Can't kill Peep or Stocks on Hero? - Hero, G2 Touch General

I use Advanced Task Manager to 'turn off' Peep and Stocks, but they keep coming back, and I know they kill the battery. I've tried to remove them from my phone - I hate Twitter and am too poor to play the markets - but it isn't allowed, it seems. Any suggestions?
Thank you, in advance.

Peep set to manual update and not a scheduled one will not do anything to your battery. Same goes for Stocks.
Just make sure you open each app and set Manual updates.
I did this ages ago with v1 of the firmware. My battery usage decreased and my slow downs went away.
Don't worry about it.

IF you've rooted your Hero, you can remove peep, stocks and other 'un-removable' apps by following Paul's posting on Modaco.com:
http://android.modaco.com/content/htc-hero-hero-modaco-com/292018/21-09-2-3-the-modaco-custom-rom-is-here-core-core-chinese-enhanced/
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joemax said:
Peep set to manual update and not a scheduled one will not do anything to your battery. Same goes for Stocks.
Just make sure you open each app and set Manual updates.
I did this ages ago with v1 of the firmware. My battery usage decreased and my slow downs went away.
Don't worry about it.
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Thank you! I have done this with Stocks (the default seems to be to auto update every hour, for some reason) but Peep doesn't seem editable unless you log into it, and I don't have a Twitter account. Might it check for updates if I have never logged on, and is there a way of setting it for manual updates without an account?
Thanks again for your reply.

Well, even though I am using Advanced Task Manager to close down both Peep and Stocks, they keep coming back! They're like Zombie Apps!!
Any idea as to how to make them properly go away? I'm getting fed up with opening ATM every few hours to shut 'em down...
Also, 'Auto Update' keep unchecking itself in Google Data Sync. Is this usual?
Many thanks

if you don't use them, just remove them from your phone.
Read my post above...

bunt83 said:
if you don't use them, just remove them from your phone.
Read my post above...
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I'm afraid I haven't rooted the phone...

TBH, as long as Stocks is set to never update and you are not logged into Twitter via the Social Networks section of Settings, why worry ?

joemax said:
TBH, as long as Stocks is set to never update and you are not logged into Twitter via the Social Networks section of Settings, why worry ?
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Because peep with default settings is far from idle. I've not managed to get the battery to last longer than 6-8 hours with the phone idle and wifi&gps off. Once peep is fed with account credentials you can turn refresh and notifications off, but that's impossible without an account. The clear message to HTC is to either fix peep so that it remains fully idle when it doesn't have the information it needs to do its job, or isolate it as a separate package that can be removed separately without rooting the phone.

My battery will last more than a day and O am not a light user...
Why not sign up for a Twitter account, log in to Peep, kill the auto update (set to manual), log out of Peep (in Settings) and then ignore your Twitter account.
Its free.
See if that helps before the pain of rooting and removing apps.
Worth a try.

joemax said:
Why not sign up for a Twitter account, log in to Peep, kill the auto update (set to manual), log out of Peep (in Settings) and then ignore your Twitter account.
Its free.
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I hope HTC's developers not not share your attitude.
It's not about the cost. It's about the failure to meet one of the most basic requirements in programming. An application which hasn't been configured for use should not use any system resources other than possibly storage.
Why on earth should someone with no interest whatsoever in twitter have to sign up for an account just to be able to turn the damn thing off?

Woah... I am just trying to help out here and suggest ways of sorting your 'issues'

I used my girlfriend's twitter address to log on and then turned automatic updates off, before logging out. And... still it returns!

It will return point is is that it won't use resources.

Just don't worry about it. Seriously, all this fretting over background processes and task killers, no need to.

Kinda hard not to worry about it when it's using 9mb of precious RAM. :/
Even after turning manual updates on, still can't kill it.

