Hi to everybody! I would like to know if this device works 3G in Europe and EEUU, I mean, if I buy this device in Europe, can I use 3G in EEUU? I have read a lot about this device but all comments say that this is imposible because EEUU and Europe use differents bands. So is there any device that can do this? For example iPhone or any other htc.
Thanks a lot!
I'm sorry but wth is EEUU?
If it uses different bands, then it doesn't work...
If I'm correct EEUU is acronym for the Spanish term for the United States and as stated here in a couple of threads the version of the phone that has been announced will not work as a 3G device in the U.S. due to different 3G bands between Europe and the U.S. You'll have to wait for a U.S. version or one for Australia which would work with ATT.
Thanks for all the comments here in this thread. First, yes, you are right, EEUU means U.S., I didn't think about this when I posted it, sorry. So, when you say that I have to wait for a U.S. version, you mean that this device will work in U.S., of course, but it won't work here in Europe, is that right? I wonder if there is any version of this device that support both bands. Maybe this can be a silly question but I'm interested in devices that can support 3G in Europe and U.S. Thanks again!
yosan998 said:
Thanks for all the comments here in this thread. First, yes, you are right, EEUU means U.S., I didn't think about this when I posted it, sorry. So, when you say that I have to wait for a U.S. version, you mean that this device will work in U.S., of course, but it won't work here in Europe, is that right? I wonder if there is any version of this device that support both bands. Maybe this can be a silly question but I'm interested in devices that can support 3G in Europe and U.S. Thanks again!
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What is being released is a version that will work in Europe for 3G and normal GSM. It will only work in GSM voice and EDGE data in the U.S., no 3G. If you're in Europe you're all set. For us Americans we either need to wait for a new version with U.S. frequencies or buy the current version and only get voice and EDGE data speeds.
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i know the euro version won't get 3G here.
but if this phone comes to t-mobile can i unlock it and get 3G on AT&T?
please only answer if you really know the answer, because i plan on getting one if i can get 3G
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i know the euro version won't get 3G here.
but if this phone comes to t-mobile can i unlock it and get 3G on AT&T?
please only answer if you really know the answer, because i plan on getting one if i can get 3G
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no, T-Mo's version won't pick up 3G on AT&T's network. they use different 3G bands. AT&T - 850/1900; T-Mo - 700/2100
Look at post#26 in this thread. Maybe there is some hope that T-mo's version will work on AT&T, but I wouldn't be too optimistic. I certainly wouldn't purchase it based on this information. There's a good chance you won't get a definite answer until the phone is released and someone can post here on this forum if it works with AT&T or not. Also, I wouldn't be surprised if HTC has an agreement with AT&T to disable the radios for AT&T 3G so that folks are forced to buy the AT&T version if they want 3G. I think that is why the latest phone releases in Europe don't support American 3G bands. Earlier phones such as the Kaiser and Hermes models had quad band HSPA that would access 3G in Europe and on AT&T. But, do we know for sure at this point that AT&T is not going to carry this phone? I hear it has been announced on Telstra in Australia which uses the 850 MHz band for 3G. This will work in most areas that support 3G in AT&T's network which is 850/1900. That may be a better option for you than T-mobile's version.
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I hear it has been announced on Telstra in Australia which uses the 850 MHz band for 3G.
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Can you tell me where you read this? I've been keeping tabs on Australian blogs and forums and I have yet to have seen a blip on the radar that this has been announced. An Australian blog has even gone as far to say that Telstra has so far refused to comment on whether they have plans to release the HD2.
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Can you tell me where you read this? I've been keeping tabs on Australian blogs and forums and I have yet to have seen a blip on the radar that this has been announced. An Australian blog has even gone as far to say that Telstra has so far refused to comment on whether they have plans to release the HD2.
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we'll just have to wait for some concrete evidence of this. I've heard this too, but it was nothing more than a rumor. and if I remember correctly, Telstra didn't release their version of the original Touch HD until 3 months after it was released in Europe. so we'll just have to wait
All I want to ask is why create another thread with exactly the same topic again?
Maybe mod should close this thread.
You can buy an HD2 from T-Mobile for $450, or you can buy a European version (I assume quad band) from Amazon for $700. My question is - what bands are supported on the T-Mobile version? Will that GSM band(s?) work on AT&T? Other than working in Europe, any other advantage in going with the $700 version?
