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HD2 on AT&T

Let's just get this thread started, so we don't have to go searching thru various threads and sites to find out any possible news regarding the HD2 coming to AT&T in the US. This is the basis of this new thread:
grandpanda said:
Somebody reported that he handled a prototype HD2 for ATT-USA. It is scheduled for early 2010 release... I am trying to squeeze more info from him.
Just take it for what it's worth though.
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Grandpanda- my butt is falling asleep! I'm on the edge of my seat, waiting word of this possibility. I was shocked to see the text HD2 and att in the same sentence. Please let us know as soon as you hear anything.

I'm Not Shure what Grandpanda hear but I'm very Interesting to know if the HD2 come to AT&T.

Where would this unit fit in their lineup with the Diamond2 on the lower end & the iPhone on the higher end? Don't get me wrong, I'd be very interested to see this phone come to AT&T, but I'm not sure how they'd manage it...

t-readyroc said:
Where would this unit fit in their lineup with the Diamond2 on the lower end & the iPhone on the higher end? Don't get me wrong, I'd be very interested to see this phone come to AT&T, but I'm not sure how they'd manage it...
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They better find a way to manage it- or they will end up losing a lot of customers that would like the iphone experience with the flexibility of Windows Mobile. I would suspect that could cost them millions of dollars in lost 2-year contracts if Sprint, Verizon, or T-Mobile releases the HD2. What good is it to remain loyal to the iphone while hundreds of loyal customers get fed up I leave. They were already the last one's to release the Touch Pro 2. It's time to take care of the WM users who want the the high-end phones, or they will go elsewhere to escape the iphone prison they are trapped in.

Where it fits in the lineup might be directly related to when their iphone exclusivity ends. I believe it's sometime next year, but I haven't seen a specific date. The other question would be what does the next gen iphone look like relative to the HD2. One thing going for the iphone is it's apparent ease of use, at the expense of flexibility, for the average consumer. It's brought a lot of people into the smartphone ranks and has certainly driven data revenue for ATT. It will be interesting to see what direction Apple takes with the iphone as more and more handsets come to market with similar features and better flexibility.
I use an iphone now, but can't wait to get my hands on an HD2 with ATT 3g, either through them or one brought in from Australia when it launches there.

bugsy said:
Where it fits in the lineup might be directly related to when their iphone exclusivity ends. I believe it's sometime next year, but I haven't seen a specific date. The other question would be what does the next gen iphone look like relative to the HD2. One thing going for the iphone is it's apparent ease of use, at the expense of flexibility, for the average consumer. It's brought a lot of people into the smartphone ranks and has certainly driven data revenue for ATT. It will be interesting to see what direction Apple takes with the iphone as more and more handsets come to market with similar features and better flexibility.
I use an iphone now, but can't wait to get my hands on an HD2 with ATT 3g, either through them or one brought in from Australia when it launches there.
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Is good idea but the 3G band don't work in AT&T HSDPA network,just can connect using EDGE 12 not bad.

mojohio said:
They better find a way to manage it- or they will end up losing a lot of customers that would like the iphone experience with the flexibility of Windows Mobile. I would suspect that could cost them millions of dollars in lost 2-year contracts if Sprint, Verizon, or T-Mobile releases the HD2.
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I couldn't agree w/you more. I'm actually almost already there with the Droid going to Verizon.
bugsy said:
Where it fits in the lineup might be directly related to when their iphone exclusivity ends. I believe it's sometime next year, but I haven't seen a specific date.
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I think you're right on with this assessment.

wonsanim said:
Is good idea but the 3G band don't work in AT&T HSDPA network,just can connect using EDGE 12 not bad.
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You are correct with the current version, but I was referring to if an ATT version is released. I think we can also expect to see a version in Australia if we go by the previous HD release. If that is the case it would have the 850Mhz band which is compatible with ATT.

edited - had the wrong phone

hey bugsy this is a very good idea

bugsy said:
You are correct with the current version, but I was referring to if an ATT version is released. I think we can also expect to see a version in Australia if we go by the previous HD release. If that is the case it would have the 850Mhz band which is compatible with ATT.
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http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=2062&c=htc_hd2_us_htc_leo
Lets hope this is true
HTC HD2 US (HTC Leo) Specs
GSM850, GSM900, GSM1800, GSM1900, UMTS850, UMTS1900

I really hope ATT gets this in a reasonable amount of time. My TP2 is falling apart
However I would be willing to import the Aussie version is it will be compatible.