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why is it functionless

i cant believe thatit doesn't auto update an add a little notice anywhere is it just me or is this £495 phone not pulling its weight, starting to think about selling this and getting an iPhone or going back to my 8900 have I set everything up correctly? why use is it if it doesn't notify you of anything
sigh......
It might just be me but that seems to be quite a vague statement...what doesn't it update that's upsetting you? I found this:
http://www.montecristoff.com/hd2tweak.htm
earlier today and its got a nice feature which will automatically update any apps that you've installed...how cool is that? (I do hate calling progs "apps"...its so apple dont you think?)
Wel on some hand I can agree .. But did you know you can tusrm notifications on and off, quite easy actually.
In sence env go to SETTINGS > Display Notifications sounds.
And there you should find it.
And sorry for the name of the menu. I got the dutch version over here.
And please explain more about the auto update. What exactly is it that you want to "autoupdate"
regards
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i cant believe thatit doesn't auto update an add a little notice anywhere is it just me or is this £495 phone not pulling its weight, starting to think about selling this and getting an iPhone or going back to my 8900 have I set everything up correctly? why use is it if it doesn't notify you of anything
sigh......
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why update automatically and update everything,,, instead of what you want to update
Martyn,
Can you come back with a more concise statement of what your problems are please? If its what I think it is there are tons of threads on here about that AND solutions which you can easily search for.
However let's start at the beginning and get our heads round what your problems are.
Cheers
WB
i just want things like facebook and twitter to update automaticly without me having to get an email first...
on my bb 8900 i would have an icon at the top stating facebook 1,2,3 etc
this phone seems to only notify me of sms,email? no app like facebook or twitter interaction at all??? and my facebook is ment to update every 2 hours, (cant seem to change this )
Your signature bemoans the price the HD2 cost you - but you dislike it because it's default settings limit data connection use, persumably to cut costs?
To your issue, I don't know what facebook app was running on your blackberry but if it's that important to you why not add an rss feed with your facebook updates or open a gmail account that's mailed whenever something happens on facebook and setting it as an exchange "push mail" account?
And that's before the obvious suggestion of googling for an appropriate application O_O
I hope I'm not too reproachful. My point is that Windows Mobile is more like a desktop os than it is like whatever blackberry uses or osX mobile. Solving your "issues" shouldn't take more than half an hour's browsing in the HD2 Themes and Applications forum.
you don't have the twitter tab? and the intergrated facebook? not that its working in all aspects but still I like it..! The standalone facebook application works. The phone also notifies me for twitter and facebook messages..
go to settings in htc sense then choose the data option (says set up sync schdules or similar under the heading) then click on facebook or twitter and set up sync settings to automatic.
they will both now update at the intervals you set.
twitter is available in sense via it's tab and facebook inegrates itself with your contacts in the people tab in sense by pairing your contacts on your device with the contacts of matching names from your facebook. names have to be the same to auto integrate otherwise you have to manually select which contacts to add to which facebook friend.
hope this helps a bit
All the above, plus make sure you don't use any form of 'Auto-disconnect' program to turn your data connection off, or all 'pushed' updates like FB and Twitter will fail till the next time a polled update occurs.
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you don't have the twitter tab? and the intergrated facebook? not that its working in all aspects but still I like it..! The standalone facebook application works. The phone also notifies me for twitter and facebook messages..
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how does it notify you as.mine doesn't !
Johnston411 said:
go to settings in htc sense then choose the data option (says set up sync schdules or similar under the heading) then click on facebook or twitter and set up sync settings to automatic.
they will both now update at the intervals you set.
twitter is available in sense via it's tab and facebook inegrates itself with your contacts in the people tab in sense by pairing your contacts on your device with the contacts of matching names from your facebook. names have to be the same to auto integrate otherwise you have to manually select which contacts to add to which facebook friend.
hope this helps a bit
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I got Twitter setup for every 30 min but Facebook is at 2 hours an I'm unable to change?
NeilM said:
All the above, plus make sure you don't use any form of 'Auto-disconnect' program to turn your data connection off, or all 'pushed' updates like FB and Twitter will fail till the next time a polled update occurs.
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I got bsb installed
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I got bsb installed
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I don't use that- have you got any settings for data disconnect active? If so, it might be worth disabling any auto-disconnect
As far as I know Twitter and FB do not notify you of anything?!
Only emails, SMS, Missed Calls, etc... get a notification.
Karlos G said:
As far as I know Twitter and FB do not notify you of anything?!
Only emails, SMS, Missed Calls, etc... get a notification.
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Twitter has notifications. Facebook does not, unless you install the facebook instant messenger application from this site.
where is that app?
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how does it notify you as.mine doesn't !
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I was about to ask the exact same thing about Facebook, because mine doesnt either, and I have been playing with this phone for long enough to not have missed it!