Ideally I'd wait for an EVO 4G, but my current phone is coughing up blood, and don't know if it will make it to the summer...
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You can buy an HD2 from T-Mobile for $450, or you can buy a European version (I assume quad band) from Amazon for $700. My question is - what bands are supported on the T-Mobile version? Will that GSM band(s?) work on AT&T? Other than working in Europe, any other advantage in going with the $700 version?
Ideally I'd wait for an EVO 4G, but my current phone is coughing up blood, and don't know if it will make it to the summer...
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all HD2 are quadband GSM, so it will work on any GSM EDGE network
euro HD2 has 900/2100MHz 3G band
telsla HD2 has 850/2100MHz 3G band (ATT)
Tmo USA HD2 has 1700/2100MHz 3G band
EVO 4G is CDMA, only works on Verizon
The Telstra version he mentions is about $780-800USD, just fyi.
Mind you that you have been able to buy T-mobile HD2's in europe and elsewhere for quite some time. It's confusing for the owners of said version when threads get labelled like this. Specify T-mobile US in thread titles.
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Mind you that you have been able to buy T-mobile HD2's in europe and elsewhere for quite some time. It's confusing for the owners of said version when threads get labelled like this. Specify T-mobile US in thread titles.
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Hey! You mean that there are other parts of the world where they have had the HD2 for some time and that the US its actually playing catch up?
Yes, but the US candidate is quite a sprinter; with more ROM and double the Flash memory, the EU version is left in a sore 2nd place even after the late start
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Yes, but the US candidate is quite a sprinter; with more ROM and double the Flash memory, the EU version is left in a sore 2nd place even after the late start
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actually...double the ROM and exactly the same RAM
Im hoping for T-Mobile but come one it was announced months and months ago and still no word on carriers.......
There is no confirmation of this, but we do know come July T-Mobile is launching a new Samsung device that is suppose to be Android... so we shall see!
does the galaxy s support 3G on both t-mobile and at&t? the specs say it does HSPA on 1900 and 2100mhz.
wikipedia says t-mobile uses 1700/2100mhz for 3G. the galaxy s only does 2100mhz. so what does this mean? can the galaxy s do 3G on t-mobile?
wikipedia says at&t uses 850mhz and 1900mhz for 3G. galaxy s only does 1900mhz. again, what does this mean? can the galaxy s do 3G on at&t?
this is a little confusing. sorry, i wish i knew more about 3G frequencies. someone please enlighten me. does 3G require operation on two frequencies, or does support for only one 3G frequency allow 3G data connections?
the reason i'm asking is that i'll be in singapore soon, and i might be able to buy a galaxy s, but i want to make sure i can use 3G in the US.
Since the device launches in Europe first, the supported frequencies are tailored for this market. I am pretty sure you will get versions appropriate for the US market, probably even one with CDMA.
ok, so a US version would support different frequencies than the european one. does this mean that the european one definitely can't do 3G in the US? thanks.
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ok, so a US version would support different frequencies than the european one. does this mean that the european one definitely can't do 3G in the US? thanks.
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I think its either T-Mo runs the same as Euro countries and At&t doesn't or Vice versa. I know one is on a different spectrum. Thats why the nexus had to have a different radio to run 3g on At&t.
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wow i'm slow. I didnt see Ben74's post. I will just leave my post up to look like a d-bag
God i hope its TMO they need a good android phone
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ok, so a US version would support different frequencies than the european one. does this mean that the european one definitely can't do 3G in the US? thanks.
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anyone got a definitive answer to this question?
It sounds like a phone based on this model (to be called the Samsung i897 or the Samsung Captivate) is rumored to be coming to AT&T soon. I hope it's true!
Ditto. As much as I like my Tilt2, I need something more reliable and less dated (can't stick with WM6.5 much longer...). Wish there was some release date somewhere or else I'll cave into a N1.
Andy Rubin, Googles VP for development will be in Seoul for the launch of the Galaxy S on Tuesday. Maybe, there will be an announcement then of US carriers.
what scares me the most about the galaxy s coming to at&t is that what if they gimp the features like they mandate that you can only video chat via wifi, or they drop the memory? I am somewhat thinking whether it would be smarter just to buy the international version unlocked since it has the 1900 UMTS 3g bands.
