Something is eating my internal memory... - Hero CDMA General

Something is eating my internal memory. I'm aware of the BT issue, but I don't use BT... it has to be something else. Any pointers on how to track this down?

What do you mean by "eating"?
Apps and app data use internal memory.

jonnythan said:
What do you mean by "eating"?
Apps and app data use internal memory.
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Yeah. but not at 5mb/day when I don't install anything.

I have also seen this. For example. I was up to 115 meg now I am at 100 meg with the same apps installed. I do use BT but I also know when I need to flush out the core files so that is not the issue. What I have noticed is when I use the browser or set up my email account is when I see the drop. I have gone to apps and deleted cache but have also learned when I do that on Mail, Browser and contacts I lose all my contacts, mail settings and bookmarks. I cannot believe those would eat up 10 meg of space. If I keep using these programs will my internal memory keep getting lower and lower. I also just started using peep yesterday, and that is when it dropped from about 105 to 100.

You can empty the browser cache by going into Settings in the Browser and hitting "Clear cache."

Go into Applications in the Settings menu. Go to all the apps you use, and hit "Clear data" Problem solved.

someone should make a app that does this automaticly if there isnt one yet.

I had this same problem. I went back to Best Buy and got a new replacement. The new phone even had the EVDO Rev A, instead of the Rev 0, and the new one has "with Google" on the back.
I have read that there were a large bad batch of these phones, and that there were issues with them.
I also read that there are also other issues involving SMS/Text and Bluetooth that may or not be related to this.
If you can, go to where you bought it and get a replacement, if at all possible.
Just my thoughts!

The phone I have does have Rev 1 and with google on the back so I don't think that is my issue. I also have no dust problem. I just see the memory drop daily and unless I go and clear cache daily it won't come back. This should not be nec IMO. There is not much left on the phone with nothing installed and seems to me using APP2SD we should not ever fall below 115-110. My wifes Moment has the same apps and she has about 220 left on hers

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Yahoo GO - Memory Leak?

I've been using Yahoo Go for Email/Contacts/Task/Calender/Photo retrieval and syncing between my Yahoo account and my TyTn. It's great mainly because it supports email folder access/syncing with my Yahoo Email account using the native WM5 mail client.
The issue i'm having is that it seems like the yconnections.exe program that is the guts of the thing seems like it has a memory leak or something. If I softboot my phone, yconnections.exe uses approx 430k of memory and the heap size is 150k, assuming the values are in KB, as per SKTools.
Note: Other (native WM5) programs also seem to use more and more memory as time goes on (gwes.exe, filesys.exe, etc) and i'm not sure if this is normal also?
Over a day or so the memory and heap size can increase dramatically (many MB's), to the point where there is so little free memory that a WM5 dialog box will pop up warning me of low memory and asking me to close applications to free up memory. At this point, I usually need to softboot.
Anyone have a similar experience or can explain whats happening? Also, can anyone explain the difference between "size" and "heap" as it relates to SKTools process information?
Thanks,
C
I can confirm the memory leak... I was attributing the leak to Active Sync till I installed a free task manager.
The Yahoo go application runs in the background and fetches emails on a user defined frequency.
I noticed that the application keeps increasing in size/footprint while active and the free memory on my phone goes from ~19 MB post install to less than ~4 MB within a couple (usually within 6 to 7 hours) of hours of use.
wow, you're totally right... this thing is leaking memory... is this yahoo's fault or the phones fault.
anyone else have ethis problem?
christian15213 said:
wow, you're totally right... this thing is leaking memory... is this yahoo's fault or the phones fault.
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I don't use that yahoo go, but i have the same problem, even properly shutting down active programs doesn't sort it, when my memory gets low, i delete the 'previously viewed' web content in IE and soft reset, that brings the memory back up. Its a pain in the arse!
I downloaded the task manager (look for it on this forum) and use that to kill Yahoo Go!... so far I haven't needed to soft-reset since yesterday afternoon (usually had to do that every night to keep the phone stable and usable). Additionally, I currently have ~21 MB of free RAM to run my programs in.
I used the IE hack to move all the cache, history and cookie storage to my SD card, that helps a lot when browsing the web.
I also have SPB Pocket Plus installed that kills the programs on close (similar to the HTC close/X program); rather that the windows default behavior to minimize them.
Any one have a fix for the Yahoo Go! memory leak??
This is been a problem for it since it was released for Windows Mobile. I had it on my 8125 and it was terrible. I had to soft reset to actually get it to stop using memory. I haven't used it since.

