn’t just another Android phone. Very trustworthy sources who have seen the phone say that it is the Google Phone we first wrote about last month (despite the uninformed saying we were dreaming). It will be branded Google and sold by Google as an unlocked phone, which could change everything. As we wrote in our original post:
Google is building their own branded phone that they’ll sell directly and through retailers. They were long planning to have the phone be available by the holidays, but it has now slipped to early 2010. The phone will be produced by a major phone manufacturer but will only have Google branding (Microsoft did the same thing with their first Zunes, which were built by Toshiba).
There won’t be any negotiation or compromise over the phone’s design of features – Google is dictating every last piece of it. No splintering of the Android OS that makes some applications unusable. Like the iPhone for Apple, this phone will be Google’s pure vision of what a phone should be.
The phone itself is being built by HTC, with a lot of input from Google. It seems to be a tailored version of the HTC Passion or the related HD2 (Unlocker scored some leaked picturesback in October which are of the same phone).
Here are the details we know so far about the phone: It will be called the Google Phone and will launch in early January, 2010. It won’t be sold by any one carrier, but instead will be an unlocked GSM phone. In the U.S., that means T-Mobile and possibly AT&T, whose exclusivity deal with the iPhone is about to run out. It will be running Android 2.1
The phone is “really, really fast,” says someone who has seen one in action. It runs on a Snapdragon chip, has a super high-resolution OLED touchscreen, is thinner than the iPhone, has no keyboard, and two mics. The mic on the back of the phone helps eliminate background noise, and it also has a “weirdly” large camera for a phone. And if you don’t like the touchscreen keyboard, a voice-to-text feature is supposed to let you dictate emails and notes by speaking directly into the phone.
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That would be very cool Looks like Google will be the exclusive seller with these unlocked!
I should have this phone (aka "Nexus One") in my hands on Monday
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I should have this phone (aka "Nexus One") in my hands on Monday
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And how is that? U work for Google?
galaxys said:
And how is that? U work for Google?
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connections...connections.
HTC Bravo
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http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/12/12/nexus-one-google-phone-picture/
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Same phone just different versions. I'm guessing Bravo will remain the htc version/name which will prolly be released in europe in april while nexus might be google's name and maybe passion will be what some carriers might call it. Seems like it'll be for Tmobile's 3g so it will work on At&t's Edge at least (maybe 3g too if they added the frequency); which does make sense since the first android phone was produced by htc and went to tmobile. If these rumors come to fruition, tmobile will finally have a phone to brag about. I'm sure everything will be clear by CES the latest (though I wouldn't be suprised if they'd make an announcement before the end of the year.)
i wonder where all the hype comes from.
we already had a device which was made by htc based on googles requirements. it was called tmobile G1.
So this is nothing more than a successor for me. Also i wonder what stuff like "this time google is responsible for the whole user experience" means.
Android is from Google, and as far as i know they did it on themselves since day 1. Nobody told them what to do. So how much more "own google experience" can the new device be, compared to the other "with Google" devices which also were based on Googles own Android?!
Well maybe HTC will provide some kind of google sense ui to make the user interface prettier.
But as it stands now i would prefer a HTC device like the HTC Bravo with HTC Sense to any google only device. If Google manages to overhaul the UI on some apps like the contact app, this might change of course. But i'm not sure if google can pull that off, HTC has some more years experience in this regard.
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If these rumors come to fruition, tmobile will finally have a phone to brag about.
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tmobile has the IPhone aka "bragging rights device" in germany...
Wonder if it will run the Sense UI or will google slap Vanilla Android 2.? on this phone...
Nexus One
I really hope that it has Sense UI. Google has to be able to realize that HTC's take on their home screens is much better than the original design.
Nexus One is very cool. It comes with a 5MP camera with flash. I'm loving it so far.
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Wonder if it will run the Sense UI or will google slap Vanilla Android 2.? on this phone...
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It runs Eclair 2.1 w/ Nexus UI.
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It runs Eclair 2.1 w/ Nexus UI.
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Nexus UI?
Looks like standard android to me =/
Well they tagged it as the Nexus UI. I don't know what's new until tomorrow.
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Well they tagged it as the Nexus UI. I don't know what's new until tomorrow.
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nexus..as in sony ericsson's x10 with nexus? i doubt that SE would be giving their UI out. its just called the nexus one.
looks hot tho, can't wait to pick it up.
and if you really are taking a look at it tomorrow. think you could post impressions, specs, etc?
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nexus..as in sony ericsson's x10 with nexus? i doubt that SE would be giving their UI out. its just called the nexus one.
looks hot tho, can't wait to pick it up.
and if you really are taking a look at it tomorrow. think you could post impressions, specs, etc?
