CDMA HTC Hero Concerns - Hero, G2 Touch General

I am a noob in the Android community, but not to forums of this like. I have searched everywhere for my concerns, but found nothing but post with the same questions and no answers. When I do find the answers, they all seem to revolve around the GSM version and not the CDMA. All the solutions seem to be only for phones rooted (GSM.) PLEASE this IS NOT a revision of the "CDMA Sub-forum Request" thread, but a unified list of what I observe to be issues with the CDMA version of the HTC Hero. My observations are based on experimenting with the Hero and also other threads, which coincide with my observation. I am also aware that 1.6 may fix most of these issues, but 1.6 where you at? As a former WM Mogul/ Touch Pro user I am used to quick fixes with "cab files." From what it seems, I don't think Google likes this type of approach, cause I haven't found any of that sort. So to begin:
1) Bluetooth - Though stereo headset connects, it doesn't connect automatically when I turn it on. I have searched, but is there another way to just turn my Bluetooth and not have to download a toggle or go in to settings to shut the bluetooth on the phone off and on? Is there a tweak to make this connection to go faster? 3 times with me and numerous times with other CDMA Hero users I know have dealt with issues where it won't connect or it would connect, but in 5min.s
2) Notifications - This one is for the users who want a tad bit more privacy. I downloaded ChompSMS (which I recommend,) but why do we have to download an application to simply make it so no Notifications show up on the front of the lock screen. I guess you could say I am a private user who doesn't want to use a lock code. I tried shutting off Notifications, but it completely shuts off notifications. Is there any sort of tweak that will allow notifications to alert ONLY through sound and vibration and show up on the notification bar without the number and message?
3) Movies - I know Google hates AVI files so I downloaded a converter for MP4. I know this is 1 thing that 1.6 is said to fix, but does any one have a fix for this Choppiness or are we doomed till 1.6 comes out?
4) Applications - Alot of Sprint junk (need I say more?)
5) YouTube App - How do we keep it at High Resolution?
6) Who are the major Players in hacking this phone? - For WM I could name many from Mighty Mike to Psyki. Who can I run to for this CDMA version of the HTC Hero? Tried to search around, but found people like myself asking questions as opposed to people giving answers. I guess cause the community isn't as big
7) Scrolling - Is it me or is there some choppiness when scrolling through the phone. Now the phone is smoother than most WM devices available, but I see the stuttering on the scrolling and some of the transitions of the phone.
8) Any alternative to tweak the phone besides rooting the phone
9) Why can't we get Gmail to push on the Email Widget?
May seem like alot of qualms with the phone, but it is only a spec of how I feel about the phone cause I Love it. Also I am aware that maybe 1 or 2 of the questions have been asked. I want new CDMA users to be able to find a unified thread that will answer most of the issues that i found relative to other CDMA users I know. I know alot of users cause I see them all the time. I actually work for Sprint and I am also an official advocate for the phone. I have been steadily doing my research, but the ones explained above I have no answers to. Please do not close my thread because you think it is a repeat thread. It is questions regarding CDMA and CDMA only, cause all the other threads are Ambiguous. I don't know if they are for CDMA or GSM only. Instead of bashing could I get a reply like "1) http://www.example.com," or "1) and 2) this is how you solve the issue" or something of the like. Since I don't know anything about making tweaks, this is my way to find a solution to this vast CDMA problem of not finding solid answers. Oh yeah, please if you leave us new CDMA users a link, don't leave that link that leads us into Google search or XDA search. I already know about that one. Thanx people

For question 2 about the sms notifications in the bar but not displaying a preview of the message, I use handcent vs chompsms. I like the UI better and it incorporates numerous options for notifications, including showing a new message icon in the notification bar without displaying the message preview.
My only real concerns on the phone are A] battery life. I'm doing a lot of testing on this and should have some solid baselines soon. B] Trackball sensitivity. I love the idea of using a trackball for navigating parts of the UI, but it is just too darn slow. One half of a revolution of the ball for example only moves the cursor in a text field one character. This is horrible. It takes a long time to scroll back the beginning of the text. For now I find myself just using the touch interface for most of what I would use the trackball for. There has got to be a fix for this.

I am also a Sprint employee and offical advocate for the CDMA Hero. Looks like we share a lot of common concerns. Coming from WinMo and Blackberry, i was excited about the Andriod platform, but it seems like (maybe because the phone is so new) that there AREN'T any major players yet. I've read several forums here on Xda about people showing interest about rooting but not much about actual attempts. i have tried several methods built for the GSM versions, but all have failed. Myself and another guy were sucessful in getting the phone into bootloader, but I'm hesitant to flash a GSM rom onto the phone even though 1.6 is supposed to have native CDMA support. Anyhow, let me know if you find anyhting and i'll do likewise.

