HTC CEO "silently" announced competing with iPhone - HD2 General

Check the announcement ceremony, the CEO presented HD2 side by side with iPhone when demonstrating the keyboard!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d0lLcz2VGZY

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N1 in UK in April

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technolo...sive-Google-Nexus-One-to-launch-in-April.html
Google’s Nexus One, the company’s first own-brand mobile phone, will launch in the UK in April. It will be on sale through Google.com/phone only, as the company has previously announced. Tariffs have not been announced, but the Nexus One is likely to be priced very similarly to comparable smartphones such as the iPhone.
Built by HTC, the Nexus One is Google’s attempt to assert the superiority of its mobile operating system Android, in the face of market dominance from Apple’s iPhone and Microsoft’s reinvigorated mobile software, Windows Phone.
Although the search giant’s first official UK partner, Vodafone, had been keen for a launch in March, sources close to both companies have confirmed to The Daily Telegraph that April is when the company will have a realistic chance of being ready for the launch.
The Nexus One is unusual because it is available online only direct from Google, and so relies heavily on word of moth marketing. Although sales had initially been reported as slow in comparison to the iPhone, the Nexus One has not benefited from the significant promotion that Apple has bought for its flagship product.
Google issued an update to the phone, shortly after its American launch in January, which added the multitouch web browsing that has been so successful on Apple’s iPhone.
Both Google and Vodafone would only say that they were committed to delivering the phone to the UK “in the spring”.
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The Nexus One is unusual because it is available online only direct from Google, and so relies heavily on word of moth marketing.
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No wonder sales have been lower than expected. Never rely on an insect to pass on information!

{Rumor} Motorola Atrix and Xoom headed to Sprint 4G next month

too bad sprint is CDMA, their radio cant fix the stupid upload cap ....
Sprint made a big splash in the Android community when they launched the HTC EVO 4G last summer, but since that time we have yet to see another device that created the same level of buzz and excitement. Everyone was hoping that would change this year, but Sprint had a lackluster CES and their big media event to reveal the Kyocera Echo disappointed customers who were expecting a high-end device. Thankfully, we have now discovered that Sprint has multiple dual-core devices in the works. Check out the full rumor report after the break.
The Rumor
Next month Sprint will announce the Motorola Atrix smartphone (with lapdock) and Xoom tablet. Both devices will support Sprint’s 4G WiMAX network.
The Source
This tip came from a regular source who has provided accurate information on Sprint in the past. As with most people that hand over sensitive information, they wish to remain anonymous.
One Android Insider’s take on the rumor
Last year we were the first to report on a secret Motorola device which we referred to as Terminator. It eventually landed on AT&T as the Atrix 4G, but our original sources said it would come to multiple carriers this year.
Motorola invested a lot of time and money on developing the Atrix 4G and lapdock, so we always believed it would come to as many carriers as possible. It sounds like AT&T had an exclusive period on the initial launch, but that must be expiring soon since Sprint is about to announce their version.
Verizon was always Motorola’s biggest Android customer, but increased competition from the new iPhone has forced Motorola to reach out to more customers to expand their sales. Sprint has only launched the Motorola i1, but it appears the two companies worked out a long term deal now that Motorola’s flagship products will appear on Sprint.
Announcing the two Motorola devices next month sounds a little weird since we have CTIA next week, but Sprint is expected to focus on the EVO 3D so that could be why they decided to space out the releases. Samsung is also announcing the Nexus S 4G for Sprint next week, so that’s another possible reason that the big Motorola unveiling got bumped to next month.
I believe the Atrix branding is owned by AT&T, so look for Sprint’s version to launch with a different name. The outer casing and design might be a little different, but it still needs to fit in the lapdock accessory so don’t expect anything too radically different.
Motorola owns the Xoom brand, but they were hit with a trademark lawsuit so Sprint’s version might also be marketed under a different name.
Everyone assumes that the EVO 3D will become Sprint’s flagship 4G phone, but the dual-core Snapdragon CPU from Qualcomm is untested and early performance benchmarks show that NVIDIA’s Tegra 2 could be faster.
If you are on Sprint, which dual-core phone would you choose? The HTC EVO 3D or the Motorola Atrix 4G?
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http://androidandme.com/2011/03/car...trix-and-xoom-headed-to-sprint-4g-next-month/
this would actually bring me back to the atrix!!

