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HTC 3600 Questions (GPS, 3g Browsing etc !)

Hi all,
Firstly, apologies for being a bit of a newb here, but this is my first ever PDA type phone, and im getting myself confused, and for no real reason it seems !
I've done a bit of searching around, and from what I can work out I am going to make a few assumptions
1 - I should be able to, without using my WLAN connection, browse the internet on my HTC3600 through internet explorer, using my Vodafone 3g or GPRS connection.
2 - there is a way to enable some random wizardry chip inside the phone to activate GPS, and if I was to install TomTom Satnav software, this would work with no extra dongles etc.
Now. if my assumptions are correct (and one should never assume anything) I would be greatly appreciated if someone could in easy to follow newbie freindly (as in, click on start, programs,) instructions as to how I would ...
1 - do what is required to get GPS working
2 - do what is required to get the 3g web browsing working.
Im sure this would be a useful sticky if you cna help me do this, but having a search round on the forum I havn't seen these instructions spelt out. Aware that whatever you tell me I do at my own risk etc, but would really appreciate some help here
cheers all

conanius said:
Hi all,
Firstly, apologies for being a bit of a newb here, but this is my first ever PDA type phone, and im getting myself confused, and for no real reason it seems !
I've done a bit of searching around, and from what I can work out I am going to make a few assumptions
1 - I should be able to, without using my WLAN connection, browse the internet on my HTC3600 through internet explorer, using my Vodafone 3g or GPRS connection.
2 - there is a way to enable some random wizardry chip inside the phone to activate GPS, and if I was to install TomTom Satnav software, this would work with no extra dongles etc.
Now. if my assumptions are correct (and one should never assume anything) I would be greatly appreciated if someone could in easy to follow newbie freindly (as in, click on start, programs,) instructions as to how I would ...
1 - do what is required to get GPS working
2 - do what is required to get the 3g web browsing working.
Im sure this would be a useful sticky if you cna help me do this, but having a search round on the forum I havn't seen these instructions spelt out. Aware that whatever you tell me I do at my own risk etc, but would really appreciate some help here
cheers all
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Usually I would say search and stop being a noob but I'll be nice today.
1 - I should be able to, without using my WLAN connection, browse the internet on my HTC3600 through internet explorer, using my Vodafone 3g or GPRS connection.
Correct, however you'll have to setup your internet settings for Vodafone, you can usually find these settings on vodafone's support website or by calling customer service.
2 - there is a way to enable some random wizardry chip inside the phone to activate GPS, and if I was to install TomTom Satnav software, this would work with no extra dongles etc.
If you have an older ROM loaded on your P3600 then yes you'll have to upgrade it to enable the GPS. You can check your ROM by going to start->settings->system->device information if it's 1.15, you'll need to upgrade it to get GPS, however if it says 1.23, your GPS should already be enabled. You may also want to look into upgrading your P3600 to WM6.
Here are some useful links
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Trinity
http://trinityguides.info/
BTW, don't get too attached to this phone, the screen will probably stop responding in about a month and you'll have to send it in to get serviced.
Good luck.

conanius said:
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1 - do what is required to get GPS working
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Don't do anything apart from going to Start/Settings/System/Device Information and checking what is listed for Radio ROM. If it ends in **.**.11 it is GPS enabled. If not, as vanydotk says, you will need to update the Radio ROM.
Any GPS aware application (TomTom etc, etc) will automatically initiate the GPS receiver as needed, as long as the applications settings point to the correct GPS port (COM9) You don't need any additional hardware.
conanius said:
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2 - do what is required to get the 3g web browsing working.
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Make sure you have a 3G SIM card, and 3G is enabled on your account (it isn't always).
Use This Guide to manually configure the Vodafone settings (HTC did have an automatic file to do this, but it's been pulled from their site). Note there are different settings for contract and PAYG accounts.
Be very aware that mobile browsing can be very expensive. Before you do anything, make sure you buy a data bundle, or it may cost you up to £3 per MB of data.