HTC Mogul memory decrease over the course of a day

What is up with the memory drain on this device. I'll start the day with 24mb of memory (soft reset) and only have 10mb or less at the end of the day with no apps but activesync running. Has anyone less notice this?
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What is up with the memory drain on this device. I'll start the day with 24mb of memory (soft reset) and only have 10mb or less at the end of the day with no apps but activesync running. Has anyone less notice this?
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Yea I get the same problem. Except I start off with about 20 and end up with as low as 9 before i'm forced to soft reset.
Its the magic of the Mogul's memory leak. The old rom and new rom feature it so untill a new update comes out, were stuck with it.
Does the Hermes and Kaiser have the same issue? They seem to be similar. They other thing is that the WM6 is suppose to have made those apps that leak in previous versions run at the kernel level.
my titan doesnt have the issue. its an app you've got installed. hard reset and dont install anything, you wont have the problem. troubleshooting 101. dont blame the titan.
I posted this on another forum discussing this problem, so I'll just quote myself here:
The memory "leak" thing is nothing more than a cache "optimization" in place to make the device respond snappier.
Whether it succeeds or not is another story altogether...
Basically, like any cache, it stores recent calculations for faster response later. For example, if you open and close IE alot, you might notice that the first time you open it on a fresh restart takes a little bit longer than the next times- that's because the second time you start it up, parts of it are still in memory from the first time!
You might be wondering why this happens even after forcing it closed with Xbutton or the memory settings. That's because the info stored in the performance cache aren't directly related to any one program! Many apps can use the same routines and calculations, and therefore this process exists on a processor/file system layer as opposed to a software layer, and therefore also exists even when all programs are closed!
Meaning, if I have mapopolis that uses a certain routine to access my BT GPS receiver, even after I close it, some of that routine stays in memory because perhaps Google Maps will use the same routine, and therefore respond faster!
Now, ideally, this should speed up performance, and it SHOULD disappear on its own if the memory is needed and the information goes "stale" (hasn't been processed in a while = not really needed for optimized perfomance). However, one look at the way Microsoft handles "automatically closing apps" (native X button, anyone?) is enough to know that WM can't manage its own memory very well.
I can, however, vouch for the fact that the longer you leave all programs closed, the more of your memory starts to creep back into available. I've sat and watched this happen. So, it sort of works, but perhaps not well enough if people are having low memory system crash problems.
Now, before you all start blaming MS for this... Its not Microsoft's problem. They developed CE-5 (which WM6 is based on) on machines limited to 32MB to make sure the programmers didn't get lazy with OS bloat.
Its the manufacturers who add all this file system optimization and stuff to their final device. In this case, its the way HTC thinks the system should run, which is why this anomaly is NOT as apparent on, say, a WM Treo device.
The good news is that if we complain enough, HTC might realize this optimization does more bad than good, and leave it out on the next ROM update for us.
However, truth be told, I think it works. The Mogul is one of the snappiest PPC's I've used of late, although I can't say for sure if its because of the cache or not.
This is just my personal opinion, so don't flog me! I just don't look at the memory useage anymore unless I'm having a problem, which mind you, I hardly do.
My most recent observations were this:
Soft reset gives me ~21MB (got some htc plugins), and after a day of use, making sure to close everything after I'm done, I get 18-19MB. At lowest, I hit 10MB after closing alot of apps. This memory usually comes back to 18-19mb in a matter of time for me. If for some strange reason it doesn't (can't say how often this happens), I soft reset.
All in all, I'm happy with the Mogul.