I still haven't figured out how to tether my cdma Hero. I keep getting errorcode 65 and 67 when I try to use the mobile network sharing on the phone.

I believe you will find that Sprint have disable tethering - i.e. it's a network issue, not a phone issue.
Try PDAnet (google it!) as I've heard this gets around this.
Regards,
Dave

tethering sucess
ive managed to tether my sprint hero using both the native 'mobile network sharing' and pdanet.
the pdanet one is pretty easy to use, but to use MNS, you have to install the NDIS driver. You have to install HTC Sync, but this does not install the NDIS driver directly, just gives you access to it which is located in the HTC Sync install folder in the usb drivers sub-folder (can't remember the exact name of it).
You have to go into device manager and find the unknown device that represents the phone and manually update it.
Once installed, it should add a network connection and you should be all set.

dom2114 said:
You have to go into device manager and find the unknown device that represents the phone and manually update it.
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I think I need you to be a little more specific about this: What was the item you updated in your device manager? I checked my driver and the downloaded version of HTC Synch installed the NDIS driver and automatically generated the connection on the My Connections page (Win XP) but I still get the error 67 when I try to connect to the internet.

dom2114 said:
ive managed to tether my sprint hero using both the native 'mobile network sharing' and pdanet.
the pdanet one is pretty easy to use, but to use MNS, you have to install the NDIS driver. You have to install HTC Sync, but this does not install the NDIS driver directly, just gives you access to it which is located in the HTC Sync install folder in the usb drivers sub-folder (can't remember the exact name of it).
You have to go into device manager and find the unknown device that represents the phone and manually update it.
Once installed, it should add a network connection and you should be all set.
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pdanet says fail to open device for file transfer
and MNS still will not work after selecting the ndis driver

yeah, i got that error message every so often...i just disconnected it all, turned MNS off, connected it back up, then reenabled it.
i will try again later on tonight and get back to you

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Questions From ex-Treo650 user

Ok I had gotten board with the lack of wifi and decent web browser on the Treo 650 that I decided to make the move to the 8125. I knew about the speed difference and some of the other issues discussed in these forums because I researched the device for months before making the move. Therefore I wont say much about that. Unfortunately I have a few issues that I can't seem to find answers for in this forum and I was hoping other users out there could help.
1. Is there any way of making the navigation pad useful? I cant access anything on the taskbar and it would be great if I could. I installed magic button so I can close apps and switch back to home when I want. Furthermore there is almost no documentation on how to use the nav pad. All application instructions say tap the icon. It's very convenient to have one handed use. for example i have yet to figure out how to get back to the location bar in Pocket IE so I can enter a url without having to tap the screen.
2. Is it common that some applications just freak out when you switch to landscape mode (scroll bars not working and such)?
3. As mentioned I installed magic button but is there an application that will pop up a list of running tasks so I can switch between them easily with the navigation pad.
4. Backup. I may be very wrong on this but I fear that active sync does not actually backup my entire device like palm does. Could someone clear this up and if I'm correct is there a way for active sync to do this. I have more programs on this device than what is on my add/remove prog screen.
5. Notification reminders. I see a feature to have the led for a period of time but it would be nicer if it could be set to play its sound also. Like the pagers of old.
6. Notification of lost service. This phone never tells me I have no cell service. Last thing I want is battery draining searching or worse assuming I have service and miss all calls.
If anyone could provide some info on the above it would be a great help. i have already found many other programs that make up for the lacking features. Below is a list of what I have installed please make any suggestions you think would be helpful.
1. AnthaVPN - easiest and fastest to install
2. TN520 by mochasoft
3. Pocket Putty SSH client
4. Eyes On Call - Callfilter like program with many features still limited but the developer is very quick in implementing suggestions.
5. Info sharp - same developer as above but this provides sms capabilities that are very impressive. He almost has chat style sms with the way this program works.
6. OMAPclocker - for clocking to 220. I actually see the difference.
7. IM+ - Sametime/AOL instant messenger client.
8. Info apps I have Metro, Ereader, Bdicty, VadeMecum
9. TCPMP
10. Registry Wizard
11. Calc98 - the built in calc app is a joke.
12. Xpressmail - dont care what anyone says this app does what it says it will do. Pushes email to your phone.
Thank You
- Richard