Also a newbie and had spent some time reading the forum looking for answers... Can any experts clarify and/or confirm my question below? I know it s a very basic question for many here, but I would really appreciate it if someone can help me to get this working.
Do I have to have Mapping software installed on my Trinity in order for the GPS to work?
I go into the Camera mode by pressing the "shutter" button. Tap on the camera icon (upper left in landscape view) to enable GPS. However, nothing happens. Looks like it just keeps trying to start GPS.
The screen message reads: "Initializing GPS..."
What do I need to do to get the GPS working?
According to a previous post. My device came with the GPS enabled based on the ROM versions on my Trinity.
Some info:
I purchased my D810 in Hong Kong but I am using it now in Taipei.
The ROM info are as follows:
-ROM version: 1.23.707.6
-ROM date: 02/08/07
-Radio version: 1.35.00.11
-Protocol version: 32.68.7020.10H
OS 5.1.461 (Build 15671.3.3.0) Windows Mobile 5.0 with Messaging and Security Feature Pack. English version.
I am currently on a pre-paid phone service (FarEast Tone) so I do not have access to 3.5G, etc.
Thanks in advance!!!

HTC Touch Vogue and GPS

Hello, just need something things cleared up, I have unlocked my phone by cooking custom rom and enabling GPS capabilities for this phone. I have spent a week or so learning how to mod different things like SPB, S2U2, icontacts, etc.... I traveled to Montreal from Toronto using the GPS pay services, $8 a month, which is reasonable, but I was wondering if it possible to use the GPS capabilities for free. I know when you go buy a GPS unit, you dont have to pay for the service, only if you want to update your maps. Is there some registry hack or software that will enable this for free. Please let me know and point me in the right direction if possible, thanks everyone.

gps free with unlimited date plan
if you have an unlimited data plan ,(im with telus),like if you wanto get internet ,tv or anything else. your gps connection gona be free. for the htc touch vogue with the news telus rom its so easy to get gps working with a simple modification with Qpst and a registry hack.
HTC Mogul
DCD 3.2.2 RADIO 3.42.30
gps working-ip phone- wifi and bluetooth internet router working to
ive download almost 5gig each month and no cost for that
27.85 meg at boot and 23.75 with 6-8 program like google map running
HTC Vogue
New telus radio rom wm6.1
Gps working with registry hack and qpst modification
ip phone and bluetooth router for internet working ( no wifi enabled)
this phone just have so much memory that everything working stable with so less hacking on it
HTC Libra
New telus radio rom wm6.1
ip-phone with internet by bluetooth pan and diamond tv working by bluetooth
****ing smartphone so hard to hack or build a kitchen for it

Original poster was asking whether it was free to acquire GPS through satellite rather than through a data connection.
I have an Elf so I don't know the answer, but the Vogue has a GPS chip in it so I'm assuming it can communicate with satellites. If you have the newer ROMs then it should have GPS enabled in the operating system.
guig54 said:
if you have an unlimited data plan ,(im with telus),like if you wanto get internet ,tv or anything else. your gps connection gona be free. for the htc touch vogue with the news telus rom its so easy to get gps working with a simple modification with Qpst and a registry hack.
HTC Mogul
DCD 3.2.2 RADIO 3.42.30
gps working-ip phone- wifi and bluetooth internet router working to
ive download almost 5gig each month and no cost for that
27.85 meg at boot and 23.75 with 6-8 program like google map running
HTC Vogue
New telus radio rom wm6.1
Gps working with registry hack and qpst modification
ip phone and bluetooth router for internet working ( no wifi enabled)
this phone just have so much memory that everything working stable with so less hacking on it
HTC Libra
New telus radio rom wm6.1
ip-phone with internet by bluetooth pan and diamond tv working by bluetooth
****ing smartphone so hard to hack or build a kitchen for it
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did you know that your phone doesnt communicate with satellite gps but its making a triangular equation with his cellular satellite. I'm working on getting a gps lock without having any contract. And getting a free internet connection at the same time if youre able to get a gps lock you have internet acces because they came from the same source.