interesting predictions thread

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http://www.marketwatch.com/story/microsoft-and-nokia-could-pre-empt-apple-2012-08-21
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By Nigam Arora
The culture is changing for the better at Microsoft and Nokia. Neither company has been known to move with speed to upstage the competition. This time is different.
Microsoft and Nokia appear to be moving to pre-empt the Apple iPhone 5 launch with Windows 8 phones.
It is no surprise that Apple will launch iPhone 5 soon; the debut is widely expected on Sept. 12, 2012.
The official launch date of Windows 8 is Oct. 26, 2012. Initially it was expected that Nokia will launch Windows 8 phones around the same date.
Nokia Lumia 900 received rave reviews.
Back in May, when Apple's Siri was asked, "Which is the best smartphone ever?" the answer was not iPhone but Nokia Lumia 900.
The phone was everything that it was touted to be. The fact that Lumia came preloaded with Microsoft Office was and continues to be a very attractive feature. At the time of the launch of Lumia, even though iPhone was far outselling Lumia, for the informed user Lumia was better because of its advanced LTE capability. By some measures, Lumia was a better choice than Google Android based phones.
Lumia 900 runs on Microsoft Windows 7.5. Recently Microsoft cut off the legs of Lumia by announcing that it will not be upgradable to Windows 8. Microsoft's announcement made Lumia 900 a dead-end phone. Who wants to buy a phone with a two year-contract that will not be able to run several new attractive features of Windows 8?
Nokia World takes place in Helsinki on Sept. 5 and 6. Traditionally Nokia World has been the venue of major Nokia announcements. It has been reasonable speculation that Nokia will launch its new phones at Nokia World in Helsinki. Now the announcement of Nokia and Microsoft press event on Sept. 5 makes a launch near certainty.
The long-term risk reward continues to be favorable. It is not out of the question that Windows phones may capture 15% to 20% of the market share. Nokia will experience tough competitors such as HTC and Samsung. Despite tough competition, Nokia has the potential to go over $10 and even as high as $20 in the long run. On the flip side the stock can easily go to zero. There you have it, Nokia can be a 10 bagger or you can lose about $2.00.
Apple stock has been ripping, closing at an all-time high of $665.15 up $17.04. In the marketplace, Nokia and Microsoft are not likely to beat Apple, but astute investors may consider supplementing their Apple holdings with a small amount of Nokia stock.
Nokia may never shine as bright as Apple, but Apple does not have the potential to be a 10 bagger like Nokia. Those investing in Nokia may want to pay special attention to risk control such as the approach advocated by the ZYX Change Method Trade Management Guidelines for speculative stocks.
Full disclosure: Subscribers to The Arora Report are long Apple from $131 and have taken partial profits at $360, $525 and $629. Subscribers are also long Nokia.
My prediction, the iPhone will be a let down. We all can pretty much guess what it will introduce as "revolutionary".
Nokia should've waited until after the iPhone showcasing just to refer to the iPhone shortcomings. However Nokia may make predictions of the iPhone.
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No more HTC devices on sprint this year

I talked to an HTC representative the other day and was told that there will be no more HTC devices on spirit for the rest of the year. Just some info for you all
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That's unfortunate. Although unless they have plans to release another QWERTY slider, I'm not overly concerned with their phone lineup. Unless it leads to something useful being ported.
im not surprised
HTC phones are going the way of blackberries
good riddance