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The x10 has Timescape/MediaScape/Rachel UI?
google nexus ux (ux=user experience)
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and if you really are taking a look at it tomorrow. think you could post impressions, specs, etc?
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Not only going to look at it, I gonna get it. Early X-Mas for me. I can't say much...sorry. Phone is bounded to an NDA.
EDIT: My mistake, it's a UX, not a UI.
maybe it will have the ability to switch UI's, like the user would get the option to buy UI's.. like sense or rachel or motoblur...
probably not but that would be really cool
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Rather disappointing that Apple managed to get the iphone 4 and iOS 4 out the door before android 2.2.
And what's wrong with google that they can't publish deadline.
No wonder developers prefer iOS: Apple can be relied on. Google is just unreliable and all over the map.
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Rather disappointing that Apple managed to get the iphone 4 and iOS 4 out the door before android 2.2.
And what's wrong with google that they can't publish deadline.
No wonder developers prefer iOS: Apple can be relied on. Google is just unreliable and all over the map.
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IOS4 was shown back near the end of 2009, and it took them 6 months to get it released, we just saw 2.2 at google IO, it hasnt even been much more then a month yet.
Blueman101 said:
IOS4 was shown back near the end of 2009, and it took them 6 months to get it released, we just saw 2.2 at google IO, it hasnt even been much more then a month yet.
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haha +1 to that one
Not this again...
Still the same troll with the same posts?
Blueman101 said:
IOS4 was shown back near the end of 2009, and it took them 6 months to get it released, we just saw 2.2 at google IO, it hasnt even been much more then a month yet.
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This is the direct result of pausing for a second to think before you speak.
nexusdue said:
Rather disappointing that Apple managed to get the iphone 4 and iOS 4 out the door before android 2.2.
And what's wrong with google that they can't publish deadline.
No wonder developers prefer iOS: Apple can be relied on. Google is just unreliable and all over the map.
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grow up or learn how to develop software
nexusdue said:
Rather disappointing that Apple managed to get the iphone 4 and iOS 4 out the door before android 2.2.
And what's wrong with google that they can't publish deadline.
No wonder developers prefer iOS: Apple can be relied on. Google is just unreliable and all over the map.
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boohoo cry me a river.
Google should take whatever time is necessary to make a polished, competitive product. If you're in such a hurry, get the FRF72.
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boohoo cry me a river.
Google should take whatever time is necessary to make a polished, competitive product. If you're in such a hurry, get the FRF72.
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I agree - but they should have done the same with 2.1 (and potentially 1.0).
They promised features for 2.2 that should have been in android to begin with; not to mention all the bugs!
Love the trolls in here BTW!!
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I agree - but they should have done the same with 2.1 (and potentially 1.0).
They promised features for 2.2 that should have been in android to begin with; not to mention all the bugs!
Love the trolls in here BTW!!
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Similar to how iOS4 just now brings multitasking and folders.
nexusdue said:
I agree - but they should have done the same with 2.1 (and potentially 1.0).
They promised features for 2.2 that should have been in android to begin with; not to mention all the bugs!
Love the trolls in here BTW!!
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Ok...I'll play. iOS4 has features that should have been in the first release, like multitasking, folders, and wallpapers. Not to mention it took them a year to get copy and paste into their OS. What features should have been in 1.0 that are in 2.2? WiFi Tethering and Apps2SD? They have given legitimate reasons, in my opinion as to why they didn't include them.
Now I do want an official release of FroYo, but in the mean time if its that big of a deal install one of the roms or the leaked stock versions.
android is pretty good right now, theres no significant changes that would a version 2...
Stop feeding.
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I agree - but they should have done the same with 2.1 (and potentially 1.0).
They promised features for 2.2 that should have been in android to begin with; not to mention all the bugs!
Love the trolls in here BTW!!
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Yep, especially the OP. Every thread he's trolling.. Pretty damn lame.
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Ok...I'll play. iOS4 has features that should have been in the first release, like multitasking, folders, and wallpapers. Not to mention it took them a year to get copy and paste into their OS. What features should have been in 1.0 that are in 2.2? WiFi Tethering and Apps2SD? They have given legitimate reasons, in my opinion as to why they didn't include them.
Now I do want an official release of FroYo, but in the mean time if its that big of a deal install one of the roms or the leaked stock versions.
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gif support was another huge one they should have started from the get go...
Im happy with the frf72 and I say again, the final will be no different, just a different version number...
So if ya got the FRF 72 on your phone op. Chill, you got it dude.. The final number will not come with blow jobs, thats it man... You got 72 you got froyo.