facebook 1.5 partial wakelock

How's your battery status after the last facebook update?
From what I'm seeing facebook is holding a partial wakelock for the whole time
Is this happening in any situation?
Removing the facebook account from the phone fixes the problem... but would like to keep it in...
now I'm trying with the notifications disabled...
FB has the highest partial wakelock use on mine, but it's not massive, it's bar is about 1/5 full.
but the timing is embarassing compared to other apps :/
to me it looked that the android system wakelock were very high too...
i'm trying to see if the notifications disabled it lowers down...
How can I check this?
*#*#4636#*#*
then select "battery history"
Or use Anycut to create a shortcut to the 'Testing' app.
same here.. uninstalled.
No problems here.
41 seconds total.
Although I would LOVE to be able to turn off the Facebook push notifications. Despite having disabled everything inside the FB app, they still get pushed to my phone, which drives me ****ing crazy.
I suspect having everything turned off would be why you have a very low wakelock?
Mine is very low. I set facebook to never check for updates since the last release added push notifications. I don't think polling for updates is necessary anymore. No clue why it even has the option still.
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hexix said:
Mine is very low. I set facebook to never check for updates since the last release added push notifications. I don't think polling for updates is necessary anymore. No clue why it even has the option still.
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Facebook developers suck balls, that's why.
JCopernicus said:
Facebook developers suck balls, that's why.
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Status updates aren't pushed, I'm guessing that it'd fry the servers. So if you want your synced contacts to display their status in the contact popup you have to poll them.
Somehow the iPhone and Blackberry apps are able to use push notifications properly without frying anyone's servers. Email and SMS notifications can also be sent out instantly. I'm pretty certain there is no technical reason why the Android app can't work right.
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Somehow the iPhone and Blackberry apps are able to use push notifications properly without frying anyone's servers. Email and SMS notifications can also be sent out instantly. I'm pretty certain there is no technical reason why the Android app can't work right.
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Sure there is, facebook developers suck balls.
pfmiller said:
Somehow the iPhone and Blackberry apps are able to use push notifications properly without frying anyone's servers. Email and SMS notifications can also be sent out instantly. I'm pretty certain there is no technical reason why the Android app can't work right.
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The news feed updates don't get "pushed" to either of those devices. The polling frequency is for updating the news feed which you would want when using the facebook widget.
I'm not interested in wall updates getting pushed. Notifications get pushed to those devices, and that's all I expect from the Android app.
Newbie question, what is a wake lock and how does it drain battery?
killing the facebook app solved my problem (not only facebook where being very "active"... but also the "android system" was kept constantly awake!!)
in the usage history the system was basically never sleeping... running the whole time :/
as for now I started facebook again... and disabled the notification thing... let see what will happens...
I can confirm that disabling the notifications "fixed" the problem... no more continuos wakelock when app is started...
dunno if push is really working... (don't appear so... will see in the next days :/)
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I suspect having everything turned off would be why you have a very low wakelock?
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Yeah, probably.
The Facebook app is just atrocious. I hate it with a fiery passion. Basically the ONLY 2 reasons I have it installed are 1) Facebook/Contact picture sync and 2) Upload from gallery to FB.

