SMSSync with Exchange 2010 Tests (2307x Builds) - Touch HD General

Dear you,
First of all, i hope this is the right section. Since i'm talking about an issue i found on latest builds, i suppose it is. Moderators feels free to change section if necessary.
I've flashed yesterday my Touch HD trying 3 rom (all 2307x branch) and found always the same issue: when syncing to exchange 2010 everything works but SMSSync.
No way, the sms app seems broken, not only regarding SMSSend button but either SMSSync through EAS (well actually some of them don't even have the SMS native message app).
Everything worked correctly with previous rom (21xxx), i was able to sync and sending messages both from OWA and OL2010.
Can anyone confirm there are issues with the SMS? Any idea on how to solve that?
I know SMSSync through EAS is something pretty new, i'm just stressing that.
NB: I'm using Exchange 2010 RTM, and was working with 21000 branch, this means no issues server side.

cant be much help, but damn - didnt know 2010 RTM'd! i thought it was due in in the next week or 2.
either way - i've heard it's pretty good.
on a more helpful note - have you checked Technet? im sure theres gonna be plenty more people who are in a situation to test SMSsync than on here...

HTC Messaging problem
Stupid HTC. They've released HTC Messaging without even knowing what they were doing..
Actually HTC Messaging Application uses it's own service to deliver/receive SMS in manila 2.5. What's wrong? Well, defaults messaging app from windows mobile is needed as default's sms/MMS provider to deliver SMS to exchange server. Using 3rd parties providers completely removes functionality. I don't know how it works in depth, i'm not a WinMO guru, however after applying zenkinz 1.2 patch, all NEW messages started to correctly sync with exchange 2010. Since only new messages started syncing i belive the winmo default SMS Service writes somewhere what is in need to sync when a message arrives or is sent.
This is a shame: i thought from the first 2307x built the messaging app was completely broken, but it wasn't Microsoft's fault but HTC's!!! I spent a whole weekend about it!!!
Argumentative note: they've released the HTC Messaging along with WinMo 6.5 update: this means they're cutting out SMSSync feature from the beginning. I'm thinking to all those poor IT Pros which are buying an HTC to test sync functionalities. They will end up with an headache.
Please note: Zenkinz patch addresses SMS only. Applying this patch disables MMS functionalities.
You can find Zenkinz patch here (i hope cross posting is allowed this case):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=556614
Please, can any mod to put a [Solved] tag?
Thanks.
EDIT:
@veehexx: Unfortunately there was no technet to help me, i suppose it's an unsupported scenario. After all, i don't think it was microsoft intention to have it's SMS App completely rewritten by HTC!
I had to use a man-in-the-middle (better service in the middle, LOL) approach to understand winMo side activesync hadn't any knowledge of SMS received/sent.

Oh yes, this is really something I could slap HTC's face for.
How could they replace WM's text messaging and disabling SMSSync with exchange 2010??
I recently bought a HTC HD mini which has WM 6.5.3 and it was impossible to sync SMS until I used Zenyee 1.2 patch. Plus I had to install ArcSoft MMS. Otherwise no MMS could be send/received anymore after the patch.
It works now, but it doesn't feel clean. When I click on a text message in Manila it still opens HTC Messaging to view it. Only if I click on Inbox it goes to Outlook.
Despite all the good work that HTC has done for WM; with HTC Messaging they just overstated the case...

are u using Exchange Active Sync in wireless?

I've found another problem with SMS Sync, any rom, even clean one.
Sending SMS from Outlook or OWA just works 2-3 times before AS process on windows mobile hangs on sync. Soft reset is needed which sometimes means double sending SMS.
I've tried almost everything, disable T9, word correction, no way. It just hangs. I suggest to use SMS Sync to keep messages on your inbox only, not using send feature from anywhere but Windows Mobile. To me, it's something with Windows mobile.

just tried to setup our Exchange Server 2010 and my phone with activesync on wireless and it works like a charm

Randolph2000 can you please try sending some SMS from Outlook or owa using 2G/3G connectivity?
Activesync hangs to me after 2-3 SMS.

playerkiller said:
Randolph2000 can you please try sending some SMS from Outlook or owa using 2G/3G connectivity?
Activesync hangs to me after 2-3 SMS.
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how can i send you SMS? do u live in PH?