Alaxar said:
http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=2062&c=htc_hd2_us_htc_leo
Lets hope this is true
HTC HD2 US (HTC Leo) Specs
GSM850, GSM900, GSM1800, GSM1900, UMTS850, UMTS1900
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+1 = Lets hope that is true. I would spend the extra money and purchse the unlocked one, which would allow us not to have to be held prisoners while other companies release this phone and att chooses not to because of their affinity with the iphone. My question is.....withe the specs of the bands for this particular phone, which carriers would it provide total support for all bands- both Edge and 3G. ATT? T-Mobile? Verizon? Sprint? Would HTC invest in releasing an unlocked HD2 to one of these carriers, but not eventually release a branded carrier-specific one in the near future? It seems like if they spent the time to create it, it would be released by the carrier it supports at a lower discounted price. Either way- just make one with full Att support, and I'll be picking one up the next day!

Alaxar said:
http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=2062&c=htc_hd2_us_htc_leo
Lets hope this is true
HTC HD2 US (HTC Leo) Specs
GSM850, GSM900, GSM1800, GSM1900, UMTS850, UMTS1900
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Unfortunately, those are "Datasheet State: Preliminary specifications" which means pdadb has know idea till the specs are finalized...

mojohio said:
My question is.....withe the specs of the bands for this particular phone, which carriers would it provide total support for all bands- both Edge and 3G. ATT? T-Mobile? Verizon? Sprint?
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Sprint and Verizon are CDMA networks so the GSM versions of the phone from ATT / Tmobile would not be compatible.

I don't really care if AT&T actually carries the phone officially. I hope that it when it gets released it will just support the AT&T bands. I'm going unbranded if possible! Just want the 3G speed is all!

lantern20 said:
I don't really care if AT&T actually carries the phone officially. I hope that it when it gets released it will just support the AT&T bands. I'm going unbranded if possible! Just want the 3G speed is all!
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Ditto. If you think about it- an ipod Touch costs $450, then you by the HD2 to replace that, as well as serve as your phone. I won't have a problem convincing myself to buy the unbranded US 3G version, as long as it supports all AT&T bands.

If history is a predictor of future behavior, AT&T will be late to the game if it appears at all. Chances are likely that we will only see the 850 mhz 3g band on Telstra (AUS), as it did with the Touch HD with it's hiked up price tag nearing the $1k mark. I hope I'm wrong as I am praying it comes to AT&T as well.

If AT&T is the only carrier (which I doubt because T-Mobile is getting it from all indications) or GSM is only what this phone will do that will suck. I hope CDMA gets it because where I live AT&T and T-Mobile both don't cover our area.

I did send an email to HTC USA about the possibility of an unbranded/unlocked HD2 being produced for the US market and what carriers might be branding the phone for their networks. Not good news at this time but here was their response.
Hello XXXXX,
We thank you for the question about what carriers will have the HD2 in North America and if we are going to create an unlocked version of the HD2 that works on North American 3G networks. We will be more than happy to help you in this situation. Unfortunately we do not have any plans to launch an unlocked version of the HD2 in North America. If this stance changes it would be published as a news release on our American and Canadian websites. As for carriers picking up the device, it is up to them to get the device on their network and sell it. The carrier would be the place to ask in this situation as they usually brand the device as their own and sell it as their own. Anything on the internet that is not on a carriers website or our own can be considered rumor.

HD2 3G Question

So I am looking at getting the HD2 to replace my 3Gs iPhone. I actually just tried a Nexus One and while it is a great device there are some items that need to be addressed, mainly in the fit and finish side, plus full out of box Exchange support.
SO, with that said. I noticed MobileCity has the HD2 for $719 and this feels like a good price for this device. It is however the import version and the guy on the phone said it will NOT work in any USA 3G system.
My question is this, with a ROM update will this device work just fine on the T-Mobile 3G system today?
Thanks!

