So I'm assuming that the "One Click Root" method is not going to work in Donut. Is that correct?
If so, I'll need to downgrade to Cupcake first. Does anyone have a download link? Is there anything I need to do before applying the update.zip to downgrade?
Thanks for your support
OolonColuphid said:
So I'm assuming that the "One Click Root" method is not going to work in Donut. Is that correct?
If so, I'll need to downgrade to Cupcake first. Does anyone have a download link? Is there anything I need to do before applying the update.zip to downgrade?
Thanks for your support
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Go read the many stickies on rooting. You don't downgrade to Cupcake, you downgrade all the way back to RC29.
cigar3tte said:
Go read the many stickies on rooting. You don't downgrade to Cupcake, you downgrade all the way back to RC29.
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Your suggestion doesn't make any sense since there are plenty of devices that shipped with 1.5 (i.e. rogers dream), which happen to be quite incompatible with 1.0 firmware. It is therefore impossible to downgrade to rc29.
If you're *very lucky*, the bootloader you have won't enforce versions and might actually allow downgrading to 1.5, in which case the 1c-root procedure will work.
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Your suggestion doesn't make any sense since there are plenty of devices that shipped with 1.5 (i.e. rogers dream), which happen to be quite incompatible with 1.0 firmware. It is therefore impossible to downgrade to rc29.
If you're *very lucky*, the bootloader you have won't enforce versions and might actually allow downgrading to 1.5, in which case the 1c-root procedure will work.
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My apologies, only thought of the G1.
lbcoder said:
Your suggestion doesn't make any sense since there are plenty of devices that shipped with 1.5 (i.e. rogers dream), which happen to be quite incompatible with 1.0 firmware. It is therefore impossible to downgrade to rc29.
If you're *very lucky*, the bootloader you have won't enforce versions and might actually allow downgrading to 1.5, in which case the 1c-root procedure will work.
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Are you saying that I wouldn't be able to root using the "traditional" method?
OolonColuphid said:
Are you saying that I wouldn't be able to root using the "traditional" method?
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Post your phone info before you ask that.
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Post your phone info before you ask that.
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Sorry. It's a US T-Mobile G1
I would like to know the answer to this too. I was updating to 4.1.999, something went wrong and now im on 1.6 dev phone firmware. Im not sure if i can go back to rc29 or not or if i should even try. Won't going back to RC29 with the new SPL brick my phone?
(Current) Details are
G1 / Dream phone
firmware 1.6
hard SPL
Build: dream_devphone-userdebug 1.6 DRC83 14721 test-keys
Normal recovery console
Thanks
HardSPL won't brick phones, not to the same degree as dangerSPL anyways.
If you have a REAL SPL (i.e. Engineering, or Hard -- can't imagine why anyone would want that though since it doesn't offer any real advantage over Engineering), then there is ABSOLUTELY NO REASON to go flashing nbh's/downgrade to rc29. The reason for this is that these bootloaders do NOT enforce signatures, and DO allow full access to the system. The only reason for going to rc29 is if you have a RECENT VERSION UNHACKED device that is CARRIER BRANDED (and happens to be compatible).
If you have Engineering SPL or similar, then the ONLY thing that nbh's will do is RISK CREATING A BRICK.
Yes, you can brick *any* time you write an NBH, IPL, or SPL (not just the deathspl). Chances are low, but if something goes wrong, its dead.
sprarky said:
I would like to know the answer to this too. I was updating to 4.1.999, something went wrong and now im on 1.6 dev phone firmware. Im not sure if i can go back to rc29 or not or if i should even try. Won't going back to RC29 with the new SPL brick my phone?
(Current) Details are
G1 / Dream phone
firmware 1.6
hard SPL
Build: dream_devphone-userdebug 1.6 DRC83 14721 test-keys
Normal recovery console
Thanks
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lbcoder said:
If you have a REAL SPL (i.e. Engineering, or Hard -- can't imagine why anyone would want that though since it doesn't offer any real advantage over Engineering), then there is ABSOLUTELY NO REASON to go flashing nbh's/downgrade to rc29. The reason for this is that these bootloaders do NOT enforce signatures, and DO allow full access to the system. The only reason for going to rc29 is if you have a RECENT VERSION UNHACKED device that is CARRIER BRANDED (and happens to be compatible).