HTC in trouble

http://mobile.theverge.com/2013/7/30/4570490/htc-q3-2013-guidance-first-loss-on-record
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such threads are not needed, we have been seeing them for years now
besides the verge always adds drama on top here is the proper press release
http://www.htc.com/www/about/newsroom/2013/2013-07-30-htc-reports-2013-second-quarter-results/
Taipei, Taiwan – July 30, 2013 – HTC Corporation (the Company, TWSE: 2498), a global leader in mobile innovation and design, today announced consolidated results for the Company and its subsidiaries for the second quarter of 2013.
2Q 2013 Results
HTC posted quarterly revenue of NT$70.7 billion, with gross margin of 23.2 % and operating margin of 1.5%. Net profit and EPS were NT$1.25 billion and NT$1.50, respectively.
“My leadership team continues to focus on execution,” said Peter Chou, CEO of HTC. “We are seeing expected results as we fill the channels and meet demand for the new HTC One. As we broaden our focus to include a new member of the HTC One family, the recently announced One mini, we are looking forward to delivering great products and results in 2H.”
HTC announced key appointments, including Jack Yang to president of South Asia, Sirpa Ikola to senior director of marketing for South Asia, and Lorain Wong to vice president of global PR.
As manufacturing ramped up, the US saw sequential growth in 2Q, as well as expansion in retail channels. EMEA saw renewed strength in major Western European markets and emerging countries.
Progress was observed across Asia. HTC gained market share in Taiwan, showing an improved presence in Hong Kong and warm reception of its products by consumers in Japan. In China, sales of HTC’s high-end models improved, while competition at the mid-tier and affordable intensified. In South Asia, the improvement of key operator relationships provides optimism about the region.
3Q 2013 Outlook
The Company’s outlook for the second quarter of 2013 is as follows:
- 3Q revenue is expected to be in the range of NT$50bn to NT$60bn
- Gross profit margin is expected to be in the range of 18% to 21%
- Operating margin is expected to be in the range of 0% to -8%
The new HTC One has performed well in the market, better than that of our hero products for the same period last year. We aim to extend the momentum as we enter into the second half of 2013. The new HTC One has also helped the company establish strong brand awareness and received numerous accolades as the world’s best smart phone. With the help of HTC One, we have regained superphone market share across major markets including China.
We also have plans underway to launch a range of innovative and competitive mid-tier products in the coming months. We hope to regain momentum and market share in these segments in Q4. This will address our challenge of mid-tier products competiveness
Our overall gross margin has been impacted by the relatively higher cost structure, lack of economy of scale and certain provisions needed to facilitate the clearance of aging products in the channel. Actions have been taken and we expect to see improvement in Q4
We are also optimizing our organization, including the improvement of management efficiency and effectiveness.
People, innovations, and technology are the core assets of HTC. We will continue to invest in innovations and technology, as well as retaining and rewarding our best talents. We look forward to a brighter future for HTC and continue to delight our customers with the best and most exciting products
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you can see clearly that they state, the One is getting them more revenue then last year flagships, but they fall short on the low end side of sales, also they have extra expenses for this quarter causing the predicted loss waste of profit
- 3Q revenue is expected to be in the range of NT$50bn to NT$60bn
- Gross profit margin is expected to be in the range of 18% to 21%
- Operating margin is expected to be in the range of 0% to -8%
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That's a pretty optimistic viewpoint you posted @hamdir. Almost makes it seem like HTC has turned the corner and poised for a rebound (which we all know is far from the truth). Here's Reuters not so optimistic perspective.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/07/30/us-htc-guidance-idUSBRE96T0B920130730
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That's a pretty optimistic viewpoint you posted @hamdir. Almost makes it seem like HTC has turned the corner and poised for a rebound (which we all know is far from the truth). Here's Reuters not so optimistic perspective.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/07/30/us-htc-guidance-idUSBRE96T0B920130730
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what view? i posted HTC's own press release, they explain pretty clearly that their old inventory and lack of mid / low range competition will cause the predict lack of gross margins, tons of positive in the press release as well such as the HTC One performance and their improvements in Asian markets