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I wasn't blaming the Titan directly, although I wish they would allow you to adjust the memory like they have in the past. But as I've read that may having something to do with chipset of battery consumption.
I was just wondering if others had the same issue and might know of the reason.
Is there a list of known apps that cause memory 'drain' or don't clear their cache. I can understand apps caching data into memory to run faster, but they are not cleaning themselves out upon exit. The strange thing is how they continue to grow over the course of the day with no interaction.
I'm doing a hard reset to see if it get better. Add apps one at a time until I find an issue.
Ok did a hard reset. Setup Outlook to get my mail from Exchange and Gmail. Let it get synced and then did a soft reset. Started with 24mb after reset, down to 21mb without doing anything after an hour and it's still falling. The only thing running is ActiveSync. I've also removed htc_cm_guardain and ssdaemon from the startup. The only thing in startup is poutlook.
The thing I noticed when I had handyswitcher installed (before hard reset) was that filesys, device, gwes, services, shell and cprog all continously increased there memory consumption over the course of a few hours and never stopped or released it.
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I wasn't blaming the Titan directly, although I wish they would allow you to adjust the memory like they have in the past. But as I've read that may having something to do with chipset of battery consumption.
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No no no... the reason you used to be able to select storage vs RAM was because it was SHARED memory! It was actually all RAM. If you had a 64MB device, that 64mb was split between ram and storage, and just like the rest of your RAM, it would wipe out when the battery died!
Ever since WM5 came along, they stopped sharing the memory, and now have dedicated RAM and Storage (using the leftover space on the EPROM chips used for the ROM image), much like a computer. This is a much better solution since you don't sacrifice your RAM for storing some large files, and you don't have to worry about battery failure cleaning you out!
Also, its not the apps that have cache, its the file system. The file system WILL actually free up some of that memory as the device is left with all apps closed for a while (maybe not all of it, but I've watched my device go from 11mb free after closing stuff to 18-19mb).
You guys need to hit the easy button on this one! It may not be a permanent fix, but there's a small freeware called Oxios Hibernate that releases RAM. I just put it on my start menu and 2 clicks....I have free RAM. Try it out, you won't be disappointed.
bam, thanks for the info... that little app rocks.
use a file explorer and go to \Windows\Startup. There is a shortcut there for a program along the lines of HTC_Guardian_cmsomething. This app is a htc app used to enforce sprint settings and runs in the background. So long as you don't destroy your phone internet settings you can just remove the shortcut. I found all my memory leak issues have gone away. I don't have any leaks when using the kaiser tab plugin.
Yes I've removed the links for HTC_Guardian and SSDaemon from startup and added them to my settings folder (if I ever need them). I soft reset to around 25mb and the Oxios Hibernate app keeps me around 24.5mb.
what does SDdaemon do?
sddaemon is suppose to be the speed dial or voice command app you get when you hit the button on the left side with the talk bubble. It loads the app if you hit the button, so I'm not sure why they have it in startup.
On my old Treo 700W, which REALLY had a memory problem, I used Oxios hibernate all the time. It works quite well.
yes, it works.
bam099 said:
You guys need to hit the easy button on this one! It may not be a permanent fix, but there's a small freeware called Oxios Hibernate that releases RAM. I just put it on my start menu and 2 clicks....I have free RAM. Try it out, you won't be disappointed.
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you know what might help...if windows mobile had some sorta sorta disk caching feature...
that's what is causing the memory leak.
great tips. thanks.
hansolos said:
Yes I've removed the links for HTC_Guardian and SSDaemon from startup and added them to my settings folder (if I ever need them). I soft reset to around 25mb and the Oxios Hibernate app keeps me around 24.5mb.
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internet cache to sd card?? must have...

