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I see many say they are installing the lag fix on the Tab but is it really needed? Can't say I have noticed much lag on my Tab so just wondering what I would gain if I install the lag fix?
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BTJ
i dont see the need.
It depends on whether you want to show off your Quadrant score or not, really. In all the tests I've done the only measurable impact of installing the lag fix is on the Quadrant IO score (which it increases by about x10).
If you're not interested in the benchmark, I don't think you'll notice any difference at all.
ok, that's what I thought.. Thx..
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No lag here. Quadrant gives a score of about 900-1000.
I don't get it still.
From what I've seen so far, is that the Tab is one of the fastest Android device I've seen, but for some odd reason Quadrant is reporting a very low score. And what's funny is that it's much faster and snappier then my Nexus One (blows it off the water to be exact).
If a lag fix can fix this then it only shows how unreliable Quadrant benchmark is.
Maybe someone can shed some light here.
I installed the fix and I'm getting a 2100+ score in quadrant.
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only shows how unreliable Quadrant benchmark is.
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Quadrant is the worst benchmarking tool ever.
So which is the best benchmarking tool?
Ever since I've started using android, ive always been fascinated with the Linpack and Quadrant Standard benchmarking apps.
I currently have a G2 with cyanogen and overclock kernel to 1.9ghz. My best linpack score ive received thus far is around 63 or so.
My question is, is if you look for example, the top scores of the G2, You'll see scores of 69, 70's, 80's, even 90's..and when you view the device data, they're clock speed is only at...lets say..1.4ghz.
Why are their scores so high compared to mine?
Of course, benchmarking programs test more then clock speeds, but still..I feel like with a higher clock speed, I would have results on par with, or better then what they're seeing.
Thoughts?
What I have been told is those guys getting those numbers are running with everything they can shut off.
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Make sure you've got nothing running in the background or sitting in memory, and make sure to set your minimum clock speed in SetCPU to your max clock speed. It gave me a couple hundred point boost in Quadrant, if I remember correctly.
EfemaN said:
Make sure you've got nothing running in the background or sitting in memory, and make sure to set your minimum clock speed in SetCPU to your max clock speed. It gave me a couple hundred point boost in Quadrant, if I remember correctly.
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Im aware, and gave tried both of these in the past.
still nowhere near these results :S
Hey everyone. Please Benchmark using Quadrant and Post your Score along with a screen shot or picture of your score.
Also please state if you tested your phone under default stock conditions, or if you rooted and tweaked the heck out of it to get the high score you got.
You can download Quadrant. Go To Android Market and search Quadrant.
MY Score : 2799
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I am running CM 6.1 Stable and getting about 2300-2350 quadrant score (setCPU scaling between 245 and 1200). What are you running to get 2800?
Edit: Had weather bug running in the BG, now getting around 2500.
That's the highest quadrant score I've EVER seen from any first gen. Snapdragon device. What do you have it overclocked to? On my mt4g (second gen snapdragon with dedicated gpu) overclocked to 1600mhz on a deodexed, zip aligned rom, I just barely go above 2800 on quadrant.
I had an HD2 and a Nexus and never came remotely close to those numbers on any rom/kernel/clock speed combination. I've messed with and flashed many Evos, overclocked within reason, that also average literally half of that.
Since your post count is 2 and youve already opened a 'bragging rights' type thread, I'm going to have to call BS on this. Sorry, I just call it how I see it. Or hey, maybe you're just the chosen one and have a magic phone.
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I am absolutely thrilled with a score of 2500. I have been using a G1 for the past year and a half and I decided it was finally time to upgrade. My G1 was only getting about 580 with CM 6.1 (and that was an amazing score). I was debating whether to get a MyTouch 4G, G2 or an HD2 with the Android off the SD card. I was able to pick up an HD2 for $200 off craigslist and boy I do not regret it. I don't know how this phone can run Android off the SD card faster than off the nand, but I am thrilled. By the way I am using a Class 10 4 GB SD Card, if that makes much of a difference.
Only this I wish it could do is play my 720p videos without the codec getting all blocky/laggy. But that is probably asking way too much.
Is 2500 on stock clock speed? There must be some serious speed enhancements here recently, last I used a dual booted HD2 it was only in the 1300 range, same with my nexus, and two Evos. My nexus will max around 1800 with the miui rom overclocked to 1100mhz or so..Is there something special with the HD2's hardware that I'm missing or is this the norm now?