If you have Engineering SPL or similar, then the ONLY thing that nbh's will do is RISK CREATING A BRICK.
Yes, you can brick *any* time you write an NBH, IPL, or SPL (not just the deathspl). Chances are low, but if something goes wrong, its dead.
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OK cool. Thanks for that. That confirms a few things for me.
Now this might seem a little ignorant but how do i get my root back now? I have done several searches but couldn't really find anything that confirms the exact method for this situation.
If there is no reason to go back to RC29 and do that whole process again then whats the other way of doing it?
As i now have the normal recovery console back any attempt to try and flash CM's just results in the phone telling me i cant su (or don't have root)
Thanks again
Sounds like you have acess to fastboot with your spl you could use fastboot to flash cyanogen's or whichever recovery image you choose, then you would be able flash any rom's you would like through recovery
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Sounds like you have acess to fastboot with your spl you could use fastboot to flash cyanogen's or whichever recovery image you choose, then you would be able flash any rom's you would like through recovery
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Yeah i do! that sounds exactly like what i need to do. You know of a how-to anywhere for doing this?
Cheers
Do you already have fastboot installed on your pc?? If not a simple search of theese forums can yield you instructions on setting up fastboot. Once you have it installed you can open up a terminal and go the directory in which your recovery image is stored and run the command
fastboot flash recovery cm-recovery1.4.img assuming you're using cyanogen's recovery
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Do you already have fastboot installed on your pc?? If not a simple search of theese forums can yield you instructions on setting up fastboot. Once you have it installed you can open up a terminal and go the directory in which your recovery image is stored and run the command
fastboot flash recovery cm-recovery1.4.img assuming you're using cyanogen's recovery
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Hey,
Thanks for your help. Managed to get it all working they way you described after some searching and a few hours. Thanks again dude.
OolonColuphid - Hope i didn't hijack your thread too badly. Does any of the above information help you out at all? I found it fairly easy to flash the recovery from fastboot then flash back to whatever i want via the recovery console.
Cheers,
Sean
Alright, I've been doing some reading up on rooting and it sounds interesting. I tried following the steps on theUnlockr.com but keep running into issues. Just FYI, I recently upgraded to 1.6 Donut from 1.5 thru a phone update so it is NOT stock in my phone. Please let me know what I need to do (in lamens terms) so I can get this going.
G1/Dream
Firmware 1.6 Donut
Build Number: DRC83
Please let me know what I need to do (in lamens terms) so I can get this going.
ephayzee said:
Alright, I've been doing some reading up on rooting and it sounds interesting. I tried following the steps on theUnlockr.com but keep running into issues. Just FYI, I recently upgraded to 1.6 Donut from 1.5 thru a phone update so it is NOT stock in my phone. Please let me know what I need to do (in lamens terms) so I can get this going.
G1/Dream
Firmware 1.6 Donut
Build Number: DRC83
Please let me know what I need to do (in lamens terms) so I can get this going.
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You're phone is still considered stock because it has unmodified software on it, even though you have 1.6 it's through the official OTA update whether installed manually or recieved in due time over your network. You can root your phone, pretty much just follow the steps outlined in this guide found on theese forums
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=442480
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You're phone is still considered stock because it has unmodified software on it, even though you have 1.6 it's through the official OTA update whether installed manually or recieved in due time over your network. You can root your phone, pretty much just follow the steps outlined in this guide found on theese forums
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=442480
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Good looking man, thanks!
Does FlashRec still work on donut, or have they patched that exploit?
OolonColuphid said:
Does FlashRec still work on donut, or have they patched that exploit?
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OMG! can u not read!
Related
I have a quick, simple question that I have tried searching for:
I lost root trying to upgrade to the newest Cyanogen (I think I rebooted when I wasn't supposed to). I am unable to get into fastboot as my computer will not recognize the drivers. I have also lost my recovery image. I have Haykuro's SPL (.005) and wanted to reroot using the DREAIMG RC29 process. My question is: is this possible with the new SPL? Do I have to go back to the HardSPL or can I just downgrade to RC29? I know that I can not change the radio version at this point... I just need to regain root without ADB/Fastboot!
If someone can point me in the right direction or help me out, I would greatly appreciate it.
