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I heard some rumors flying around of a 22nd release date. Maybe this thread can organize all of that.
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Yeah...we have all heard rumors and what not.....
Not sure there is anything we can organize or do...
Just wait until the 22nd and hope
My source at Verizon told me that via an internal email 2.0 is coming to the Eris at the end of January. They have not set a date for the release yet, but when they do, I will post an update for everyone.
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Yeah...we have all heard rumors and what not.....
Not sure there is anything we can organize or do...
Just wait until the 22nd and hope
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Well I guess we just keep the thread open and see what happens.
I was given the Jan. 22nd date also from a Verizon Tech when I was having trouble authenticating my back in the beginning of December. She didn't say what the update would be though.
JTF2007 said:
I was given the Jan. 22nd date also from a Verizon Tech when I was having trouble authenticating my back in the beginning of December. She didn't say what the update would be though.
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The bugfix one. There is one scheduled for the 22nd, and it won't be 2.0/2.1.
ataranine said:
The bugfix one. There is one scheduled for the 22nd, and it won't be 2.0/2.1.
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Didn't they just do a bugfix a few days ago?
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Didn't they just do a bugfix a few days ago?
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That was issued to fix one bug. The one where your phone locks up on you at the lockscreen and you have to pull the battery.
There's still one coming on the 22nd that fixes a lot of other bugs. It won't be 2.1.
ataranine said:
That was issued to fix one bug. The one where your phone locks up on you at the lockscreen and you have to pull the battery.
There's still one coming on the 22nd that fixes a lot of other bugs. It won't be 2.1.
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*sigh* I reject your reality and substitute my own.
CPCookieMan said:
*sigh* I reject your reality and substitute my own.
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Whatever you say.
ataranine said:
Whatever you say.
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It was a joke. You don't watch Mythbusters, obviously.
CPCookieMan said:
It was a joke. You don't watch Mythbusters, obviously.
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I haven't seen that show in a while. I love it though.
rooting 2.1 with sense on eris?
i hope i'm not the only one to think of this but:
if firmware 2.1 does come out on the 22nd of january, what does this mean to all the work done rooting firmware 1.5? because i'm pretty sure the problems with rooting the eris is not necessarily with fw1.5 but the sense UI thats layered on top of 1.5
even if 2.1 does come to the eris, it'll probably be a watered down version of fw2.1 because the hardware on the eris is not really optimized for 2.1 and it'll probably have a newer tweaked sense UI built upon the code from 1.5
i hope this is not a draw back but it's something to think about
It depends on the kind of attack we end up using. If we end up attacking the linux kernel directly, I doubt there will be time to plug the holes at this point. The bootloader / updater stuff, though, might be more risky, and I've been wondering about this for a while now. Guess we just have to wait and see which attacks come to fruition.
no kernel source code
i see what you're saying but htc hasn't released the source code for the kernel. i think thats what the senior members of this forum (acidbath5546, ataranine, rigmrt, etc.) are trying to get from htc through those emails. so the method of "attack" must be something else. unless of course those Mod edit: Employees at htc decide to allow us to use our devices the way we want
i'd love to contribute but i'm soo dame busy watching hulu, they've got some great stuff over there
Really, guy?
Either way, the way we're currently attacking it is like this: we know that a vulnerability was discovered on a certain date, and patched on a date after that. Fortunately, both of these dates are well after the date that the current version shipped, meaning that the target kernel must be vulnerable. Obviously this security flaw has been patched, and will do us no good in the future, but at least it's a start in our workflow.
yep
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i see what you're saying but htc hasn't released the source code for the kernel. i think thats what the senior members of this forum (acidbath5546, ataranine, rigmrt, etc.) are trying to get from htc through those emails. so the method of "attack" must be something else. unless of course those Mod edit: Employees at htc decide to allow us to use our devices the way we want
i'd love to contribute but i'm soo dame busy watching hulu, they've got some great stuff over there
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We have been trying...and Htc is sorta hearing us...
I just got word from someone at Engadget Mobile that Htc has heard us and seen the threads and emails..
And like they did on the Hero, they will release kernel code...its just a big machine over there...so we do owe them a bit of patience..
But it is good to know they heard..
Amazing what we can do as a community!