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what scares me the most about the galaxy s coming to at&t is that what if they gimp the features like they mandate that you can only video chat via wifi, or they drop the memory? I am somewhat thinking whether it would be smarter just to buy the international version unlocked since it has the 1900 UMTS 3g bands.
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If someone can confirm that the international version would work on AT&T's 3g network, I'd rather just preorder right now to get a vanilla version of the phone rather than a stripped/bloated version.
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If someone can confirm that the international version would work on AT&T's 3g network, I'd rather just preorder right now to get a vanilla version of the phone rather than a stripped/bloated version.
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i found this article on androidcentral that says the international version won't do 3G in the USA.
http://www.androidcentral.com/hands-samsung-galaxy-s
The bad news is that what we're looking at here is NOT a U.S.-friendly 3G phone. The hardware as displayed supports EDGE at 850/900/1800/1900MHz, meaning that you could use it in the U.S. But the 3G bands are 900/1900/2100MHz, so you're out of luck if you're looking for the standard 850MHZ 3G goodness.
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also, this article claims that the galaxy s will launch on all major carriers in the US, and they have have some evidence to back it up. good news.
http://www.androidcentral.com/samsung-galaxy-s-goes-worldwide-coming-110-countries
We're already pretty sure it's coming to AT&T, T-Mobile, and very possibly Sprint and Verizon in the United States.
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I've been reading a lot of posts, in several places. I see a lot of mixed information about the bands. As it stands now, I'm not sure I trust any of the info. How do you know who is correct?
I've seen more that say it will work than say it won't.
All that being said, I feel safer getting one that has both AT&T bands. Otherwise, I'll find myself somewhere that it doesn't work. But then next is the concern about AT&T crippling.
This was posted today: http://androidandme.com/2010/06/news/samsung-galaxy-s-tipped-for-july-21st-launch-on-t-mobile/
A version of the Galaxy S with T-Mobile applications first appeared last month, but the video evidence was taken down and we have not heard much since then. Now a trusted source has told our friends at TmoNews that the Galaxy S could launch on the Big Magenta as early as next month.
If the tipster is to be believed then T-Mobile will launch the Samsung Galaxy S on July 21st. Based on previous rumors and speculation, this time frame matches up nicely with what we have been hearing. Samsung said the Galaxy S would come to the U.S. this summer and T-Mobile is in need of a high-end phone for their Android lineup.
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another report that the galaxy s will launch on t-mobile
http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/samsung-teases-next-android-announce-galaxy-s-bound-for-t-mobil/
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anyone got a definitive answer to this question?
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The vast majority of AT&T's 3g coverage in the US is 850 Mhz. There is some 1900, but they are working on transitioning it to 850.
Tmo uses 1700/2100 for 3g, so again it's the same case.
You'll get some 3g coverage in some areas, but you can't plan on it. Neither carrier has maps available that break down the coverage by frequency
I personally am hoping for an australian version soon. The telstra stuff generally runs on 850/2100, which makes it totally usable for AT&T users in the states.
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The vast majority of AT&T's 3g coverage in the US is 850 Mhz. There is some 1900, but they are working on transitioning it to 850.
Tmo uses 1700/2100 for 3g, so again it's the same case.
You'll get some 3g coverage in some areas, but you can't plan on it. Neither carrier has maps available that break down the coverage by frequency
I personally am hoping for an australian version soon. The telstra stuff generally runs on 850/2100, which makes it totally usable for AT&T users in the states.
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thanks paul. that's what i figured.
I am on AT&T for the main reason that I travel frequently to Europe and Asia (Japan, Hong Kong) and it's the carrier who happens to have devices with 3G bands compatible nearly worldwide (Even though I don't like so much the price AT&T is costing me...)
So... really considering now to switch to the Galaxy tab and say good bye to my good old TP2 (heavily overclocked so still with a bit of life in it !)
I have a few questions
1. there are rumors here and there saying the Tab for AT&T wont have the front facing camera (And then some other places where it's listed as a spec of the AT&T tab). Anybody can confirm / infirm this ? (Would be really pissed to pay such a price for the device if it has been castrated)
2. AT&T is the last US carrier not to have announced a launch date for the tab... (Maybe it's willing to be a bit nice to Apple and its recently commercialized iPad, or maybe it's just an old and slow company...). Pure speculation: is there a chance we'll be able to switch the tab bands from T-Mobile like some have successfully done with other Samsung phones from the galaxy family ?