Current HD2 will not work 3G US
Please note that the hardware of the HD2 is only 1900/2100 bands. For 3G in the USA you will need 1700Mhz for T-Mo or 850Mhz for AT&T.
No softwre will do it, if the radio band is not supported by hardware. Rumor says T-MO will have the US version of HD2 by the end of Q1/2010. my guess is April 2010. Note that if you are on AT&T even unlocking will not work for you even then.
Personally- I 'lost' my 3G by buying the current HD2 model. It worth it, as for SMS/emails the 3G is not needed, and I can have WiFi free hot spots ..

Bummer, but a glimmer of hope there....
So you saying you do not miss the 3G service at all? I would also be in wifi coverage at home and in the office, heck I could even just stay with AT&T for now. Would you be able to compare it to an iPhone 3GS?
I thought that the HD2 radios were the same for both the US and the Europe versions as they are quad-band radios and it was just a software update for the radios.

socialwill said:
I thought that the HD2 radios were the same for both the US and the Europe versions as they are quad-band radios and it was just a software update for the radios.
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There are now 4 distinct locality based versions of the HD2 with different radio bands for UMTS/3G
Quad band refers only to the GSM element, not UMTS

Well slap me and call me Susan, I did not know there were 4 units...which one is the device I should look at then even if it would not work on 3G?

socialwill said:
Well slap me and call me Susan, I did not know there were 4 units...which one is the device I should look at then even if it would not work on 3G?
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There you go Susan- details on PDAdb

Great! Thanks for the link.
Anyone able to say they are happy they went from a 3GS to the HD2? If so, why?

NeilM said:
There you go Susan- details on PDAdb
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No offense, but PDAdb is utter trash. 4 different units of HD2? The Tmo US having 900/2100? Another HD2 US having 850/1900? Tmo US is on a 1700/2100 UMTS so no, that link to Tmo US HD2 is completely wrong. When did the 850/1900 HD2 was even mentioned anywhere on the net? AFAIK, the closeless you'll come to AT&T 3G is the australian version which has 850/2100 UMTS. I'd be careful giving people that link with unsubstantiated information.

Thanks. What device do you have?

So now the question is would it be better to wait for the T-Mobile version or go with a current device?

So I'm assuming that you have T-Mobile? If you do, just wait for the Tmo version to be release around March. That's all you need to know if you want Tmo 3G.
In case you want AT&T 3G, there's no news of 850/1900 band other than the Australian version that i talked about above. The Australian version is coming out at the end of this month.

Damn..now the question is whether to wait for the Australian version or just get it tonight from eBay.

iPhone 3Ha vs. HD2
had both. there is no way the iPhone beats the HD2 in any category but battery. but you can have two batteries...
the iPhone is slower , bloated, had to be jail broken of you consider any customizing, and must have itunes and Apple support. not for me. was a bitter trial.
why EBay? see www.networkingrus.com . got 3 phones from them already.
bigE

BigE said:
had both. there is no way the iPhone beats the HD2 in any category but battery. but you can have two batteries...
the iPhone is slower , bloated, had to be jail broken of you consider any customizing, and must have itunes and Apple support. not for me. was a bitter trial.
why EBay? see www.networkingrus.com . got 3 phones from them already.
bigE
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What makes networkingrus.com so good? Just curious, but I like the site.

lude219 said:
So I'm assuming that you have T-Mobile? If you do, just wait for the Tmo version to be release around March. That's all you need to know if you want Tmo 3G.
In case you want AT&T 3G, there's no news of 850/1900 band other than the Australian version that i talked about above. The Australian version is coming out at the end of this month.
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No, actually I am on AT&T so it would be a break of contract to move to T-Mobile, however it would be a cheaper data plan over all..
What are most people using here? T-Mobile or AT&T for the HD2?

socialwill said:
No, actually I am on AT&T so it would be a break of contract to move to T-Mobile, however it would be a cheaper data plan over all..
What are most people using here? T-Mobile or AT&T for the HD2?
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I'm using AT&T without data plan.