Network selestion popup

For years i have owned WinMO devices and i have always been very happy with them, i have learned many tips & tricks here on this forum but there is one question i haven't found the answer to (yet).
I live close to the border and because of this my phone sometimes connects to te network of my neighbour country, which costs extra money (roaming).
Therefore i set my settings to "manual network connection" and chose my own network provider.
I don't mind having no signal when i drive trough another country, but i certainly dislike the windows network selection popup.
I do not want to select a different provider, i just want it to connect to my own without questions when it is in reach.
This annoying popup window opens regardless of what application my phone is running, it stops the music / movie / app and i have to press the x-button (OK on HD2) to get rid of it. 5 minutes later it will pop up again. This is especially annoying while driving.
I searched a lot on how to disable this, but so far i am not succesful.
On the other hand i am convinced you can disable this popup, maybe trough registry editing or installing a cab or whatever.
So excuses if the question was asked earlier and i may have overlooked it, but is there somebody who knows how to disable this popup??
Thanks in advance!!
Regards,
René

List of functions NOT working on HD2 Froyo+Sense

Hi, I am newbie here but spent a lot of time testing the builds that developers have offered us. Big thanks to all the developers who are truly making HD2 more sexy and top toy in the market even though it has been there for almost a year (which merely happens to other phones, dare I say this?)
Currently using Froyo (mattc, RC1.2) on HD2 with exceller dualboot loader (V1.02), working very stable and smooth. Asides the points which have been listed in their posts, I found the following not functioning properly (or just happened to m2??)
1. Every time it reboots, the bluetooth automatically turns on (reported by other users). The HTC bluetooth toggle works funny when I tap it to turn it off- becomes gray but seems refuses to turn off...
2. Can not use google voice search- "process com.google.android voicesearch has stopped unexpectedly-force close". Found some solution in Android Software Development in the forum (just search "voice search"), but I suppose it is only for nand android thus not the solution for our case?
3. The voice in Google navigation is funny, quite robot-ish, any way to change it?
4. My winxp-64bit cannot recognize it as USB storage. Charging with USB cable to PC is fine, but it does not pop-out for selection of functionality, even I manually change it to USB storage. (solved: using different USB port followed by uninstalling the driver in PC device manager, also I installed JRT Auto Mount software listed in market, which might help as well))
5...
Hope this thread is useful, and list your findings here so that our lovely developer can make HD2 perfect.
oxhaotong said:
3. The voice in Google navigation is funny, quite robot-ish, any way to change it?
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This is totally normal. It is a Text-To-Speech-Technology
Advantage: Everything is spoken - Streetnames, Cities, Autobahn-Numbers etc.
Disadvantage: It sounds like an robot.
no internet .. no my location update.... stock 1.66 greek rom... 2.12.50.2.2 radio....
if you have no internet connection you should check your provider APN and the option you subscribed, I need to change the APN name each time I re install a android rom but it works !!!

