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Hi All,
I have been reading a lot of messages on both 8525 and 8125 trying to isolate the issue and there doesn't seem to be a straight asnwer anywhere and hence I am trying to get the attention of the users here...
I have a pioneer navigation system with a bluetooth built-in. My previous phone (blackberry) and my wife's treo650 both stay connected with car's bluetooth when on call (never a disconnect). But my new 8525 gets disconnected mid-call (usually after 2 to 5mins, but have also seen a disconnect within 1min). That is, it does pair with the car kit and when there is no call going on, the bluetooth connection never dies. This disconnect only happens mid-call, almost all the times.
I have the latest ROM (1,34.502...., radio: 1.16), got the phone about 2 weeks ago from Amazon.com. Called cingular and they say could be faulty phone and I have searched other forums like audi message board where their car kits are also having the same disconnect problem with 8525, so I doubt this is a single phone issue.
I have taken the 'band' hack and forced the phone to be in either GSM or WCDMA mode and in either modes, the phone still exhibits the same problem (there might not be any connection between the two at all, bluetooth with GSM/WCDMA, but thought there might be some weird connection...but not the case thankfully).
I read somewhere about some bluetooth tweaks on 8125, but never found what those were. I need some help here otherwise I am going to return the 8525 and stay away from it. I need the bluetooth to work efficiently.
thanks for all your help
Phal
San Jose, CA
please help
I really need some help, clue or direction on solving or at least isolating this bluetooth issue. I love the 8525 but if I cannot fix this bluetooth mid-call disconnect issue, I will unfortunately have to return, which I don't want.
What headsets the 8525 works fine with (no drops mid-call)? May be that is a starting point.
Please also give me some links to 8125 tweaks that some talked about? pof/other moderators/anyone?
thanks a lot in advance!!
Phal
I have an Motorola H700, and every once in a while it will disconnect, looking at the phone after that, BT is turned off, turn it back on and it works again...
There are problems with the hardware and the API used to access it, good phone, but I don't think it was ready for the market yet when they released it. It is likely to be corrected in the next ROM release, last I heard from Cingular is mid 2007, but by the way things go, prolly around late 07/early 08.
I'm having similar issues with the BT headset I use, which is a Samsung WEP150. It'll drop midcall to the handset. I'll look and BT is turned off.
The only remote correllation I've found is that it seems to occur when I've received a new email or something a la ActiveStink.. And I haven't really been able to confirm that... But I have definitely noticed it happening then though.
my 8525 does this as well with my factory BT in my 05 Acura TL. Kind of frustrating, have not been able to figure it out yet.
Problems w/ Audi BT as well
Same issues with my Audi Q7 BT. I have seen posts in this and other forums blaming the MS bluetooth stack.
My 8525 worked flawlessly with my Garmin NUVI 660, never disconnected or failed to connect automatically. This is frustrating.
8525 Fix
I had the same problem with the 8525 and my Pioneer Avic-Z1 bluetooth kit.
I hacked the registry to force the bluetooth radio to stay ON, rather than going into sleep mode. This seems to have fixed the problem (although with limited testing at this point).
My calls would consistently disconnect with 2-4 minutes. After the hack, I've had 2 45-minute+ conversations with no trouble.
Here's the fix... install a registry editor (like PHMedit), and add a DWORD here:
HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Power\State\ Suspend
Add a DWORD called btl1: (note the colon, the colon must be there), with a DWORD value of 2.
Good luck!
My Q7 as well i took the advice of wolfgram and did this to my phone i will let you know how it works it would be a shame to give up this phone but it is really useless if this feature does not work right.
Well this is what i did i did what wolfgram said and it still cut out but not as much so i took the checks off in the advance power mode and never let the phone go to sleep and it works all the time. HTC needs to upgrade thier bluetooth setting not to go to sleep. It must stay active at all times MY phone book and all other info posted into my Q7 with no issues at all and it even sees the bluetooth b4 the MMI system in the car Boots up..
Lance
Resolution I think
I turned off 'Making device discoverable to other devices' and it seems to have solved this problem, I am using the phone with a parrot kit and it kept disconnecting now it works all the time.
Treo 750 doesn't have this problem
Well, hopefully you owners of Hermes have figured out the fix. I had to return it and now got the Treo 750 and can gladly say the problem is not there. The treo 750 has the v1.2, but I guess following the replies here, that possibly Palm fixed the problem by keeping the BT radio on at all times.
