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Sorry if this is a newb question...but it comes from a newb.
I have successfully rooted, and flashed a recovery image onto my Sprint Hero....and I have created a nandroid backup of the rooted phone. Just yesterday I went in and deleted all the sprint bloatware. Here's my question:
Can I create another nandroid backup of my phone as it is right now? or will it delete my old nandroid backup? I would like to have the option to reflash to both the first state, and now the newer state. I hope this question is not confusing.
Can anyone help? Can you have multiple nandroid backup images? or do they override the previous one?
Thanks in advance! God bless!
-alex
You can have as many nandroid backups as your storage card has room for. That being said, if you do a nandroid restore, it will restore only the most recent one so if you want to restore to an older one, just move all the newer one to a different folder or something.
I add a "_sprintgolden" at the end or what ever and leave all the numbers in place that way I know whats what and can delete the extra and it will restore that backup
Yep, you can have as many as you want (store'em on your pc),just copy them out of your storage card otherwise it'll get overwritten by the next backup.
right on Iz
thanks guys! you guys are awesome! This stuff is fun! Can't wait for some new, fast Sprint Hero roms to start flashing! I haven't flashed anything yet.
Thanks again for the help! God bless!
-alex
izanagi said:
Yep, you can have as many as you want (store'em on your pc),just copy them out of your storage card otherwise it'll get overwritten by the next backup.
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No...it won't delete any of the backups. You can have as many backups as the card will hold (as an earlier post stated). The Nandroid Restore will only restore the most recent one.
If you want to keep all on your SD card, but restore from another backup, you'll have to drop to a shell on the phone to run Nandroid. That's accomplished by using ADB from the Google Android SDK. If you type nandroid -? on the command prompt, it will give you a list of parameters you can use to restore or backup Android.
i have three nandroid backups and have never had a problem what so ever with them....seems like eversince i renamed them to keep track of them i tried to use them and they give me and error saying run via adb...does anyone one have any insight?
im an iddiot mods delete this
aauussttiinn88 said:
i have three nandroid backups and have never had a problem what so ever with them....seems like eversince i renamed them to keep track of them i tried to use them and they give me and error saying run via adb...does anyone one have any insight?
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Actually the last time I tried to restore I had the same issue. Not sure what the remedy is, but I had to just re-flash the Modaco ROM I was running prior to trying out the 2.1 Rom. Wish I knew what was going on.
just figured it out...let me ask you this did you rename your nandroid backups?
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just figured it out...let me ask you this did you rename your nandroid backups?
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No, I just have a ton of them in my nandroid folder but never changed any names.
It names the backup based on the source device serial number and the time the backup was made. This, I think, is how it knows which one is the latest. I had this problem once before and the trick was to create the following folder structure in the root directory of your sd card:
nandroid\[insert device serial number]\BCDMRS-20100205-2102\
Note the BCDMRS-20100205-2102 is just a folder name I took from my nandroid folder. If you created the nandroid folder as I describe and have just one backup you can use the same folder name I did and put your backup in it.
An alternative method would be to do a nandroid backup to recreate the paths on your sdcard and overwrite the contents of your equivalent of BCDMRS-20100205-2102 with your older backup.
I didn't get much sleep so sorry if this doesn't make sense.
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It names the backup based on the source device serial number and the time the backup was made. This, I think, is how it knows which one is the latest. I had this problem once before and the trick was to create the following folder structure in the root directory of your sd card:
nandroid\[insert device serial number]\BCDMRS-20100205-2102\
Note the BCDMRS-20100205-2102 is just a folder name i took from my nandroid folder. If you created the nandroid folder as i describe and have just one backup you can use the same folder name I did and put your backup in it.
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Cool i will try that and see if it works. Actually im not all that pressed to backup any of my nandroids, so if this doesn't work I am going to delete all of mine and make just one backup to what im running now and hopefully that one will work if I ever need to restore. But thanks for the info.
You posted as I was editing my post. The alternate method might work better.
yea i just renamed my nandroid backups to the date in which i created them ie. 20100303 and that worked...weird i think but it works like a charm
Is it possible to rename a folder created by a nandroid backup and still have it to work?