I will update as I hear more
moqadasi said:
i see what you're saying but htc hasn't released the source code for the kernel. i think thats what the senior members of this forum (acidbath5546, ataranine, rigmrt, etc.) are trying to get from htc through those emails. so the method of "attack" must be something else. unless of course those Mod edit: Employees at htc decide to allow us to use our devices the way we want
i'd love to contribute but i'm soo dame busy watching hulu, they've got some great stuff over there
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Watch the choice of words you use towards other people of any race/color/creed/nationality
If that is impossible for you, we can help you
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Watch the choice of words you use towards other people of any race/color/creed/nationality
If that is impossible for you, we can help you
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Wow.. epic.
New HTC email...
"bigdroid" over at http://androidforums.com/members/bigdroid.html
just got this email from htc.
The update is scheduled for the first quarter of this year. Now while I can not definitively say any dates, I would expect it sometime end of January to mid February. Hopefully, this helps you.
Regards,
HTC Support
Hi Xda .. hope every one is fine enjoying their PRIVATE lives!
I was thinking that the eris leak is a setup plan by htc they gave the leak so that EXPERT developers here at xda could tweak the update make it awesome do all the work and then htc download it from here and modify a little with branding and themes and announce it officially!
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Hi Xda .. hope every one is fine enjoying their PRIVATE lives!
I was thinking that the eris leak is a setup plan by htc they gave the leak so that EXPERT developers here at xda could tweak the update make it awesome do all the work and then htc download it from here and modify a little with branding and themes and announce it officially!
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I doubt they are using it for the devs here to finish
They are probably using it for us to "beta test"
Or it could be a real leak with nothing to do with htc.
Lol.. if that were to be true.. HTC would have leaked it when 2.1 was released..
htb2050 said:
Hi Xda .. hope every one is fine enjoying their PRIVATE lives!
I was thinking that the eris leak is a setup plan by htc they gave the leak so that EXPERT developers here at xda could tweak the update make it awesome do all the work and then htc download it from here and modify a little with branding and themes and announce it officially!
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I LOL'd because it's believable, though I doubt actually true.
Imagine if the official update came out rooted with a2sd enabled and powered by the teknologist kernel!
TheAshMan said:
I LOL'd because it's believable, though I doubt actually true.
Imagine if the official update came out rooted with a2sd enabled and powered by the teknologist kernel!
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for that to happen they'd need to release the kernel sources first...
@topic: if it was true, it wouldn't change anything... we can not keep htc from spying here... but it would be really funny if someone found a prove that they used stuff from here
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for that to happen they'd need to release the kernel sources first...
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I wasn't being serious...
It would be quite funny if they did. I'm sure they will keep an eye over here, as they seem to patch any root exploits we use, then we beat them, then they patch and so on... or maybe they just subscribe to the Linux kernel security announcement group
Kernel sources would be nice, as would an official release so we can get Google earth working and get rid of the silly cdma only issues that persist. I wonder if the original leaker could get us a gsm image?
How old are you guys? Sometimes this Forum really feels like elementary school.
HTC's devs are way more capable than any of the devs here. Why? Because they have the ****ing drivers, sources, device details. They built their OS. Sometimes we can't even get basic features working here, or get constant FCs. Sorry to break it to you, but HTC doesn't care about this Forum.
I doubt it but if at all, they might have leaked it to get early feedback. Maybe that's why we don't see the ugly Espresso version with the bubbles and ****. They might actually release some screenshots or test versions on purpose to test the waters.
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Maybe that's why we don't see the ugly Espresso version with the bubbles and ****.
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Totally agree with this part of your speech (.. and other too..)
Here it is! Middle of march! Where the f***k is an official update?
HTC is going to get shot because there's another rumor that it won't be out til mid April.
Surprised??? HTC doesn't have a very good track record for firmware releases.
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Why has this thread been started anyway???
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Why has this thread been started anyway???
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Agreed. Its not the middle of March, its 12th March. And in what HTC statement have they said a release will be delayed? Have patience...
sharpinho said:
Agreed. Its not the middle of March, its 12th March. And in what HTC statement have they said a release will be delayed? Have patience...