Thanks
Hey guys thanks alot for your replies, I think I have a better grasp on what you all are saying. So, I have enabled the GPS capabilities on my phone through the ROM. Now I have a icon in programs menu that says GPSNav. When I go to that application it gives me 2 options, 3.50 a day and 8.00 a month. From what I understand GPS on these phones are done through a data connection meaning the internet, not through locking onto an actual satellite like those dedicated GPS devices. I do have an unlimited data plan right now. So, is it because I'm running this particular program that I have to pay? Or is there another program I can either use through one time purchase or I can find on the net somewhere that I can install and get GPS for free through using my unlimited data plan (triangulation). If there is an app out there, whats the name? Thank again!

guig54 said:
did you know that your phone doesnt communicate with satellite gps but its making a triangular equation with his cellular satellite. I'm working on getting a gps lock without having any contract. And getting a free internet connection at the same time if youre able to get a gps lock you have internet acces because they came from the same source.
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Hmm... I thought the GPS capability of these newer phones was equivalent to the functionality of using separate Bluetooth GPS receiver. Thus no need to buy the receiver anymore.
Correct me if I am wrong, because this was one of my reasons for wanting to buy a Touch Diamond or the Touch 3G.

gps without any plan
i dont know for the touch diamond or the touch 3g because the telus interface is cdma not gsm. but if you want to get an gps connection without being charged for it. its shure that if you have to open an app that charged you for using the gps its because first- that you've not flash a custom rom or simply with the new htc rom wm6.1 you can just modify your Qpst and with a little registry hack you can get a fully free of charged gps using. but you will need to install a gps sorftware that already have all the map in it. or if you have and unlimited data plan get google map and youll never be charged for using the gps chipset enabled.
For now I've almost get a gps lock with my HTC libra without any plan at all, its seeking for satellite but not able to lock on 1. im trying to get a pass trough the cellular tower to get a data unlimited to for free with cloning and some little other hack. ill see if its working.

gps and internet working without any plan.... to much
the gps connection working with a 8 second locking time and 10 gps satellite locking on. with the new rom wm6.1 from telus i've found that there is many thing that make it so funny and easy to hack and make everything working. now i've found how to make the internet connection working.
google maps working
9-10 gps satellites lock on
8 second delay for locking satellite
satellite view working because of the internet hack ..... so hot
internet
download bitrate of 1200 kbps
Now the question is how long all this will stay working.
all of this working because off all the time i've put on this. reading and trying modification in registry, modification in the epst with ##778 and the getspc, changing values in qpst for enabling the gps chipset and dont forgot to change your spc if you dont want telus to get in and see what you have done in it. the key to get all off this working will stay secret for a week minimum because ill see if after a week everything will stay alive maybe ill tell somebody who will pay for it. but after making the impossible-possible the secret key to that is.....lol

guig54 said:
all of this working because off all the time i've put on this. reading and trying modification in registry, modification in the epst with ##778 and the getspc, changing values in qpst for enabling the gps chipset and dont forgot to change your spc if you dont want telus to get in and see what you have done in it. the key to get all off this working will stay secret for a week minimum because ill see if after a week everything will stay alive maybe ill tell somebody who will pay for it. but after making the impossible-possible the secret key to that is.....lol
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I'm not fully understanding what you're saying. But... to help others out you are making them pay for it? On this site?
My initial point about the GPS chip was not to imply CDMA or GSM. It should have nothing to do with either. I'm talking about direct satellite tracking (like with a bluetooth receiver) not tracking through cellular network. Maybe someone else can enlighten us on this.