3. Another pure speculation: has Samsung actually disabled the hardware for voice calls on the US versions ? I hope his will be solved by flashing another firmware. Otherwise I'll just end up buying an international version (Which will be much more expensive...)
You can get the unlocked north american version which should be out by next week. It will cost you an arm and a leg but WILL work with the 850/1900 at&t 3g bands. Here are a few sites that have it:
http://www.mobilecityonline.com/wireless/store/productdetail.asp?productid=26929
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http://negrielectronics.com/samsung-p1000-galaxy-tab-3g-850-1900-2100-oem-unlocked.html
Hope this helps.
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You can get the unlocked north american version which should be out by next week. It will cost you an arm and a leg but WILL work with the 850/1900 at&t 3g bands. Here are a few sites that have it:
http://www.mobilecityonline.com/wireless/store/productdetail.asp?productid=26929
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http://negrielectronics.com/samsung-p1000-galaxy-tab-3g-850-1900-2100-oem-unlocked.html
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Thanks. Yes these bands are AT&T ones. Though waiting a few more weeks should allow to get it directly from AT&T at a lower price...
The good news is, if the websites are correct about the specs, the front facing camera is there (And I doubt Samsung will make a different Tab)
Seem to imply the voice call work to (negrielectronics) but it could be a mistake or a trick (works only through skype...) or just simple taht we are talking about an overseas model with the right 3G bands
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Thanks. Yes these bands are AT&T ones. Though waiting a few more weeks should allow to get it directly from AT&T at a lower price...
The good news is, if the websites are correct about the specs, the front facing camera is there (And I doubt Samsung will make a different Tab)
Seem to imply the voice call work to (negrielectronics) but it could be a mistake or a trick (works only through skype...) or just simple taht we are talking about an overseas model with the right 3G bands
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What concerns me are the comments that suggest US carriers will somehow restrict their service to GT so only data will work (no voice). So that raises the question for those of us who get the unlocked version - how do we get our Gt on to ATT or others? I guess I'm asking which ATT phone is it close enough to that I can acuire and swap the SIM card?
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Thanks. Yes these bands are AT&T ones. Though waiting a few more weeks should allow to get it directly from AT&T at a lower price...
The good news is, if the websites are correct about the specs, the front facing camera is there (And I doubt Samsung will make a different Tab)
Seem to imply the voice call work to (negrielectronics) but it could be a mistake or a trick (works only through skype...) or just simple taht we are talking about an overseas model with the right 3G bands
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Well, from what I hear is the 850/1900 band version will be an unlocked north amaerican version which can work with rogers (Canada) and at&t for the US by just adding your SIM card in. It is unknow weather the at&t network will identify the galaxy tab and change your plan accordingly if that is even how it will work with at&t. I beleive they WILL have a different plan for data for this device as T-Mobile, Sprint and Verizon are following this. Also, the at&t version WILL be a different model in appreance and features as this unlocked one will not. Probablly because at&t WILL remove the front camera and who knows what else (thanks to the iphone). That is why the samsung site has not put the at&t version on their site yet. really do hope it will be treated as a PDA phone thru at&t's network (for the unlocked version)
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You can get the unlocked north american version which should be out by next week. It will cost you an arm and a leg but WILL work with the 850/1900 at&t 3g bands. Here are a few sites that have it:
http://www.mobilecityonline.com/wireless/store/productdetail.asp?productid=26929
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http://negrielectronics.com/samsung-p1000-galaxy-tab-3g-850-1900-2100-oem-unlocked.html
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I just heard today from Negri electronic that this version of the tab will not be available until JANUARY ...so don't bother pre-ordering it.
clubtech said:
I just heard today from Negri electronic that this version of the tab will not be available until JANUARY ...so don't bother pre-ordering it.
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That's funny as they told me last Friday that the warehouse in CA is expecting them on November 10th. Also, I work near the mobile city online store in NYC and stopped in there and they said this week they would have them. hmmm
UPDATE: Just sent a message to my contact @ Nergi. He said they just received the notice that this version of the tab will not be in till early 2011. You were right clubtech... Was hoping you were wrong.. lol That sucks!
Mmh all I have been reading so far sucks
Figured I would fire up this thread and bump it up as Bell is releasing the Galaxy Tab on November 12th. That will be our solution for the 850/1900 3G version I guess..? I sent a message to Nergi to see if they will have this version. I'll keep you posted.