In any case, here is the post I wrote in avic411.com forum - if you want to see any follow up responses by other owners..
http://avic411.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=24170
cheers
Phal
Bluetooth cut out
I am having the problem too with the garmin Nuvi and the Tytn - which is ineresting seeing as how one poster had no problem with the Garmin device. Here is something else that is interesting - I did not have the problem when I had the HTC 1.18 Rom installed. After I flashed the HTC 1.35 Rom, the problem began. I have already tried upgrading my firmware on the Nuvi - that did not help. I also use a Nokia 800 bluetooth headset - and that never cuts out with either ROM. I will try turning off the bluetooth discovery first. If that does not work, will try editing the registry. Keep you posted.
Turning off bluetooth discovery did not work.
Turning Off Bluetooth Did Not Work For Me Either
this worked for me.....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=247520&page=10
drains the battery quicker, but no more bluetooth problems.....
Hey guys, has anybody found a solution for the auto turning off of the BT in suspend mode? its gettin really annoying
Hi,
Can't find anything in any other threads so here goes..
My M3100 (TYTN) turns bluetooth off when I turn off my Sony HBH 300 BT earpiece.
It doesn't happen everytime, maybe 50% of the time. It wouldn't be a problem but during the working day I connect and disconnect maybe 10 to 20 times and when I get back on the road and fire up the earpiece I suddenly find no BT.
I'm normally not in a place where I can safely stop to go through the connections screen to re activate it....
Not had this problem with any other phone, Nokia, SE etc...
I think it also happend once or twice after turning off my TomTom One whilst running the traffic BT connection to my phone...
It is getting to be a pain, so much so I'm considering using a OLD Nokia instead of the M3100. Only advantage is the M3100 allows more than one BT connection at the same time although you do have to connect the BT earpiece before connecting to the TT One unit...
Any ideas how I can stop it turning off without ME actually turning it off, never happens anyway, I just leave it on...
HELP !!
Phil-w
I have a similar problem and would love to find an answer before my 30 day return period is up! I haven't been able to find out WHY my BT radio always shuts off, but about half of the time I get in my car the BT is off. This - and the MS Voice Command hack not working with my particular HF - is going to make me return this thing.
BTW, I have Cingular 8500 with stock WM5.
Worked for me
Hey guys. I had a similar problem a while back.
I had installed a comm manager, and my BT was randomly shutting off. After getting some responses, I uninstalled the updated comm manager, everything has been working fine ever since.
I would recommend following the same course of action. If you don't have the original installed, maybe try installing a new one.
I recommend keeping the phone. It's great. There is SOOOO much you can do with it. If you are unlucky and got a lemon, that's a different story.
But I do not think this problem is common... good luck.
Last week I updated my ROM to the latest official AT&T release, and my BT problems *appear* to be solved.
My X1 has a very annoying problem with it's Bluetooth. During a call using Bluetooth handsfree the phone will drop the Bluetooth connection, leaving the call connected so annoyingly the caller can hear me cursing the unreliability of my phone. I then have to finish the conversation holding the phone to my ear without the headset.
I called Sony Ericsson, who told me to update the firmware. I did - to R2AA007 - makes no difference. They then said it was a defective phone, so I got a new one sent to me...
...this one has worked great for a month, but yesterday the battery ran almost flat and whilst on a call using handsfree it started playing up again. Now it does it all the time again, even though the phone has been fully recharged and rebooted.
I have been very careful not to change any settings with this second phone, no installs of anything. This is a Vodafone UK phone if it makes any difference. Any idea how I can get this working again? Even without the handsfree connected I can see the display flash 'Bluetooth on' at random intervals indicating that it keeps dropping. Sony Ericsson say that this is not a firmware issue that needs fixing now - what do you guys think?
there are many posts regarding your problem. one thing is for sure,you are not the only one. look here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=480698 and here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=471181 here too http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=448703 i have my mbw-150 and my hbh-pv712 connected at all times to my x1 the watch is always connected but my headset disconnects randomly as you mentioned even during a call. there is no problem with your phone it's a software issue.
Thanks for the links. What annoys me is that Sony tell me there is no problem and they won't report the bug to their firmware team because "it's been fixed in R2A". This isn't the case, and it doesn't give me much hope for firmware R3A.
Same problem here
I experienced the same problem. Got my X1 in december 2008. Problems started in mid Januari, about a month of good Bluetooth operations, it started to give problems. During a call the Bluetooth connnection is lost, but the call stays open. Can reconnect Bluetooth again during the call, but after some time (sometimes seconds, sometimes tens of seconds) the connection get lost again.