Not to me.
To someone of your friends. Just to check if it hangs to you either using exchange activesync.

playerkiller said:
Not to me.
To someone of your friends. Just to check if it hangs to you either using exchange activesync.
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aahh yeah im using it a lot..

randolph2000 said:
are u using Exchange Active Sync in wireless?
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Of course! Where's the fun in that otherwise?

playerkiller said:
I've found another problem with SMS Sync, any rom, even clean one.
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Can you confirm that this issue also appears on clean roms that come without HTC Messaging?

Cipher said:
Can you confirm that this issue also appears on clean roms that come without HTC Messaging?
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I do. It happens with Pure titanium rom. I'm actually using clean rom by siemenslover, it happened with every build i tried.
(just for reference, this one. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=634514)

playerkiller said:
I do. It happens with Pure titanium rom. I'm actually using clean rom by siemenslover, it happened with every build i tried.
(just for reference, this one. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=634514)
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So, it would be pointless to write HTC support to fix this...
Anyway, I wrote HTC to include SMS Sync feature on the HD Mini in their HTC Messaging. Let's see what their answer will be.

Cipher said:
So, it would be pointless to write HTC support to fix this...
Anyway, I wrote HTC to include SMS Sync feature on the HD Mini in their HTC Messaging. Let's see what their answer will be.
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Guess it's something wrong with some software which come with the rom. Looking on WPsupport forum, there seems to be some issues with predictive text feature, although disabling it won't help at all. I've tweeted the MSExchange Team to have a look. Let's hope something happens.

Cipher said:
Anyway, I wrote HTC to include SMS Sync feature on the HD Mini in their HTC Messaging. Let's see what their answer will be.
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Hi, did you receive any answer from HTC concerning this?

Are there any updates on this issue? I've the same problem with the latest 1.36 from HTC with Zenyee-Patch

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SMTP hotfix not working, what now

I installed the SMTP Hotfix from Microsoft but i still cant send my mails. What else can i do?
Any ideas how i cant get this working?
You can check Microsoft forums too.
I also have unresolved smtp sending email problem from one of my accounts.
Email hotfix didn't help.
There'a another fix around here but I didn't try that yet.
Actually, I also use ProfiMail, excellent email client and it works no problem.
Does Profimail fully integrate and use the same database as pocketoutlook? Or would i have 2 mail programs side by side. If the second i guess i could not uses Profilmail from TF3D too.
Do you have a link to this issue in the microsoft forum. I imagine this would hard to find..
nurps said:
Does Profimail fully integrate and use the same database as pocketoutlook? Or would i have 2 mail programs side by side. If the second i guess i could not uses Profilmail from TF3D too.
Do you have a link to this issue in the microsoft forum. I imagine this would hard to find..
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The link I will post later on, now it's on my laptop..
What do you mean by the same database??? It's a professional email program,
The only difference - no HTML answer/forward.
And it doesn't handle Hotmail.
Here's the link:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=2781172
It's another fix, I didn't try that yet.
That fix istn working either. Actually i meant the link to the microsoft forum..to see if another attempt to fix it is made..
nurps said:
That fix istn working either. Actually i meant the link to the microsoft forum..to see if another attempt to fix it is made..
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http://social.microsoft.com/Forums/.../thread/3d1ca92e-6de8-415e-ad74-8d3c426adb08/
But the solution hasn't been found there either.
Maybe diggin' through these Microsoft
forums would help.
I also think that we should remove the whole account >
reboot the device > and than set this account again.
As I said, I use ProfiMail anyway so it works for me.
I also think some servers make bigger problems than others.
I experienced this before on a different platform...
doministry said:
I also think that we should remove the whole account >
reboot the device > and than set this account again.
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Damn i think this is worth trying. I deleted recreated the account before..but it never occured to me to do a reboot after deleting it...that might be important...
Yeah...
But if not, I don't know than....
Ok that didnt do any good either.
I have no idea than....
I made a hardreset, installed the hotfix, setup my account. Still not working. There must be something special about my mail hosting service..at least poutlook seems to think its special since it works with other mail apps.
Well hard to say man.
I have one account which was working perfectly on
Symbian UIQ platform's default Email,
ProfiMail on Symbian UIQ,
And now ProfiMail on WM .
But not on X1 default messaging.
Which works no prob with my other account as well as Hotmail...
No idea.
Yea i`m having one on GMX, working fine with the X1. And then 2 over my own webspace, with them i cant send via poutlook. But it works fine with other programs..even a java midlet on my previous phone was able to handle that. So i'm beginning to think this is a different bug.
The new firmware fixed it...for now..