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Have patience 3/4 year!? "Its not the middle of March, its 12th" Omg! Sorry, the middle of the March is exactly 15,5th March. WTF! This thread has been started cos HTC is playing with us. Open your eyes people!
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Have patience 3/4 year!? "Its not the middle of March, its 12th" Omg! Sorry, the middle of the March is exactly 15,5th March. WTF! This thread has been started cos HTC is playing with us. Open your eyes people!
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So why don't you put a 2.1 ROM on your phone in the meantime? There are loads of good ROMs recently released that are based on the Eris or Legend dumps. There are also loads of guides on how to root and how to flash. Thats what I've done and I am satisfied.
you didn't actually expect it to come in Mid March did you?
I've learnt to take these things with a pinch of salt, HTC are too busy pushing out new phones to be bothered with us early HTC adopters.
Play with some 2.1 ROMs in the meantime, althought quite why we need so many is beyond me. Devs should combine features instead of competing with each other.
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So why don't you put a 2.1 ROM on your phone in the meantime? There are loads of good ROMs recently released that are based on the Eris or Legend dumps. There are also loads of guides on how to root and how to flash. Thats what I've done and I am satisfied.
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I have put a lot of 2.1 ROMs on my phone currently i am running VillainROM 3.3 and its very good.
But this is not a point of this thread. i am angry on htc and their rumors.
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Have patience 3/4 year!? "Its not the middle of March, its 12th" Omg! Sorry, the middle of the March is exactly 15,5th March. WTF! This thread has been started cos HTC is playing with us. Open your eyes people!
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Well yeah actually, the middle of March is the 15th!!! So... HTC have still time to release it, and if they do, then this is a wasted thread!
If you beleive that HTC are really 'playing' with you, then don't bother with your phone, sell it and buy something else... maybe one that never gets updated?!?
Relax and wait for it, I'm sure it will be worth it. There are plenty of 2.1 Roms to try already. We are all eager to see the official release... you're not alone.
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There are loads of good ROMs recently released that are based on the Eris or Legend dumps.
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These Roms have a diff bugs
http://www.htcheroblog.com/2010/03/...cHeroBlog+(HTC+Hero+Blog)&utm_content=Brizzly
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These Roms have a diff bugs
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I'm using behnaam's latest Legend ROM 1.3.1 and its ok for me at the moment - I haven't found any real bugs that stop me enjoying Android 2.1 until the official release.
But I'm afraid that no matter how much we complain here or to HTC, its not going to change anything. HTC will release the update when it is ready. If they feel a release needs to be delayed they will delay it. Threads like this will not change things.
Thread closed!
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http://www.htcheroblog.com/2010/03/...cHeroBlog+(HTC+Hero+Blog)&utm_content=Brizzly
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I think you've answered your own point here:
HTC Sweden that says the Android 2.1 release is not “set in stone” and expect it “around April”
HTC have never set a release date in stone, and so we'll have to wait for them. As I said, no matter how much we complain, it won't change things.
And yes, mods please close this thread, its pointless.
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I'm using behnaam's latest Legend ROM 1.3.1 and its ok for me at the moment - I haven't found any real bugs that stop me enjoying Android 2.1 until the official release.
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The low mic don't annoying you? After using GPS, device non sleep, not annoying you?
Anyway it's an offtop here...
does anyone know if live wallpapers will be included in the update for hero ? becuase to be perfectly honnest why is everyone so excited about 2.1 the changes are so insignificant i dont personally care the only real cool change would be live wallpapers for me i mean even the new legend port all it has is friend stream extra,home pinch and word search ?? other than than its more or less the same as a stock hero sense rom whats the big deal ???
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does anyone know if live wallpapers will be included in the update for hero ? becuase to be perfectly honnest why is everyone so excited about 2.1 the changes are so insignificant i dont personally care the only real cool change would be live wallpapers for me i mean even the new legend port all it has is friend stream extra,home pinch and word search ?? other than than its more or less the same as a stock hero sense rom whats the big deal ???
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Did you test the 2.1 roms that are out now? They are so much faster than stock 1.5, that's the main reason why I'm looking forward to the official release.
Calm down, they will release an update when finished. I don't think it's HTC who spread news on the Internet. It's people who spread rumors.
I really don't believe all the whining, what the hell?