meanwhile HTC is hard at work for the next flagship while you guys are busy with their profit or losses
does anyone still follows how much Nokia or Sony are loosing? or when they rebound?
Financial up and downs is normal for any company in my opinion and as far as im concerned it's non of my business, i have an amazing smartphone thanks to them and i don't need to contemplate their finance
here is something interesting from your own link
"Even a hero product can't save them," he said, adding that a partnership with another firm - a possibility CEO Peter Chou has said he would look at - was one of the few strong options open to HTC.
Although HTC is expected to soon launch the HTC One Mini, Samsung and Apple are also likely to announce their own new offerings later this year. A planned marketing blitz, which includes enlisting Robert Downey Jr. for a reported $12 million to star in its ad campaigns, is expected to weigh on profit margins.
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more details here
http://focustaiwan.tw/search/201307300029.aspx?q=htc
HTC said its overall gross margin has been impacted by the relatively higher cost structure, lack of economy of scale and certain provisions needed to facilitate the clearance of aging products in the channel.
Peter Chou, chief executive officer of HTC, said the company is taking action to reduce the cost of some key components used in its products, such as displays and mechanical parts, and that the improvements will be apparent in the fourth quarter.
In addition, HTC plans to launch a new range of mid-tier phones in the late third quarter or early fourth quarter to increase its economy of scale and leverage its product portfolio, Chou said.
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"We are bearish on the company in the longer term as it continues to struggle in the premium smartphone segment despite having a good product, while it remains uncompetitive in the low-end segment," Cheng said, who set a price target of NT$145 on the stock.
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Sony and HTC merge and we're gonna have a good time.
I Am Marino said:
Sony and HTC merge and we're gonna have a good time.
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My dream
It's alot of over analyzing but it sure makes me worry. They can't even seem to pump put timely updates at this point... Even to their developer and GE editions. Can't blame the carriers holding up the updates on those...
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hamdir said:
Meanwhile HTC is hard at work for the next flagship while you guys are busy wit their profit or losses
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There's nothing in anything that's been posted that's even remotely uplifting regarding HTC's future.
The One's without question the best phone HTC's ever made yet revenue, profit, and market share are down.
Their guidance for Q3 is projected to be down 30% YOY and Q3 includes their projected revenue for the Mini, Max, and any other devices launching during the quarter.
HTC's cost base is f'd because of their loss of scale. They weren't a "tier one" supplier even with the One's idealistic sales goals which means they pay more than their competitors for the same components and aren't given preference when parts are in scarce supply.
Samsung's monolithic and LG/Sony have deep pocketed parent companies with diverse product lines. Motorola's owned by Google. HTC's too small to compete with those companies as well as the Chinese with their low cost base and priority in the Chinese market.
For the eighth quarter in a row we've discussed HTC's "come back" and for the eighth quarter they've posted continually crappy results with their forward guidance showing no relief. The HTC brand may continue through an acquisition but the company itself is pretty much dead. And that's not my opinion, it's the analyst's which, after these results, all have "sell" ratings on the stock.
hamdir said:
such threads are not needed, we have been seeing them for years now
besides the verge always adds drama on top here is the proper press release
http://www.htc.com/www/about/newsroom/2013/2013-07-30-htc-reports-2013-second-quarter-results/
you can see clearly that they state, the One is getting them more revenue then last year flagships, but they fall short on the low end side of sales, also they have extra expenses for this quarter causing the predicted loss waste of profit
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Than.
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HTC is definitely in trouble. The One is an insanely great device and yet they just had their worst quarter. That sounds pretty bad. And again, with the 5s, budget iphone, note 3 and others I don't know how htc can turn this around.
Like Barry said htc is too small of a company at the end of the day. Sony, apple, LG, Samsung are huge companies that have more resources and you need deep pockets to compete. A merge with another company is almost certain at this point.
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Not to be redundant, but this one from Engadget has a positive tone to it.