The EM App - Joint Developing Effort

Hey guys, I wanted to start a thread where all of the few developers that the DVP has can come together and develop for the DVP in a joint-effort, starting with understanding the EM app.
There have been recent changes to the EM app with the new firmware and Mango, so I was hoping to create neutral ground where we can lay out all of the uses of the EM app and how to exploit them for the greater good.
So first of all the basics:
To get the EM app, dial ##634#
There are 3 basic options when you get to the EM App:
Phone Information
System Information
MMS Settings
There isn't much to be done with the Phone and System information, as they are there for pure informational purposes, but something can be done with the MMS Settings
MMS Settings: Here you can edit your MMS settings, including the APN, username, password, Authentication Type, (For Data) and then your actual MMS Settings such as Name, APN, MMSC, MMS Proxy, MMS Port, Username, Password, and Auth Type
Not much developing can be done with these 3 options, but if you tap the blank space below the options and then use the physical keyboard to type "qwertyuiop" without quotes, you get additional options:
RD Test (Password: *#6336#)
MMI Test
MMI Test (Chinese)
FCQ Test
Protocol
Service Center
OOB (Password)
The RD Test brings up a slew of options:
Audio Loop -tests the audio (earphones required)
Backlight- tests the backlight (turn on and off by touching)
BT (Bluetooth) - Displays BT address, the test mode, TX Power Test, and BQB Certification.
Camera- tests camera by taking a picture
Compass-not sure how this works...
FM Radio- tests the radio (needs earphones plugged in)
Gap- measure 4 blocks and enter the measurements
GPS- Turn off location services and test the GPS
Isolated Storage Speed- test the speed of storage
Keypad- push all of the buttons to get back to main menu
LCD (AMOLED)- Test the LCD
LED- Turn on the screen, keypad, and the camera flashlight
Power Cycle- Test one power cycle (I don't know what it means?"
Power Management- Displays statistics of the battery
Recorder- Records audio to test the microphone
RF Power Forward- Displays the bands of your phone, and WCDMA information
Touch Pad- Brings up a menu to test the touch screen
Sensors-calibrate the Light Sensor, Proximity Sensor, and the Accelerometer
SD Card- the status of your SD card, the size, and the OS disk size
Sim Card-Says if your sim card is inserted
Sim Lock - Displays the Lock Code for your sim card...
Slider- tells you that your slider is open or closed
Vibrator-vibrates your phone
Video Music- tests music and video
Wifi-Brings up the Wifi menu, displays MAC address (other options unknown)
About EM- doesn't work(?) Says the page isn't ready yet.
Man Machine Interface Test (MMI) runs a series of tests on your phone, it runs through all the tests in the RD test.
The Function Quality Check Test (FQC Test): Its in Chinese
Protocol requires a password
Service Center, which allows tethering
OOB, requires password.
So, my goal is to have a mutual discussion ground in which we can exploit this EM app to its fullest, and maybe unlock some hidden features of the phone!
This won't help much, but is it normal to have the MMS Settings app show up in the app list? It's been there since I got it a few days ago, and I haven't even dialed ##634#. Also, in the app list, it's titled "Connection Settings", but it identifies itself as MMS Settings in the app itself and has all of the options you mentioned.
ElijahHouck said:
This won't help much, but is it normal to have the MMS Settings app show up in the app list? It's been there since I got it a few days ago, and I haven't even dialed ##634#. Also, in the app list, it's titled "Connection Settings", but it identifies itself as MMS Settings in the app itself and has all of the options you mentioned.
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Yes, with the new FW 212, its bundled as a seperate App with new purchases.
I dont know if this has been found by anyone yet, but when you press 'protocol' and type in *#6336# it takes you to another menu with three options,
active feature- seems to contain all the options to control the radio frequencies such as wcdma, gsm, bands, save efs log, and reset all..
when i clicked on 'fixed in bands' it seems to give you an option to check which frequencies you would like to use, theres four boxes with four of the regular gsm frequencies, 850,900,1800,1900, but five different wcdma options, I IMT 2000, II PCS 1900, then IV 1700, V 850, and VIII 900..
TMO-stands for tmobile, brings up a longer list of other controls and status screens for the radio and other things that deal with tmobile network..
RILDRV Log Capture- not sure what this one is about but gives you three capture options- capture at function level, capture at info level, and capture at error level, then two buttons that say Capture and unCapture...
curious stuff.. I havent played around with it much yet other than that..
16gb NoDo with 212 firmware
Service Center, which allows tethering
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Which isn't working in Mango Beta, hopefully works in RTM?
Monkyyy said:
Which isn't working in Mango Beta, hopefully works in RTM?
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Some people have been reporting that it works with Beta 2, and the RTM(?)
Also, with regards to this thread, I know that the DVP has no developer base behind it like the other devices, so I thought that looking into Dell's own app for its phones would help, and as a joint effort we might find a way into the DVP itself.
Also, I think some notable DVP-goers (such as notebookgrail and domineus) have already tried this, but what if ths thread could help us, or even work in our favor?
the major difficulty in the em.xap is tantamount
primarily the registry editor does work; but it only creates new keys - no modification of keys. Secondly, the interop capabilities has been rendered useless post nodo. So we have a unique situation as far as hacking the dvp
gauravr88 said:
I dont know if this has been found by anyone yet, but when you press 'protocol' and type in *#6336# it takes you to another menu with three options,
active feature- seems to contain all the options to control the radio frequencies such as wcdma, gsm, bands, save efs log, and reset all..
when i clicked on 'fixed in bands' it seems to give you an option to check which frequencies you would like to use, theres four boxes with four of the regular gsm frequencies, 850,900,1800,1900, but five different wcdma options, I IMT 2000, II PCS 1900, then IV 1700, V 850, and VIII 900..
TMO-stands for tmobile, brings up a longer list of other controls and status screens for the radio and other things that deal with tmobile network..
RILDRV Log Capture- not sure what this one is about but gives you three capture options- capture at function level, capture at info level, and capture at error level, then two buttons that say Capture and unCapture...