I can't believe no1 has mentioned this...at least not to my knowledge...as I browse throughxda and android forums. Internal storage is under 60 mgs for me and the browser eats it up real quick up 2 20 or 30 mgs...I def would likke 2 see that option...
cookzitall said:
I can't believe no1 has mentioned this...at least not to my knowledge...as I browse throughxda and android forums. Internal storage is under 60 mgs for me and the browser eats it up real quick up 2 20 or 30 mgs...I def would likke 2 see that option...
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I'm second to this notion. It's rediculuous that the browser cache (usually the largest) is not stored in the microSD card.
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I can't believe no1 has mentioned this...at least not to my knowledge...as I browse throughxda and android forums. Internal storage is under 60 mgs for me and the browser eats it up real quick up 2 20 or 30 mgs...I def would likke 2 see that option...
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Yeah that should be in the next cache, just like pc syncing... that would be sweet
Ummm what are you talking about? Maybe you have too many programs on your phone because I can use the browser just fine and have had over 600 messages on my phone... even some MMS messages.
neoobs said:
Ummm what are you talking about? Maybe you have too many programs on your phone because I can use the browser just fine and have had over 600 messages on my phone... even some MMS messages.
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Same here not showing any memory issues with the phone and have a lot of txt messages and MMS as well as quite a few programs installed.
It's not about a memory issue. The fact is HTC/T-mobile/Google made a stupid mistake by not giving this phone larger internal storage. Earlier today I had my phone slow on me because the browser cache had taken up all of the internal mem, I had to install a few apps just to reopen the browser so I could clear the cache. The fact that they KNEW the phone only had 60megs (which is sad on a phone of this calibre) for internal storage, and didn't make it so all storage of all kind was immediately transferred to the SD card is just annoying. This phone was like 5 to 10 OBVIOUS moves from being a damn near perfect phone Imagine the G1...as is...plus:
- 3.5mm jack ON TOP.
- Mini USB port moved to the side or top as not to impede typing while charging.
- 4-8GBs of internal storage..or even 2GBs
- Virtual keypad for quick typing with one hand.
- File Manager
- Complete video player with multiple codec support (Seriously, no AVI? WMV? even MOV?)
- constantly active accelerometer
- True IM on par with the IM client on the SK or better.
- and a personal nitpick...sliding finger across photos to swith from photo to photo.
with just those fixes...though there are indeed other 'issues' with the phone, but if those were implemented in the final design...we'd have a true iPhone killer (I think Android ****s on OSX, but the G1 < iPhone.
... I have yet to have any real issues. I had a message come up once because I installed every app in the market and it just said I had 10% storage left. I see no problem with the 60meg storage for now as I am sure in the future it will let us use internal storage.
As for the headphone jack... give it up this isn't an MP3 player it is a phone. If I wanted an MP3 player I would have bought a creative zen... oh wait I did.
Virtual keyboard is in the work... same with a video recorder/player... wow who would have thought. At which time I am sure the file manager will be coming out also.
So far this isn't even a final design... hence the RC in our versions. This is a release candidate... meaning "hey we need to work on it some more but it is good enough to release and get your opinions on what needs work" This phone is basically for developers and advanced users right now so that we can get our hands on it and figure out what we need to make.
I don't know what ya see on ur phones but when I first got my phone ad put about 2 or 3 new apps on it I still had 71 mb free of internal storage memory,it's about 30 below that now because of all the apps and games I downloaded but I still don't see any problems with my phone slowing down. For the internet cache what helped me a little was going into settings/manage apps/browser I realised that there was 8 mbs being taken up by data so I cleared the data and got 8 mbs back in internal storage memory free and didn't mess up my browser in any way, hopes this helps ya.
I have over 25 app installed on my g1 and my memory is at 58mgs ...the problem is that I dnt want to have to clear my browser history ever single time I use the internet...ya kno? I think internet cache to sd would be a big plus to this phone..thinkkabout it...u can surf for hours without worring about ne low mem msgs popping up....I honestly can see y ne1 would be against this
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I have over 25 app installed on my g1 and my memory is at 58mgs ...the problem is that I dnt want to have to clear my browser history ever single time I use the internet...ya kno? I think internet cache to sd would be a big plus to this phone..thinkkabout it...u can surf for hours without worring about ne low mem msgs popping up....I honestly can see y ne1 would be against this