HTC: the One is selling better than last year's hero products, but next quarter may see a loss
the previous Q2 profit results were good (reported last month)
and these are Q3 projections, considering the stated reasons
i never discussed a come back, all i said companies for a long time can survive with such up and down, we have tons of examples
come to think of it, Asus and HTC merge makes perfect Sense
Same country, Asus sucks in branding and worldwide distribution of it's products, their smartphone side isn't doing so great but they rock in pc and tablets, while HTC is specializes in smartphones exclusively
Asus only sucks in availability of their mobile stuff though. All their PC parts are available every part of the world. If they applied the same resources with the same enthusiasm + a HTC merger, it would be awesomely awesome beyond awesomeness.
hamdir said:
the previous Q2 profit results were good (reported last month)
and these are Q3 projections, considering the stated reasons
i never discussed a come back, all i said companies for a long time can survive with such up and down, we have tons of examples
come to think of it, Asus and HTC merge makes perfect Sense
Same country, Asus sucks in branding and worldwide distribution of it's products, their smartphone side isn't doing so great but they rock in pc and tablets, while HTC is specializes in smartphones exclusively
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Q2 was awful compared to last year's Q2 which is the most relevant comparison. Q-2-Q comparisons don't take in to account seasonality and other trends. And aging inventory is corporate speak for we overestimated demand and/or the competition is eating our lunch. Microsoft writing down $1B because of the Surface's lackluster sales is a good example. What's going to change for HTC? The One's not helping much and the Max and Mini launch is factored in to their Q3 quidance which projects a loss. Their previous focus on the high-end has made them a late comer in emerging markets. Even there their lack of scale makes an identically spec'd HTC phone more expensive to build than their competitors phones. So the high-end (the One) didn't save them and with limited distribution, higher component prices, and no brand loyalty in the price-focused lower tiers it's hard to envision them making much headway there. All the drivel about a bright future is coming from Peter Chou who's decisions and direction got HTC in to the mess they are currently in. His words kind of remind me of "I'll gladly pay you tomorrow for two hamburgers today." And the impact of their financial condition is already being felt by their customers; ask a One S owner.
HTC would survive just like BlackBerry. Would take a very long time to get back on track. I hope mini and ultra boost up their prifits
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Will be rooting for this underdog!
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BarryH_GEG said:
Q2 was awful compared to last year's Q2 which is the most relevant comparison. Q-2-Q comparisons don't take in to account seasonality and other trends. And aging inventory is corporate speak for we overestimated demand and/or the competition is eating our lunch. Microsoft writing down $1B because of the Surface's lackluster sales is a good example. What's going to change for HTC? The One's not helping much and the Max and Mini launch is factored in to their Q3 quidance which projects a loss. Their previous focus on the high-end has made them a late comer in emerging markets. Even there their lack of scale makes an identically spec'd HTC phone more expensive to build than their competitors phones. So the high-end (the One) didn't save them and with limited distribution, higher component prices, and no brand loyalty in the price-focused lower tiers it's hard to envision them making much headway there. All the drivel about a bright future is coming from Peter Chou who's decisions and direction got HTC in to the mess they are currently in. His words kind of remind me of "I'll gladly pay you tomorrow for two hamburgers today." And the impact of their financial condition is already being felt by their customers; ask a One S owner.
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mateeeeeee the One S is well documented already, the reason for the update drop is that Qualcomm stopped supporting snapdragon 3 and hence didn't provide the drivers for 4.2.2
the One S s4 will most likely receive it, as football said the work restarted on the OTA
also this story was confirmed by shen
I'm done here, it was my mistake to enter the financial discussions again
peace
Blackberry would be the one to fall before HTC. HTC, will come back around..
Sammy and Apple love the attention. Ads Ads Ads Ads. It sinks into peoples heads, that these phones are the latest a and greatest that other phones are garbage to them. All in marketing control.. That's why you see more 15 yr old girls with iPhone more and more everyday. Its all about how you advertise. More advertisement the more you will get out of it. $$$
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