[SOLVED] Syncing with exhange over the air

Guys
I've searched the wiki and the forum and cant find my answer, although i'm certain that this question will have been asked before
I've recently converted from an iphone to a touch hd and want my work email to sync over the air to my phone
this worked flawlessly on my iphone but on my touch hd it doesnt seem to sync unless i go into mail and press send and receive.
fyi: i'm running duttys 6.5 leo rom
cameronm said:
Guys
I've searched the wiki and the forum and cant find my answer, although i'm certain that this question will have been asked before
I've recently converted from an iphone to a touch hd and want my work email to sync over the air to my phone
this worked flawlessly on my iphone but on my touch hd it doesnt seem to sync unless i go into mail and press send and receive.
fyi: i'm running duttys 6.5 leo rom
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Go in your device to ActiveSync-->Menu-->shedule...and check your settings. if you wanted real push then the setting should be : "as items arrive"
yeah i've already set that. Interestingly if i click sync in active sync app it then retrieves the mail from the server.
I have noticed that i occassionally get a message
'the security certificate on the server is not valid ...'
but it still syncs?
I also didnt get this message on my iphone
my works flawlessly with the settings above... sadly too well and i cant escape my emails!
the only thing i can suggest to try, is to un associate and re associate the hd with the exchange server and see if that fixes
as for the security cert, never had that, but i am probably on a different server (unless we work for some company) and im usings leos 3.55 rom
even with your little prob, the HD is still better than the iphone
fixed:
i de-associated and re-associated the device and it seem to fix it
(that and installing the certificate from my office server!!)
thanks
and yes it knocks spots of the iphone as a business phone .. just need to find some nice juicy hd games