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I don't think we are against this. We are just wondering where you get the 60 msg limit from. Yes I would love to see that option but it looks as thou none of us have the msg limit you have. I can live without the cache being on the card for now. Especially since I can browse for hours without it telling me my memory is full... and like I said I have over 500 messages in my inbox. It is the same way cache is stored on your computer at home (thinking FF not IE) once you use up your limit (8MB on the g1 I believe) it just deletes things in the cache to give you more space. If it didn't you wouldn't be able to go much further than 1 or 2 graphic intense sites.
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I don't think we are against this. We are just wondering where you get the 60 msg limit from. Yes I would love to see that option but it looks as thou none of us have the msg limit you have. I can live without the cache being on the card for now. Especially since I can browse for hours without it telling me my memory is full... and like I said I have over 500 messages in my inbox. It is the same way cache is stored on your computer at home (thinking FF not IE) once you use up your limit (8MB on the g1 I believe) it just deletes things in the cache to give you more space. If it didn't you wouldn't be able to go much further than 1 or 2 graphic intense sites.
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first of all lets get this straight
mgs = megs = megabytes
msg = messages
the phone has 60 megabytes of internal memory when you install apps they are saved on the internal memory when you use youtube and browse the internet the cache is saved on the internal memory
cookzitall is not saying anything about messages hes talking about memory
right not i have about 40mb of memory left if i browse the web and use youtube it can go down to 10-20mb this slows down the phone
if we could save cache to sdcard you could have cache without slowing your phone
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first of all lets get this straight
mgs = megs = megabytes
msg = messages
the phone has 60 megabytes of internal memory when you install apps they are saved on the internal memory when you use youtube and browse the internet the cache is saved on the internal memory
cookzitall is not saying anything about messages hes talking about memory
right not i have about 40mb of memory left if i browse the web and use youtube it can go down to 10-20mb this slows down the phone
if we could save cache to sdcard you could have cache without slowing your phone
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awww that is where we got confused. I didn't know mgs was megabytes since we us MB for that. msg is a common shortcut for message. With the biggest App being 4MB I don't see that big of an issue. And if you limit your cache correctly you shouldn't have issues either.
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It's not about a memory issue. The fact is HTC/T-mobile/Google made a stupid mistake by not giving this phone larger internal storage. Earlier today I had my phone slow on me because the browser cache had taken up all of the internal mem, I had to install a few apps just to reopen the browser so I could clear the cache. The fact that they KNEW the phone only had 60megs (which is sad on a phone of this calibre) for internal storage, and didn't make it so all storage of all kind was immediately transferred to the SD card is just annoying. This phone was like 5 to 10 OBVIOUS moves from being a damn near perfect phone Imagine the G1...as is...plus:
- 3.5mm jack ON TOP.
- Mini USB port moved to the side or top as not to impede typing while charging.
- 4-8GBs of internal storage..or even 2GBs
- Virtual keypad for quick typing with one hand.
- File Manager
- Complete video player with multiple codec support (Seriously, no AVI? WMV? even MOV?)
- constantly active accelerometer
- True IM on par with the IM client on the SK or better.
- and a personal nitpick...sliding finger across photos to swith from photo to photo.
with just those fixes...though there are indeed other 'issues' with the phone, but if those were implemented in the final design...we'd have a true iPhone killer (I think Android ****s on OSX, but the G1 < iPhone.
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But how would they get you to buy the G2 if the G1 was perfect
Yea thanx for clearing that up haitiankid...
This is really becoming a problem...especially with the market expanding to as big as 8 MB(mgs) lol ... I have a total of 24 apps installed with only 4 that r over a mg and my mem is at 53 MB....that's comparable to my wing..which is sad bc this phone shouldn't even be mentioned in the same sentence as the wing...just hitting a few forums on xda brings my mem down to 46 MB..and that's just me browsing the dream pages....that to me is insifficant...
I also noticed that there is a slight mem leaking happening...or maybe sum settings r stealing the memory but its unlikely....when I hardreset my phone and install all my apps my mem is at 57 MB....4MB more than the previous 53 that I was showing....maybe sum1 can relate or explain....
yeah the internet cache clearing is a issue, and yes the device should have more internal memory, and yes it should have internet cache on the storage card
if you go to settings -> applications -> manage applications
you can see how much storage all of your storage your programs use. even though you download an app thats about 500kb it takes up more space because apps save user data (even though its not much, it still adds up)
for example if you download one og the notepad apps off of the market thats about 50kb but depending on how many notes you store it can go from 50 to 100kb but thats not much
most of the storage is used for cache for apps that came with the phone like the browser, maps and youtube.