im not telling to ask other to pay for my help but for the key to acces the network without any data plan and get full free access to gps. about your idea to get an outside gps connect with your device, for me its an crazy idea because youre gona pay for a gps device that is already in your htc device and that you can get full use of it without being charged for it.
the way i've found to connect to the network is pretty easy after all but that take me so much hours to found this hack that im not gona give it to a nobody(french term)

when youre talking about direct satellite its your choice but about me im not working on that because ive no interest in that.
Now next step is to get a free access to the cellular tower and get access to make phone call without having a plan with a company

guig54 said:
about your idea to get an outside gps connect with your device, for me its an crazy idea because youre gona pay for a gps device that is already in your htc device and that you can get full use of it without being charged for it.
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My Elfin doesn't have a GPS device built in. that is why I have to use Bluetooth to connect to my separate GPS receiver. That is what most people do.

2nd day off free internet access
day 2, the internet connection still alive.
-I think that yesterday about 3hrs after i got access they try to deconnect me . Because i've been deconnected and they send me and msg that ive not permission to acces the network. but after soft-reset everything get back on and nothing else apen after that everything going good.
-Now can somebody now if its possible to make a roundup connections with cell tower. is it possible to activate the option of making the request activation after the connection begin like the 10 min registry hack activation delay for the btpan in dcd rom
sorry for my poor english im from Quebec, Canada.
mabe if something possible I'll be interested in develloping and creating a kind off ghost phone project with the help off every one who know something about that
thanks

I have an Elfin myself, so I don't know how the Vogue works...
But from what I've read, the Vogue has a built-in GPS chip. This is not to be confused with aGPS (Assisted GPS), which uses the cell towers to triangulate your position; it's not as accurate as true GPS but it gives you a good idea. I'm not sure if aGPS costs you money, I would assume it does as it needs to use the internet (Google maps uses an aGPS style positioning).
Where as true GPS uses a chip to pick up on the 24 GPS satellites or so, orbiting the earth right now. The chip is designed to get a satellite lock, and the satellites help triangulate your position to a more accurate position. Well, more satellites/cell towers = better accuracy. Therfore consider 24 satellites, or 3 or 4 cell towers. Obviously true GPS works better.
So from what I understand, you just unlock the GPS (which I believe is true GPS), then I would download Garmin XT for windows mobile and use that. You will have to download or buy the map sets, load those onto an SD card in your phone. Then you can use Garmin XT (with pre-installed maps), combined with the internal GPS chip - it should work just fine, and will not use the internet.
I have been using Garmin XT on my Elfin, with a bluetooth GPS and it works great. I have never used a data plan either.
Now, I just wonder what chip the Vogue is using for it's GPS - it must be some kind of SiRF chip... Maybe someone can tell us, then we will know the exact type of GPS it uses.
Try out Garmin XT and let us know.

hey guys..
i have an HTC Vogue..
i was wondering..
if..
Google Maps does work without having a wifi connection?
its WM default ROM..
PS.
[i live in Central America]

GPS without Data Charges???

Hi,
I still have my Telus branded Touch and was wondering if there was a way to get the gps working even though the phone isnt active any longer with Telus? Before it dialed into some remote server to get a really quick gps lock. I only recently pulled this thing out of the drawer cause I figured I may as well leave it in my car as a standalone tomtom gps unit. It wont lock onto any satalites though.
Any ideas? I used to have a external bluetooth gps receiever but I cant find that anywhere either.
I'm wondering if its just the rom thats on this thing.... I'm running the standard telus rom. If another rom has the ablity to lock onto GPS without the need for a cellular connection I'd be willing to try that out.
Thanks again!