My Quest of finding a Solution to Battery Drain and some funny stuffs

I have got my galaxy S2 for a week now. I absolutely love the phone. Just that the battery problem is killing me. I only manage to get half day of usage for the phone. Then I started reading infinite number of threads on xda on battery issue. I basically tried every possible methods:
flashing so many roms (on decided to stay on KF2 right now),
deleting all widgets(could be),
root the phone and install titanium backup to delete a lot of software which ppl
classified as the source of the drain(could be),
disable fast dormancy(dun see the difference),
disable push email and sync(could be),
using advance task killer to kill app every hr (dun work),
juice defender(dun work)...
etc etc...
SOMEHOW, my battery drain issue STOPPED yesterday!!! I still dunno what exactly is causing it to stop draining. But I DID find out a pattern, when we go to the battery plot section, if the phone shows a solid "Awake" bar, then the battery drains very fast.
So I started trying very possible way to stop the phone being "awake", the above methods I marked as cound be are the ones that I think can actually help. Using advance task killer does make a "segmented awake bar" for a few minutes, but it becomes a solid bar soon after, so no use (i found "clean memory" function comes with the phone better than ATK). Deleting widgets wont stop the phone being awake but it certainly makes my phone feeling lighter and faster. Then I rooted the phone, and start using titanium backup to delete ( i cant just freeze with free version) the possible softwares, e.g the hubs, wifi-sharing, softwaire updates. Then all in a sudden, the phone tries to sleep!!!
For me, I think social hub could be making the phone awake (at least it must be one of them), but I NEED if I need to use the email app that come with the phone for receiving emails from hotmail.
funny stuff starts....
So solve it, I imported my hotmail account to gmail using POP so that I can use gmail app to check hotmail. But then my hotmail and gmail start going crazy...!!
Reason: I did similar setting before in my hotmail account to receive gmails in to my hotmail account. What happens next is... Yes.. I basically created a "loop function" which makes the two accounts keep exchanging emails automatically to one another.. I received 1000+ emails in just a few minutes and it keeps going faster and faster.!!! > < Therefore I wont try this again!!!!
Can someone tell me a solution of getting hotmail emails in other ways besides those stupid apps (e.g android mail) in the android market which basically acts as a bookmark to get you to the hotmail page? MANY THANKS!
One of these might help:
POP your hotmail into a new yahoo mail account and install yahoo mail client.
Set up a new gmail account and POP hotmail into it, use gmail client to read main and this new account.
Figure out whats wrong with your phone that makes samsung stock mail waste juice, I use it for exchange mail and it's just a bit more hungry than what I would have wanted, I get through a heavy usage day just fine.
JuiceDefender surely helps. I'm getting 2 days with medium usage, KE7 stock firmware. Yes, as you said if you have background tasks, that will kill the battery, but just close them if you don't need them. Also disable auto-sync, and let only your email sync.
Thank you kreo, i will try yahoo mail account with ur method!

MAJOR battery drain from Mail app

Dear all
I've only had my SGSII a week or so but have been very unimpressed with the battery life I've been achieving - not even a full working day.
I've been trying to work out what's going on, but this morning things really seemed to come to a head. I'd charge overnight but within an hour and a half of disconnecting the phone almost half the charge had gone & the back of it felt very warm to touch.
Looking at the battery stats and using the Watchdog program it looks like the Samsung Email app is to blame. I also saw the phone was marked as 'awake' much of the time, presumably due to a partial wakelock from the Mail app (battery history in Gingerbread doesn't seem to actually have partial wakelock as a category but this certainly looks like it). I've got three accounts setup in it - 2x Microsoft Exchange and 1x IMAP. Refresh times were initially push (MSEx 1)/manual (MSEx 2)/15 min (IMAP). I've tried changing them all to 15 min or to manual but it doesn't seem to improve matters. In case it is of relevance, the MSEx ones are imposing device & storage encryption as part of their policies (I've no choice in this).
Relevant screenshots below - would be grateful for any thoughts as to how and improve matters!