Now think if we had no leaked version.. Then id be pissed...
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gif support was another huge one they should have started from the get go...
Im happy with the frf72 and I say again, the final will be no different, just a different version number...
So if ya got the FRF 72 on your phone op. Chill, you got it dude.. The final number will not come with blow jobs, thats it man... You got 72 you got froyo.
Now think if we had no leaked version.. Then id be pissed...
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Like those of use with the ATT nexus who can use the leaks
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Similar to how iOS4 just now brings multitasking and folders.
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And custom wallpapers.
Even the iPhone 3G still can't change its wallpapers even with the new iOS4 update.
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Ok...I'll play. iOS4 has features that should have been in the first release, like multitasking, folders, and wallpapers. Not to mention it took them a year to get copy and paste into their OS. What features should have been in 1.0 that are in 2.2? WiFi Tethering and Apps2SD? They have given legitimate reasons, in my opinion as to why they didn't include them.
Now I do want an official release of FroYo, but in the mean time if its that big of a deal install one of the roms or the leaked stock versions.
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Will gladly install a leaked ROM once you point me to one that actually works with at&t without root.
I totally agree that the iphone made many mistakes and there is a ton of wrong with it even today. But google is in the nice position to be able to copy their functionality (which they do a lot) ... and they still can't get it done?
Features that should have been in android 1.0: Exchange support? A proper email client? Copy and paste in emails? Saving and sending of attachments? Download files from the internet? ... none of these is even in 2.1! Some are finally supposed to come in 2.2!
I am not saying that the iPhone is great (in fact it is the worse of two evils - android and iphone) ... but at least they can publish and stick to a schedule.
PS: Loving the trolls even more - if you dare to criticize android and google (no matter whether it is legitimatly or not) they come out of their caves. Hehehehehe! Trolls, trolls, trolls!
Maybe some people just don't work in the real world and don't understand how things work. You can only put so much work and so many features into a given development time period. And then you have to chose what makes the cut and what does not. Then repeat for the next update. Different company will give different priority to a feature making the cut vs another company.
About the 2.2 update, don't worry Google is holding it back on purpose just from you and they don't wanna give the release date just to keep you from knowing it. Or maybe they don't know the date.
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Okay so...
I'm new to Android (and basically to smartphones in general...have a Blackjack II but no data plan with it).
I was wondering what everyone's opinions are on these phones (I know that the Captivate has not been released yet but for everyone who knows more about it that I do).
Things such as speed comparison, ease of use (for those who test drove the Captivate) , supposed battery life, availability of developer support for continued updates and/or custom ROMs, ease of root, carrier support, etc.
I want to know what phones has more advantages so that I don't get screwed over when it comes time to upgrade.
Please don't flame...not trying to start a fight or spam. Just need some help...feeling pretty lost
Well ease of use will be the same, they both run Android.
The difference is that Samsung's will be able to run 3.0, given the rumored requirements, the Aria cannot.
But everything else about the Captivate will be better. It's got an international version as well as four US versions, it should have more support than N1, probably.
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Well ease of use will be the same, they both run Android.
The difference is that Samsung's will be able to run 3.0, given the rumored requirements, the Aria cannot.
But everything else about the Captivate will be better. It's got an international version as well as four US versions, it should have more support than N1, probably.
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more support then Nexus ? i hardly doubt that. considering that first OS leaks, 3-party roms, and official roms are for Nexus only
Since there are so many different versions of it, will all custom ROMs/root methods (whether it be the AT&T, Verizon, Sprint, T-Mobile, International) be the same or will there be the headache of trying to find one that will work with my phone?
And I've heard complaints about Samsung's customer service....how is it compared to HTC? I've never used Samsung's customer service before and never owned an HTC before.
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Since there are so many different versions of it, will all custom ROMs/root methods (whether it be the AT&T, Verizon, Sprint, T-Mobile, International) be the same or will there be the headache of trying to find one that will work with my phone?
And I've heard complaints about Samsung's customer service....how is it compared to HTC? I've never used Samsung's customer service before and never owned an HTC before.
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I would imagine that ROMS will be different because hardware is not 100% the same, although i might be mistaken.
as far as support goes: updates on HTC are pretty slow, I heard that Samsung will be even worth. It will probably get a quick update to 2.2 and thats it.....HTC phone support sucks, but at least you spend less then 1 minute on hold for a rep.
The only reason why HTC Nexus gets so much support, custom roms and updates, is because its a Google phone and its first in line for everything, its sort of "Developer Phone" thats not locked on anything which makes it easier to make ROMs.