I have 3 or 4 roms backed up and it's geting difficult to remember which is which
poddo said:
Is it possible to rename a folder created by a nandroid backup and still have it to work?
I have 3 or 4 roms backed up and it's geting difficult to remember which is which
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Yes it is possible.
I do this and it works:
\SDCard\nandroid\HT9APNT01015\ *custom named folders with img files inside*
Did you get that?
that's what I tried to do, but it seems nandroid didn't like its backups anymore after renaming the folders
when i 'Nandroid' restore the phone, do i have to reroot my phone? Or is root access still available? (Again, i'm new to the custom ROM world and getting familiair with the basics)
doing a nandroid backup is like creating an image of the phone software.
once you restore, your phone revert back being exactly the same as when you did the backup (rom wise, which includes root)
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doing a nandroid backup is like creating an image of the phone software.
once you restore, your phone revert back being exactly the same as when you did the backup (rom wise, which includes root)
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Thanks, i back-upped the phone after root was enabled, so it won't harm my root access.
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that's what I tried to do, but it seems nandroid didn't like its backups anymore after renaming the folders
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Hmmm, that is weird. I wonder if it has to do with the type or version of recovery image you have. At the moment I have RA-hero-v1.6.2.
Just to be clear, if you don't rename the folders, it restores properly?
it does, just one time it happened the backup got corrupted and wouldn't let the phone boot after restore (I am using same recovery img as yours)
I'm going to try renaming the folders again later
I wish you luck! Could you please post back with the result? I am very curious.
In my ongoing travels on the internets I will keep an eye out for a possible solution.
looks like this time it worked.
for some reason nandroid it seems nandroid has an erratic behaviour from time to time.
first time I made a copy of my first (working) backup and I renamed it, nandroid won't let me load it (thus why I created this thread); yesterday, after working fine it created a corrupted backup and I had to reinstall cronos from scratch.
only difference between my first try renaming backup directories is that the first time I made the copy via windows, while the second time I did it through Astro.
I'm going to watch into this.
EDIT: k, sorted the renaming issue. nandroid simply won't handle folders with spaces in their name
still, a couple times nandroid produced corrupted backups and this is forcing me to backup 3 times in a row just to be sure. :/
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looks like this time it worked.
for some reason nandroid it seems nandroid has an erratic behaviour from time to time.
first time I made a copy of my first (working) backup and I renamed it, nandroid won't let me load it (thus why I created this thread); yesterday, after working fine it created a corrupted backup and I had to reinstall cronos from scratch.
only difference between my first try renaming backup directories is that the first time I made the copy via windows, while the second time I did it through Astro.
I'm going to watch into this.
EDIT: k, sorted the renaming issue. nandroid simply won't handle folders with spaces in their name
still, a couple times nandroid produced corrupted backups and this is forcing me to backup 3 times in a row just to be sure. :/
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Glad you've found the issue! That is really weird about Nandroid creating corrupted backups...
It is so strange that using Windows (or not) creates or solves problems. I've read of instances where creating a goldcard with Win7 failed but WinXP worked.
Guys,... You using AmonRa yeah?.... It might be worth mentioning all your finds to the man Amon Ra himself,... Post something in the AmonRa thread, maybe there is something he can sort for future updates.
I was using Nexus S i9020T, CM7 nightly (a few weeks old) and for some reason I wake up this morning and couldn't get past the CM7 "blue circle" screen booting. I had about a month old backup but I didn't want to lose any recent data so I made a Nandroid backup.
Normally, to restore SMS or MMS from an old backup, one can just restore the nandroid backup, use a third party SMS backup program to backup the data to sdcard or gmail, restore or install new rom, then restore the SMS from the third party backup software.
However, in my case, I had a nandroid with data on it that I wanted to keep but that wouldn't boot.
So I did some searching and others have had this problem before but I figured I'd put it here for others that may have the same problem. I am not taking credit for this I just found various pieces of info around the web.
The solution is to use a utility called unyaffs. Unyaffs will need cygwin.dll. Yaffs is the file system that CWM recovery nandroid backups are stored in. Windows cannot read or mount this file system AFAIK.