What firmware are you on? I believe the later ones fix the email app slightly, although I haven't seen any drain as bad as yours.
Another option, if you don't mind flashing a custom ROM, would be to install VillainROM 1.4, and use the Villain Tweaks app to get the vanilla Android e-mail app. It's what I've done, and it seems to work well!
Thanks for the reply. I'm just on the stock ROM that came with the phone (XWKE7) - both update on the phone and Kies don't report any further update being available for me (UK SIM-free unbranded).
I tried rooting this morning and used TB to freeze some of the Samsung rubbish (hubs, etc.) - however none of this made any difference to battery usage.
I wasn't sure how the stock email app handled MS Exchange accounts that required encryption? The Samsung Mail app isn't that bad, I particularly liked the split pane view - it seems really badly coded though if it's causing this!
Short of a total ROM replacement any other thoughts from anyone?
delete the data from the app
settings/applikations/all/email/ delete or wipe user data (all data).
make a new Mailaccount.
spline1 said:
delete the data from the app
settings/applikations/all/email/ delete or wipe user data (all data).
make a new Mailaccount.
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Thanks - had been looking for this but couldn't find anything under 'Mail' - found it under 'Email' as you mention As soon as I deleted the data it recognised the device encryption policy had been removed and this triggered a decryption of system and external storage. I'll monitor battery usage for a few hours then reinstate the IMAP account and monitor things again before finally restoring the ActiveSync account.
OK definitely some progress so far - only IMAP account added just after charging stopped and battery usage has dramatically improved...
Now going to try adding an MS Exchange account!
OK, so far so good - MS Exchange account added back in and left on overnight...
I wonder if the mistake was when first setting up the account picking the special Samsung 'premium account' option??
OK - I'm now suspicious that it is manual sync setting that is causing the issue - re-added a second Exchange account and put it all to manual - phone almost totally drained in a couple of hours, with the sharp drop occuring just after I added that:
Have tried removing just that account and hope that will do the trick. If so, will then try adding it again but setting a sync time rather than leaving it on manual.
I've switched to touchdown for my corporate ms exchange account (push) instead of the samsung app.
Battery life gone from 7 hours to about 16 hours. I can't believe the native app is so thirsty. (KE7 stock)
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What's interesting was that I was getting around 16+ hours too with the stock app having an MS Exchange account (on push peak times and 15 min other times) an IMAP on 15 min and a few Gmail accounts. It seemed to be adding the 2nd Exchange account on manual sync that sucked the battery life again. Am going to try readding it but paradoxically leaving it on a more frequent sync setting to see how that does.
If i remember correctly, it was observed that the mail app (non gmail) and wifi interact to cause a lovely wakelock, and that it happens with stock and samsung.
Maybe try something like k-9 mail?
Intersting - it certainly seems to behave like a wakelock. As I say though with one account on push and one in 15 min it was working fine - it was only when I tried to add a second exchange account on manual that I started to run into problems. Pretty poor coding on Samsung's part though regardless! Does anyone know the best way to raise these sort of issues with them?
Get in touch with Seven as well they produce the email app. I have mine on push with exchange and no bad battery drains, also I run manual when in the office once again no heavy drainage. I am on VR though.
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alanjrobertson said:
Does anyone know the best way to raise these sort of issues with them?
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In USA, they just introduced this
http://www.facebook.com/SamsungMobileUSA?sk=app_158125230916392
but obviously I doubt we can use this for SGS2 that is not out in the US yet.
You can however say that you are traveling, in the States right now
Thanks for the suggestions, folks - will try them. The @SamsungUK twitter account never seems to reply to any Tweets, but will see if they have a comparable FB page. Have found Seven's website so will get in touch with them too.