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I would imagine that ROMS will be different because hardware is not 100% the same, although i might be mistaken.
as far as support goes: updates on HTC are pretty slow, I heard that Samsung will be even worth. It will probably get a quick update to 2.2 and thats it.....HTC phone support sucks, but at least you spend less then 1 minute on hold for a rep.
The only reason why HTC Nexus gets so much support, custom roms and updates, is because its a Google phone and its first in line for everything, its sort of "Developer Phone" thats not locked on anything which makes it easier to make ROMs.
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Thanks for the response.
I guess that there wont be any true comparisons until it get released. I just hope that the Captivate lives up to the expections I have of it. Dont want it to be a complete disappointment.
Hopefully some decent custom ROMS and rooting techniques hit the forum soon. New to Android myself but my friends speak highly of these so its something I plan on doing if there is enough support for it on here. Aria has really good support here, and I hope the Captivate gets the same respect.
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Well ease of use will be the same, they both run Android.
The difference is that Samsung's will be able to run 3.0, given the rumored requirements, the Aria cannot.
But everything else about the Captivate will be better. It's got an international version as well as four US versions, it should have more support than N1, probably.
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Samsung has rebuked that claim of the "requirement" / minimal requirement, it's actually a "recommendation."
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Samsung has rebuked that claim of the "requirement" / minimal requirement, it's actually a "recommendation."
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So the Galaxy S line definitely has the best hardware out on the market right now... The Aria is smooth in the UI, but a lot slower in graphics, computation, and every other way... The reason it is smooth is because it runs at a lower resolution... I am confident any variant of the Galaxy S will have a longer lifespan than any other android phone you buy right now... Samsung is putting a lot of eggs in this basket...
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Thanks for the response.
I guess that there wont be any true comparisons until it get released. I just hope that the Captivate lives up to the expections I have of it. Dont want it to be a complete disappointment.
Hopefully some decent custom ROMS and rooting techniques hit the forum soon. New to Android myself but my friends speak highly of these so its something I plan on doing if there is enough support for it on here. Aria has really good support here, and I hope the Captivate gets the same respect.
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right now all SGS run 2.1, hopefully soon it will get 2.2. I have been on 2.2 for about 2 months already 2.2 is a pretty big upgrade for Android mainly due to Huge performance increase and better battery life, of course bunch of other goodies as well.
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So the Galaxy S line definitely has the best hardware out on the market right now... The Aria is smooth in the UI, but a lot slower in graphics, computation, and every other way... The reason it is smooth is because it runs at a lower resolution... I am confident any variant of the Galaxy S will have a longer lifespan than any other android phone you buy right now... Samsung is putting a lot of eggs in this basket...
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I'm not sure if the reason it is smooth is because it runs at a lower resolution, but it's definitely because of the CPU/GPU. It is at least 3x the speed than current smart phone in the market. It is most noticeable in 3d graphics (gamings especially or even navigation).
The sluggishness of SGS will be fixed (entirely) prettysoon by firmwares / mods / roms.
If you compare the hardwares, SGS will be the knight in the arena.
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But Google has signaled a pull away from that on future phones (IE, seems like they don't want to sell their own device directly). The N1 is probably going to be the exception to the rule... All other devices (HTC, Samsung, Motorola, etc) you're going to have to wait for both the manufacturer and the carrier to pass updates through. So if Google doesn't directly sell the Nexus Two themselves, it'll be no different.
But here's the catch... Since Samsung has devices in all markets... They're going to be the most likely device the community will custom ROM. I could be wrong though...
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But Google has signaled a pull away from that on future phones (IE, seems like they don't want to sell their own device directly). The N1 is probably going to be the exception to the rule... All other devices (HTC, Samsung, Motorola, etc) you're going to have to wait for both the manufacturer and the carrier to pass updates through. So if Google doesn't directly sell the Nexus Two themselves, it'll be no different.
But here's the catch... Since Samsung has devices in all markets... They're going to be the most likely device the community will custom ROM. I could be wrong though...
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I'm really hoping for some good custom ROMS for it. I'm new to the whole Android thing...including custom ROMS but I am very intrigued
I apologize for making another "I'm mad at Samsung for..." thread, but after trying for the past hours to get the JI5 update and failing, I'm a bit angrier than I usually am and want to hurt Samsung somewhere where they will feel it while not going to extremes like trying to organize a class action suit.
Ever since the Galaxy S line came out they really haven't done much to support it except release 3 buggy updates for three of the phones and completely ignore the one that's been out in the States for the longest (until the "made you look" event of today), yet they're so eager to show off that Galaxy Tab that they want everyone to be interested in and buy next month. I suggest simply spreading the word to everyone that no one should but that thing until they at least get their house in order and get the Galaxy S line up to the basic functionality they should have had out of the box. Spread the word that they apparently can't support the products they release and that nobody should touch those things until they can prove they are going to stand behind the products they want us to spend our hard earned money on.