1) It isn't even 'the middle' of March yet, if you're going to be day exact.
2) if someone _would_ say 'middle of march' I never _ever_ saw people starting to complain the moment the '15th' hit and the promised thing wasn't there. Must be something specific to Hero users I think.
3) The most official statement we ever got (and the only one, forgot all the 'february' crap rumours that started somewhere) said 'in march', not the middle. Regional Director HTC Benelux called it 'medio maart' in dutch, which translates to something like 'somewhere in march'.
I really can't believe the hate posting that starts _every_ _single_ _time_ again, primarily on XDA, but also on HTCPedia and MoDaCo. Do people have nothing better to do than wait for a software for their phones?!?
Just for the record, Sprint had everyone take the Android 2.1 training today, update should be soon.
Oh, really? Should that make me excited?
Are you being sarcastic?
Yes. We need a sub-forum for 2.1 release news/theories.
This makes what, 150 2.1 release threads?
All I was doing was trying to help by giving an ACTUAL update rather than a rumor, and even stated there was no official release set. Not sure what bit you in the ass.
yet ANOTHER useless post about 2.1
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All I was doing was trying to help by giving an ACTUAL update rather than a rumor, and even stated there was no official release set. Not sure what bit you in the ass.
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The same thing that bit everyone else in the ass, I guess.
Just for the record, Sprint had everyone take the Android 2.1 training today, update should be soon.
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thank you ...for the info...
Sent from my HERO200 using the XDA mobile application powered by Tapatalk
Guys lay off him... Anyway, I don't care about the official Sprint update anymore aside from the fact that it'll help devs. I'm happy with my DamageControl with JIT enabled
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Just for the record, Sprint had everyone take the Android 2.1 training today, update should be soon.
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Ignore the crap replies. Thank you for your first-person, factual update on the release.
Yes, thanks for the update!
Please keep them coming as you hear or see more!
I wasn't intending anything negative to the OP, just the fact that there are already hundreds of threads that this could have been put in. Thank you for the info though.
we already have 2.1 and all the goodies we need. im just waiting to see the " 2.6.29 source is released" thread!!!! then i can finally go to bed before 3am again
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I wasn't intending anything negative to the OP, just the fact that there are already hundreds of threads that this could have been put in. Thank you for the info though.
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this has nothing to do with the date of the release. he was providing factual information.
thank you
Thank you for the update. It is appreciated. This definitely deserved a new thread.
Some of us are looking forward to 2.1 roms without random audio problems, etc. The official Sprint release will instantly mean an enormous number of fixes for the roms that everyone here uses (nearly all of which were based on the Sprint leak anyway). So we most certainly do not "already have 2.1 and all the goodies we need" from my perspective.
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Just for the record, Sprint had everyone take the Android 2.1 training today, update should be soon.
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another 2.1 thread OMG!! what a jackass! i hate you. haha just kidding just seems like every one got super pissed and i wanted to jump on the hate wagon. its not you we hate tho its 2.1.
I guess I fall in line with the first few replies... we already knew training was coming soon and release is in May according to Sprint Documents. What more did we need to know? This thread only says exactly what has been stated 100 times this week. Thanks..
Edit: It's not that I hate the info.. I just feel like this could be posted under any of the other 20 recent 2.1 threads scattered across the next 10 pages.
mrcharlesiv, completely offtopic, but i love your avatar. have it as a tattoo on my chest. going to any of the concerts this summer? They stop in Ft. Lauderdale in 2 days!
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Thank you for the update. It is appreciated. This definitely deserved a new thread.
Some of us are looking forward to 2.1 roms without random audio problems, etc. The official Sprint release will instantly mean an enormous number of fixes for the roms that everyone here uses (nearly all of which were based on the Sprint leak anyway). So we most certainly do not "already have 2.1 and all the goodies we need" from my perspective.
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Agreed. Even the most stable of the 2.1 ROMs based on the Sprint leak, are still pretty buggy. In my opinion, the leak that all of our ROMs are based on is nowhere near final code. I will honestly be happy to have a stock, fully functional ROM with some minor speed tweaks. To date, I still think Gumbo 1.5c was the best Hero ROM, I just can't bring myself to go back to 1.5. I just love some of the 2.1 features and apps too much.