SMS and Exchange 2010

I've been using Exchange 2010 for a while now, all the way from beta, and one of the nicest things is it's 6.5 integration allowing you to send and view SMS's from the Outlook/OWA interfaces.
Problem is, it seems that HTC Messaging breaks this, I cant send any SMS's and they dont show up in the Outlook interfaces.
Anyone know how to get it working again? I know I can 'disable' HTC Messaging, and if needs must I'll do that, but it brings with it other issues if you do.
Anyone? there has to be a way?
Yes, yesterday I tried out to disable HTC-messaging, because SMS synching Exc2010 did not work.
And yes, after following all four steps, as described here, it did come back!
Downside so far is, you cannot write an SMS through the HTC-contact-app, so you'll have to use a different "new SMS" function, and you will not get threaded SMS view, just plain old classic view. But you still can view new SMSs in the HTC inbox of sense.
I can live with that
Yeah, that's what I used to do on the HD, however I've kinda got used to the new Messaging client on a device that can run it at least
I'll open a support case with HTC and see if they will acknowledge the problem, and see if they have an official fix. If not, it's the hassle of finding an ArcSoft that wont stuff things up as well, and back to TMail....
Just got this from HTC
At the moment this is not fully compatible. Please keep an eye on our website, I have noted the information on he new Exchange 2010 and we may indeed implement this in the future without having to hack the registry (please do not do this as it voids any Warranty and in some cases can brick the PDA). I cannot confirm if we will go ahead with this or not at the moment until I have more information.
Thank you.
the_ape said:
Just got this from HTC
At the moment this is not fully compatible. Please keep an eye on our website, I have noted the information on he new Exchange 2010 and we may indeed implement this in the future without having to hack the registry (please do not do this as it voids any Warranty and in some cases can brick the PDA). I cannot confirm if we will go ahead with this or not at the moment until I have more information.
Thank you.
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I have to say a "fair play" to HTC re. this response - actually seems like someone who knows what they're talking about has looked at it (all be it probably briefly) which is a huge leap over the normal "have you tried resetting it sir?" response.
Obviously the ideal response would've been "yes we know, our guys are working on it as we speak, should be ready around Xmas time".. we can live and hope!
Probably wouldn't hurt for all of us interested in getting this working to drop them a line stating such and thus hopefully raising it up their priority list.. can someone please confirm an email address?
I've just used the standard HTC Support service through the website, I've posted a reply saying that it's a feature MS are Talking Up with the release of Exchange 2010 and WM6.5, as it is, and as it stands none of the HTC 6.5 phones will actualy work using the feature.
So let's hope...
I asked them to seriously look into it, as it's a Microsoft published feature that's being broken, and got this back seems someone at HTC (even if it is 1st line) has some common sense. Seems the Irish service center is a good one to target for problems
"Thank you for the feedback and suggestion Ashleigh, it would be a very good idea to include this feature in the future with new updates. I am going to see if this would be possible. I hope it is as I would use this as well."
the_ape said:
I asked them to seriously look into it, as it's a Microsoft published feature that's being broken, and got this back seems someone at HTC (even if it is 1st line) has some common sense. Seems the Irish service center is a good one to target for problems
"Thank you for the feedback and suggestion Ashleigh, it would be a very good idea to include this feature in the future with new updates. I am going to see if this would be possible. I hope it is as I would use this as well."
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Once again, "fair play"
SimonW500 said:
Once again, "fair play"
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Hey guys,
are there any news about this one?
AFAIK non of the avail updates fixes this.
Alf_R said:
Hey guys,
are there any news about this one?
AFAIK non of the avail updates fixes this.
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Be nice to know if anyone has tried the new 1.66 firmware and tested Exchange. I am in Australia and as one carrier here is exclusive till end of March there will be no 1.66 for me for ages.
If it works. I will HSPL my device with the UK version but only if it fixes the issue. Then when warranty is needed I will tell them i had no choice as I wanted a default Windows Mobile feature back.
Unfortunately 1.66 doesn't fix this one
Just got my new SIM free HD2 and am having the same sort of problem when trying to Sync my texts via Exchange 2010.....have also contacted HTC support but guess I'll get the same answer i.e. we're looking into it.
Let's hope that enough people want to use the text sync feature and contact HTC so that they actualyl sort it.....ASAP?
Russell
I had consulted HTC a couple weeks back. Speaking to the service rep he mentioned that the developers didn't have access to an Exchange 2010 server. I found this rather odd.
Anyway as I run my OWN server I have offered to the service rep that they can have an account on my server if they wish to test with. He sounded very excited and I told him I would need time to setup an acount (and segregation from my clients). He even rang me back later that day to chase up the details. I had sent through all the info they need to for OWA and for Outlook via HTTP.
This was a couple weeks ago and early last week I received an email saying they are still working on the issue. So we will wait and see what happens.
Hey guys, any update on this?
This is a bit weird but... I have managed to get this to work fine, on 2 different ROM's so far (both Touch Pro 2's, one a T7373 and the other a T7378). To get it to work on my phone, I took my 3 SIM out, and put in an Optus SIM. On first sync, it worked. To get my mate's to work, we took his 3 SIM out, and put in an Exetel (uses Optus network) SIM. Same thing.
No idea how or why... but we all have SMS sync working properly now, can send and receive SMS via Outlook.
I've tried it yesterday and I've received a couple of SMS from the phone, but I can't send through Outlook, can send via Outlook OWA, but the messages never gets through and activesync on the phone takes 99% cpu and I have to reset the phone to get it to work again. It's frustrating.
You just send a message from Outlook and it goes to your phone via ActiveSync and sends correctly? Damn!
I've got a message from HTC support that it should work fine with the latest official ROM update, anybody can confirm?