Was glad when the new firmware arrived in Feb 2009. Download it, and the problem was gone fore about one month. Mid march the problem started again. Downloaded (the same) firmeware version again and the problem was gone again for some time. Last week it reappeared again
My conclusion: the Bluetooth bug wasn't corrected in the latest firmware version. Just reinstallation of a new firmeware version resets the phone and the the problem is gone then for some time.....
Seems that there some kind of an internal timer/counter that corrupts good bluetooth operations. I don't want to reinstall "firmware" every time again because I have to reconfigure my phone then every time, which takes a lot of time.
I hope that Sony finally will correct this most irritation bug!!!!
In the mean time I use a Bluetooth restart programme that "turns on" bluetooth every second. This helps moth of the time.
This works for me
In the Bluetooth-Device-Manager tap and hold the stylus on the headset you want to use until a popup is shown, then select use as headset. This worked for me when i have had some problems with one of my headsets supporting more than the "Handsfree-Profile" .
=> better connection under R1, best connection under R2(using R2 since official release)
Good luck WOODY
Hey Guys,
I think i have the solution for the bluetooth problem. i had my Xperia since 11/2008.
i never had a problem with connection when i used my headset. the problem was with the I-Drive disconnection randomly.
I flashed multiple roms from Itje and Jack with the same problem always.
now for the past 2 weeks i have been using Itje V5.5 with no problems what so ever.
the key is to turn bluetooth off in the comm manager everytime you wanna install new programs. i truly believe that installing software with the bluetooth on disrupt something ???
Hope that helps.
mdshahed said:
the key is to turn bluetooth off in the comm manager everytime you wanna install new programs. i truly believe that installing software with the bluetooth on disrupt something ???
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Honestly, it make no sense to me....
try it!! it will work ...
@mdshaded
I hope youre kidding, I've had BT problem (BT turns off) since I got this phone last year.
With Itje's WM6.5 RC1 I still have the same problem.
I am not Kidding, I tried all cooked and original roms. I had a pocket PC phone for the past 3 years: Trinity, Kaiser and now the Xperia.
Again my dropped BT Connection were with my Car BT system, never with my Stereo BT headset.
try to hard reset and then install Itje V5.5 and keep your BT off until you are done installing all your programs then turn it on and report back.
Cheers
mdshahed said:
I am not Kidding, I tried all cooked and original roms. I had a pocket PC phone for the past 3 years: Trinity, Kaiser and now the Xperia.
Again my dropped BT Connection were with my Car BT system, never with my Stereo BT headset.
try to hard reset and then install Itje V5.5 and keep your BT off until you are done installing all your programs then turn it on and report back.
Cheers
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I had tried more phones (Eten M600, Asus P525, Kaiser, X1), and did a lot researchs and only HTC's one (Kaiser, X1, Diamond, TP, HD ...etc) gives such issue. Not on my Asus P525 and M600. And I had tried many A2DP devices (Sony: DS-205, DS225, DS970, DS980, Clip-D Radio, Jarba (forget what model), JVC-BT1 (car system)) and only HTC devices give me issue.
And your suggestion of turn off bluetooth while software installation make no sense as installation only perform files coping + registry registration which I don't see any relationship from BT issue.
Dear Jack,
I know it does'nt make any sense. but i had this problem on other devices and was always corrected with a cooked rom except with the Xperia..
there is nothing to lose.. just try it..
my phone had no single dropped connection for 2 weeks now.
All the Best.
what bluetooth issue, ive been using hbh ds-200 since ive got the xperia (used on buses, around the house and alot of places) works great and has a further distance than p1i but only has an issue of button compatability. i think it could be the the bluetooth device ur using or the lack of software. may be wrong completley but hear me out ive had it rnning for ages with music on or durig a phone call cause i cant be bothered to pull out of its case to avoid scratching the phone (i know its stupid) but like i said it is working, for me atleast
same problem ...
I'm experiencing the same problem:
my X1 periodically drops the connection to my BMW iDrive while I'm speaking. But, when I'm not in the car I'm using a plantronics voyager 855 and never had a problem ! So there seems to be a problem with specific bluetooth devices.
Before the X1 I had a touch diamond and it worked without any problems with the same iDrive.
Thomas
Dear Thomas,
i am glad that you mentioned your problem with the I-Drive. I did not have a single drop in BT Connection for 2 weeks now. I truly believe that installing some software impairs the BT connection with my I-Drive.
Again never had any problems with Headsets.
My I-Drive Version I believe was newer than V.25.
Cheers.
Hi,
hopefully anyone has an answer to the strange bluetooth behaviour of my X1.