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I have a quick, simple question that I have tried searching for:
I lost root trying to upgrade to the newest Cyanogen (I think I rebooted when I wasn't supposed to). I am unable to get into fastboot as my computer will not recognize the drivers. I have also lost my recovery image. I have Haykuro's SPL (.005) and wanted to reroot using the DREAIMG RC29 process. My question is: is this possible with the new SPL? Do I have to go back to the HardSPL or can I just downgrade to RC29? I know that I can not change the radio version at this point... I just need to regain root without ADB/Fastboot!
If someone can point me in the right direction or help me out, I would greatly appreciate it.
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Don't flash the RC29.. it contains an old radio and you'll brick. I think the best thing you can do is revert to the original hardspl, then flash RC29 and root again from scratch.
goldenarmZ said:
Don't flash the RC29.. it contains an old radio and you'll brick. I think the best thing you can do is revert to the original hardspl, then flash RC29 and root again from scratch.
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I thought you weren't able to downgrade from Haykuro's SPL. Is this true?
G1gurl said:
I thought you weren't able to downgrade from Haykuro's SPL. Is this true?
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After researching this issue, I am seeing that some people say that you cannot downgrade the SPL...while others say you can.
So, I'm at the point where I just want to unroot and reroot from scratch. Can I safely downgrade my SPL without bricking?
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I thought you weren't able to downgrade from Haykuro's SPL. Is this true?
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You can downgrade the spl but not the radio. The problem exists in the communication between radio image and spl.. Haykuro's SPL is only compatible with that one special radio version, anything else will brick it.. but all the other spl's will work with any radio version.
So yes, in this situation you can (and must) downgrade the spl before you try to go back to RC29.
goldenarmZ said:
You can downgrade the spl but not the radio. The problem exists in the communication between radio image and spl.. Haykuro's SPL is only compatible with that one special radio version, anything else will brick it.. but all the other spl's will work with any radio version.
So yes, in this situation you can (and must) downgrade the spl before you try to go back to RC29.
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Ok, I'm on ADP1 at this point and have the regular Android system recovery. When I try to flash update.zip to downgrade the SPL it says Installation aborted. Is there another way to do this? Thanks for your help...
Balls. I didn't think of that.. :/
If you can't flash from there you really need fastboot.. Come to think of it I'm not even sure how to flash an spl from fastboot...
Err.. I'm mildly stumped. Anyone..? lol
goldenarmZ said:
Balls. I didn't think of that.. :/
If you can't flash from there you really need fastboot.. Come to think of it I'm not even sure how to flash an spl from fastboot...
Err.. I'm mildly stumped. Anyone..? lol
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fastboot flash hboot (path to image)
metasage said:
I have a quick, simple question that I have tried searching for:
I lost root trying to upgrade to the newest Cyanogen (I think I rebooted when I wasn't supposed to). I am unable to get into fastboot as my computer will not recognize the drivers. I have also lost my recovery image. I have Haykuro's SPL (.005) and wanted to reroot using the DREAIMG RC29 process. My question is: is this possible with the new SPL? Do I have to go back to the HardSPL or can I just downgrade to RC29? I know that I can not change the radio version at this point... I just need to regain root without ADB/Fastboot!
If someone can point me in the right direction or help me out, I would greatly appreciate it.
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What problem are you having getting fastboot to work, there is a guide on setting up fastboot stickied in theese forums that would be a good reference point to getting it to work. Flashing the spl can be dangerous and can cause bricking, I would recommend trying to get fastboot up and running then you'd only have to reflash your recovery to either cyan's or Amon Ra's with fastboot, then you would be able to use your update.zip files again.
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ok cool, thanks.
so.. metasage, your only option is to get fastboot working.. I can't think of any other way round this.
Thanks for your help guys. I'm attempting all of this on my work PC where I can do just about anything except install drivers. Need admin privileges for that
I'll try fastboot when I get home. Thanks again for your help.
This page may be of use to you:
"Stuck on ADP1/ION after trying to upgrade"...
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/index.php/RE-recovery-img
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you can flash the rc29 image just fine.....it overwrites the radio AND the spl
search forums...
though getting fastboot to work is best option...wouldnt recommend fastbooting spl or radio though
i agree with bman007. i have had to have 2 g1's replaced and the only way they will accept the phone for replacement is if it is on tmobile stock ROMs. All i do is flash the rc29 image. (also change customer boot screen back to default). no issues found with just flashing. Hope this helps.
Just in case you need it, here it is.
http://www.pcdphones.com/downloads/Eris MR1.zip
This is the Dec 11th update?