I am on T-Mobile simply for the fact I save $50 dollars a month for the inconvenience of only having the Edge network.

omershahab said:
I'm using AT&T without data plan.
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How are you doing that?

FunMCRider said:
I am on T-Mobile simply for the fact I save $50 dollars a month for the inconvenience of only having the Edge network.
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How is the device on Edge only? Part of me wants to move now, however the other part of me says if I am going to get a device on T-Mobile, why not just wait for the 3G edge version from T-Mobile.

In the US it's going to be Edge only. I'm using it in Canada (Edge only again) but to be honest, haven't really missed much. I don't surf on it that much and I'd rather do it over Wifi anyways (home/office)

Are these guys for real? HD2 with US 3G?

http://www.htcphones.com/product.asp?itemMDL=HTC_TOUCH_HD_2_NAM
Kinda too much-a money. I really want a new phone but am holding out for an X10a or HD2 type phone with US 3G. Still using my sad little Touch Cruise with US 3G but a CPU that is to slow too really use it. Dirty little US service providers.

Ha, might want to rename your thread title before it starts a ruckus.
It's a cheat, since it's not really 'US 3G' but Australian 3G, which happens to be partially compatible.
Most of the Americans/Canadians on this board that wanted a 3G-capable version have purchased it from here:
http://personaldigital.com.au/p380/...NEXTG-850Mhz-AT&T-Roger-&-Telecom-NZ/buy.html
Much better price than those crooks, I assure you It comes out to about $830 with expedited shipping.
Note: 3G-compatible with ATT for the US and Robbers in Canada, NOT Tmo, NOT Wind.
And if you're wondering, for the most part it works perfectly fine. I get H nearly everywhere, and the switch between E/3G is seamless with Radio 2.06.50something

mazzarin said:
Ha, might want to rename your thread title before it starts a ruckus.
It's a cheat, since it's not really 'US 3G' but Australian 3G, which happens to be partially compatible.
Most of the Americans/Canadians on this board that wanted a 3G-capable version have purchased it from here:
http://personaldigital.com.au/p380/...NEXTG-850Mhz-AT&T-Roger-&-Telecom-NZ/buy.html
Much better price than those crooks, I assure you It comes out to about $830 with expedited shipping.
Note: 3G-compatible with ATT for the US and Robbers in Canada, NOT Tmo, NOT Wind.
And if you're wondering, for the most part it works perfectly fine. I get H nearly everywhere, and the switch between E/3G is seamless with Radio 2.06.50something
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Agreed -I purchased mine from PersonalDigital and use it on ATT in Florida. It works wonderful on 850mhz 3G here.

So no 1900MHz US 3g, I did not catch that. Hmm...
"And if you're wondering, for the most part it works perfectly fine"
For the most part? What are the issues? Just that you don't get #G in places that only have 1900MHz 3G?
I thought most places had 1900MHz and only some had 850Mhz. I was on order from eXpansys at $899 but I guess I'll cancel. I hate how big business tries to control everything.
Maybe the Sony X10a will make it out this year.

mazzarin said:
Ha, might want to rename your thread title before it starts a ruckus.
It's a cheat, since it's not really 'US 3G' but Australian 3G, which happens to be partially compatible.
Most of the Americans/Canadians on this board that wanted a 3G-capable version have purchased it from here:
http://personaldigital.com.au/p380/...NEXTG-850Mhz-AT&T-Roger-&-Telecom-NZ/buy.html
Much better price than those crooks, I assure you It comes out to about $830 with expedited shipping.
Note: 3G-compatible with ATT for the US and Robbers in Canada, NOT Tmo, NOT Wind.
And if you're wondering, for the most part it works perfectly fine. I get H nearly everywhere, and the switch between E/3G is seamless with Radio 2.06.50something
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But aren't they putting in the new ROM for you:
"# We software-unlock your phone to support any HTC HD2 ROM
# We then upgrade the ROM to the latest, pure HTC ROM v 1.66
# Most important - our process enables you to do the same for new releases! "
That may account for the higher price

Audiguy3 said:
But aren't they putting in the new ROM for you:
"# We software-unlock your phone to support any HTC HD2 ROM
# We then upgrade the ROM to the latest, pure HTC ROM v 1.66
# Most important - our process enables you to do the same for new releases! "
That may account for the higher price
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Yeah, but how much does it cost, and how long does it take to unlock your phone and upgrade the ROM?