[Q] exchange email destroying my battery...and life

I know there are already numerous topics on this, and some temp Fixes, but I am about to just get rid of this phone, android, its so frustrating....and yes, i do need exchange email for my job,....this is whats going:
I'm seriously beyond annoyed at this point, exchange email is destroying my battery life on my nexus 4 running stock 4.2.2 (30% to 40% of battery consumption) ... I have done all the little "fixes" and troubleshooting that you can possible do to try to fix this and have spent hours searching online for any fixes, and all I have found is people having the same issue as me.....this is what I have done already:
I've removed the exchange email,
re-booted
re-added
cleared cache
clear data
re-booted
disabled
enable
set days to sync to 1 days, 3 days, automatic, etc....
check frequency to push, never, 1 hour etc....
I've disabled auto-sync data
enabled
i went to my outlook 365 web settings and under phones i deleted the nexus 4 profile..
in the exchange email settings on my phone i have used "m.outlook.com" for my server name
and the generic server name pulled from the outlook 365 web address recommended by the IT guy at my job
i have used and removed the Port "443"
the only thing i haven't done is throw the phone against the wall
oh and I have done factory reset TWICE! and that fixes the issue temporarily until this starts occurring again, oh and did i mention it gets super hot over 101°....the weird thing is I have the same exchange email setup on my nexus 7 and it barely hits 3% of battery usage, so why is my nexus 4 suffering from exchange email battery drain, and my nexus 7 doesn't? Unfortunately i work in a job where i need PUSH email on due to the industry i work in (merchants/e-commerce) my job offered to get me a company iPhone and I don't want to carry 2 phones, especially an iPhone.....anyone know any magical secret to fixing this? Or is this a 4.2+ bug that has no solution at this point....
Are you using a custom kernel? If not flash one. I recommend trinity, but test and choose which works best for you. Lower the CPU some to reduce the heating with any various app. I'm using trickster mod.
I have stock email set but I have it to manual updating. I get roughly 7-8 hours screen hours screen on time with WiFi around 5 with mobile data. Hope this helps some.
benman715 said:
Are you using a custom kernel? If not flash one. I recommend trinity, but test and choose which works best for you. Lower the CPU some to reduce the heating with any various app. I'm using trickster mod.
I have stock email set but I have it to manual updating. I get roughly 7-8 hours screen hours screen on time with WiFi around 5 with mobile data. Hope this helps some.
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No i am running stock android 4.2.....Thanks for the advice, but I do not want to flash, root, etc... my stock nexus 4. I shouldn't have to in order to fix something that comes stock in android 4.2. I would prefer to just run the stock android and let Google deal with updates, I know android phones are awesome at customization, but I am one who likes stock android as is (nexus devices) I dont like tweaking with custom roms, no matter how stable they are, cause I always read threads on people always having issues with apps not being compatible, radio issues, manual updates on roms, etc...but I completely understand the benefits of custom roms and kernels, as you pointed out above. thanks again but this is not going to solve my issue.
I reckon I understand your feeling although the whole reason I got this device is for customization. With newer phones boot loaders being locked down and a drag to work with, this thing is great.
If you keep it stock thats fine but to save batter youd probably have to cut down a lot. Turn screen brightness all the way off, disable auto sync, disable apps you dont use so they dont run in the background. Turn off GPS and location settings unless they're in use. Stay on WiFi / 2G when not using data. Kinda a drag yano?
benman715 said:
I reckon I understand your feeling although the whole reason I got this device is for customization. With newer phones boot loaders being locked down and a drag to work with, this thing is great.
If you keep it stock thats fine but to save batter youd probably have to cut down a lot. Turn screen brightness all the way off, disable auto sync, disable apps you dont use so they dont run in the background. Turn off GPS and location settings unless they're in use. Stay on WiFi / 2G when not using data. Kinda a drag yano?
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exactly, I mean i get the pros and cons for both stock and flashing, rooting etc....but I am no dev, and i know some of the stuff is easy to do, but I get OCD about having to worry if the kernel or ROM is up to date, will all my favorite apps work, what if I brick my phone etc....i just like the nexus devices where it is bone stock.....
as for all the other settings for saving the battery, I already do all the battery saving tips, but its funny cause they dont seem to affect the battery as much as the email exchange...i should have posted a pic...
Weird indeed. I'm using three e-mail accounts on my phone with hourly updates and it doesn't kill the battery. I still get 4 hours of screen on time (need to charge once in 24 hours usually). Did you set it so that it doesn't download attachments, pictures etc?
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Weird indeed. I'm using three e-mail accounts on my phone with hourly updates and it doesn't kill the battery. I still get 4 hours of screen on time (need to charge once in 24 hours usually). Did you set it so that it doesn't download attachments, pictures etc?
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I am using the exchange email (yellow and white icon) that comes stock in android 4.2, and I have it set to Push notification which is suppose to help with battery, and i have turned off that setting that says "auto download attachments on WIFI only" but that setting is for WIFI only which doesnt make sense cause even with it off, when I am on regular 4G data, its still killing battery.....
I give up...maybe with all the current complaints on this issue, google may send out a new update.....
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I am using the exchange email (yellow and white icon) that comes stock in android 4.2, and I have it set to Push notification which is suppose to help with battery, and i have turned off that setting that says "auto download attachments on WIFI only" but that setting is for WIFI only which doesnt make sense cause even with it off, when I am on regular 4G data, its still killing battery.....
I give up...maybe with all the current complaints on this issue, google may send out a new update.....