Before some of you start flaming me, I do very well know this is a forum for people who mod their phones and have no intention of staying stock. I mod my phones too. Even with the fixes I've flashed I still have issues with GPS and the phone resetting. I appreciate everything the community has done to help make these phones better and I whole heartedly thank them for doing so, but at the same time there's a whole company with a division of people getting paid to do this that hasn't been able to supply us with one good fix after nearly 3 months time. It's time we should make every potential customer aware of that.
I'm boycotting the U.S. release of the Galaxy Tab, but only because I find the fact that all 4 U.S. carriers disabling the phone functions of the thing (the international version won't have this limitation) as a hugely retarded move.
I'm not interested in carrying around 2 huge slabs-o-touchscreen all the darn time. If I were I'd be an iDiot and worship Steve Jobs.
That's understandable, personally I could care less about being able to make calls on tablet. It's not like you would be able to take calls on both your cell phone and the tablet. And I sure wouldn't care for having another phone number.
I love my iPad btw!
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I'm boycotting the U.S. release of the Galaxy Tab, but only because I find the fact that all 4 U.S. carriers disabling the phone functions of the thing (the international version won't have this limitation) as a hugely retarded move.
I'm not interested in carrying around 2 huge slabs-o-touchscreen all the darn time. If I were I'd be an iDiot and worship Steve Jobs.
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Why would you carry it around if you can't use it as a phone?
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To be honest I am not surprised they are disabling the calling feature. In fact I would be surprised if they didn't.
I mean I for one wouldn't want to stop using my vibrant to use that giant tablet.
Also no matter what it will have wifi so it can be more like a laptop on the go and playing games on it will be awesome from the looks of it.
Well if they are just disabling the feature then that means the hardware to make calls is still built in so someone could root it and make calls anyway. But I'm still not getting one cause it'll be just like my phone. Tablets are a median of a phone and a notebook but nowadays the Ipad is the best out.
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Can't say I'm feeling pouty and petulant about Samsung in general, but I crossed four Tabs off my Xmas list when they announced the phone functionality was disabled.
As for the frequent comments about the Tab being too large to use as a phone, I use my phone as a speakerphone most of the time, and Bluetooth headsets put the final nail in the coffin for that argument.
I really doubt the S Tab will sell much anyway.
Smaller screen than the iPad, lower resolution, considerably worse battery life, for almost the same price....
Plus, given our experience with Samsung, it will probably not be upgraded to Gingerbread, which according to Google is the first version of Android actually meant for tablets.
Who in their right mind will buy the Tab?
What made me mad is they have more accessories slated for that thing than the very phones they already have out.
Docks, keyboards and all kinds of goodies. Oh yeah they all plug into the bottom of the Tab not the top like our retarded phones.
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Exactly!
Since it's functionally crippled compared to it's European counterpart I don't plan on carrying one around.
It's an interesting device, and will probably have a modicum of success, but the deliberate lockdown of an existing feature is one that makes me uninterested in it.
Given that it's carrier unsubsidized pricing internationally is likely going to make it more expensive than the iPad, if I were to develop an interest in an Android tablet/mid that didn't support phone functions, I'd just SPEND LESS MONEY on a comparable 7" tablet that doesn't have phone functions. There are several...
Huge flaw with Samsung tablet, not sure if mentioned
At the moment pretty much every App available doesn't even support the tablets 1024x600 resolution so they will be to small for the screen or will stretch and look like crap.
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Huge flaw with Samsung tablet, not sure if mentioned
At the moment pretty much every App available doesn't even support the tablets 1024x600 resolution so they will be to small for the screen or will stretch and look like crap.
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I can make everything in an app support that higher res, and I font even consider myself a dev... More of a file mover.. But there are tutorials and some apps are already compatible...
Remember when donut and froyo came out not all apps were compatible.. Some apps dont work on donut now...
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WTF does this have to do with the Vibrant? Oh, can all of you stop blaming everything on Samsung? It seems like only half the people on this forum has sense and understands that T-Mobile makes the final call on updates.
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WTF does this have to do with the Vibrant? Oh, can all of you stop blaming everything on Samsung? It seems like only half the people on this forum has sense and understands that T-Mobile makes the final call on updates.
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Dude, you are drawn to these threads like a fly is to sh!t!
T-Mobile has its problems, but what about the rest of the companies carrying the Galaxy S? Have any released Froyo, or successful compass fixes?