Laggy Phone

My phones lately been acting funny
programs have been fore closing and its been laggy and idk why i did put any new apps..
dont know what iv did different i never did anything i have dxtop but it never did anything before
my phones moded and rooted and all the other stuff JF released
If you have a lot of apps or if you're running low on internal phone memory, it would cause your phone to lag. There is also a couple more reasons, I just can't think of em at the moment. =/
You ned task manager. Look which programs you've got running, may be you don't need some of them. I know for sure that "phonebook" app and "mybackup" app are some serious memory hogs, my phone was acting all goofy, uninstalled those two-problems are gone and forgotten.
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You ned task manager. Look which programs you've got running, may be you don't need some of them. I know for sure that "phonebook" app and "mybackup" app are some serious memory hogs, my phone was acting all goofy, uninstalled those two-problems are gone and forgotten.
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And i happen to have both of them..........well how do I check my internal memory..I have dxtop memory widget and always says around 24 to 26 mb free of memory..so u think i should remove those 2 apps? i mean my back up i can always reinstall but i have that nadroid backup thing when i got my phone rooted to do a full system backup to my sd card
tanner2007 said:
And i happen to have both of them..........well how do I check my internal memory..I have dxtop memory widget and always says around 24 to 26 mb free of memory..so u think i should remove those 2 apps? i mean my back up i can always reinstall but i have that nadroid backup thing when i got my phone rooted to do a full system backup to my sd card
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Don't quote me on that but....
24-26 mb of memory is probably available for app installs (that would be system/data/data part of your phone). Running programs occupying different part of the memory, think of it as a RAM memory on the computer. Android has it's own program to decide which processes will run in the background and which wont but it's too immature at the moment. It'll get better with time.
With that said, phonebook, mybackup and in your case dxtop are all running constantly on your phone along with gmail, myfaves (whether you like it or not), maps, messaging, and bunches of others. Something is coded in them to prevent android to shut them down. Lock 2.0 is another one that runs in the backround all the time but it's not that memory hungry and doing just fine by itself.
The best way to check what's running is to download "Task Manager for root users" from the market (it's free). It will show which programs are running at the time. Click on any program and it will show the option to shut that program down. but if you shut down phonebook and hit refresh you'll see that it will restart itsef.
I suggest that you get rid of the phonebook, it looks very very nice but can't make it default so what's the point? Backup is waste of space too, you can back up all the info other ways so again, what's the point?
Good luck, I'm sure you can figure it out and reclaim the speed that G1 is capable of. Sorry for taking so long to get to the point.
Oh yeah, Imeem will run in the background indefenately as well.
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Don't quote me on that but....
24-26 mb of memory is probably available for app installs (that would be system/data/data part of your phone). Running programs occupying different part of the memory, think of it as a RAM memory on the computer. Android has it's own program to decide which processes will run in the background and which wont but it's too immature at the moment. It'll get better with time.
With that said, phonebook, mybackup and in your case dxtop are all running constantly on your phone along with gmail, myfaves (whether you like it or not), maps, messaging, and bunches of others. Something is coded in them to prevent android to shut them down. Lock 2.0 is another one that runs in the backround all the time but it's not that memory hungry and doing just fine by itself.
The best way to check what's running is to download "Task Manager for root users" from the market (it's free). It will show which programs are running at the time. Click on any program and it will show the option to shut that program down. but if you shut down phonebook and hit refresh you'll see that it will restart itsef.
I suggest that you get rid of the phonebook, it looks very very nice but can't make it default so what's the point? Backup is waste of space too, you can back up all the info other ways so again, what's the point?
Good luck, I'm sure you can figure it out and reclaim the speed that G1 is capable of. Sorry for taking so long to get to the point.
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Well got rid of phone book and my backup since i can always back up my full system
and I already have advance task manager and i can close all the applicatiosn running but not proccess or services with that said I always have close everything app and run that once in a while
I noticed that with dxtop(trial) that every time I went to the home screen, either by hitting home button or backing out of an app, there was a lot of lag. And this is before the little countdown timer the trial has in it.
Uninstalled and am in the process of trying out the other two home replacement apps. Dont have that problem with them. If you are still having issues might try unistalling dxtop.
I probably shouldn't even ask because it was covered many times but.... do you have your caches on sd and if not do you clear them often?
how do i close programs running in the background. i know i have to hold home, but wat do i do to close them.
borodin1 said:
I probably shouldn't even ask because it was covered many times but.... do you have your caches on sd and if not do you clear them often?
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I have not heard this..where and how?
kay11224 said:
how do i close programs running in the background. i know i have to hold home, but wat do i do to close them.
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Same here I can close applications in backgrounmd but not services or processes
tanner2007 said:
I have not heard this..where and how?
Same here I can close applications in backgrounmd but not services or processes
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1) Anyone?
2) would anyone happen to know which home alternative uses more memory?
dxTop
http://dxtop.wikidot.com/
or
Open Home Lite
http://betterandroid.wordpress.com/
(scroll down to second post)