Windows 6.5 + Exchange 2010 SMS Sync

Hey everybody!
I presume there won't be too many people that will have had experience with the SMS sync feature, so I hope one or two people out there can help me.
I have the problem that everthing is activated, but it only synced the last conversation with my mate (so lets say 2 text messages out of a couple of hundred).
Anyone have an idea how to force exchange to sync ALL the messages?
Using a Touch Pro 2, in case that should help diagnostics move along a bit
Unfortunately i'm having this same issue. I would like to simply recreate the whole SMS/MMC folder in my Exchange box, but havn't found a way to force the behavior. I get the feeling SMS syncing was a last minute thought and not completely fleshed out.
As I said, strange thing is that everything that is coming in on the phone is now being synced...
all the messages prior aren't, with the exception of the 2 sms between me and my mate.
Gotta love Microsoft. Never gets boring....
Has anyone experienced any issues with syncing sms messages on the newer builds of 23xxx? Specifically I've noticed that when I send the messages from Outlook 2010, sometimes (not always) my phone gets really sluggish. The process activesync.exe starts using up tons of CPU usage. I'm currently using a HD2 using Kumar's ROM based on WM 6.5.5 b23569
J.
jbullock50 said:
Has anyone experienced any issues with syncing sms messages on the newer builds of 23xxx? Specifically I've noticed that when I send the messages from Outlook 2010, sometimes (not always) my phone gets really sluggish. The process activesync.exe starts using up tons of CPU usage. I'm currently using a HD2 using Kumar's ROM based on WM 6.5.5 b23569
J.
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I can definitely confirm that for my HTC HD Mini. It has a wm6.5.3 stock rom, i had to use Zenyee patch to disable HTC Messaging to get SMS Sync working, because HTC screwed up on that.
And I can confirm, that sending SMS through Outlook 2010 slows down the device and ActiveSync goes up to 98% cpu usage.
Any news on that? A hotfix or something?
Any solutions to this yet? I'm having the same issues + the issue that I can't send sms from Outlook but only from Outlook OWA
ivanek666 said:
Any solutions to this yet? I'm having the same issues + the issue that I can't send sms from Outlook but only from Outlook OWA
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you need outlook 2010 to be able to send SMS's from outlook itself, any other version will not work, ive had 2003, 2007 and now 2010, and only 2010 does it.
also ive expirienced my phone being slow and useless when SMS syncing is enabled, its really a pain in the ass.
ive gone through 20 phones in the last 2 months, constantly buying and selling, its getting ridiculous, no 1 phone does everything i want.
all i need is full exchange connectivity (tasks and sms included), mobile office so i can use my spreadsheets, slide out keyboard, 3G, decent camera with flash. its obviously neither android, WM or apple can meet all those requirements.

Text Messages not not syncing - ActiveSync

Hello.
I have researched this problem I came across and still can't find a solution to this.
Some ROMs like Omega and Energy do not sync text messages via ActiveSync even though the option is checked. There was another ROM (Kumars) on which syncing worked but still did not work properly (did not delete text from phone once deleted from outlook).
Has anyone got any ideas, CAB files or Registy Tweaks to fix it? It's not a very serious issue but I don't really make most of my new HD2 without that simple option
Thanks for any help
Is noone able to help me?
txt messages syncing over activesync? syncing to where? not the standard activesync to windows mobile device center, cos that doesnt do txt messages, (at least ive neer seen it)
My HD2 doesn't make my morning coffee for me. Can no one help me?
crisisinthecity said:
My HD2 doesn't make my morning coffee for me. Can no one help me?
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stock or custom coffee grounds??
crisisinthecity said:
My HD2 doesn't make my morning coffee for me. Can no one help me?
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Clearly your battery pins are bent, or you're not scrolling far enough up the list
I recommend a custom ROM, I think you'll find the "~[FoLgErS]~" series to be right up your alley
My HD2 never wants to have sexy time with me, is there a ROM for that?
SecrtAgentMan said:
My HD2 never wants to have sexy time with me, is there a ROM for that?
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"You're holding it wrong"
No. I am talking about syncing text messages (sms) over ActiveSync to an Exchange Server 2010. Is it so funny? It used to work on stock rooms.
Near as I can tell, this feature is not ready for prime time.
In my case, I can create the SMS in Outlook. It gets synced onto my phone, and appears in SMS Sent Items... but it is not actually sent.
Then if on the phone I later create an SMS in the same conversation and send it, that message and the ones that were synced over ActiveSync all get sent out.
I'm running Indie's Omega ROM 2.7.2 but I recall similar issues with stock ROMs. I just don't think this works properly. It could be an issue with the HTC messaging client not behaving exactly like the Microsoft one in some way significant to how the ActiveSync client invokes the SMS client.
Um, and for all you know-it-alls mocking the OPs question about SMS and ActiveSync, well, SUCK IT!
(Just kidding -- this is a relatively recent addition to ActiveSync and probably not a lot of people know about it.)
Well. I must say it worked properly on stock roms. I had no problems sending texts from my outlook and also receiving them was ok. They used to appear in outlook seconds after they arrived to the phone. Now nothing appears and texts dont even get send when sent from outlook. This feature worked in Kumars ROM as far as i remember but it did not in Engergy and Omega ROMs.
Nobody has got any ideas?
As this is the first most of us have heard of this, I doubt you'll get an answer.
I also have this problem. AND it is a "stock ROM". (But its a swedish rom).
But I can sync them to "myphone.micrsoft.com", but I want to sync them to the mailaccount on a Exchange 2010 server.
It's a htc message client issue. If you use the Zenyee Disable HTC messaging 1.2 it works

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