HERO gone nutso... (NANDROID useless?) - Hero CDMA General

I'm kinda pissed, I'm running Modaco 1.1 but already had WaveSecure when I installed the rom. I tried to remove WaveSecure via App Manager and after, my phone started showing no wireless connection so I soft reset.
On restart, I had about 20 Force Closes, and still no signal. Time for Nandroid Restore right? Wrong...
Did a Nandroid Restore, and the same thing happened. Still getting Force Closes, still no wireless signal. Apps that weren't on my phone at the time of the Nandroid Backup, are still on. So what is Nandroid actually for, because I thought it was a complete copy of your phone, and would return it to the time I made the backup?
I guess my only option now is to completely wipe my phone and start over....?

So I am currently working on integrating apps2sd in to my rom (fresh rom) because users who currently have apps2sd on their phones via modaco are receiving errors during install.
I have been working with apps2sd and getting it in my rom for 8 hours now and personally I have come to dislike it. It is a wonderful amazing idea and will be great once it's supported by google or HTC.
But think of it this way... apps2sd stores all apps on your SD card. nandroid doesn't backup your sd card or do anything with it. We have all come to rely on nandroid but if you need to restore because an app you installed broke something and that app is installed on your sd... nandroid isn't going to remove it.
Something to think about before everyone starts using apps2sd...

flipzmode said:
We have all come to rely on nandroid but if you need to restore because an app you installed broke something and that app is installed on your sd... nandroid isn't going to remove it.
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I thought about this, but I thought that just because the app is installed on the SD card, doesn't mean the info to find it on the SD is on the phone.
But, if this is the problem, just make a backup of your SD at the same time as each Nandroid, and you can revert each time together.
Just realized... maybe just wipe the ext portion of the SD card, where all the app2sd is, and it will rewrite itself on reboot, just like when installed the rom? or is it the rom that writes the apps over to sd?

jirafabo said:
Just realized... maybe just wipe the ext portion of the SD card, where all the app2sd is, and it will rewrite itself on reboot, just like when installed the rom? or is it the rom that writes the apps over to sd?
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What I do is I nandroid restore to the backup I made of the stock rom, then go into the recovery, wipe the ext partition, then install what custom rom I want.

I did a clean/wipe from the recovery image, and it left the modaco rom on there. Thought this would've returned the phone to the original rom, but guess not.

Sounds like your ext2 partition got hosed. Effectively your /data/app got wiped. You need to replace them somehow. Downloading and installing the apps from the market might be worth a shot, that might save your data and stuff.

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what to do with Apps2sd when changing ROMs

Yesterday I decided to try and update from Cyanogen's 3.4.6 to 3.5.2. When I did this, and booted into 3.5.2, a lot of my apps could not open and didnt have icons nor the right name. I had made a nandroid backup right before this (while on 3.4.6) so i restored with that but my apps are still messed up.
My question is, do i have to reformat my sd card each time i update to a new rom? if not how do i make it so it doesnt screw up like that?
I don't reformat, but I always clear out my ext2/ext3 partition on the SD card when switching between ROMs. Too many problems happen if you don't.

using nandroid to switch between RAV/Cyanogenmod?

I have an SD card with 3 partitions: fat32(7gB)/ext4(488mB)/swap(91mB). not sure what order I created them in, and not sure if that matters.
when I do a nandroid backup, is it also backing up my ext4 partition where my apps2sd apps are kept? I want to be able to use nandroid to swap between many different ROMS, but still have all my settings saved per ROM. And hopefully apps as well, whether it be by the nandroid restore or (and im not even sure if it works this next way im describing) by different ROMS being able to see the apps in apps2sd and use them?
Like I said, Im not sure how apps storage/location actually works. If I install apps on the sd card, and I put an upgraded or even a different custom ROM on, does the system see the apps on the new ROM? Or are we also supposed to wipe ext partitions as well?
Can someone let me know what "wiping" data and/or cache actually does? IS there a basic phone architecture doc I can read to see what data / cache actually is used for?
Wiping refers to the internal memory of the device. Not the SD.
By wiping you remove all settings and software installed on the device itself.
If you boot after a wipe, you will have to re-enter your google account information and wait for the sync to complete.
If you have apps2sd, (most of) your apps will be on the ext partition on your SD card. Those don't get deleted when you wipe. If you have go from 1 apps2sd capable rom to another, your apps will still be there. And the apps that store settings on the SD will have their settings saved too (only one I know of is gem-miner).
try bart
opticalc said:
I want to be able to use nandroid to swap between many different ROMS, but still have all my settings saved per ROM.
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I recommend using a more complete back-up and restore tool like BART or Switchrom. Do a search for BART on the Dream Development forum and you'll find everything you need. It's built in to the latest RA recovery images as well and works great.