Aaron McCarthy said:
Hi,
I still have my Telus branded Touch and was wondering if there was a way to get the gps working even though the phone isnt active any longer with Telus? Before it dialed into some remote server to get a really quick gps lock. I only recently pulled this thing out of the drawer cause I figured I may as well leave it in my car as a standalone tomtom gps unit. It wont lock onto any satalites though.
Any ideas? I used to have a external bluetooth gps receiever but I cant find that anywhere either.
I'm wondering if its just the rom thats on this thing.... I'm running the standard telus rom. If another rom has the ablity to lock onto GPS without the need for a cellular connection I'd be willing to try that out.
Thanks again!
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I am on Verizon. I don't know the specifics about Telus. If your GPS is unlocked then technically you should be able to use your GPS without your radio being turned on. Even use it with the radio turned on & use TomTom which does not require a data connection.
As far as getting your GPS to work, I don't exactly know if the process is simular to Verizon. Perhaps someone else will lend you a hand. I did find some threads for you though.
Take a look at NFSFAN's ROM's
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=406320&highlight=telus+gps&page=3
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=508544&highlight=telus+gps

I know there is a "hybrid" gps setup on the the vogue that you can tweak in the registry to get only the gps chip to lock. Try searching for "hybrid gps" and such in this forum and the dev/hacking forum. It was discussed at length a little while after the htc rom upgrade releases last year.

If you are willing to upgrade to NFSFAN's Windows Mobile 6.5, you can follow this link http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=3680840#post3680840 and in Post #5 there is a cab that will disable aGPS so it won't look for a connection to help. With this you will be solely reliant on the phone's Full GPS chip, which may take anywhere from 1-5 minutes to get a full lock. It's not as sensitive as an external bluetooth GPS receiver. You can find this and other GPS/Winmo upgrades in the Vogue upgrading section of xda.

canyoufindben said:
If you are willing to upgrade to NFSFAN's Windows Mobile 6.5, you can follow this link http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=3680840#post3680840 and in Post #5 there is a cab that will disable aGPS so it won't look for a connection to help. With this you will be solely reliant on the phone's Full GPS chip, which may take anywhere from 1-5 minutes to get a full lock. It's not as sensitive as an external bluetooth GPS receiver. You can find this and other GPS/Winmo upgrades in the Vogue upgrading section of xda.
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Once he upgrades it will work just like a standalone TomTom unit. I don't sound like he is going to have the phone activated anyway. The Standalone TomTom units take about 1-5 minutes to lock anyway.

jadesse said:
Once he upgrades it will work just like a standalone TomTom unit. I don't sound like he is going to have the phone activated anyway. The Standalone TomTom units take about 1-5 minutes to lock anyway.
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Right, that why I suggested it. Since he won't be using it with service, there's no reason to stick with the stock ROM.

Navigator demands data connection at start

Hi all,
firstly the software situation:
I have an HTC Touch Diamond2 wit a german Vodafone branding. Last week i installed the new official upgrade for german Vodafone devices - ROM version 2.16.162.1 HTC Touch Diamond2 (Voda_ DE).
With the old ROM and WM Version i didn't have this problem. Now - with every start of my TomTom Navigator after about 10 seconds a data connection is started. If there's wifi around - wifi, if not - mobile service. When i switch off the connection it stops and for some minutes - until i turn off the navigator it remains switched off. I haven't tested if during some time of the navigation it is turned on again.
In other discussions other users (with other navigation software) have also affirmed, that they also get an unwanted data connection.
Since then i have tried everything that i could think of. I looked over every setting in the TomTom software. Tried over TomTom Home. Tried reinstalling TomTom. Tried resetting to factory settings of TomTom. Nothing helped.
I then made a couple of hardresets of the device and i formatted the memory card also a couple of times. I then installed everything fresh - still demands data connection.
I then tracked the connections with a trafficmonitor software - one time wifi connection, one time mobile service ceonnection.
Looks like this:
WiFi:
system : 3.5 K
WZCSVC.dll : 1.2 K
mobile connection:
system: 1.2 K
WZCSVC.dll is Wireless Zero Configuration Service and i can at least understand why it is making traffic, since wifi is in use.
What is "system"?
Also - why more traffic for "system" with wifi than with mobile connection?
Yesterday i also tracked the connection and there was another .dll service which name i unluckily didn't mark. But it was gps*something*.dll.??
Could AGPS or Quick-GPS have something to do with this behaviour? Or the My Location service? I disabled and declined every setting that i could discover for those services, but i may have overlooked something?
Any ideas?
Please HELP!
Any suggestion would be appreciated!
Thanks in advance!