The first device is a bluetooth headset from Sony. It works good, if bluetooth is activated. But after some time of not using the headset, the phone just switches off bluetooth. Sometimes after a few minutes, sometimes days after my last use of the headset. I tried all settings of the bluetooth-settings with no change. And it sucks if with the next phone call the headset cannot connect anymore because bluetooth was switched off.
The second device is a GNS TrafficBox Plus FM9BT-Y. Somehow MN7 does not detect the device directly, so I have to use the workaround with the serial port and outgoing connection on COM1.
The initial minutes the connection works fine, but then stops and is not restored.
Here as well trying different settings changed nothing.
How can I find out the address of the bluetooth devices?
Is there a tool to further test bluetooth connections (like what speed can be used, the address of the device, etc)
Regards
pt
Im using Itjes Touch 7 final & i have the same problem - infact i've had it with the last 3 of his roms with my blutooth to SEAT car. I'll be on a call in my car & it switches the blutooth off without warning. generally after about 10 minutes of actual call time. But it doesnt disconnect unless during a call ? There is no rhyme or reason to it, it just sometimes happens?
So any further info will be appreciated
Im using Itjes Touch 7 final & i have the same problem - infact i've had it with the last 3 of his roms with my blutooth to SEAT car. I'll be on a call in my car & it switches the blutooth off without warning. generally after about 10 minutes of actual call time. But it doesnt disconnect unless during a call ? There is no rhyme or reason to it, it just sometimes happens?
So any further info will be appreciated
I have Ra2generic DE with the 1.10 radio ROM on it.
At the beginning it was fantastic not having the bluetooth issue. Everything was working so extremely goood... no switching off, no disconnecting of and from the bt headset,, etc...
After a while the issue was here again...damn! So the bt became not very useful in its functionalities.... then I saw that it was not possible to see through my bt freespeech device in the car the last calls on the phone... hm, ok I said. There were lot of calls (incoming, outgoing, missed, etc) on the list...I erased them all...
Now it is working in a perfect way.... no disconnecting, no switching off..and this with the stock ROM and Radio ROM.
I tried it a few months before posting it here... now I'm cleaning up my calling list every 2nd day (I really call a lot) and I have no problems..
Hope it works for you..
i have the same problem, the bluetooth disconect without any reason, i have tried more than 10 Roms and i dont have any solution
¿is so dificult for Sony to repare this problem?
zagito said:
There were lot of calls (incoming, outgoing, missed, etc) on the list...I erased them all...
Now it is working in a perfect way.... no disconnecting, no switching off..and this with the stock ROM and Radio ROM.
I tried it a few months before posting it here... now I'm cleaning up my calling list every 2nd day (I really call a lot) and I have no problems..
Hope it works for you..
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I hardreseted the device, installed the newest official firmware, deleted the calling list and with great expectations checked bluetooth behaviour.....nothing changed for me
But great it works for you and thanks for the tip
Come on people..... please someone help us with this
Bluetooth with clarion mind
Am having trouble connecting with my new Clarion MIND - is seems the phone does not see the profiles (very similar to the phone adding the older SE Bluetooth Watch, the 100). Has anyone built a .cab to sort this out?
Any of you have a problem with Bluetooth failing? I've noticed that while tethering, if I'm doing anything particularly high-bandwidth, Bluetooth utterly fails. For example, while downloading torrents, watching youtube videos, or video calling, my connection fails and I need to soft reset my phone before it'll work again.
If I try turning Bluetooth off, then on again before a soft reset, the phone hangs at the "turn Bluetooth on?" query screen and doesn't turn it back on. After a reboot, everything's fine till it fails again. It's not my data connection, because I can still browse the web from my phone.
dartinbout in the eXpo users' group seems to have been having similar problems with his stereo Bluetooth headset.
I also seem to recall having similar problems with WMWifiRouter as well, but I can't test it anymore as my trial period has run out.
my bluetooth fails when listening to music on a stereo headset. i have to reset and reconnect after it stops playing and freezes.
when i try to use wmwifirouter it does not show a 3g to bluetooth option and internet sharing bluetooth pan will not work.
a few times i have turned on my phone and it said failed to load bluetooth stack. it also has given a similar error when bluetooth was on but not in use.
i hope the custom roms can have different bluetooth stacks more like the htc bluetooth stacks
You know what, after dealing with this problem for a while, that sounds exactly like the problem I'm having. WMWifiRouter will stop working after a while, and when I restart the phone I get the same errors. Internet Connection Sharing fails when I watch videos, very, very often while I'm watching YouTube or trying to video chat with someone. I actually watch my data transfer go from downloading and uploading to absolute 0.