No? Must be a worldwide carrier conspiracy to make Samsung look bad, by delaying fixes and OS upgrades.....
No, Samsung's track records with product support just sucks. That's why some are pissed.
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Wait a second, let me get this straight. You are upset because an unofficial, probably beta quality firmware wasn't available properly through a piece of software that hasn't been released to the US market yet?
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Wait a second, let me get this straight. You are upset because an unofficial, probably beta quality firmware wasn't available properly through a piece of software that hasn't been released to the US market yet?
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Nice troll, since I don't believe you are actually as stupid as you're trying to get us to believe.
No, we're all pissed off about Samsung's crappy support. I bought a phone with a GPS built in. I can't use my GPS because it doesn't work.
A little fact which has been repeatedly explained to you. So either you choose to ignore it so you can troll more, or you have major issues with reading comprehension, take your pick.
And, as I said elsewhere, no one forced you to bring your fanboi self into this thread.
I'll hold out for MOTO or HTC
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That's great, let's organize a boycott of something that 99.9% of people have no plan to purchase in the first place. In other words, we're going to have to seek out people who want to buy the Tab and then dissuade them. Personally, I think I won't.
psshh, who is gonna buy that over sized phone anyway, too big for been a phone, too small for been a tablet
I like my EVO very much, best device that I had and last me more then any other phone in the market(besides iPhone) and there is one thing the bugs the hell out of me tho and is fragmentation, specially this week, we got another EVO, epic and a shift 4G(all good phones btw) in our family but since I rooted mine and I was running cm7 and the stock Evo has sense so I forgot how different they are when you use them, trying to explain something was a pain in the butt so I have to flash a sense rom to give them the right direction(person the got the EVO came from blackberry and he was lost of what to do) , well after that I'm at work and someone had a mytouch (original) and still diference , the worse part is the moto, Sammy and HTC all use different layout in buttons! Why don't they have a set up one for all Google devices? ?? I mean the EVO makes more sense to me but for my friend thinks the epic does, this is something the Google should have control from the beggining, like I said I love Android but some stuff needs to changed
I have an iPhone3GS as well and if a iPhone 4 user asked me about settings or set ups is the same but if someone ask me how to use the mail app in HTC EVO with sense is different from the email app he aosp roms come with, I know how to do it no problem for me but a lot new comers are having problem with this kind of problems . I help that much the I can
And lets no talk about updates to new version cause that's another crazy topic, man the hero got 2.1 after almost 6 months and that was it, the epic (power phone) got official froyo 6 months later, and all those little android devices lmade by LG, Samsung, etc will probably never get froyo or gingerbread .
Anyways Gizmodo just published this article about Android fragmentation and it looks like finally Google will work on it
http://m.gizmodo.com/5787565/google-finally-fights-back-against-android-fragmentation
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Man I hope so.
I have no problems with putting a "skin" over top of android, but, it HAS to be a limit. This is a prefect way for Google to slap back at the companies that are or are getting ready to lock their phones down (HTC! ><).
It is definitely getting out of hand and needs to be put in check for the sake of Android.
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Man I hope so.
I have no problems with putting a "skin" over top of android, but, it HAS to be a limit. This is a prefect way for Google to slap back at the companies that are or are getting ready to lock their phones down (HTC! ><).
It is definitely getting out of hand and needs to be put in check for the sake of Android.
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The skin is all good but like tethering it should be free for all froyo and all carriers block it, 4G tethering is nice when it works but I do t use it enough to pay so that's one of the reason I rooted
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I don't really see your argument. Yeah fragmentation sucks, but to the average Joe it doesn't mattter. The example you used of your rooted EVO was terrible. Your EVO, had it not been modified by you would look and be exactly the same as your friends brand new EVO.
The majority of people don't even know what version of Android their phone is running. They don't even know there is a new version available until their phone tells them its time to update.
Androids fragmentation has improved greatly with the release of froyo. It becomes a double edged sword when it comes to OEMs having the ability to modify Android. It gives us consumers choice, at the expense of receiving slower updates. The problem is people need to vote with their wallets if they want change. People are voting with their wallets because they are buying phones with motoblur, sense, and touchwiz.
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I don't really see your argument. Yeah fragmentation sucks, but to the average Joe it doesn't mattter. The example you used of your rooted EVO was terrible. Your EVO, had it not been modified by you would look and be exactly the same as your friends brand new EVO.
The majority of people don't even know what version of Android their phone is running. They don't even know there is a new version available until their phone tells them its time to update.