Yes but it is the full ruu not just the update if you use this you will loose all of you data and settings.
This may be a work around for those experiencing problems since the update.
this works great for the phone os issues caused by the update. but there are apps in the market that cause your phone to freak out. it's not the eris's fault or the apps fault. when upgrades happen like the way htc did this one it bound to cause some apps to freak out cause of the update. htc has no obligaton to support these apps either that's on the app creator to fix htc is only fixing it's own issues.
this is the reason why htc doe not like quick patches to thier phones. if you look at the history of the dream/G1 this is the first quick patch other than 1.30. because 1.29 allowed root level commands in the contacts area but that was to fix that problem not to fix customer complaints. i just hope htc goes back to the we'll get you a patch when we get you a patch mentality. cause it seems less problematic that way.
just my feelings
binny1007 said:
Yes but it is the full ruu not just the update if you use this you will loose all of you data and settings.
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Thanks! I did the manual update using RUU as soon as it came out and actually have been pretty lucky...None of the freezing up etc issues that people are having.
Anyone have an updated link?
Hungry Man said:
Anyone have an updated link?
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I've got the EXE if you have something/somewhere I can upload it to?
You could use megaupload? Or try uploading it to this site aka xda?
If I were to just install the 2.1 leak wouldn't that do basically the same thing? Or is this easier?
The RUU in this thread was for MR1, which is still Android 1.5. I think you're looking for the newer RUU: http://shipped-roms.com/shipped/Des...WWE_2.36.605.1_release_signed_with_driver.exe
Ok so if I download that what do I do with it to unroot?
Hungry Man said:
Ok so if I download that what do I do with it to unroot?
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Attach your phone to your computer with the USB cable, and run the RUU program in Windows. It will wipe all data from your phone and return it to the stock 2.1 software, complete with the 1.49 S-ON bootloader, the default recovery image, and no root.
If you want to re-root from there, you'll have to use one of the new root methods, since your phone will be identical to the phones that Verizon is currently shipping out (with Android 2.1), not the original Android 1.5 version of the software.
Awesome, thanks a ton.
i am trying to use this to unroot my phone so i can send in for a replacement and it goes through all the checks and verifications. it rebbots to the bootloader then while updating signiture i get error 140 bootloader version error saying the rom update utility cannot update your android phone please get the correct rom update utility and try again?? if this doesnt work is there another easy way to unroot?
yamaha83 said:
i am trying to use this to unroot my phone so i can send in for a replacement and it goes through all the checks and verifications. it rebbots to the bootloader then while updating signiture i get error 140 bootloader version error saying the rom update utility cannot update your android phone please get the correct rom update utility and try again?? if this doesnt work is there another easy way to unroot?
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same here, ruu fails
sleepyastronaut said:
same here, ruu fails
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If you get a version error, you need to first run jcase's "Flash any RUU" hack.**
Note that (strictly speaking) jcase should have entitled his post "Flash any PB00IMG.zip ROM" because of another small complication: some ROMs do not have a compatible version of the "reboot" command (the RUU utility first uses the reboot command to put the phone into oem-78/RUU mode). If you insist on using the RUU utility, you can overcome this minor problem by first flashing a compatible ROM, such as PlainJane.
But, it is just as easy to flash the Leak-V3 PB00IMG.zip ROM, which produces the identical result as the "Official" RUU.
Note also that if you have used the RUU utility, them you already have USB drivers installed on your PC, and so getting adb running on the PC does not require setting up the full-blown SDK (you don't need Eclipse set up) : just download the SDK, unzip it, and you are ready to rumble.
To reiterate: if you get a version error, you need to run jcase's "Flash any RUU" hack first; after that, you can either run the HBOOT+Leak-V3 PB00IMG.zip install, or the RUU. The PB00IMG.zip method has no dependencies, and is somewhat easier.
bftb0
** Note there is a minor mistake in the instructions given in the OP of the "Flash any RUU" thread; be sure to read the first dozen posts or so - the correction is given.
thenestor said:
The RUU in this thread was for MR1, which is still Android 1.5. I think you're looking for the newer RUU: http://shipped-roms.com/shipped/Des...WWE_2.36.605.1_release_signed_with_driver.exe
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This is the exe that I used to restore my Eris from Kaos Froyo to Stock 2.1. All I did was run the exe file and follow simple prompts. It took about 10-15 mins and the Eris was ready to return to VZW.