Good evening!
now, as we all have 2.1 it's a good time to start thinking of possible 2.2 upgrade. Has anyone heard anything? are there any rumors anywhere? Please post anything you can find!
Good Luck to us all and fingers crossed we will get 2.2 before 3.0 comes out!
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Good evening!
now, as we all have 2.1 it's a good time to start thinking of possible 2.2 upgrade. Has anyone heard anything? are there any rumors anywhere? Please post anything you can find!
Good Luck to us all and fingers crossed we will get 2.2 before 3.0 comes out!
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ya rumour is we wont get this, but may receive next update.
robbyf66 said:
ya rumour is we wont get this, but may receive next update.
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Lol
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dont be so greedy which u just got your 2.1 update for a day!
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now, as we all have 2.1
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Oh yeah..?
check your set and you will see it is mentioned 2.1 update 1 , i think they are more to work on the 2.1 before thinking in 2.2
2.3 not 3.0
Its 2.3 not 3.0 numbnuts!
Seeing the 2.1 update, the idea of Froyo from the SE dev team, gives me the creeps...
lol!
Why start people whining about the next evolution lol, na 2.2 is an easy update from 2.1 so will 2.3 i feel though that new we have the 2 base 2.2 might come faster, 2.3 is a definate no though as the handset dont have enough ram.
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check your set and you will see it is mentioned 2.1 update 1 , i think they are more to work on the 2.1 before thinking in 2.2
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Yes, as normal for S/E, they have to make 352 "updates" to 2.1 before they move on to the next version OS...
- just wait and see...
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Seeing the 2.1 update, the idea of Froyo from the SE dev team, gives me the creeps...
lol!
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Rn't you satisfied with the results?
as walt mosspuppet would say;
"shut up"
if your thinking who the hell is walt mosspuppet click here
but srsly,
if (sony have learnt there lesson)
{
console.WriteLine ("upgrade to android 2.3 and release slightly later than most other android devices")
}
else
{
console.WriteLine ("upgrade to android 2.2 when people are getting android 3.0")
}
For speculation: SE said that they will support their product for 2 years after it launch, so therefore 2.2 should be in the works. If for any reason that they wont update to 2.2, it's because of hardware limitation (probably excuse that SE makes)
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For speculation: SE said that they will support their product for 2 years after it launch, so therefore 2.2 should be in the works. If for any reason that they wont update to 2.2, it's because of hardware limitation (probably excuse that SE makes)
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LOL!
Wouldn't be the first time now, would it?!
We all remember the story of MT and hardware not capable of it...
The x10 is fully capable of running 2.2, but my guess is they will skip over it and go to 2.3 sometime in the spring.
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The x10 is fully capable of running 2.2, but my guess is they will skip over it and go to 2.3 sometime in the spring.
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that will have to wait until they are done with all 2.1x update...then they will start talking about future OS update
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that will have to wait until they are done with all 2.1x update...then they will start talking about future OS update
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Rikard clearly said on the blog that 2.1x upgrade may also include an OS upgrade, that decision had simply not been made yet.
I'd be happy with FLASH web bowsing.
Just that.
My_Immortal said:
Seeing the 2.1 update, the idea of Froyo from the SE dev team, gives me the creeps...
lol!
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Walk lightly. Say anything that could be perceived as even slightly negative and pilote will lock the thread down quicker than you can say Jimmy crack corn!
You have to say things like: The X10 is the greatest out dated device ever made. And, how glad you are that SE stripped away all the great features of Android. They were just getting in the way of SE's perfect UI. And, than how glad you are that boot loader has been lock down so that no one is able to change a thing.
And there would have to be things like, who really wants 2.2 anyway? Heck, you can get that with any other phone on the market. Plus getting flash 10.1 would just make you waste too much time on the phone streaming videos. And, that would just kill the battery faster giving you less time to spend with your baby.
Plus there would be all those apps that you can't get with 2.1, and they would just burn up all your free memory.
The X10 is perfect and SE know exactly how to take care of her customers . Now who in their right minds would want to change from all of this? I only wish I could have paid more for mine!
whatever they do they just better not release a X10 HD model with 2.2 on there with multi-touch.
if they do, i'm never using a SE product ever again.