Androids fragmentation has improved greatly with the release of froyo. It becomes a double edged sword when it comes to OEMs having the ability to modify Android. It gives us consumers choice, at the expense of receiving slower updates. The problem is people need to vote with their wallets if they want change. People are voting with their wallets because they are buying phones with motoblur, sense, and touchwiz.
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People are buying phones with motoblur, sense and touchwiz because for the majority.. that's all there is.
Where are the phones with Vanilla Android? Not everyone has access to a Nexus S or even knows what the difference is. That is definitely why Google needs to step in and show what Android really is.
Skins/UI's are fine and choice is always great. It just needs to be done in a cleaner, less bloated way. I really hope google reins it in a little bit..
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I like my EVO very much, best device that I had and last me more then any other phone in the market(besides iPhone) and there is one thing the bugs the hell out of me tho and is fragmentation, specially this week, we got another EVO, epic and a shift 4G(all good phones btw) in our family but since I rooted mine and I was running cm7 and the stock Evo has sense so I forgot how different they are when you use them, trying to explain something was a pain in the butt so I have to flash a sense rom to give them the right direction(person the got the EVO came from blackberry and he was lost of what to do) , well after that I'm at work and someone had a mytouch (original) and still diference , the worse part is the moto, Sammy and HTC all use different layout in buttons! Why don't they have a set up one for all Google devices? ?? I mean the EVO makes more sense to me but for my friend thinks the epic does, this is something the Google should have control from the beggining, like I said I love Android but some stuff needs to changed
I have an iPhone3GS as well and if a iPhone 4 user asked me about settings or set ups is the same but if someone ask me how to use the mail app in HTC EVO with sense is different from the email app he aosp roms come with, I know how to do it no problem for me but a lot new comers are having problem with this kind of problems . I help that much the I can
And lets no talk about updates to new version cause that's another crazy topic, man the hero got 2.1 after almost 6 months and that was it, the epic (power phone) got official froyo 6 months later, and all those little android devices lmade by LG, Samsung, etc will probably never get froyo or gingerbread .
Anyways Gizmodo just published this article about Android fragmentation and it looks like finally Google will work on it
http://m.gizmodo.com/5787565/google-finally-fights-back-against-android-fragmentation
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actually, from home screen, menu button, settings, scroll to accounts/sync enter it in the same way on every phone
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People are voting with their wallets because they are buying phones with motoblur, sense, and touchwiz.
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normally, I would agree with this statement, except this:
MOST people don't choose to go to a carrier because of a phone (or skin on said phone), they already have a carrier they have a relationship with, and get whatever phone the rep says is "the best thing right now", and "hey, it's an android!", without knowing what that really means.
then they often find that the phone they purchased has very little in common with their friends android, diminishing the inclusiveness a shared brand should have. (think iphone) among other things mentioned previously like support, updates, etc.
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Yeah well is just diferrent stuff Guys be open minded on what people wants, I know most here like to work for our phone and I say this cause we flash, modify, and do all sort of crazy stuff and I like it but no everyone is like that some people want something the works for them, a smartphone should help you to make your life easier and replace multiple devices, books and sometimes aagendas and to get this experience right Google needs to step up and make it happen(gingerbread got the copy and paste updated and works better then froyo or eclair) , HTC is clearly the first one going the right direction with sense and then everybody thought they have something better like motoblur and touchwiz and just makes a lot difference for the user using it , Google needs to drive they experience and should make sure manufactures updates their devices the way everyone has the great experience that we (xda users do)
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...MOST people don't choose to go to a carrier because of a phone....
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I agree, except, what about all the zombies that jumped ship to AT&T for the iphone just to have a terrible network and pay too much?
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I like my EVO very much, best device that I had and last me more then any other phone in the market(besides iPhone) and there is one thing the bugs the hell out of me tho and is fragmentation, specially this week, we got another EVO, epic and a shift 4G(all good phones btw) in our family but since I rooted mine and I was running cm7 and the stock Evo has sense so I forgot how different they are when you use them, trying to explain something was a pain in the butt so I have to flash a sense rom to give them the right direction(person the got the EVO came from blackberry and he was lost of what to do) , well after that I'm at work and someone had a mytouch (original) and still diference , the worse part is the moto, Sammy and HTC all use different layout in buttons! Why don't they have a set up one for all Google devices? ?? I mean the EVO makes more sense to me but for my friend thinks the epic does, this is something the Google should have control from the beggining, like I said I love Android but some stuff needs to changed
I have an iPhone3GS as well and if a iPhone 4 user asked me about settings or set ups is the same but if someone ask me how to use the mail app in HTC EVO with sense is different from the email app he aosp roms come with, I know how to do it no problem for me but a lot new comers are having problem with this kind of problems . I help that much the I can
And lets no talk about updates to new version cause that's another crazy topic, man the hero got 2.1 after almost 6 months and that was it, the epic (power phone) got official froyo 6 months later, and all those little android devices lmade by LG, Samsung, etc will probably never get froyo or gingerbread .