Problem solved (looks like it at least).
After installing HD Tweak and disabling A-GPS no data connection starts with starting the navigator.

Glad you solved your issue, but let me witness that in my case (i have A-GPS ON) when i use tomtom (7.916.9189) no data connection is going on. Anyway,just to be sure to keep your problem under control, i advice you to check also the weather update settings.

san.medius said:
After installing HD Tweak and disabling A-GPS no data connection starts with starting the navigator.
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A little worrying. I am off to Amsterdam tomorrow and want to use TTN7 without getting stung for a data connection.

sualc said:
Glad you solved your issue, but let me witness that in my case (i have A-GPS ON) when i use tomtom (7.916.9189) no data connection is going on. Anyway,just to be sure to keep your problem under control, i advice you to check also the weather update settings.
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If you mean the two options which appear directly when the HTC Sence Weather Tab is opened - "update weather automatically" and "update with roaming" - i've checked them many times - they are off. If there is another setting where they can be adjusted i would appreciate it if you told me where and how. But i don't think this is it. Unless TomTom Weather is doing this.
But as i mentiones - there was a gps*something*.dll file, that caused the data transfer - that's why i thought it is something GPS related.
But I wouldn't mind to use another solution because now i think my gps signal is not that strong (at least in buildings).
Do you have 6.5 also? I don't think it could be a ROM thing?
A little worrying. I am off to Amsterdam tomorrow and want to use TTN7 without getting stung for a data connection.
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As far as i could test it it makes the connection just once after starting the navigation. It doesn't keep pulling data the whole time. If it does it the whole time during a navigation - i don't know, haven't tested it.
But you can at least test it quickly before travelling - navigation on - status check. If something's moving - you have a problem.
There is one simple solution - you can either disable all automatic connection types - then you would't be able to surf the internet. In my case i didn't want to have to disable everything and/or to enable it by hand every time i use the navigator.
Or you can install HD Tweak and disable A-GPS. It's really very easy.
http://montecristoff.webs.com/hdtweak.htm

san.medius said:
Or you can install HD Tweak and disable A-GPS. It's really very easy.
http://montecristoff.webs.com/hdtweak.htm
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Thanks. I installed that and it seems that A-GPS is disabled by default. And it doesn't seem to get switched on by TTN7. Now I can wander the streets of Amsterdam without a worry

Mike Austin said:
Thanks. I installed that and it seems that A-GPS is disabled by default. And it doesn't seem to get switched on by TTN7. Now I can wander the streets of Amsterdam without a worry
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Without A-GPS enabled make sure you don't enter the wrong coffeeshop!!
By the way..Also TD2 Tools and Tom's Topaz Setting Tool can enable/disable A-GPS and are more specific for our devices...your choice...and have a nice trip

sualc said:
Without A-GPS enabled make sure you don't enter the wrong coffeeshop!!
By the way..Also TD2 Tools and Tom's Topaz Setting Tool can enable/disable A-GPS and are more specific for our devices...your choice...and have a nice trip
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Hi,
have you tested HD Tweak? I'm just asking for comparison reasons. I used it just because someone said it worked.
If the other two are more suitable for the Topaz i would of course prefer them. Is there "a better one" comparing the two?
P.S. Following question just entered my mind. If i uninstall the other tweak software what happens with the changes i made with it. I mean i guess it changes values in the registry so that the settings are changed? I suppose everything will stay as the software "left" it before being uninstalled?