AT&T Galaxy Tab

I am on AT&T for the main reason that I travel frequently to Europe and Asia (Japan, Hong Kong) and it's the carrier who happens to have devices with 3G bands compatible nearly worldwide (Even though I don't like so much the price AT&T is costing me...)
So... really considering now to switch to the Galaxy tab and say good bye to my good old TP2 (heavily overclocked so still with a bit of life in it !)
I have a few questions
1. there are rumors here and there saying the Tab for AT&T wont have the front facing camera (And then some other places where it's listed as a spec of the AT&T tab). Anybody can confirm / infirm this ? (Would be really pissed to pay such a price for the device if it has been castrated)
2. AT&T is the last US carrier not to have announced a launch date for the tab... (Maybe it's willing to be a bit nice to Apple and its recently commercialized iPad, or maybe it's just an old and slow company...). Pure speculation: is there a chance we'll be able to switch the tab bands from T-Mobile like some have successfully done with other Samsung phones from the galaxy family ?
3. Another pure speculation: has Samsung actually disabled the hardware for voice calls on the US versions ? I hope his will be solved by flashing another firmware. Otherwise I'll just end up buying an international version (Which will be much more expensive...)

You can get the unlocked north american version which should be out by next week. It will cost you an arm and a leg but WILL work with the 850/1900 at&t 3g bands. Here are a few sites that have it:
http://www.mobilecityonline.com/wireless/store/productdetail.asp?productid=26929
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http://negrielectronics.com/samsung-p1000-galaxy-tab-3g-850-1900-2100-oem-unlocked.html
Hope this helps.

Raspster said:
You can get the unlocked north american version which should be out by next week. It will cost you an arm and a leg but WILL work with the 850/1900 at&t 3g bands. Here are a few sites that have it:
http://www.mobilecityonline.com/wireless/store/productdetail.asp?productid=26929
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http://negrielectronics.com/samsung-p1000-galaxy-tab-3g-850-1900-2100-oem-unlocked.html
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Thanks. Yes these bands are AT&T ones. Though waiting a few more weeks should allow to get it directly from AT&T at a lower price...
The good news is, if the websites are correct about the specs, the front facing camera is there (And I doubt Samsung will make a different Tab)
Seem to imply the voice call work to (negrielectronics) but it could be a mistake or a trick (works only through skype...) or just simple taht we are talking about an overseas model with the right 3G bands

Alcibiade said:
Thanks. Yes these bands are AT&T ones. Though waiting a few more weeks should allow to get it directly from AT&T at a lower price...
The good news is, if the websites are correct about the specs, the front facing camera is there (And I doubt Samsung will make a different Tab)
Seem to imply the voice call work to (negrielectronics) but it could be a mistake or a trick (works only through skype...) or just simple taht we are talking about an overseas model with the right 3G bands
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What concerns me are the comments that suggest US carriers will somehow restrict their service to GT so only data will work (no voice). So that raises the question for those of us who get the unlocked version - how do we get our Gt on to ATT or others? I guess I'm asking which ATT phone is it close enough to that I can acuire and swap the SIM card?