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i wish i could help, but i'm using my Nexus 4 the exact same as yours (100% stock) and i've not had any of those problems (my Exchange Service is sitting at 3%), so it may not be as widespread as you think.
good luck with this though.
Question to the OP. Are you adding your exchange through the email app or in settings > accounts > corporate?
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Lucke said:
i wish i could help, but i'm using my Nexus 4 the exact same as yours (100% stock) and i've not had any of those problems (my Exchange Service is sitting at 3%), so it may not be as widespread as you think.
good luck with this though.
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its weird i know, but if you spend as many hours, days, searching the internet like I have, you will find how many many people are having this issue on android 4.1 and above.....My head hurts from reading so many threads with my exact issue, and people giving some temp fixes, and some fixes that didnt even work....its frustrating,
but i will say i just re-added my exchange email and chose 1 month of emails to download rather then "automatic" and so far its creeping up to 2% but getting hot.....its at 92 degrees
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Question to the OP. Are you adding your exchange through the email app or in settings > accounts > corporate?
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ah, good question, so I have tested both methods, adding it through the "corporate" option, and adding it through "email" option, both gave me identical issues....do you know which method I should be using? I mean i already tried both, and both were draining my battery but if I can just focus on just one method then it wont drive me crazy.....The only difference I notice is, when you do it through "corporate" it goes straight into the exchange settings, when you go through the "email" method it will ask you after entering the email address and password, "POP3, IMAP, and exchange...i chose exchange, and then it goes into the default exchange settings area just like the email option....
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ah, good question, so I have tested both methods, adding it through the "corporate" option, and adding it through "email" option, both gave me identical issues....do you know which method I should be using? I mean i already tried both, and both were draining my battery but if I can just focus on just one method then it wont drive me crazy.....The only difference I notice is, when you do it through "corporate" it goes straight into the exchange settings, when you go through the "email" method it will ask you after entering the email address and password, "POP3, IMAP, and exchange...i chose exchange, and then it goes into the default exchange settings area just like the email option....
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I was just curious because I use the "corporate" method with my work account, but don't have any issues. I will see heavy battery drain if our server goes down, otherwise I don't have issues.
Another thing you could try is an app from the market. I know its probably not an ideal solution, but maybe something like touchdown will alleviate the issue.
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I was just curious because I use the "corporate" method with my work account, but don't have any issues. I will see heavy battery drain if our server goes down, otherwise I don't have issues.
Another thing you could try is an app from the market. I know its probably not an ideal solution, but maybe something like touchdown will alleviate the issue.
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yeah i am currently using the corporate method, and it still sucks battery.....but you know what I have notice, which may be a clue, the internet at my job is really really slow, our outlook emails take forever sometimes to send, receive, etc....so I am going to assume this is probably affecting my email on my phone as well....so I just set my exchange email to "never" check instead of "push" and i have told my job that their slow internet is killing my phones battery lol
Been using this phone and the stock email client for exchange since launch and have used multiple roms & kernels. Never had any battery drain issues and things were only getting better...until Monday of this week. That's when all hell broke loose. Full battery drained in record time. Overheating, barely responsive and overall just not being a good phone. Tried going back to stock and some other rom / kernel combos. Even tried a sim from a different carrier, the problem persists.
A couple days prior to phoneageddon I was prompted to setup the email app as a device administrator (See ScreenShot) a hand full of times. I usually only see this whenever I setup the account, after a wipe and whatnot. Since phoneageddon I have noticed that whenever the exchange services starts to act up, I know that sometime soon I will be prompted again. Whether or not this is related or not is unknown.
I just so happen to be an Exchange Admin at my company and know that no policy changes have been made in past couple weeks and that Windows patches were installed on the 1st.
We have ~2000 mobile devices of different flavors connecting to our mail system and so far no one else has reported a problem. Until this is resolved I have gone back to using TouchDown, no problems what so ever.
I will try to reproduce the problem fresh tomorrow or this weekend sometime and grab the logs from the server to post on here. I went through them once before and nothing stood out.
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Been using this phone and the stock email client for exchange since launch and have used multiple roms & kernels. Never had any battery drain issues and things were only getting better...until Monday of this week. That's when all hell broke loose. Full battery drained in record time. Overheating, barely responsive and overall just not being a good phone. Tried going back to stock and some other rom / kernel combos. Even tried a sim from a different carrier, the problem persists.
A couple days prior to phoneageddon I was prompted to setup the email app as a device administrator (See ScreenShot) a hand full of times. I usually only see this whenever I setup the account, after a wipe and whatnot. Since phoneageddon I have noticed that whenever the exchange services starts to act up, I know that sometime soon I will be prompted again. Whether or not this is related or not is unknown.
I just so happen to be an Exchange Admin at my company and know that no policy changes have been made in past couple weeks and that Windows patches were installed on the 1st.