Anyways Gizmodo just published this article about Android fragmentation and it looks like finally Google will work on it
http://m.gizmodo.com/5787565/google-finally-fights-back-against-android-fragmentation
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I agree, except, what about all the zombies that jumped ship to AT&T for the iphone just to have a terrible network and pay too much?
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Ha ha those are special occasion lmao
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What do you guys think? Can't post any links yet, but it's on engadget.
yep,i saw the news..
unbelievable!
but i really like looking forward for the cooperation of this two giant!
and i believe a new day has come!
For Android and it's partners it can only be good news, anything that strengthens the ecosystem will be welcomed.
i think nobody saw that coming... most expensive patents ever!
So my guess is the Nexus Prime will be manufactured by non other than Motorola
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So my guess is the Nexus Prime will be manufactured by non other than Motorola
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I'm hoping they make several different Nexus-esque phones. Some would be the high end models that we would all drool over, then they could also make some vanilla phones that are mid or low end. Imagine having several different top of the line Nexus phones to choose from.. it makes me drool.
Google to buy Motorola Mobility for $12.5B
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What do you guys think? Can't post any links yet, but it's on engadget.
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it's also here Google to buy Motorola Mobility for $12.5B http://news.cnet.com/8301-1035_3-20092362-94/google-to-buy-motorola-mobility-for-$12.5b/
Seems like the next NEXUS phone is going to be a Motorola Nexus
that might actually be a good thing for Motorola owners, which had horrible to no support for software upgrades with each phone they buy
you are lucky to get a new firmware if ever, in the past.
So after Google taking over, i can see a lot more frequent upgrades for all future handsets, and unlocked bootloader
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Technically, they're buying the Mobile arm of Motorola, Not Motorola per se. Motorola Mobility.
Technically, there is no Motorola "per se."
Motorola split into two independent companies several years ago, Motorola Solutions and Motorola Mobility.
I guess my next phone will be a Motorola nexus. I think its actually great news. Will miss the Samsung exclusive super amoled screen, but Motorola makes some awesome hardware. Maybe now we can be rid of motoblur, get some codecs integrated, etc. I wonder how long it will take for them to design and release a new phone? I'd be surprised if they get anything out by Xmas time.
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Well they need an icecream sandwich phone which is ment to be out by the end of the year.
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I cannot believe it...wow wow wow
I dont think the next Nexus will be a Moto Nexus - it takes time to build a new phone. Maybe the next one after N3.
I hope HTC/Samsung/LG dont feel overlooked and everything in the Android ecosystems stays in balance. I don't like the idea of competition between manufactors and GoogMoto.
Excellent! Hopefully Google will axe MotoBlur (or whatever they call it these days) and we can start seeing motorola hardware with stock android.
If the next nexus is by moto, I'll be skipping that iteration. Moto hasn't made a decent handset since the v710 or e815. Poor Google.
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http://www.androidcentral.com/motorola-wont-have-exclusive-nexus-devices-andy-rubin-says
Good, Motorola won't be the exclusive Nexus producer.
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http://www.androidcentral.com/motorola-wont-have-exclusive-nexus-devices-andy-rubin-says
Good, Motorola won't be the exclusive Nexus producer.
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Thank you. Phew!
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i think this is a good thing. first, it gives google some patent strength which they need to keep doing what they are doing with android. they did say that nothing will really change, as far as, motorola mobility is not going to become 'part' of google but will be a separate business and will license android just like everyone else, just owned by google.
but yes of course it lends an intimacy which will in turn strengthen moto handsets and hopefully push all hardware manufacturers to have to keep in step. and yes hopefully that means more stock android devices all around! i dont htink it would be in anyones best interest if goog shows favoritism to moto though, so hopefully they will not. in the end, whatever is good for android will be good for all of us
Lets not get ahead of ourselves... I'm sure a transaction of this size will require regulatory approval from the U.S. and EU... and you can BET that the anti-Android crowd will try to intervene, a la Sprint w.r.t. the T-mobile acquisition.
I'm confident it'll go through, but it's not a done deal yet.
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Lets not get ahead of ourselves... I'm sure a transaction of this size will require regulatory approval from the U.S. and EU... and you can BET that the anti-Android crowd will try to intervene, a la Sprint w.r.t. the T-mobile acquisition.
I'm confident it'll go through, but it's not a done deal yet.
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It's pretty much a done deal. Not one reason it wouldn't go through
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