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I am using HD2ONE 0.3.4b based on CM 6.1 Stable (CM is awesome BTW). I am using setCPU to run the phone at 1190mhz clock, but it still gets great Benchmarks without. I have been using CM for about a year now on my G1. It is built for speed and memory improvements as these were necessities to keep my G1 alive and kicking up until now. I would assume anyone who can't break the 2000 point quadrant score might want to take a look at HD2ONE and CM.
PS.
Also, this is the T-Mobile HTC HD2, so perhaps the 1gb ram helps as well.
I still don't see the point in benchmarks. I used to have a build (it shall remain nameless) that got over 2400 in quadrant but the UI itself was slow as all hell. My current build (in sig) get's 1700 ish but is smooth as melted butter. I'd rather have a smooth OS than a cooked phone as well.
I'm not sure about your unnamed os but cyanogenmod is running smooth as butter
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Ok and yet again here we go.
Your scores are so insane high because of what apears to be bug in the benchmarking of the SD card. Your device is NOT ultra wtf pownage fast. Its nothing to boast about. Its just a glitch. I had a build that did 3100 and still the build from darkstone is 100% faster and only pulling 1600 points.
Benchmarks are fun to measure on devices that run off NAND not SD so for the love of god STOP the benchmark topics.
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Ok and yet again here we go.
Your scores are so insane high because of what apears to be bug in the benchmarking of the SD card. Your device is NOT ultra wtf pownage fast. Its nothing to boast about. Its just a glitch. I had a build that did 3100 and still the build from darkstone is 100% faster and only pulling 1600 points.
Benchmarks are fun to measure on devices that run off NAND not SD so for the love of god STOP the benchmark topics.
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I knew it had to be something to do with Android running off the SD card and not NAND, those numbers are just insane for the setups. Thank you for clearing that up sir.
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Ok and yet again here we go.
Your scores are so insane high because of what apears to be bug in the benchmarking of the SD card. Your device is NOT ultra wtf pownage fast. Its nothing to boast about. Its just a glitch. I had a build that did 3100 and still the build from darkstone is 100% faster and only pulling 1600 points.
Benchmarks are fun to measure on devices that run off NAND not SD so for the love of god STOP the benchmark topics.
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Well it's not just a glitch. cedesmith's asynchronous data method actually does improve i/o by a huge amount. There are a few spots where the SuperRam build feels faster than the desire_hd2 and hd2one 3.4 but it's really not that big a difference. Plus the battery drain is not as good on the SuperRam.
This is one of the builds shuntje is talking about. Cedesmith's desire_hd2, running slightly overclocked at 1.19. No other tweaks.
I do not think that this result came from a gap in the program
my phone is so fast
now in benchmark >>> my socre is 2963 !!!!
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Well it's not just a glitch. cedesmith's asynchronous data method actually does improve i/o by a huge amount. There are a few spots where the SuperRam build feels faster than the desire_hd2 and hd2one 3.4 but it's really not that big a difference. Plus the battery drain is not as good on the SuperRam.
This is one of the builds shuntje is talking about. Cedesmith's desire_hd2, running slightly overclocked at 1.19. No other tweaks.
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how did u get that high io score ?
i can barley get 5k at 1.2ghz
ish i get higher score with lower oc just 1.07ghz
overall without 2d/3d 2560
cpu 5800
io 5900
1.11ghz
overall without 2d/3d 2600
cpu 6400 io 5700
civicvx94 said:
Is 2500 on stock clock speed? There must be some serious speed enhancements here recently, last I used a dual booted HD2 it was only in the 1300 range, same with my nexus, and two Evos. My nexus will max around 1800 with the miui rom overclocked to 1100mhz or so..Is there something special with the HD2's hardware that I'm missing or is this the norm now?
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I don't know the details, but recently I've noticed a bunch of people here posting quadrant scores in the 2100-2400+ range.
I score about 2000 @1.19 Ghz, but my build is quite a bit older than the new ones.
There definitely seem to have been some optimizations done in the most recent builds, especially the one by darkstone which does something like load the entire android filesystem in memory or something.
I'll have to try a newer build.
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I don't know the details, but recently I've noticed a bunch of people here posting quadrant scores in the 2100-2400+ range.
I score about 2000 @1.19 Ghz, but my build is quite a bit older than the new ones.
There definitely seem to have been some optimizations done in the most recent builds, especially the one by darkstone which does something like load the entire android filesystem in memory or something.
I'll have to try a newer build.
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Most all the big numbers come from the i/o improvements. You'll know if you see the build uses cedesmith's initrd. Using asynchronous read/write improves performance but also has a higher chance of corrupting the data file.