We have ~2000 mobile devices of different flavors connecting to our mail system and so far no one else has reported a problem. Until this is resolved I have gone back to using TouchDown, no problems what so ever.
I will try to reproduce the problem fresh tomorrow or this weekend sometime and grab the logs from the server to post on here. I went through them once before and nothing stood out.
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wow sounds similar to me, its just unacceptable, and the IT guy here just informed me that he hasnt changed anything on his end, so it cant be the servers fault for the massive draining of battery on my phone, he told me all the other users with iphones, are set up the same, PUSH, and automatic email downloads, and none of them are reporting any massive battery draining.
Currently my phone is set to PUSH and 1 week of emails to download, and its already at 19% battery usage for exchange services and 18% email.....this blows...
I wonder why this is happening
Ran the stock email client with logging enabled over the weekend and was unable to reproduce the issue. So the fix is... Enable logging!
BTW, if your Exchange admin allows it, you should be able to access the Exchange Control Panel and start logging for your device yourself. Check with your Admins first!
**While you shouldn't be able to anything to destructive in the ECP, you take full responsibility for what may happen.**
How to access the Exchange Control Panel - See ScreenShot:
Log into your company's webmail (OWA)
Click Options (Top Right of screen)
Click 'See All Options'
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Directly by replacing /OWA with /ECP at the end of the URL. From this: https://email.YOURCOMPANY.com/OWA to this https://email.YOURCOMPANY.com/ECP
Once there, click Phone, find your current device in the list and click start logging.
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DO NOT FORGET TO STOP THE LOG!
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To stop logging follow the same instructions, but this time the 'Start Logging' button will say 'Retrieve Logs'. It will then email you the log file.
I was getting a 3-5mb log for 24 hours with everything working normally.
It's probably not a good idea to blindly post the log on the internet as it could have personal / company information within. Either sanitize it or if you would trust a random nerd on XDA, PM me and I can help.
hideous said:
Ran the stock email client with logging enabled over the weekend and was unable to reproduce the issue. So the fix is... Enable logging!
BTW, if your Exchange admin allows it, you should be able to access the Exchange Control Panel and start logging for your device yourself. Check with your Admins first!
**While you shouldn't be able to anything to destructive in the ECP, you take full responsibility for what may happen.**
How to access the Exchange Control Panel - See ScreenShot:
Log into your company's webmail (OWA)
Click Options (Top Right of screen)
Click 'See All Options'
-OR -
Directly by replacing /OWA with /ECP at the end of the URL. From this: https://email.YOURCOMPANY.com/OWA to this https://email.YOURCOMPANY.com/ECP
Once there, click Phone, find your current device in the list and click start logging.
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DO NOT FORGET TO STOP THE LOG!
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To stop logging follow the same instructions, but this time the 'Start Logging' button will say 'Retrieve Logs'. It will then email you the log file.
I was getting a 3-5mb log for 24 hours with everything working normally.
It's probably not a good idea to blindly post the log on the internet as it could have personal / company information within. Either sanitize it or if you would trust a random nerd on XDA, PM me and I can help.
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Hey sorry I am a little confused about the part that says "DO NOT FORGET TO STOP THE LOG!"
So am I suppose to stop the logging at a certain point? And what is the logging suppose to do?
I went into the control panel in the web outlook, and now I am logging.....And sadly the exchange service and email are slowly creeping up to 10% battery usage, and its getting higher and higher as we speak....
I set it to default settings as i did before (Check frequency to Automatic Push) and days to sync always default to "one Month"
and its at 12% now.....this is so frustrating...and the IT guy was not helpful, he said its nothing on his end, which i can understand because this was never an issue on my phone before. now its just massive battery usage....I give up I am going to just create a bookmark shortcut and access the web outlook 365 and have to manually check every once and a while
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Hey sorry I am a little confused about the part that says "DO NOT FORGET TO STOP THE LOG!"
So am I suppose to stop the logging at a certain point? And what is the logging suppose to do?
I went into the control panel in the web outlook, and now I am logging.....And sadly the exchange service and email are slowly creeping up to 10% battery usage, and its getting higher and higher as we speak....
I set it to default settings as i did before (Check frequency to Automatic Push) and days to sync always default to "one Month"
and its at 12% now.....this is so frustrating...and the IT guy was not helpful, he said its nothing on his end, which i can understand because this was never an issue on my phone before. now its just massive battery usage....I give up I am going to just create a bookmark shortcut and access the web outlook 365 and have to manually check every once and a while
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AFAIK the logging will continue until you tell it to stop. Which means the file size will continue to grow.
You should stop logging after you have been having issues for a while and take a look.
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AFAIK the logging will continue until you tell it to stop. Which means the file size will continue to grow.
You should stop logging after you have been having issues for a while and take a look.
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Well I stopped it, I never got any report, or any attachments of any report...
I probably didnt do it correctly, however I am still getting high battery usage, Right now it shows Exchange service at 23% and the email usage at 21%.... phones temperature is at 92 degrees, very hot!
I just removed the account, and disabled the email service, cleared data, force stop, and it still shows that its draining the battery lol
wow I give up, My job will have to provide me with an iphone.....so i will have 2 phones YAY!

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