I haven't contacted LG about it yet, but it's driving me nuts... >_<
EDIT: Just to double check, nev310, when your bluetooth fails, are you also using it to tether, either through WMWifiRouter, or through ICS? I ask because I use bluetooth for music at work all day and it never fails, but when I come home and use either ICS or WMWR it fails between 1 to 10 (at last count) times, without using a bluetooth headset.
-Tj- said:
You know what, after dealing with this problem for a while, that sounds exactly like the problem I'm having. WMWifiRouter will stop working after a while, and when I restart the phone I get the same errors. Internet Connection Sharing fails when I watch videos, very, very often while I'm watching YouTube or trying to video chat with someone. I actually watch my data transfer go from downloading and uploading to absolute 0.
I haven't contacted LG about it yet, but it's driving me nuts... >_<
EDIT: Just to double check, nev310, when your bluetooth fails, are you also using it to tether, either through WMWifiRouter, or through ICS? I ask because I use bluetooth for music at work all day and it never fails, but when I come home and use either ICS or WMWR it fails between 1 to 10 (at last count) times, without using a bluetooth headset.
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when it fails i am listening to music through a lg hsb-250 bluetooth headset at work with screen off using wmp. when i load wmwifirouter the 3g to bluetooth button is grayed out and i cannot use it. i have used 3g to wifi and when i close the connection and close wmwifirouter my phone acts like it doesnt even have wifi. doesnt show it in wireless manager at all i have to do a soft reset.
since i did a hard reset i have not had a bluetooth crash but it use to crash everyday sometimes only after a few minutes of listening to music.
the only way i can use bluetooth tethering is through the intenet sharing app after changing the registry to use media net but my car pc will say i have no internet access when connected, my laptop works fine..if this phone wasnt so fast all this would be a huge problem but i just deal with it. i hope it can be fixed in a rom update or cooked rom.
also.... (unrelated) the other day i turned on my htc fuze and waited for it to boot up tried to connect to wifi and load opera...took over a few minutes and the screen just feels weird and i have to hold it was up to my face i used it for over a year and now im like how did i use this phone lol. but what i did notice is i have a 6.1 rom on it and have more free ram than used ram(i think about 50mb used out of 203mb) so i started to see how many apps i could run with out them closing and running out of ram lol. all that free ram made me kinda want a 6.1 rom for the expo .i also wanted to make a thread to see what phones people had before their expo/iq
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Any of you have a problem with Bluetooth failing? I've noticed that while tethering, if I'm doing anything particularly high-bandwidth, Bluetooth utterly fails. For example, while downloading torrents, watching youtube videos, or video calling, my connection fails and I need to soft reset my phone before it'll work again.
If I try turning Bluetooth off, then on again before a soft reset, the phone hangs at the "turn Bluetooth on?" query screen and doesn't turn it back on. After a reboot, everything's fine till it fails again. It's not my data connection, because I can still browse the web from my phone.
dartinbout in the eXpo users' group seems to have been having similar problems with his stereo Bluetooth headset.
I also seem to recall having similar problems with WMWifiRouter as well, but I can't test it anymore as my trial period has run out.
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The bluetooth issue is one that I've had with my handset since I got the phone back in December. First when I would have my bt headset paired and I'd answer a phone or stream audio it would work fine. Then out of nowhere someone would call or I would make a call, and I couldn't hear anything through the headset. I would have to reset the bluetooth or reset the device. My phone would get hung on the "Turn Bluetooth on" screen just like yours does and I'd have to reset the phone. I have repeatedly talked to LG about this and they said I would have to send in the phone.
This also happens when I tether over bluetooth. It will work for a bit, but after a while even with no traffic the connection fails. The phone still says its connected though.
I bought a Tilt 2 from a user on ebay so I'm going to use that phone while my eXpo is away at LG. It appears to be hardware related though.
SPIDER, you better not leave eXpo forums. Hope it gets fixed!
phatride4ever said:
SPIDER, you better not leave eXpo forums. Hope it gets fixed!
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lol. Nah, My wife has my Tilt that I upgraded from to the eXpo, and I'll give her my tilt 2 when I get the eXpo back. I will say though, LG could definitely learn a thing or two from HTC when it comes to smartphones. My expo so far has made me doubt my choice of it over the tilt 2 and my experience in the DAY that I've had the tilt2 has made me doubt my original choice even more. I'm hoping that once they fix it and I get back a fully functional phone I'll put those doubts to rest. I love the snapdragon and the possibilities that come with it, but I'd take the slower processor of the tilt2 over a snapdragon phone that doesn't work worth a damn most of the time.
(crosses fingers)