Currently have the droid and not overly impressed. To be hones, aside from Google Nav, I'm already pretty bored with it. Seems like most people that opted for the Eris love it, whereas most Droid owners are mostly complaining.
Still in my 30 days with Verizon and am considering swapping out for the Eris, but not sure if it would be a step backward from a hardware perspective. I love the fact that it is HTC based and therefore the options of custom ROM's, etc. when made available is great. However, I'm somewhat skeptical about the seemingly dated hardware it is running on.
Any Eris owners that have some experience using both that can post why they chose the Eris? Is Sense UI that big of a deal?
Thanks in advance...
In my opinion the eris is a great phone so far. My buddy who is a iPhone user played with it today and he was very impressed by it. I do think the sence UI makes a world of difference. I have not used the moto droid yet, but if you not happy than I would think about switching. Goodluck
I love my eris, I only have 1 complant about it. The damn preinstalled apps that htc puts on there. I really feel that the inability to uninstall those apps go against the spirit of android and its open source roots
I would say that sense and all the other HTC improvements such as multitouch web browser are what the eris have going for it. The droid's processor would really be the only thing that I would like in my hero or your eris. The keyboard on that phone was horrible. I tried it out for a day and couldn't get to liking that hardware keyboard at all and software is worse than HTC. So it's interface or processor.
why are so many of these threads poping up?
Do you want us to convince you into getting the Eris?
Try to do your own research, go to a Verizion store and mess with the Eris or check sites like droiddog.com where they go through every last detail about the damn thing.
remember google is your friend
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I've been visiting xda forums as a windows mobile user for years. I just ordered a Droid X last week but now I'm thinking about canceling it and ordering the Fascinate (which I didn't find out about until after ordering).
I think the Droid X fits my needs better at this time but I'm worried that Motorola's efforts against ROM developers will doom the phone. Looking at the visitor counts across xda forums did nothing to help my perception. I know that sounds crazy but ROM updates made my Windows Mobile phones much easier to use, more reliable and greatly extended my use of the phones. An example would be how internet connection sharing became effortless instead of almost impossible.
My roommate has one of the other flavors of the Galaxy S (which is what the Facinate is), and I honestly like the Droid X a bit better. You're basically worried about nothing at all, man. Motorola's efforts have basically proven to be fruitless. The Droid X got rooted like a week after it came out, and we're very close to having a "Vanilla" AOSP 2.2 ROM. At this point we have Recovery and root and Froyo. What more do you really need?
Xda isn't as popular when it comes to Android phones. I am a former Windows user myself. There are other forums that are more popular when it comes to Android, such as androidforums.com and droidxforums.com
Honestly I had the captivate (same thing but for att) but I wasnt a huge fan of the phone. It feels kind of cheap compared to the x. Also, it scratched easier. That, and it is noticeably slower (for me at least). The only thing I did like was the screen. The amoled is gorgeous.
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Thanks for responses. I agree the Captivate seems less well built. The reason I went with the Droid X is my hope to avoid some of the problems I've had with HTC phones the last 6 years. I was fine until I broke something, after that I was in Assurion hell with refurbs that all had issues.
It's reassuring to know that there will be ROMs. As long as there is at least one it should future proof the phone.
The GPS issue with the Galaxy S phones does not seem to be resolved whereas the Droid X is apparently one of the best GPS phones ever.
The more colorful screen and faster 3D performance doesn't mean that much to me given the Droid X's performance out of the box.
I only burned ROMs on my HTC phones to solve major problems caused by carrier bloatware, pointless restrictions and failure to update. I guess the issue I'm worried about is Motorola/Verizon failing to update to a new version of Android sometime in the next 2 years.
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I guess the issue I'm worried about is Motorola/Verizon failing to update to a new version of Android sometime in the next 2 years.
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Well that should be the least of your worries when discussing the X or any future Moto devices running Android. I also know for certain they are already working on Andorid 3.0 for certain devices already. Part of the problem the mfgs and carriers are having is that Google keeps pushing Android out so quickly they can't keep up with updating all current devices to the new OS's let alone work on and designing new devices with the most current OS. I mean think about Google has had 3 major updates (2.0,2.1, currently 2.2) to Android in less then a yrs time, and they are working on the 4th (3.0) already. It's no wonder the carriers and mfgs can't keep everything up to date for all devices.