Very nice work, Thank you Devs!!!
Does flashing RUU replace the kernel and/or radio? Just wondering
jsuh said:
Does flashing RUU replace the kernel and/or radio? Just wondering
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I'm pretty sure it replaces both. That's how people discover new kernel and radio versions.
Sent from my xtrSENSE Eris using XDA App
Any idea what I'm doing wrong here?
Windows 7 SP1 x64
Its only going to be a matter of time before people will need to send phones back under warranty for whatever reasons so a guide for unrooting will be needed.
Any takers?
G2 already has one, but obviously we will need different rom/hboot etc to go back to our stock.
Not just unrooting, but going completely back to stock, i.e. S-ON and stock ROM.
As you say, we should be able to base it on this - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=835971
Although we have several different stock ROMs, e.g. European, Asian, Vodafone UK, etc.
this is already covered in the FAQ (easy tutorial @ dev forum)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=9143411&postcount=2
gtrab said:
this is already covered in the FAQ (easy tutorial @ dev forum)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=9143411&postcount=2
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That just says to use Visionary to turn off rooting. Or did I miss something ?
As I said, I think we need to cover how to return a phone completely to stock, and I don't think it includes all that you'd really need to do, or if you didn't use Visionary in the first place, e.g. the kind of stuff in the G2 post that I linked.
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That just says to use Visionary to turn off rooting. Or did I miss something ?
As I said, I think we need to cover how to return a phone completely to stock, and I don't think it includes all that you'd really need to do, or if you didn't use Visionary in the first place, e.g. the kind of stuff in the G2 post that I linked.
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It does say to flash an RUU to S-ON which in the past I would have said would work, but seeing how the G2 forums are not suggesting that its that simple my guess would be that its not that simple.
I had to flash the PC10img thing taken from the stock ROM to restore root and s-on. But no idea how to extract that PC10img thing, not that I have looked into it either.
That info was from one of the guides in the dev section I'm sure.
Sent from my HTC Vision using XDA App
What might work now will probably not work once an OTA update comes out for the DZ though, as per the problem on the G2 they've had which has led to quite a few semi-bricks (possibly full bricks in some cases ?).
Done some research, it would seem that flashing an RUU would work fine for those of us already rooted, if an OTA were to come out those who rooted after the OTA would have issues unless an RUU for the same OTA was released as well. (this is basically because the RUU's currently available will be older than the software the phone is on so the RUU would fail leaving you with a semi-bricked phone as described above, basically it would flash stock hboot and recovery then fail to flash the /system so you would be left with no root or recovery and no rom.
Flashing the ruu would give rise to accepting the OTA too, if you really wanted to do that, but it might block root.
you just need the RUU for your correct original phone version
OR use a gold card
eg. I have debranded mine from bell NAM 1.34.666.5 to euro generic 1.34.405.5
To go back to stock, I can:
1.- grab the bell 1.34.666.1 RUU (its slightly previous, but is the correct original version for my phone)
OR
2.- run the euro generic 1.34.405.5 with a golcard inserted
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Isn't that dangerous though once we get any OTAs, and could lead to this ?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=838484
Or am I missing something ?
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Isn't that dangerous though once we get any OTAs, and could lead to this ?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=838484
Or am I missing something ?
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Yes thats what I was getting at in my post above, any RUU you flash needs to be of the same or newer version of what your previously flashing. You cannot GoldCard to flash an RUU to S-ON or you get left with the semi-brick where you have stock recovery and hboot, but no rom installed.
So if an OTA comes out, you can't accept it, s-off then use an older RUU to s-on again. You would have to flash an RUU of that OTA version (if one is released).
Basically its best to not accept any OTA if you can avoid it and just wait for a custom rom of the same, that way we can always use the older RUU's to s-on if we need it.
I successfully downgraded my rooted/S-OFF'd phone to an earlier ROM last night. I simply followed this method - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=832503
I'm of the firm belief that this is the onyl way to do it if you are at S-OFF. If you have S-OFF, then flashing an older RUU will probably brick your phone.
Well yesterday I perm root and s-off my european Desire Z with World/Euro generic 1.34.405.5. Somehow everything went bad after flashing recovery mode, so I decided to unroot it and bring it back to original settings.