curious stuff.. I havent played around with it much yet other than that..
16gb NoDo with 212 firmware
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Its been there since the DVP started.
The bands stuff is basically writing a flag to a file in the Isolated Storage of the EM App. Once you close the app, its state is gone. It doesn't really change bands in the Hardware as we thought to be.
The TMO options is useful if you are into AT Command. I had played with it a lot..But scary stuff. Its basically taking to the Radio Modem.
RILDRV Log Capture - haven't played with it. But looking at the code doesn't give much info.
Curious, why is there a dedicated section to T-Mobile when all of the phones aren't being used with T-Mobile?
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Curious, why is there a dedicated section to T-Mobile when all of the phones aren't being used with T-Mobile?
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Originally DVP was a TMO exclusive. May be they just left it there in the FW. I don't have a ATT DVP. Do they have the same TMO menu?
Is there anyway that we can use the EM app to change certain things such as IMEI (illegal) or find a way to bypass the upsell page when using Web2Go or T-Zones?
Basically, I want to use DVP with my grandfathered plan.
I don't believe that dell gave tmobile and att every single DVP IMEI out. There must be a low level security on each device that halts you from using web2go/tzones for working. I am trying to find that solution.
I am on tmobile USA with a grandfatherd web2go plan.
I originally ordered a t-mo DVP and found out it wont work on web2go/tzones.
I then bought the unlocked ATT DVP and unfortunately, it STILL doesnt work on web2go/tzones- knowing that I will only have edge speeds. I returned that device, BTW.
Any tips guys?
One thing I noticed: If the DVP chokes on loading up a webpage (via Low tower signal, etc), it will actually bring up the real webpage- somehow bypassing the upsell page.
But if you have full bars, the signal catches on, and you are redirected/forced to pay for an internet plan before you can use the grandfathered plan on the DVP.
I don't think this is possible, the IMEI is hardlined into your phone, changing it (if even possible) would probably cause your phone to be unrecognized by the T Mobile network.
The sad truth with this phone is that there will never be developer support for it like there is for HTC or other devices. Without a way to write to the registry or fix the broken interop service there is simply no way. This is something that the engineers (or their outsourced, contracted employees) at Dell would need to fix. And that won't happen because they won't waste time on an old phone, they'll just launch a new one.
Arcarsenal said:
The sad truth with this phone is that there will never be developer support for it like there is for HTC or other devices. Without a way to write to the registry or fix the broken interop service there is simply no way. This is something that the engineers (or their outsourced, contracted employees) at Dell would need to fix. And that won't happen because they won't waste time on an old phone, they'll just launch a new one.
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No need to be pessimistic now, I'm sure if we all came together and explored all of the options (starting this this native app) we could eventually get to the promised land
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No need to be pessimistic now, I'm sure if we all came together and explored all of the options (starting this this native app) we could eventually get to the promised land
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I agree. Lets at lest keep open dialogue. You never know who may get there hands on a DVP...
haha, there's a difference between pessimism and reality. Take a look at the code of the unpacked EM.xap. Everything you'd need for your "native app" would be contained in there, including a way to modify the registry since EM and OurCOM.dll is the software layer that interfaces with the hardware at a limited level. There are people much more versed in the technical details of Windows Phone and the actual code of the EM app that can explain the uphill battle you face much better than I can.
But, any real progress needs to come from Dell themselves first, not the community. Their EM app is literally not completed. And, we know how Dell has responded thus far.
Not trying to be rude or anything, that's just how I see things and the situation with Dell.
edit: in an effort to keep people motivated here is a nice write up (part 1 of 3) about what is possible on a Venue Pro with Nodo: http://dennisdel.com/?p=840
keep in mind that things are now different if you're running Mango.
The line between realism and pessimism is a fine one. However, much in the way that Dell works, little progress fan be made on our side of the equation. But, that doesn't stop us from improving our phones using the tools that we have. Time spent whining about the things we can't do while the HTC guys are having super fun is time wasted.
Sent from my Venue Pro using XDA Windows Phone 7 App
Arcarsenal said:
edit: in an effort to keep people motivated here is a nice write up (part 1 of 3) about what is possible on a Venue Pro with Nodo: http://dennisdel.com/?p=840
keep in mind that things are now different if you're running Mango.
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That's the same code as in the EM app. OurCOM.dll is nothing more than a gateway to the actual Driver DLL's. I did do some decompiling (PE Explorer and IDA tools) of the OurCOM.dll a while back and found that no code actually exists in it. It just invokes the actual Driver dll's which inturn communicates with dll's MS provides with the core OS. Dell themselves, didn't fully bake the EM app. Halfway along they left the development due to MS advising them not to expose the core features (like regedit,etc). I am not that familiar with C, but if someone has strong knowledge, we can try to work out some movement.
Here is some food for thought info to get someone going deep.
There is a file called QEMDriver.dll which is the actual driver file that does the majority of the gateway work in the EM app. Upon inspecting that file in IDA, i found that the core function resides in Coredll.dll (a MS OS file) and ril.dll (MS OS file for modem, calls, etc).
What i also found was(most people knew) if we crack open a way to provision the phone with the proper rights, anything is possible. MS even has article detailing how to provision certain rights,etc OTA. I tried all and failed.
If anyone wants, i can post the files that i referred and links to the provisioning.
I have seen all over the windows phone development forum that some HTC drivers work with the DVP, as far as tethering goes, can we extend this to other functions?