Anywhoo as mentioned already with the X having Root access, and custom ROMS in the works personally I wouldn't be to concerned at all.
Thanks for the supportive posts, because the Android modification world is new to me it wasn't clear to me that ROM developers were working with the Droid X. I read all the posts in the developer section here and understand that people are already running alternative ROMs.
I went over to the GPS threads regarding the Samsung and that was enough to convince me to stay with the Droid X. I'm careful when picking out new phones as I try to stay with them for 2 years.
Anyway, my Droid X (ordered on the 22rd) is on its way.
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Thanks for the supportive posts, because the Android modification world is new to me it wasn't clear to me that ROM developers were working with the Droid X. I read all the posts in the developer section here and understand that people are already running alternative ROMs.
I went over to the GPS threads regarding the Samsung and that was enough to convince me to stay with the Droid X. I'm careful when picking out new phones as I try to stay with them for 2 years.
Anyway, my Droid X (ordered on the 22rd) is on its way.
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Good to hear and welcome to the Android community, hopefully you will enjoy the fun moving forward. I'm running a fully modified ROM myself already also and it is much nicer then the ROM that was sent out on the device that is for sure.
I've gotta say give you credit tho. To keep a device for 2 yrs is a long time this day and age. I'm lucky to make is 6 months and I'm on to something new as I'm bored of the old device by then. I've enjoy the Droid long enough and currently using the X for now, just waiting for the D2 to show up so I have something else to mess with and swap back and forth between. Once it shows I guess it will be time to let the Droid go as it had a good run in my book. Peace
Making it 2 years on the same device takes discipline and with my latest phone it may have been counter productive. The Touch Pro's screen is 2.7 inch and the only browsing I did on it was Opera Mini with bookmarked sites that happen to display well on the tiny screen. If you go out 2 years they usually have stopped production so the refurbs are old themselves. The last few Assurion Touch Pro refurbs all developed an oily patch on the screen after a few months. Good riddance to the Touch Pro although it was a big improvement over the XV6700. Verizon has lowered the impetus for holding on for 2 years now that the every 2 is only $50. I think the TP was the last phone I'll keep that long.
i can tell you from experience, sometimes my vibrant's GPS doesn't work AT ALL and i really do miss the camera flash that i have on my droid x....not so much for the camera but i use it all the time as a flashlight, really handy feature. of course that will be a moot point with the fascinate as it will have the led flash.....it's a tough choice, i do like both phones though i rarely use my vibrant, mainly because i have NO tmobile 3g where i now live.
I've now had the DX for 4 days. Absolutely love it. I installed both Logmein Ignition and Xtralogic Remote Desktop. Today a customer needed help, no need to pull out my netbook and tether, just went right to her desktop and fixed the problem right on the DX. I rooted and renamed the crapware apps to .bak, installed what I think will be most of the apps I'll be using. This phone took me 1/10th the time it took to get a Windows Mobile phone to do what I needed. One thing I'm appreciating is the better build quality of the Motorola vs the HTC's I've been using the past 6 years. So far there really is nothing negative for me about the phone. That's a first after years of tussling with Windows Mobile and Treos.
Good to hear that you are enjoying your X with no issues.
I got a Fascinate on launch day last Thursday, but I am planning to return it tomorrow and order an X. I will reactivate my Droid 1 while I wait for the X. I will miss the 4" SAMOLED screen on the Fascinate for sure, but I'm sure I will like the X too.
I had similar thoughts when I ordered my X but all doubts were whipped away once it got here, Im not even rooted yet and I already love this phone my only complaints have been how short the freaking charging cable is. also I've been less than impressed with the camera but I think that can be tweaked.
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I have both. I love my Incredible, I like this phone except that I want new ROMs for it (Vanilla!) and to be able to upgrade the kernel, etc
Is this ever going to be possible on this phone? I've heard the rumors that it's not ever really going to take off in development.
Hardware wise, this phone is perfect, IMO. But not being able to dink with it like I do my DINC is a MAJOR drawback. I hate blur (sense is by far the best OEM UI - the samsung one is the worst by a longshot), but can live with some aspects of it. Let me use an ASOP rom, for the love of god!