I found there are 2 methods, one is to run the original ruu, and the other one was to copy the exact World/Euro generic 1.34.405.5 PC10img.zip to the root of my sd card.
Then entered to bootloader, and the phone recognize the archive, I simply apply it, and now I am back again to original stock.
However now I tried again and I am happily root, and S-Off following the amazing gtrab guide (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=835777)
buzmay said:
I found there are 2 methods, one is to run the original ruu, and the other one was to copy the exact World/Euro generic 1.34.405.5 PC10img.zip to the root of my sd card.
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That's the thing I keep saying though, flashing the original RUU worked for you because you weren't trying to downgrade the ROM, it was the same version that you already had on (just S-OFF etc). If you had a later version on your phone (e.g. via an OTA update) and were trying to flash to an earlier one, you would have bricked it trying the straight RUU method.
So what should be done is download and install an RUU - say 1.234.987, so you're on 1.234.987 - then root / S-OFF / custom ROM the phone. If anything goes wrong, reinstall the 1.234.987 RUU.
By the way - that's a fake RUU
DanWilson said:
So what should be done is download and install an RUU - say 1.234.987, so you're on 1.234.987 - then root / S-OFF / custom ROM the phone. If anything goes wrong, reinstall the 1.234.987 RUU.
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During that process, if the stock HBOOT/recovery that is installed by that RUU decides that what you're trying to flash is "older" than your custom ROM, you're screwed though. That's why the "debranding" guide has extra steps in it, i.e. gold card and editing the misc partition.
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During that process, if the stock HBOOT/recovery that is installed by that RUU decides that what you're trying to flash is "older" than your custom ROM, you're screwed though. That's why the "debranding" guide has extra steps in it, i.e. gold card and editing the misc partition.
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I hate HTC.
Love the phones, love the Sense, hate the security.
Why not give us a command like the N1? WHY!?
So you should backup the system partition before S-OFF and so on? Like so a dd? (Following on from previous post)
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So you should backup the system partition before S-OFF and so on? Like so a dd? (Following on from previous post)
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The system partition isn't changed in S-OFF, that's the boot partition (just allows writing to the system partition).
The gold card and editing of the misc partition should work fine, as per this thread - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=832503
It worked for me last night to flash to an older stock ROM (which also gave me S-ON again, removing my S-OFF).
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The system partition isn't changed in S-OFF, that's the boot partition (just allows writing to the system partition).
The gold card and editing of the misc partition should work fine, as per this thread - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=832503
It worked for me last night to flash to an older stock ROM (which also gave me S-ON again, removing my S-OFF).
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Cool. Confused. I believe you though.
But you are saying just to make a gold card, and edit the misc partition?
Nice
DanWilson said:
Cool. Confused. I believe you though.
But you are saying just to make a gold card, and edit the misc partition?
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Following that guide that I linked worked for me. Yes, I turned my SD card into a gold card and edited the misc partition. Then it is fooled into thinking you're restoring a ROM of the same version that it already is running, so it lets you do it.
Actually, I do wonder whether both steps are necessary (i.e. gold card *and* editing misc), because I thought the whole point of the gold card was that it avoided those checks, so perhaps you can do one or the other ? I am only thinking out loud here, and may well be missing something, so I don't suggest trying it other than as in that guide.
It's basically all in the title...
As it is, the wildfire is nor "really" rooted, as there is no way to write to the \system, thus making it impossible to do certain things (ie installing custom hosts file).
If Sunaabh does not do it, is there any way to obtain that WITHOUT using a shell? I've been searching, but I found at least 4 different procedures which claimed to work, but ultimately didn't.
Thanks!
Roms don't make phones get s-off, you need to wait for alpharev or get a xtc clip
kevin2516 said:
Roms don't make phones get s-off, you need to wait for alpharev our get a xtc clip
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And you can do everything even with s-on using adb and recovery...
E.g. just push the new hosts file using adb or use a flashable zip
so its not impossible.
kevin2516 said:
And you can do everything even with s-on using adb and recovery...
E.g. just push the new hosts file using adb or use a flashable zip
so its not impossible.
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Is not working if the system is read only, also zipfiles must be signed, and no1 have the Signature, of so you also can install recovery rom.
Thanks to everyone but... this just adds to my confusion. So is it possible or not to flash zip files with s-on?. I would not want to use ADB unless it's absolutely necessary...