Instead of compiling unyaffs for windows and installing all of cygwin, just use the attached pre-compiled unyaffs.exe and cygwin.dll.
Here's the process:
To restore SMS/MMS from a nandroid backup using MS Windows:
place unyaffs.exe + cygwin.dll + data.img in a folder
open command prompt in this directory (shift+right click -> open comand window here)
type: unyaffs data.img
the contents of the data.img will be extracted to this folder. wait for extraction to complete
browse to \data\com.android.providers.telephony\databases in the extracted folders
copy mmssms.db, mmssms.db-shm, mmssms.db-wal to sdcard
use root explorer to copy these three files to \data\data\com.android.providers.telephony\databases
To restore contacts/call log from a nandroid backup:
repeat above process for \data\com.android.providers.contacts\databases
To restore launcher configuration (only for stock Gingerbread launcher):
repeat above process for \data\com.android.launcher\databases
Note: Be aware that replacing the existing files with those extracted from the backup will remove the existing data so if you're not 100% sure what you're doing, change the names to mmssms_OLD.db or otherwise back them up before pasting the files from the backup.
Edit: Just thought I'd add, I also came across an app called AppExtractor but, despite the good reviews, the SMS/MMS restore didn't work for me.
if you have titanium backup, it makes it a lot easier to restore specific items from Nandroid Backup
AllGamer said:
if you have titanium backup, it makes it a lot easier to restore specific items from Nandroid Backup
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Doesn't work for migrating from Gingerbread to Ice Cream Sandwich for some reason?
I am going to give this one a try.
To the OP your a dead set legend! thank you
PS: Where the bloody hell is the thanks button on this forum? I can't find it
I will give it a try. Thanks.
where do i find data.img?
I'm on an SGS I9000 and made an SMS/MMS backup using titanium backup when I was on Gingerbread.
Now I've installed the "Onecosmic's ICS Port Android 4.0.3 RC3.1" and restoring the backup file using titanium (only data) makes my message app FC.
Jarmezrocks were you successful when restoring your SMS/MMS on ICS?
Does anyone knows how to restore them? From titanium backup I only have an *.apk.gz and *.properties files.
Thanks for any help.
Cheers
Excellent.. saved me a lot.. thanks for the tool
Great post. I wonder if there is a file extrator in Android like unyaffs?
I found out that you can restore SMS just by using Root Explorer.
The location is the same, just that the files are these ones:
mmssms.db
nwk_info.db
telephony.db
I tried and it worked only using RootExplorer and I extracted the files from data.ext4.rar
Does this need to be done using ADB? I have set a nandroid backup from a GB ROM and flashed ICS on the phone; however when I extract the data.img using unyaffs and browse to the mentioned directory, there are no db files whatsoever.
Could the nandroid backup be corrupted for some reason?
I am looking at the data\com.android.providers.contacts folder and I only see a lib folder with nothing on it.
Hidden system files are set to show BTW
I did this yesterday using Titanium Backup for my SMS/MMS
You need to go into Preferences and check the *Migrate system data [Experimental] option
Then you go to More - Extract from nandroid backup
There it is listed as Dialer Storage
You can probably do the Phone log this way to but I did look for it.
I would recommend you do a current backup of [SMS/MMS/APN] Dialer Storage before you attempt this.
Does this restore the whole smsmms database like with the sms.db file on the iPhone? I hate it when MyBackupPro has to restore my texts and the dates are all messed up and i've lost all my MMS'. And it restores them one by one, instead of just putting it in there all at once. Took me like an hour to restore everything.
I have an app for you.
I'd much rather save myself from all this tedious long-winded work and just use apk extractor to restore everything.
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I have an app for you.
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Thanks! Wish i've learned about this sooner. Would have saved me a lot of time.
This method doesn't work for me :/
I followed it exactly step by step but when I'm done and go to the Messages app, it's empty.
The same happens if I try it with appextractor or titanium backup.
I made the nandroid backup on CM7, and want to restore the messages to CM9+AOKP on ZTE Blade.
Thanks
THANK YOU !!!!
That was so helpful. I was migrating from GB to Nyx ICS RC5.0 yesterday and the application I used (super backup) failed to restore the Contacts.