I'm used to SkyRaider, Virtuous, Cyanogen, etc as options but this one has "Froyo and Deodexed" as the only real option. Perhaps when the official 2.2 is out? I just don't want to waste my time with it if I'm going to just never be able to customize it the way I want.
If you have a inc wait for the next gen large moto phone to come out. I love this phone but unless u have a eris or a d1 I wouldnt say its worth almost 600 bucks to get, especially when u allready have a inc in hand.
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I'm sorta in a similar boat. I got an incredible a few weeks back and although I like the device, I have my issues. I initiated an exchange yesterday and just waiting on the x to arrive.
You seem to be attached to custom roms which the incredible is a safer bet with. The X doesn't have much yet and you'd be gambling on them arriving. And if you're not getting an upgrade cost then I doubt it makes sense. The X isn't a huge upgrade imo.
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I'm sorta in a similar boat. I got an incredible a few weeks back and although I like the device, I have my issues. I initiated an exchange yesterday and just waiting on the x to arrive.
You seem to be attached to custom roms which the incredible is a safer bet with. The X doesn't have much yet and you'd be gambling on them arriving. And if you're not getting an upgrade cost then I doubt it makes sense. The X isn't a huge upgrade imo.
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Cost isn't a factor, I just really want something I can force to do my bidding. Im not switching phones, I can obtain any phone I like (literally the only perk of my job), but I don't want to switch all my crap over to this phone if there will be non-existent dev support for it
With the droid x rooted, and ota froyo just around the corner, you can lighten it enough to do just what you want. The platform is useable enough without having to dink with it too much. A vanilla rom is bound to show up, with as quick as the community is moving these days. A locked bootloader is rather inconsequential anymore.
Hey sorry to post this up but I needed a opinion. My friend wants a new andfoid phone on verizon. Ehats the best choice for him... I told him get a droid x cause the fascinate has slow updates...
Input is appreciated!!
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Wait for dual core phones to hit verizon.
If he's new to android and wants a stock phone with google that works fairly well,i say get the dx. If he wants to get into rooting and likes a slighty smaller phone that is faster get the fascinate.
I had both and even with the gps problems i still would choose the fascinate.
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Hey sorry to post this up but I needed a opinion. My friend wants a new andfoid phone on verizon. Ehats the best choice for him... I told him get a droid x cause the fascinate has slow updates...
Input is appreciated!!
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That's a pretty crappy reason to suggest a device.
I got the Fascinate because IMO, the screen is superior, and I like the overall look/feel of the device better than the X.
Froyo is just gravy when it lands.
There's no way for us to know what's best for him.
I had an x. The fascinate is smoother, better screen but feels cheap. Forget about real modding for a few years till froyo comes out.
X is awaiting gingerbread while were still awaiting Froyo!
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Thanks guys i appreciate the input!! Think ill tell hgim to hold off for another month or two.
I feel like we'll have Froyo by the end of the year, and if the news about Samsung devices getting Gingerbread first holds true, we'd have that before The Droid X gets the update.
The changelog for dj05 said its an update before next years Froyo release so a month at least would be a good call
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Honestly, I'd base it largely on device size preference, because fanboy-ism aside the Droid Incredible (3.7" screen), the Fascinate (4") and the Droid X (4.3") are all excellent devices with similar specs. And each have their own advantages and disadvantages.
The Incredible has a subpar GPU but uses the near-universally acclaimed Sense UI.
The Fascinate gets bloated with Bing and TouchWiz and Samsung isn't the best at updating software but it has (overall) the best hardware specs.
The Droid X also comes bloated with the less-than-ideal Motoblur UI, plus the phone itself is shaped a bit oddly for most peoples' pockets.
But quirks aside, chances are someone new to Android would be perfectly happy with any of the three devices.
Or, of course, you can wait for new devices. It certainly looks like Tegra 2 (dual core) devices will dramatically outperform anything on the market today. But, and this is a big but, you may be stuck waiting until mid-2011 when Verizon starts rolling out LTE phones. It's hard to say at this point whether or not they'll put out more high-end 3G Android phones when LTE's on the horizon. Logically they'd want super-high-end launch devices for a super-high-end network, and there are only so many phones that they can release. That's not to say we definitely couldn't see a dual-core 3G device all of a sudden, but it seems increasingly unlikely.