Alcibiade said:
Thanks. Yes these bands are AT&T ones. Though waiting a few more weeks should allow to get it directly from AT&T at a lower price...
The good news is, if the websites are correct about the specs, the front facing camera is there (And I doubt Samsung will make a different Tab)
Seem to imply the voice call work to (negrielectronics) but it could be a mistake or a trick (works only through skype...) or just simple taht we are talking about an overseas model with the right 3G bands
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Well, from what I hear is the 850/1900 band version will be an unlocked north amaerican version which can work with rogers (Canada) and at&t for the US by just adding your SIM card in. It is unknow weather the at&t network will identify the galaxy tab and change your plan accordingly if that is even how it will work with at&t. I beleive they WILL have a different plan for data for this device as T-Mobile, Sprint and Verizon are following this. Also, the at&t version WILL be a different model in appreance and features as this unlocked one will not. Probablly because at&t WILL remove the front camera and who knows what else (thanks to the iphone). That is why the samsung site has not put the at&t version on their site yet. really do hope it will be treated as a PDA phone thru at&t's network (for the unlocked version)

Raspster said:
You can get the unlocked north american version which should be out by next week. It will cost you an arm and a leg but WILL work with the 850/1900 at&t 3g bands. Here are a few sites that have it:
http://www.mobilecityonline.com/wireless/store/productdetail.asp?productid=26929
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http://negrielectronics.com/samsung-p1000-galaxy-tab-3g-850-1900-2100-oem-unlocked.html
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I just heard today from Negri electronic that this version of the tab will not be available until JANUARY ...so don't bother pre-ordering it.

clubtech said:
I just heard today from Negri electronic that this version of the tab will not be available until JANUARY ...so don't bother pre-ordering it.
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That's funny as they told me last Friday that the warehouse in CA is expecting them on November 10th. Also, I work near the mobile city online store in NYC and stopped in there and they said this week they would have them. hmmm
UPDATE: Just sent a message to my contact @ Nergi. He said they just received the notice that this version of the tab will not be in till early 2011. You were right clubtech... Was hoping you were wrong.. lol That sucks!

Mmh all I have been reading so far sucks

Figured I would fire up this thread and bump it up as Bell is releasing the Galaxy Tab on November 12th. That will be our solution for the 850/1900 3G version I guess..? I sent a message to Nergi to see if they will have this version. I'll keep you posted.

I have my G-Tab now (Euro version with phone and data working great on AT&T in USA) Be glad to answer questions. General comment: I LOVE it! The form factor and wt are just right for me and it has all the features I miss on my iPad. Only criticism is that I find Android a bit less stable than IOS but that might be what Gingerbread or Honeycomb will address.

brucewilsonpa said:
I have my G-Tab now (Euro version with phone and data working great on AT&T in USA) Be glad to answer questions. General comment: I LOVE it! The form factor and wt are just right for me and it has all the features I miss on my iPad. Only criticism is that I find Android a bit less stable than IOS but that might be what Gingerbread or Honeycomb will address.
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Are you getting good 3g coverage? I see your in PA... Close to me. I know the 1900 band does blanket this area to some degree but the 850 band is alot stronger. I think I may wait for a full 3g band with both 850/1900 bands. Seems like the bell version will be the answer to that. Glad to hear you love the device.

I read that the bell version can't make any phone calls fyi .
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Are you getting good 3g coverage? I see your in PA... Close to me. I know the 1900 band does blanket this area to some degree but the 850 band is alot stronger. I think I may wait for a full 3g band with both 850/1900 bands. Seems like the bell version will be the answer to that. Glad to hear you love the device.
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Yes the 3g coverage is fine in the Reading area (better than my iphone, not sure why) I made decision to go for the Eur version when it became apparent the ATT version would be limited to data (no phone) and I couldn't get an answer on whether the "North American" version (with 850 UMTS) would arrive with phone capability OK. I saw a map of ATT 1900 coverage and saw that it takes care of at least 75% of the US, including virtuall all of the East, so I'm comfortable with my decision.

Raspster said:
Figured I would fire up this thread and bump it up as Bell is releasing the Galaxy Tab on November 12th. That will be our solution for the 850/1900 3G version I guess..? I sent a message to Nergi to see if they will have this version. I'll keep you posted.
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Yes that's my hope. It's also probably a sign the AT&T one must be around the corner
I could not find out whether the Bell one would have call functions or not (That would be another great sign or opportunity)

clubtech said:
I read that the bell version can't make any phone calls fyi .
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Is it a confirmed information ?

Thanks for the info

Would Atrix be released in Europe?

Would Atrix be released in Europe?

Yes, it's coming to Orange in the UK.