Another app I used did that but missed allot of details (and also was damn slow).
I used your technique and it did the trick!!!
All data is there the same as I left it on CM7.2
You're the king
Thanks
[EDIT] just a correction Super Backup was able to restore the contacts but with missing details
It failed to restore the SMS
The other APP (forgot the name) restored the SMS (after ages) but contact associated with the SMS were completely messed up.
perfect
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I did this yesterday using Titanium Backup for my SMS/MMS
You need to go into Preferences and check the *Migrate system data [Experimental] option
Then you go to More - Extract from nandroid backup
There it is listed as Dialer Storage
You can probably do the Phone log this way to but I did look for it.
I would recommend you do a current backup of [SMS/MMS/APN] Dialer Storage before you attempt this.
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This worked perfectly for me, got all my sms messages back from my nandroid backup.
Thanks!
thanks!
RichAP said:
I did this yesterday using Titanium Backup for my SMS/MMS
You need to go into Preferences and check the *Migrate system data [Experimental] option
Then you go to More - Extract from nandroid backup
There it is listed as Dialer Storage
You can probably do the Phone log this way to but I did look for it.
I would recommend you do a current backup of [SMS/MMS/APN] Dialer Storage before you attempt this.
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I did this today when I had to reformat my phone because of a bootloop. I'm using an HTC Desire on MildWild. Worked perfectly for me and was able to restore my messages. Loads of thanks to you!
Thank you! This worked perfectly for me!
Hi guys,
I have an unlocked/rooted N7. The tablet has quite a bit of data in it and I am trying to initiate a back up using ROM Manager but the backup is only of about 20Mb when I check it.
I tried to do the backup straight from CWM but it is the same, very fast to back up and I assume it is not backing up all of the partitions...
My tablet has about 5Gb used so I expect the NANDROID backup to be around this size ...
Any idea ?
Cheers
Don't count me on this but I believe that the blobs file within the clock work mod folder contains some information as well.
Sent from my Nexus 7 using xda premium
Thanks for that, I have since checked the blobs folder and indeed it is about 1Gb in size but that doesn't explain the time to take the backup (strangely quick, about 30secondes).
I am not confident enough to test my restore to see if it works :]
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Thanks for that, I have since checked the blobs folder and indeed it is about 1Gb in size but that doesn't explain the time to take the backup (strangely quick, about 30secondes).
I am not confident enough to test my restore to see if it works :]
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This tablet does backup and restore very quickly. I can confirm they work as well.
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Was this the first nandroid that you took?
CWM 6.0+ now does incremental backups, the first backup creates a blob folder where 'common' files will be placed and teh backup itself only includes 'new' files.
That being said a full old style nandroid with TeamWin recovery on the N7 only took me 130 seconds
Thanks guys, I understand now why it takes very little time to take the backup
So not only the backup folder is used but also the blobs one...
Hate to bump this but I figure it's better than duplicating threads...
I just did a Nandroid backup (assuming that's the backup & restore function found in CWM) and ran two backups. Each came up to about 23-24MB. I do see a blobs folder, where there's about 1.6GB worth of data. My real confusion is... is this ALL of my data, partition structure, and everything? Pictures? App data? I just want to make sure I'm doing this properly.
Also, I want to store my backups on my server at home, so I'm assuming my best bet is to just copy both the backup and blobs folder entirely?
Nandroid does not backup your media, docs etc. It just backs up your system and user apps with the associated data for each.
Same for titanium backup. You need to backup those other things to your PC or a flash drive through the USB connection.
Under the clockwork directory there is a backup and blobs directory. Both of them combined are your nandroid backup.
Rootbrain
For 100% recoverable backup from PC I have to copy across the blobs folder then?
I'm interested in the user apps and data, they must be in the blobs I guess?
Just so I'm really clear on this...
Say I only had the backup timestamp folder and missed out the blobs, and did recovery from that, would it work? Would that return to a clean ROM, or would clockworkmod not be able to use it without the blobs folder?
Thanks
Apologies guys, I just did some more reading and found this post http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1933000
It explains it all, and I have my answers