Help: Phone says Low on Space

Hey guys, I recently updated to 2.3.4 found here yesterday:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1219407
Ever since, my phone has been saying:
"Low on space: Phone storage space is getting low."
I've deleted a bunch of apps and the notification will go away briefly only to return a few minutes later. What can I do?
Should I try installing this one:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1221972
Or is there something else I should do?
Thanks in advanced!
OH,OH,OH,OH,OH, I know the answer to this one. It happens to me all the time. My stock message app which you can't get rid of for any mms sms to work defaults to keeping attachments on phone storage. When that happens it moves it all to the phone storage and you get that message. I also found if your always trying new roms that the camera will default to phone storage too. Go change that all to sd card and then remove the pictures and attachments. Get a cache cleaner run that and you hopefully will be good to go. That is what I find works for me. Let me know how it goes.
You should check your data/data partition with root explorer or terminal emulator (I think the command is df -h data/data). Maybe watch your dialer and messaging storage too, go to settings>applications>manage applications and look through all your apps and check their data and cache. Delete whatever is using too much space.
I am running the one in your second link right now. No low space but I only loaded it up 6 or 8 hours ago. Move what ever apps you can to your SD card also
Htc jammed so much into the ota that it takes up about 240 ish of the 250 available memory so yea..you don't have that much memory lol
/droid3
had the same thing happen while running nils business gingersense ROM, but found an easy fix with my contacts storage
1. settings- sync- turn off sync temporarily
2. manage applications- clear data on Contacts Storage
3. settings- sync- recheck whatever you unchecked
4. let the phone do the work
fixed me right up
I started using a cache cleaner and it made a difference.
Im rooted though..

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