4G? or 3g? i am from Greece and if it comes with 3g to europe i will buy it for sure!!!!

The Atrix will do 3G in Europe. The 4G on the Atrix is HSPA+ which will probably be USA-only. It does not support LTE.

well it is coming to europe, here in France the first operator to get it will be Orange(date release march).
I doubt it will be a 4g since france will start constructing it LTE network this year, but it will be HSPDA (dunno if it is + since it is still tested by operators such as SFR) but for sure it will be 3G+ or 3.5G

Lol, there's already a site that offers the "Motorola ATRIX European Version" for pre-order. According to them, the retailprice will be $499.99 and they sell it for $399.99. Here's a link to the site: http://www.cellhut.com/Motorola-ATRIX-Unlocked-Quadband-European-Version-GSM-Cell-Phone-30366.html It doesn't look very trustworthy though

Rastor said:
The Atrix will do 3G in Europe. The 4G on the Atrix is HSPA+ which will probably be USA-only. It does not support LTE.
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The device will be the same in the US vs Europe. The "4G" title is really just 3.5G speed. Since it supports speeds of up to 14.4Mbps, similar to the LTE speeds Verizon will have initially, the device is being marketed as 4G.
The data speeds on this thing will be limited only by the network, so if your carrier supports HSPA+ of 14.4Mbps or better this phone will be fast. Don't get confused by "4G" marketing techniques used in the US.

Rastor said:
The Atrix will do 3G in Europe. The 4G on the Atrix is HSPA+ which will probably be USA-only. It does not support LTE.
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The HSPA+ 14.4 Mbps is not USA-only. It will work on any provider that supports it (like all providers in Canada)
Of course it must also be on the frequency bands of the Atrix (850/1900/2100 MHz). I don't know if the Euro version will be any different (900/1900/2100 maybe?)

Ah thanks for the correction, I am not that familiar with the Euro market.

Rastor said:
Yes, it's coming to Orange in the UK.
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I've always been a vodafone man so hopefully vodafone will get it sooner rather than later. Can't wait to get my hands on one!
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You'll be able to buy it sim-free from Play.com, Expansys etc.
Expansys have a product page up now, but no price details as yet.

the fastest way is to buy it when it will be availablein the US
in france, there's an unofficial date : june of this year
wait and see

Huck33 said:
the fastest way is to buy it when it will be availablein the US
in france, there's an unofficial date : june of this year
wait and see
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June!? Wow by that time we will be nearing our next release of Superphones. That is really odd considering Europe usually gets the best devices.
Well, if you don't want to wait you could always go for the similarly speced LG Optimus 2x...

Well the plot thickens!
Dear Steve
Thank you for your email regarding the Motorola Atrix.
I am pleased to learn that you are interested in the Motorola Atrix on Orange.
It is with regret that I am advising you today that after speaking to the relevant departments I can advise that we are not currently looking to release this phone on Orange and for this I do apologise.
If you would like to discuss this query in more detail then please give us a call on 0800 079 2000 and go through to our Sales team, they will happily assist you further.
We are open from 8am till 10pm seven days a week and will be more then happy to assist you further.
I trust the above information is of assistance and I apologise that I can not be of further help.
Kind regards
Kayley
Orange Online Services
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Strange considering they issued that press release and all...
http://newsroom.orange.co.uk/2011/0...otorola-atrix-the-future-of-mobile-computing/

problem is that the atrix is seen as
a weapon against the iphone5, so the providers want to use it "fresh" against the iPhone5 launch in june/july ... so i think we will get it in april/may/june. but hopefully some european providers are smart enough and launch it in march ... because with the docks it is much more than just an iPhone5 competitor ...
... and i also want to see it free ( amazon, ph ... ) as soon as possible ... moto?

I just can't wait to see a sim-free version for sale, this will definately be my next smartphone!

Are there already rumors for a release date in Germany?

Yeah, any news about EU release, preorder?

Looks like June on Tmobile in the UK
https://www.t-mobile.co.uk/shop/coming-soon/
Which, coincidentally, is when my Vodafone contract is up