Just off the top of my head, these builds all are using it: cedesmith's desire_hd2, hd2one, jdms, darkstone's superram also uses it for his build.
i am using HD2ONE ROM , latest version.. my quadrant score is 2200+..
after flushing 10-15 ROMs its first time i got 2200+
i m running Radio 2.15.50.xx
yha, benchmarks are great braging rights.
ive run roms that bench silly high, but ive also run roms that bench " slow" but in real workd performance kick the crap out of the " fast" roms.
atleast some one did a benchmark from the payed version so it breaks it all down, and shows actual usefull info...
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The reason its scoring so high is because of i/o. I believe that's the wrong metric to look at because i believe i/o is dependent on what memory card you have. If you pay attention to the other scores, all of these screenshots are right on par with the nexus one 2.2+. Still awesome, but don't brag that your benchmark is uber leet, as its probably the same or close to everyone else here regardless of build.
To test my theory, load the same build on another SD card, preferably one that has a lower class (lower read and write speeds) and then run the benchmark and post results.
I will also test a build with cedesmiths initrid explained earlier and post my results
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Doing the complete benchmark i only get 700, with FroyoBread 21, almost all apps closed, and no undervolt. Is this normal?
I got only 768, almost everything closed/turned off. I haven't tried quadrant since v.12, but i used to have about 1100. Don't know why.
edit: With 3G off I get 893, but still...
With data, localization, 3g off i get 800..
With wifi on ~980 with undervolt, smatass and multitouch (without OC) froyobread v021b
I now got 1038 with very good 2d and 3d results but sometimes my phone became slow and low ram and system fc all time only reboot can fix this.
With Froyobread 12 i got a quadrant score about 1100, but with 21b i got only 780~...
Any Ideas ??
Why do you guys care about quadrant scores.
What really matters it's ROM speed
but... if you want very high scores, click here
D4rKn3sSyS said:
Why do you guys care about quadrant scores.
What really matters it's ROM speed
but... if you want very high scores, click here
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Awesome, 1594!!
Not real but funny xD
thanx
Well I've tried xGin 5.4 after doing a full wipe and i got about 800-900, so maybe the "problem" isn't in our ROMs, maybe there are just updated statistics of quadrant, because I haven't noticed any slowdown of my phone.
1150 with gingercruzt
Actually I found that if you are using Standard's Quadrant,the score will lower than Advacned's Quadrant.
For example,I'm using Floyo v1.0,the score are:
Standard:~850
Advanced:~1100
Hi,
I don't know if these benchmark applications are valid, but I downloaded AnTuTu Benchmark and messed around with my CPU frequency. At first, I maxed out the core clock speed to 1.3 GHz. Next, I set the maximum clock speed to 475 MHz. When I set it to 475 MHz, I get a better CPU score.
Something does not seem right. Any thoughts?
...and now you know why folks don't trust benchmarks.
There is a thermal CPU control. By overclocking, you are overheating, and it's underclocking to prevent itself overheating...
CrazyPeter said:
There is a thermal CPU control. By overclocking, you are overheating, and it's underclocking to prevent itself overheating...
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That was funny to read.
By overclocking, your in fact under clocking or so it seems.
Yes that can happen. If it gets too hot it will probably start throttling each core back which gives worse and worse scores.
Right now I have mine up at 1600Mhz and I get better scores than 1300Mhz but as well I'm running nearly the same voltages that 1300Mhz is.
Nice!
Interesting guys,
I guess I'll just leave it at default settings
Too bad I can't root my device .......
STXInnovation said:
Interesting guys,
I guess I'll just leave it at default settings
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I made a bunch of (repeated) measurements with a CM10.1 nightly kernel (at various Fmax settings) and the results were quite squirrelly. When I get a little time, I'll make some more tests and post up the data.
BTW - if you were using TricksterMod are you sure you actually applied the changes? You didn't provide any numbers (your results) and it is not uncommon for Antutu to produce 10% different results in that benchmark from run to run (and much much worse at different Fmax values!!) - so is it possible you just mistook a random variation for a "change for the worse"?
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I made a bunch of (repeated) measurements with a CM10.1 nightly kernel (at various Fmax settings) and the results were quite squirrelly. When I get a little time, I'll make some more tests and post up the data.
BTW - if you were using TricksterMod are you sure you actually applied the changes? You didn't provide any numbers (your results) and it is not uncommon for Antutu to produce 10% different results in that benchmark from run to run (and much much worse at different Fmax values!!) - so is it possible you just mistook a random variation for a "change for the worse"?
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Yeah would have to agree here. Between voltage and clocks you can really affect any benchmark score. I knits I've been playing with it. Though a swing of 10% in AuTutu is pretty big. I've had maybe a few hundred points at most.
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