I have my G-Tab now (Euro version with phone and data working great on AT&T in USA) Be glad to answer questions. General comment: I LOVE it! The form factor and wt are just right for me and it has all the features I miss on my iPad. Only criticism is that I find Android a bit less stable than IOS but that might be what Gingerbread or Honeycomb will address.
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I have my G-Tab now (Euro version with phone and data working great on AT&T in USA) Be glad to answer questions. General comment: I LOVE it! The form factor and wt are just right for me and it has all the features I miss on my iPad. Only criticism is that I find Android a bit less stable than IOS but that might be what Gingerbread or Honeycomb will address.
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Are you getting good 3g coverage? I see your in PA... Close to me. I know the 1900 band does blanket this area to some degree but the 850 band is alot stronger. I think I may wait for a full 3g band with both 850/1900 bands. Seems like the bell version will be the answer to that. Glad to hear you love the device.
I read that the bell version can't make any phone calls fyi .
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Are you getting good 3g coverage? I see your in PA... Close to me. I know the 1900 band does blanket this area to some degree but the 850 band is alot stronger. I think I may wait for a full 3g band with both 850/1900 bands. Seems like the bell version will be the answer to that. Glad to hear you love the device.
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Yes the 3g coverage is fine in the Reading area (better than my iphone, not sure why) I made decision to go for the Eur version when it became apparent the ATT version would be limited to data (no phone) and I couldn't get an answer on whether the "North American" version (with 850 UMTS) would arrive with phone capability OK. I saw a map of ATT 1900 coverage and saw that it takes care of at least 75% of the US, including virtuall all of the East, so I'm comfortable with my decision.
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Figured I would fire up this thread and bump it up as Bell is releasing the Galaxy Tab on November 12th. That will be our solution for the 850/1900 3G version I guess..? I sent a message to Nergi to see if they will have this version. I'll keep you posted.
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Yes that's my hope. It's also probably a sign the AT&T one must be around the corner
I could not find out whether the Bell one would have call functions or not (That would be another great sign or opportunity)
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I read that the bell version can't make any phone calls fyi .
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Is it a confirmed information ?
Thanks for the info
I think I've convinced myself to get one of these, but am wondering if I am correct in my understanding that there are 2 versions coming: One with LTE and one without.
If that is correct, will the LTE version still do everything radiowise (GSM/HSPA+ etc) and just also add LTE capabilities to the mix?
Finally, I am working in Sweden at the moment, I assume the LTE version will work with Telia's network (in LTE mode)?
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I think I've convinced myself to get one of these, but am wondering if I am correct in my understanding that there are 2 versions coming: One with LTE and one without.
If that is correct, will the LTE version still do everything radiowise (GSM/HSPA+ etc) and just also add LTE capabilities to the mix?
Finally, I am working in Sweden at the moment, I assume the LTE version will work with Telia's network (in LTE mode)?
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This is what me and a lot of other people are wondering about. The marketing rep for Samsung said in a video that it will have HSPA+ AND LTE but does that mean two different models? Or that the capabilities of both are stock? The spec sheets don't say anything about LTE on any of the pre-order sites I've found but the samsung page says that it is an LTE device. I'm completely confused. I wanna buy the unlocked unbranded version but not if it doesn't include LTE...
I saw from somewhere that the Korean version will have LTE support. No information about NFC.
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Yeah we get LTE + NFC for korean market but it sucks when you leave the country and realize it's not gonna work
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Yeah we get LTE + NFC for korean market but it sucks when you leave the country and realize it's not gonna work
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James,
Why does it not work when you leave the country?
Also, do you know if the LTE+NFC version does everything the non-LTE version does (eg HSPA+)?
I'm thinking of just ordering one in from S Korea if it does....
I too want to know: HSPA+ AND LTE or is it one or the other but not both?
Thanks,
Any further update on LTE now that there has actually been some delivery ?
Is there a S Korean ship date for the LTE version?
Yes, very good question! I have been following this release closely the last couple of days, but no words on this issue!
It's really strange, as this is the one real deal breaker for me. No way I am going to buy this device without LTE.
But don't you guys think that they are releasing this in the beginning of next year when first movers have bought this and the fuzz about the product stops? I guess so, unfortunately. It's basically the same story with Galaxy S II / LTE version.