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The changelog for dj05 said its an update before next years Froyo release so a month at least would be a good call
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Latest word is that DJ05 was scrapped due to to many issues. Also, the best way to pick a phone would be to find a store and go in and play around with the devices you're looking at. I didn't like the physical buttons on the front of the DX, and the hump at the back was odd when holding the phone.
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I get a phone, use it heavily for a day or two. If it annoys me more than I like it, I keep it. If not it goes back. The fascinate annoys me but its the lesser of all evils.
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I get a phone, use it heavily for a day or two. If it annoys me more than I like it, I keep it. If not it goes back. The fascinate annoys me but its the lesser of all evils.
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If you don't plan on unrooting it, the samsung fascinate is a piece of crap...
However, if you do, samsung's phone is probably the most flexible. But it's not necessarily a good thing for everyone. So for regular users, I don't recommend the fascinate for purple enjoy don't plan on unrooting or froyo.
I would argue the opposite, that the Fascinate would be perfect for mainstream users. Most people -- especially those new to Android -- won't notice (and therefore, be bothered by) the non-standard stuff that we power users hate (like Bing).
Even TouchWiz is good for most people -- while it isn't as polished as Sense, it definitely is simpler than stock Android. So, those same things that we love to hate -- like how TouchWiz just so happens to closely resemble iOS -- are actually pros for less technically-inclined folks.
I think CNet's review put it well:
It is certainly always good to have variety, but we also think the Fascinate is well suited for the consumer who is just getting into Android and smartphones. Samsung's custom TouchWiz interface offers an easy-to-understand presentation of menus that makes the transition from feature phone to smartphone a little easier. By the same token, we know TouchWiz isn't going to appeal to everyone, particularly Android purists and business users who might want something a little more polished and less bubbly, and for them, we'd recommend the Motorola Droid X or the HTC Droid Incredible. Still, if it's more a general all-purpose smartphone you're after, the Samsung Fascinate is a fun one to use.
Read more: http://reviews.cnet.com/smartphones...rizon/4505-6452_7-34129372.html#ixzz184PC4V93
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Lots of people really like Touchwiz. My mom thinks it's the best thing since sliced bread, although even she hates Bing.
As for what I'd recommend... the Droid X is a nice phone, but I didn't like it. It's lumpy, ugly, feels funny in my hand... and let's not forget that it's slower than the Incredible or Fascinate.
I like the Incredible... a lot. But in the end I went with the Fascinate... nicer screen won the day for me. Also Swype is GODLIKE.
I will soon be adding a third line to my Verizon account. I currently own a Droid 2(which is great). My fiancee owns an LG Ally and we're not overly impressed. The plan is to give my fiancee my D2, give her daughter the Ally, and I will be getting a new phone. My question is, which Verizon phone should I get? I'm new to smartphones overall, but learning quickly. I've had my D2 for nearly a month and have Rooted, OCed, and tried various ROMs. It's become an obsession of sorts. I'd like something that is supported by a large community but more importantly is a great device. What are some opinions on the best handsets Verizon has to offer?
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I will soon be adding a third line to my Verizon account. I currently own a Droid 2(which is great). My fiancee owns an LG Ally and we're not overly impressed. The plan is to give my fiancee my D2, give her daughter the Ally, and I will be getting a new phone. My question is, which Verizon phone should I get? I'm new to smartphones overall, but learning quickly. I've had my D2 for nearly a month and have Rooted, OCed, and tried various ROMs. It's become an obsession of sorts. I'd like something that is supported by a large community but more importantly is a great device. What are some opinions on the best handsets Verizon has to offer?
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The D2 was the first android phone I got and for the most part I really like it. Everything runs smooth the slide out keyboard is pretty good the only problem is the Bootloader is locked which turns a lot of dev's away. I would probably stick with my D2 just because of its fast processor and one of the only slide out keyboard phones on the market but when looking into the ROMs and such you may want to go with a different phone that can get different kernels.