I use HDTweak to increase overall sound volume only. I had it installed for months in a previous config and I was quite happy with it, but the specific tweak apps look more friendly to me. I guess that if you uninstall hdtweak without restoring the default settings you will keep the tweaks applied..at your own risk

gps with t-mobile usa

I've read that the HD2 has the new snapdragon chip which has built-in GPS. i have the t-mobile usa version. i'm having problems figuring out how to get my gps software to recognize the gps radio. maybe i'm just missing a setting (i hope). is the gps radio even available in the t-mo usa rom or do i need another rom? if i do need another rom, any suggestions?....or pointers in the right direction.
thanks
tom
no data plan
ps - iguidance support is as clueless as i am.

i forgot to mention...
ROM version: 2.10.531.1
Radio version: 2.08.50.08_2
- tom
HTC HD2 USA
Iguidance (gps software)

I think the manual settings are com4, 4800 baud for the gps.
I tried manually setting it in google maps and it worked on Friday.

isn't google maps a web based gps? i trying to get the gps to work without a data (or internet connection). also, i have gone through every setting in settings and still cannot find where to set the com or baud nor do i see even any mention of gps.
- tom

tomX2 said:
isn't google maps a web based gps? i trying to get the gps to work without a data (or internet connection). also, i have gone through every setting in settings and still cannot find where to set the com or baud nor do i see even any mention of gps.
- tom
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google maps does require data connection. I was just mentioning it since I can change the gps settings there. I vaguely remember that those settings work, so you can try it in your gps program if it doesn't detect automatically.

I used Telenav on my TMOUS HD2 5 minutes after I got my phone and it worked fine without changing any of the settings. I have a dataplan on my phone though.
Is the AGPS service on your phone on? Try turning it off.
Its in settings>Location>AGPS Service.

i have agps off. i am under the impression that agps uses data (i have no data plan) and of course, do not want to use data. according to wikipedia: "A typical A-GPS-enabled receiver will use a data connection (Internet or other) to contact the assistance server for A-GPS information". i'm going to call t-mo usa on this.
i can get the software to find my location (using agps) but this phone has a stand-a-lone gps radio and it should work without any assistance from anything other than the satellites. my tytnII did. my feeling is that it's my phone, it's my software why should i pay someone to use it? especially when it was designed to work independently, until the phone companies figured out a way to charge for it. in addition, when i'm trekking and there is no tower, the very reason gps was invented is rendered useless.
anyone have any experience with setting up their hd2 with gps (not agps), using any of the standard softwares? i.e. tom tom, iguidance, etc. i pretty sure this is possible, but hard to find information on.
thanks
tom
HTC HD2
iguidance
gps tuner

fyi - i have found out that (through several unhelpful contacts with the manufacturer as well as posts here and elsewhere) iguidance gps does not work with the hd2 (usa)....and the company provides no assistance in this matter.
- tom

tomX2 said:
i have agps off. i am under the impression that agps uses data (i have no data plan) and of course, do not want to use data. according to wikipedia: "A typical A-GPS-enabled receiver will use a data connection (Internet or other) to contact the assistance server for A-GPS information". i'm going to call t-mo usa on this.
i can get the software to find my location (using agps) but this phone has a stand-a-lone gps radio and it should work without any assistance from anything other than the satellites. my tytnII did. my feeling is that it's my phone, it's my software why should i pay someone to use it? especially when it was designed to work independently, until the phone companies figured out a way to charge for it. in addition, when i'm trekking and there is no tower, the very reason gps was invented is rendered useless.
anyone have any experience with setting up their hd2 with gps (not agps), using any of the standard softwares? i.e. tom tom, iguidance, etc. i pretty sure this is possible, but hard to find information on.
thanks
tom
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There are plenty of other GPS apps that should work with the HD2 that don't require a monthly payment. I'm only using Telenav through the 60 day free trial, and will cancel it afterwards.
Tom Tom, iGo 8, and Navigon all reportedly work for the HD2. You will have to pay for the software and maps, but otherwise there are no monthly expenses. From my understanding, they only require data service if you're using something like traffic updates, or if you're using a trial version and they need use the data service for verification purposes.
I've not tried any other GPS software other than Telenav yet, but I see no reason why they others shouldn't work.

i been using Ndrive and works better then it did on my pro2