[Q] Quick way to (re)install multiple apps

Is there a quick way to (re)install all my apps after changing ROMs?
Been using Pongster's awesome NAND HyperDroid build since v5 and have been upgrading along the way by reinstalling the data section from my CWM backup. Recently on v11 I started having a few glitches and upgrading to v12 only made matters much worse. I just want to start a fresh on v12, but is there a way quicker than writing down all my apps then selecting each from the market. Have looked in Android Market on using desktop PC and it only lists 11 apps. Thanks.
SheenaIsAPunkRocker said:
Is there a quick way to (re)install all my apps after changing ROMs?
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I believe Titanium Backup Pro is the most popular choice, it can restore all your apps and data automatically, plus there's an option to repair missing market links.
That rom uses an ext partition, so as well as restoring the data partition after a fresh flash, if you also restore the sd-ext partition (same method), all your installed apps will be restored, complete with all their settings still in place, since you are restoring data too.
D'oh, and double d'oh. Thanks for the tips. I backed everything up using Titanium backup. Being running HyperDroid without an EXT partition so while I was in the process of installing v12 again, I thought I'd use the handy partition function in ClockworkMod. However, what it fails to mention is in re-partition my SD Card for me it would handily wipe everything Looks like I'm hosed now anyway!
nooOO!, hah, oh well, it happens, and theres no better learning curve than seeing mistakes in action.
I literally had the SD card in my desktop to copy everything on it, but before I did, I put the SD back into the phone to do something else ... never got around to doing that copy. At least phone numbers are backed up on Google (I hope!), but I guess I'll have to start again on Tower Raiders 2, that's the real loss!!
since you are at a fresh start, you COULD try reinstalling all the apps, and THEN restore the data partition, which (unless im wrong) holds settings? ,,though i know some stuff uses folders on the fat32 part of the sd card too, , so may not work, , worth a try if you're in an investigative frame of mind.

Application data corrupt after backup/restore

Hi,
Just changed rom from pcfighter 2.3.7 CM7 V2 (kernel 2.6.32) to mike's AOSP 2.3.7 v5.0
I backed up everything before with MyBackup root (data and apps data+apk),
wiped cache and data in recovery and installed the new rom. Then I restored everything in MyBackup.
Things seemed to be fine after reboot, except many apps started to force close on start. Wiping those apps' data seemed to bring them back to life one by one, so it looks like their data got somehow corrupted during the process.
Not a big problem, since I didn't have any really valuable data in the misbehaving apps, but I'd like to avoid similar hassle in the future.
Has anybody encountered this before or have any idea what I might have done wrong here?
cgx said:
Hi,
Just changed rom from pcfighter 2.3.7 CM7 V2 (kernel 2.6.32) to mike's AOSP 2.3.7 v5.0
I backed up everything before with MyBackup root (data and apps data+apk),
wiped cache and data in recovery and installed the new rom. Then I restored everything in MyBackup.
Things seemed to be fine after reboot, except many apps started to force close on start. Wiping those apps' data seemed to bring them back to life one by one, so it looks like their data got somehow corrupted during the process.
Not a big problem, since I didn't have any really valuable data in the misbehaving apps, but I'd like to avoid similar hassle in the future.
Has anybody encountered this before or have any idea what I might have done wrong here?
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i always use titanium backup and dont have problems ..
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i always use titanium backup and dont have problems ..
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Yeah, I think I will try with titanium next time I have to do this. Or maybe I will backup with both and compare the results...
I didnt have that problem, but once when I updated my phone through fastboot i backed up my apps and personnal data using my backup root, and my personnal data got corrupted so I couldnt restore it, thankfully all I had that mattered was my contacts and they were synced with my google account so it was no problem really, was just kinda annoyed.
Nearly all of the apps that I backed up which was on the SD card (using App2SD method), didn't even backup when it said it did. Lots of corruption going on.
jhonnyx1000 said:
Nearly all of the apps that I backed up which was on the SD card (using App2SD method), didn't even backup when it said it did. Lots of corruption going on.
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Was this also on MyBackup root? Now that I think of it, all my apps with corrupted data were also installed on SD card on previous rom.
cgx said:
Was this also on MyBackup root? Now that I think of it, all my apps with corrupted data were also installed on SD card on previous rom.
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No it's MyBackup Pro, it has root capabalities though.
I use Titanium Backup now.

[Q] Unsuccessful Nandroid Backup Eats Up Memory Space

Hi everyone,
I have a situation here with my Nexus 4. I am running CWM Recovery 6.0.4.3 and AOKP nightly builds. I was using Stock ROM before AOKP. That time, before I upgraded I was trying to make a nandroid backup. I had around 7GB free space before performing the backup. Eventually the backup went wrong, it said "Error while backing up /data". I don't know what to do so I just reboot and re-run the backup process, but it still gave me the same error. I then boot into my phone and realized something... my free memory space has lessened to around 2GB only! I then decided not to make the backup and just flash my ROM to AOKP. I thought this will clear the problem, but it's not.
So, my question is, how to clear this used space? I checked in the nandroid backup folder and found absolutely nothing there, so it must be somewhere else... Any help would be appreciated! Thanks in advance
james.abcde said:
Hi everyone,
I have a situation here with my Nexus 4. I am running CWM Recovery 6.0.4.3 and AOKP nightly builds. I was using Stock ROM before AOKP. That time, before I upgraded I was trying to make a nandroid backup. I had around 7GB free space before performing the backup. Eventually the backup went wrong, it said "Error while backing up /data". I don't know what to do so I just reboot and re-run the backup process, but it still gave me the same error. I then boot into my phone and realized something... my free memory space has lessened to around 2GB only! I then decided not to make the backup and just flash my ROM to AOKP. I thought this will clear the problem, but it's not.
So, my question is, how to clear this used space? I checked in the nandroid backup folder and found absolutely nothing there, so it must be somewhere else... Any help would be appreciated! Thanks in advance
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Just as you said, it must be somewhere. Check other folders or even the rood of the virtual SD card. If you still don't find anything you may have to factory reset the device and wipe the SD card partition. Before you jump the gun though, make sure (assuming you're using windows as your PC OS, show hidden folders.
Did you check of have a Clockworkmod folder? Each time you create a backup, it creates a new folder with a new time stamp.
Use a file manager to delete the unnecessary or aborted backups. The backup folder should be visible with having to use an app such as Root Explorer.

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