I would go for a droid x. Essentially the same hardware as the d2 (besides a slighty newer processor version). It also has a larger screen and better camera.
True that with the efuse in motorola's phones has the bootloader is locked down tight and makes things difficult. However there are a couple of extremely good roms such as fission and squidly, and overclocking is possible.
IF you want different kernels and such, perhaps go with a droid incredible.
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I just got the HTC Incredible S a week ago and while I was checking local ads online I saw that someone is willing to trade his Atrix for my HTC.
The Atrix specs seems to be great because of the Tegra 2 but then again the screen brightness and colors seems to be washed out compared to the Incredible Super-LCD. Also the Motoblur crap turns me off but either Sense or Motoblur it doesn't really matters because I use Launcher Pro. I know that the Atrix can be rooted and the Incredible can't (at least not when it's S-ON). I want to be able to use custom ROMS and be able to update to Gingerbread.
How is the Atrix on day to day use? How is the screen? Can we remove the crap that comes with the phone so it actually feels like a dual core? I really like my HTC and I don't want to make a bad move...
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I just got the HTC Incredible S a week ago and while I was checking local ads online I saw that someone is willing to trade his Atrix for my HTC.
The Atrix specs seems to be great because of the Tegra 2 but then again the screen brightness and colors seems to be washed out compared to the Incredible Super-LCD. Also the Motoblur crap turns me off but either Sense or Motoblur it doesn't really matters because I use Launcher Pro. I know that the Atrix can be rooted and the Incredible can't (at least not when it's S-ON). I want to be able to use custom ROMS and be able to update to Gingerbread.
How is the Atrix on day to day use? How is the screen? Can we remove the crap that comes with the phone so it actually feels like a dual core? I really like my HTC and I don't want to make a bad move...
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I personally recommend the atrix. I mean what does the inspire offer. The atrix does feel like a dual core.
Can't you return the inspire within 30 days of purchase?
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I personally recommend the atrix. I mean what does the inspire offer. The atrix does feel like a dual core.
Can't you return the inspire within 30 days of purchase?
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Incredible s? Can u not read?
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Atrix has a higher resolution. More internal memory as well. 1930 mAH battery compared to the 1400. We'll get 1080p someday.
One thing to consider is the Atrix having an encrypted and locked bootloader.
i'd like to continue on this discussion... although not exatly the same situation...
i need to upgrade my htc legend with BELL and i have the choice of Atrix or the Incredible S...
Coming previously form HTC Touch where i first experienced Windows Mobile computing, the ability of changing ROMS, then ported ANdroid ROMS which imo the best experience of them all with all the hacking/mod abilities...
So now my only criteria is the phone must be an Android phone... because it has such a large user based and hacking community in general...My current HTC Legend, is a great phone especially after the Froyo update, very responsive but its lacking the storage capcity...
This is why i'm changing my HTC Legend which is still stock ... i read about rooting it but it was a bit too complicated to root it without going through hoops and loops . So I didnt bother... and im running out of space
I've read a few reviews about incredible and atrix... and although the atrix looks superior on paper... i wasnt impressed by the motoblur and the few videos i saw...
The Motorola Atrix hardware is futureproof but only if Motorola decide to release new upgrades to take advantage of the hardware... i heard some bad things that based on history, i shouldnt bet on getting upgrades... is this true? If i'm not getting the upgrades from Motorola, this is why i think the hacking community plays an important role to get the best out of this wonderful piece of hardware ( like the HTC Touch in its time ). Apart from the wonderful beedfed up hardware ... i havent seen anything good... in fact i saw a few threads about rebooting problems, issues...etc and bloatware , not being able to install non market apk and motoblur ( which i only saw in the 1st generation motorola blur in the android 1.5 phone cant recall the name of the phone)
The Incredible S seems to be a more stable phone and i personally like the SENSE UI and HTC in general. I havent seen a lot of negative reviews or problems. COming form the HTC family, i tend to trust it more than Motorola. The 8MP cam is a plus but the inability to root is sad... at least some dev are working on it ...
bottomline, i can live without rooting the IS in the short term or with a rooted stable Atrix which i can customize and change the UI to put something similar to the SENSE UI ( weather and launcher). is there such a thing?