From Tilt 2 (or Windows Mobile 6.5 with Sense) to Quantum

Thread dedicated to the initial challenges when changing from a Tilt 2 to an LG Quantum.
Why is this thread needed?
AT&T insurance for the Tilt 2 is now sending the LG Quantum as a replacement.
The phones are hardly comparable. Windows Phone 7 is vastly different than Windows Mobile 6.5. It is not HTC. Does not have Sense.
Windows Phone 7 has some very annoying characteristics that can be avoided if you set things up with specific care and knowledge originally.
I just got me replacement phone today. I will continue to update this thread with information as I find it. Hopefully it will help others in the process, since there will be more of us as insurance replaces people's phones.
Tips from day 1 of use
#1. Your intial live account can not be changed without a hard reset. Do not use an old hotmail account as you Windows Live ID. Create a new one. I recommend one that you will only use for this purpose. If you need to change it, you must wipe your phone (hard reset) to replace this. Your primary hotmail account cannot be removed and there is no way to not sync the contacts from it.
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2430020
I recommend telling no one this id. Do not use the email for anything. Include some number or something, so it will not be guessed. do not store information in this account, such as emails or contacts, if it can be avoided. Plenty of other options like gmail for this purpose.
#2. Common email domains are easy to setup. Even custom ones are. But it first will try, then let's you configure.
#3. There is a list that has settings. Swipe from right to left to get to the list. Then go to settings. Now you can change things how old of emails to get and how much of it.
#4. Open an email with an attached pdf. Get the viewer. better to do this earlier than later when you need it. By default, the phone has no ability to view a pdf. The pdf viewer lets you do this.
#5. Stop looking for tasks, you won't find them. They don't sync with Exchange.
#6. There is not a built in twitter app. I am downloading moTweets, because I liked that before. I am using the Try option. There is also a free Twitter and a free Foursquare.
Looks like there is some map software. Not sure if it costs money yet.
Not finding Bing or Google Maps.
Bing is built in. just press the button in the lower right. Not sure why that is the only way to launch it though.
#7. Installed Zune with no issues on Windows Home 64 bit. It updates the software on the phone. You do not loose settings during this. Not like a ROM flash. Synced Videos, pictures, and music.
#8 Blue tooth paired easily. Remember most devices are 0000 for the pin.
#9 Found my WiFi and I connected it fine.
#10 Uninstall the bloat that AT&T puts on. It's not much, but you don't want apps that cost a monthly fee when free ones exist.
First impressions after 1 day
Allthough the look and feel is not customizable, it is very consistent.
A few things are not 100% obvious, but once learned is not difficult.
Things do just work.
Very fluid display. Nothing lags.
It's easy to get your stuff onto it. I need to still test copy and paste with Office.
I was thinking that I would be totally unhappy with the phone. But, I think it might just be doable. A non technical person should have no trouble with this phone.
Marketplace has alot of free apps.
Day 2
Not all clock alarm apps are equal.
Big Clock, which I downloaded from the marketplace failed to wake me this morning.
Tested the normal Alarms this morning and it did work with the screen locked.
As always test your alarm before you need it.
Annoyed that there are no snooze options. Just 5 minutes.
Glad Mango is coming soon. Mango gives all the snooze options we used to have.
Back in Windows Mobile 6.5 Digital Outcast gave us the snooze options that we were used to. M$ had taken them away.
For Win Phone 7, I haven't found a short term solution to this yet. Going to have to wait for Mango.
Liking the OS more and more. Marketplace makes the downloading and installing of apps very painless. Wish it was more clear about what has live tiles though.
AccuWeather weather app appears to be live. LG Clock and Weather does not appear to have a live tile, but lets you put in multiple cities.
Wish I could find the HTC tile with weather and clock. HTC Hub is not it.
Post #5
Intended to later have more info.
I like to have 5 posts of each thread I create.
As a potential future WP7 Device owner, I can't think of a better thread to follw than this one, so on behalf of myself and other TP2/Tilt2 owners who may one day move on, thank you very much for creating this thread...a lot of people move on from a deice earlier than the majority but don't leave the majority much of anything to work with in regards to what to move on to or to stay away from, or how to dial in the new device a better way than what the manufacturers have configured, so this thread is indeed very much appreciated...at least by me, and I am sure others as well.
While you will be missed in the Energy thread, I'm glad I have someone familiar to work with the new OS so should the time come, I will be versed as well as can be on what to expect, and do or not do...thank you for all you did for us with the Rhodium, and thank you in advance for all you will do for the WP7 community...you better the community here wherever you go or whichever thread you are posting in ....
Now for my first WP7 noob question...can the live tiles color be changed...and are there alternatives on this device to the live tiles?
GT247 said:
... Now for my first WP7 noob question...can the live tiles color be changed...and are there alternatives on this device to the live tiles?
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Yes. They can be changed, but you get to change them all from 1 color to another.
slide the panels to the left. This now shows a list. Slide down to settings.
In the section titled Theme, tap it and pick a different color.
Other tiles, like music and video, and pictures get the image from what you have played or viewed.
The Me tile gets it's image from Facebook.
And apps can choose to follow the theme or provide their own image.
For the pictures tile, you can manually set it, by: "Open the Picture hub and tap and hold on an empty space and you'll get the option to select the picture you want." source of quote
End of day 2
Realizing that I do not dislike the phone or Windows Phone 7. This is very hard to admit.
With Windows Mobile 6.5 and 6.5.3 and Sense 2.5 with Cookie 2.0. It was fun figuring out all the ways to make the phone do what it should just do. With Windows phone 7. It just does them the way it is supposed to do it. It might not do it how you are used to it doing it, but it does it and it does it well. It can't do everything you're used to it doing, but it does what you actually need it to do and want it to do.
I was expecting to be extremely disappointed in the phone. But I'm not. Things work. You rotate to landscape. They still work. Energy Roms are much prettierand NRGZ28 did a fantastic job at making it do what it should do.
But Windows Phone 7 does a great job.
The things it falls short on will soon be corrected with Mango.
And no M$ did not pay me anything for this post. I am totally surprised that I would feel this way after just 2 days.
I suspected this would be the case....when everything runs faster and smoother and better without having to tweak it to do so, and the initial worry of not being able to tweak to your hearts content to make something you want to work work...when that worry wears off because you dont have to tweak it...well...when any worry wears off and you realize the new phone with the new OS actually really does improve a lot of things.. when everything opens up as your finger is leaving the screen and just starts doing what it's supposed to do...really...how can that be beat?
I'm glad you're giving us positive feedback, as I knew everything would run butter smooth, like yourself, I had reservations about liking the new platform and the new appearance and other changes you're going through with the new device could be overcome by functionality (lol)....
Yep....Mango should come out and lock you in my friend...I imagine after that you'll be glad that usb port died (just please, if you do end up happy about it, don't tell me so...cuz I'm bummed it happened still lol)
I'm curious as you explore...if there will be little things wp7 doesn't have, that the old winmo did...as I have two android devices and the tilt2, I'm finding some things lacking in "the other OS"...little settings (that are sort of kinda actually big deals, to me) are missing...one is...on the tilt2 I can select to show my caller ID to everyone, noone, or just to contacts...can you do that on the Quantum? Have you noticed a need to wonder how ram is controlled? Have you tried opening a zip?.....I'm happy you're on wp7 now (kinda)....I will want to buy a wp7 if someone I trust tells me theye tested it out, put it through it's paces and that it's a solid performer that's user friendly that I can count on to keep me connected to my customers and employees calls and messages and navigates me through my day and gives me awesome browsing and streaming media over the net between my appointments...yep...I'm paying attention to your thread my friend...my usb could go any day too....lol
Thought I found something that I could not do
Thought I could not accept an appointment from Outlook.
In the email, there is a link that takes you to your calender. You accept it from the tentative meeting. I like this better, because you can actually see what your day looks like when accepting it.
Have not found a free twitter program with a live tile.
For weather, the only free one with a live tile update seems to be The Weather Channel. Weather bug does not show anything on the tile. AccuWeather is not updated live.
As plain as the tiles look, they are clear too read. And everything scrolls so fast and smooth. I'll take plain with function for that responsiveness any day.
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I suspected this would be the case....when everything runs faster and smoother and better without having to tweak it to do so, and the initial worry of not being able to tweak to your hearts content to make something you want to work work...when that worry wears off because you dont have to tweak it...well...when any worry wears off and you realize the new phone with the new OS actually really does improve a lot of things.. when everything opens up as your finger is leaving the screen and just starts doing what it's supposed to do...really...how can that be beat?
I'm glad you're giving us positive feedback, as I knew everything would run butter smooth, like yourself, I had reservations about liking the new platform and the new appearance and other changes you're going through with the new device could be overcome by functionality (lol)....
Yep....Mango should come out and lock you in my friend...I imagine after that you'll be glad that usb port died (just please, if you do end up happy about it, don't tell me so...cuz I'm bummed it happened still lol)