Veon11 said:
Thanks to everyone but... this just adds to my confusion. So is it possible or not to flash zip files with s-on?. I would not want to use ADB unless it's absolutely necessary...
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Of course it is possible to flash ZIP files using S-ON. Majority of the people here are on S-ON systems and still use Custom ROM's, Flashable ZIPs for additional functionality, kernels, radios and stuff.
Oh, and just as an FYI, I would advice you to get over your paranoia of ADB and try it out. It's an extremely useful component.
OK, thanks a lot! Guess I'll have to give ADB a try.
So, i can flash a rom with ADB, with s-on? Do i need temp root? What is the method exactly? Thy
Gurdjieff said:
So, i can flash a rom with ADB, with s-on? Do i need temp root? What is the method exactly? Thy
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Refer this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=824396
3xeno said:
Refer this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=824396
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Ok, sorry, this is not so clear for me yet.
If i want to flash a custom rom i need a custom recovery?
But adb show device offline in fastboot (due the new hboot?) so i stuck here.
I found this for Aria, but maybe
http://thetechjournal.com/electronics/mobile/how-to-installing-custom-rom-on-unrooted-htc-aria.xhtml
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Ok, sorry, this is not so clear for me yet.
If i want to flash a custom rom i need a custom recovery?
But adb show device offline in fastboot (due the new hboot?) so i stuck here.
I found this for Aria, but maybe
http://thetechjournal.com/electronics/mobile/how-to-installing-custom-rom-on-unrooted-htc-aria.xhtml
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Are you on official Froyo release (Or, in another way, HBOOT 1.01)? If that's the case, and, it is on S-ON, then, it is not possible to root.
As for the Aria process, its a bit vague I think. Basically, what he is doing there is rooting, but, I don't think that process works on the Wildfire's new Hboot.
If you are on the older Hboot, just follow the guide step by step I linked above. Its foolproof.
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Are you on official Froyo release (Or, in another way, HBOOT 1.01)? If that's the case, and, it is on S-ON, then, it is not possible to root.
As for the Aria process, its a bit vague I think. Basically, what he is doing there is rooting, but, I don't think that process works on the Wildfire's new Hboot.
If you are on the older Hboot, just follow the guide step by step I linked above. Its foolproof.
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Ok then i misunderstood you, i thought you talked about that we could flash a rom without root on official 2.2 too.
Anyway thank you for the help
Gurdjieff said:
Ok then i misunderstood you, i thought you talked about that we could flash a rom without root on official 2.2 too.
Anyway thank you for the help
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Yes, that's what I thought. Since this topic starts with S-OFF, that is why I said you can install Custom ROMs on official 2.2.1. Not on S-ON systems.
Anyway, glad its all clear now.
PermROOT said:
Hello Phateless do you remember me? lol I am always on diff name so ya.
But yes PD15IMG.zip is not the golden solution to everything. It all depends on how you originally rooted your MT4G as VISIONary+ (TempROOT) and root.sh (PermROOT). In that case your S=OFF security off flag is dependent on the eng hboot which was pushed to /dev/block/mmcblk0p18 during PermROOT.
Now since its not true security off once you have newer radio. You try to run PD15IMG.zip (Sense 2.2.1 Rom/Radio 26.03.02.26_M) after the first update which is stock hboot you would be locked due to it changing S=ON thus on next step it will fail due to the image being older than originally on which is currently flashed which would be the radio. In this case your in a point where you shouldn't be as you can be locked out and no way to reroot. which I am working on finding. This also goes for gfree radio s=off.
If you do want to go back download PD15IMG.zip (stock radio 26.03.02.26_M) and then flash it once that is done then you can revert back to stock rom/radio using standard PD15IMG.zip (Sense 2.2.1 Rom/Radio 26.03.02.26_M). Keep in mind unless the new PD15IMG.zip is out you can't revert it back if your locked out due to source being outdated than current image.
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Found this post here in THE Bible. Trying to understand exactly what it means.
What is he saying here?
Can someone put this into noob terms please?
THANK!!!
I am not sure how to explain it furthermore as when I posted that it was clear to everyone, but ill try to simplify.
The original stock rom that came with our device was 2.2.1S and later we had GB2.3.X port and we mostly switched. Then came the radio rom which I hope I don't need to explain what the image does. So the standard stock radio that came with our device was 26.03.02.26_M. So later on as Panache came out we had leak to other radios which user could flash, thus changing it from stock radio to leaked radio. I hope it make sense up to there.