I'm curious as you explore...if there will be little things wp7 doesn't have, that the old winmo did...as I have two android devices and the tilt2, I'm finding some things lacking in "the other OS"...little settings (that are sort of kinda actually big deals, to me) are missing...one is...on the tilt2 I can select to show my caller ID to everyone, noone, or just to contacts...can you do that on the Quantum? Have you noticed a need to wonder how ram is controlled? Have you tried opening a zip?.....I'm happy you're on wp7 now (kinda)....I will want to buy a wp7 if someone I trust tells me theye tested it out, put it through it's paces and that it's a solid performer that's user friendly that I can count on to keep me connected to my customers and employees calls and messages and navigates me through my day and gives me awesome browsing and streaming media over the net between my appointments...yep...I'm paying attention to your thread my friend...my usb could go any day too....lol
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I had no idea that you could control the caller id being sent on a per contact basis with the Tilt 2. I imagine it was just inserting *82 or something before dialing. Ultimately the carrier needs to handle the *82 since they do know your number when sending from the tower to the rest of the phone network.
Still early in the testing.
I don't know WP7 settings, on the tilt2, to control caller id setting, I go to start menu>settings>personal>phone>services and then from there I can select "call barring" "caller id" "call forwarding" "call waiting" and "voicemail and text messages"....once an item is highlighted I can click "get settings"...once "get settings" is selected it checks the network settings and then displays the current setting on the network...on the TP2 caller id settings they can be changed on the network from the device...I'm hoping this is possible on WP7
Another question I have is if pinch to zoom works in emails and other apps, not just the browser
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I don't know WP7 settings, on the tilt2, to control caller id setting, I go to start menu>settings>personal>phone>services and then from there I can select "call barring" "caller id" "call forwarding" "call waiting" and "voicemail and text messages"....once an item is highlighted I can click "get settings"...once "get settings" is selected it checks the network settings and then displays the current setting on the network...on the TP2 caller id settings they can be changed on the network from the device...I'm hoping this is possible on WP7
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Another question I have is if pinch to zoom works in emails and other apps, not just the browser
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pinch to zoom works when reading emails, but not when replying or text messaging.
found the setting about sending caller id on the Quantum
Settings - Apps - Phone. You can pick send to everyone, no one, only contacts
when the device is on a call does the lockscreen lock the buttons and touchscreen? ie: is it a waste of time to try to lock the device while on a call? lol
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when the device is on a call does the lockscreen lock the buttons and touchscreen? ie: is it a waste of time to try to lock the device while on a call? lol
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The exchange server that I use for work pushes a policy forcing the phone to lock.
Pressing the power button on the top not only shuts off the screen but it also locks it.
When I answer the phone, it is easy to unlock, if I want. Just slide up, and enter the code. Then I can do anything while on the call.
The proximity sensor disables the touch screen when you have it by your ear, so you don't actidentally hang up.
Something the phone does not have is physical talk and end buttons. But, I honestly have not had a need for them.
Custom Ringtones and Alert Sounds
Although it's real eay for a developer add ringtones to their device or for anyone that has unlocked it. It is annoying that they have locked this down.
Mango is supposed to allow custom ringtones, so just need to wait.
Supposed to be on September 15th.
Wow...ringtones are locked down? Amazing....really. Please don't think I'm knocking them for doing it, I'm sure there's a reason for it, I just find it surprising is all. Have you examined the GPS Capabilities?
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Wow...ringtones are locked down? Amazing....really. Please don't think I'm knocking them for doing it, I'm sure there's a reason for it, I just find it surprising is all. Have you examined the GPS Capabilities?
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GPS works great.
Good news is that the LG Quantum has a built in reg editor. Kind of clunky. Nothing like the good old Total Commander or Dot Fred Reg Editor.
And the location of there is an app the runs on your computer to make a xap files for ringtones.
And you can then sideload the xap onto the device and the ringtone remains.
First you need to unlock the device.
I have not unlocked mine yet. I should be able to unlock with just a few reg ediits. Haven't done it yet though.
On the 15th Mango officially will be available, and that allows custom ringtones without any hacks.
Some Good threads
Use your Windows Phone as a thumb drive.
Registry mods for WP7 - NoDo
Custom Ringtones
mp3 files work just fine, at least with the NoDo 7392 update.
All the built in ringtones seem to be mp3 as well
Lot of good links here

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