Now keep in mind we have 2 type of root meth as one is via TempROOT/PermROOT as I explained before via VISIONary+ which just push the eng_hboot and gives the illusion of S=OFF but the true security is not off as that is only done if you do the other rooting meth which is PermaROOT which disables the radio security completely.
Now the problem few users faced was when they flashed the leaked radio and they wanted to revert back to stock rom/radio via PD15IMG.zip for our MT4G (IDD15000). The installation would fail only for folks who had root via PermROOT as they never had true S=OFF thus once the eng_hboot is replaced with stock bootloader the security is disabled thus user can't complete the second part of the process which would be flashing the radio. So only solution was that they first revert back to stock radio or wait for newer radio because the source of the image inside PD15IMG.zip was older than the radio.img that was already flashed inside user's MT4G.
I hope it explains if not well IDK how to explain any better man :O
So if I'm understanding this all correctly, how I find out if this will affect me?
Where and what information should I provide you in order to find out if this will happen to me as well.
I'm getting ready to send my phone in for an exchange and was looking to flash PD15IMG.zip before doing this when I came across this post.
I rooted my phone with Visionary R14 and Terminal Emulator.
What other info do you need? Please let me know. Thank you.
At this point it wont affect you as thats obsolete due to TMoUS releasing newer stock rom/radio for our MT4G few months ago as Panache radio leak is older than the current stock rom/radio. As its GB2.3.4S which comes with the newest radio which is newer than any radio you flash. So the source of the PD15IMG.zip if you have the newest one then it will always be newer or equal to the radio.img already in device and it means in simple term it will flash the 2nd part. I hope it make sense as it should not affect anyone now. Even if it does all they have to do is run the current new PD15IMG.zip and it will fix the issue which user faced few months back.
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So if I'm understanding this all correctly, how I find out if this will affect me?
Where and what information should I provide you in order to find out if this will happen to me as well.
I'm getting ready to send my phone in for an exchange and was looking to flash PD15IMG.zip before doing this when I came across this post.
I rooted my phone with Visionary R14 and Terminal Emulator.
What other info do you need? Please let me know. Thank you.
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If this is all about going back for an exchange, i recently did just this. Please see my post on the topic: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1241740
If all you did was the temproot/permaroot method via visionary+, and not the gfree method (gfree is actual s=off), then I believe some of the steps may be different. Specifically, you may be able to skip the whole bit about turning s=on again.
So which is it?
So rooted via Visionary R14 and being on Virtuous Unity (newest update)
I should be able to flash PD15IMG.zip from this link here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=863899
and have no problems yeah?
Sorry for all the questions. But yeah I'm only half to 75% following what you're saying.
I'm not advanced yet. =(
Thanks for the help again though.
Keep in mind PD15IMG.zip is the default system file for our device which is checked on the bootloader as our device ID is PD15000 thus getting the PD15IMG name. So PD15IMG.zip can be multi files as we have 2 of them 1 is 2.2.1 and newest one is 2.3.4 just look in the dev section you will find the newest PD15IMG.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1059347
NEW-PD15IMG: PD15IMG_Glacier_Gingerbread_S_TMOUS_2.19.531.1_Radio_12.58.60.25_26.11.04.03_M_release_200756_signed
nicholasb said:
If this is all about going back for an exchange, i recently did just this. Please see my post on the topic: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1241740
If all you did was the temproot/permaroot method via visionary+, and not the gfree method (gfree is actual s=off), then I believe some of the steps may be different. Specifically, you may be able to skip the whole bit about turning s=on again.
So which is it?
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I did not use the gfree method.
AggNA said:
Keep in mind PD15IMG.zip is the default system file for our device which is checked on the bootloader as our device ID is PD15000 thus getting the PD15IMG name. So PD15IMG.zip can be multi files as we have 2 of them 1 is 2.2.1 and newest one is 2.3.4 just look in the dev section you will find the newest PD15IMG.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1059347
NEW-PD15IMG: PD15IMG_Glacier_Gingerbread_S_TMOUS_2.19.531.1_Radio_12.58.60.25_26.11.04.03_M_release_200756_signed
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Thanks for all the help bro. I really really appreciate it.
Love all the help that the XDA community provides.
this guy definitely knows what he's talking about, provided help for me in the past