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Hi there,
Can anyone help me with an odd sms problem?
After installing some programs to try and back up my text messages from my xda exec, which were unsuccessful, I've since uninstalled them and now discovered I'm not recieiving any incoming text messages... only the network voicemail 901 messages ever get through, but whenever a text message comes in I get a dialogue appear saying
"smsengine.exe
The file 'smsengine' cannot be opened. Either it is not signed with a trusted certificate, or one of its components cannot be found. You might need to reinstall or restore this file."
when "ok" is clicked, the dialogue closes, then when the pocket outlook is opened I get a small dialogue box saying
"SendMyMessage
SendMessage failed.
TimeOut!"
Obviously I can't ever see what the message was, it just never gets displayed in Pocket Outlook (presumably due to the error above )
Any Ideas what I can do? is smsengine.exe a standard WM5 program, if so, can somebody find it on their machine, copy and email it to me, and tell me where to save it to?
Or do I need to muck about in the registry?
I can't reset my phone to factory defaults because I have some really, really really important text messages relating to my employment which was why I started this mucking about trying to back up the messages in the first place... so I'm really stuck now, and I'd really appreciate if someone could offer some advice on what the best approach would be.
hi,
I've heard of smsengine.exe afaik its not a standard wm5 file i'd say whatever programs you installed to backup are the cause of your problems.
I'd reinstall the programs and remove 1 at a time to see which is the cause
What programs did you install?
solved - thanks - any other sms backups that might work?
Thanks Deadmetal
Strangely I'd already tried uninstalling, with no luck, but tried reinstalling, then removing, and eventually the problem seems to have fixed itself using this proceedure. very odd!
The program I installed was smsOrganizer by zedsoft
http://www.zedsoft.net/
Which doesnt seem to work on the Exec for some reason, even though it says its WM2005 (which I presume is WM5 - if I'm wrong with this assumption it might explain why it messed it up <grin>)
Can anyone recommend a good (free) tool to backup sms messages under WM5 that I can use?
Thanks for the help
Derek
Ah! smsorganiser! Yeah I thought the software you had been using was that. I've had several problems using it but it does look a decent piece of software if the bugs ever get ironed out!
the problem keeps on!
I have been trying to get my Touch to send and receive MMS but I can't get it to work. I have tried every hack and regedit on PPCgeeks but have had no luck. Does anyone here know of a way to get MMS working on the Touch?
Thanks in advance guys.
PS, here is a list of all of the software I have installed on my Touch. Maybe it will help someone know what is causing my problem here:
HTC Streaming Media
HTC Action Screen
PocketCM Keyboard 0.12
Happy Tapping Keyboard
thisguyinoc CubeConfig
OZ Instant Messaging
Weatherpanel
Resco Keyboard Pro
Resco Explorer
Resco Registry Add-in
WM6 Palm Threaded SMS
Schaps Advanced Configuration Tool
HTC Audio Manager
HTC Home Customizer
HTC Home Plugin Kaizer 6 Tab
Hope that helps and I hope someone here can help me.
Using the built in SMS app and also trying Palm threaded SMS, I am not able to send or receive MMS at all unless it has been sent to my yahoo account and automatically downloads the attachments. Anybody have any idea how to bypass this?
I have tried this hack here: http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=621
But with no luck.
Does noone here care enough about MMS to try to get it working on our Touch's?
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dharvey4651 said:
Does noone here care enough about MMS to try to get it working on our Touch's?
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Try this http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=11158&highlight=mms
michd43 said:
Try this http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=11158&highlight=mms
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I already tried that but with no luck. Thanks for the suggestion though. I have it downloaded 2 times on my computer for 2 different versions, the new one and the old one.
Unfortunately neither of them worked for me. I think for now I can live without MMS but I think this is a valid topic for discussion and something that needs to be remedied more effectively. A custom ROM with ArcSoft MMS 4.2.8.1 would probably do it. I used to have a T-Mobile MDA-AKA-HTC Wizard and I would flash custom ROMs every so often and all of them had working MMS built right into ROM.
I would like to have MMS because my fiance has MMS on her Sprint Upstage and being able to send and receive MMS from her would be nice.
I think it is a project that should be looked at a little more.
did your wizard allow you to send mms from text before?
i use email to phone email to send pics and such from the touch..
sand_man said:
did your wizard allow you to send mms from text before?
i use email to phone email to send pics and such from the touch..
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Yes my Wizard had Arcsoft composer 4.2.8.1 with MMS and SMS together in one application but separated and it did allow me to send MMS without having to use e-mail at all.
I did manage to get my Touch sending MMS without using e-mail though. I just performed a hard-reset and then installed the MMS quick fix from PPCGeeks and it works now but MMS won't go directly to the phone they're being sent to, they have to download the MMS to their phone through a link in their SMS.
I think that if someone can cook a ROM with ArcSoft Composer 4.2.8.1 the same way it was cooked into the Wizard ROM I was using, we would have no problems with MMS. I just don't have any knowledge of building ROMs and I have tried to learn before but I just can't seem to pick it up.
imlookin into this palm being able to send mms...
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imlookin into this palm being able to send mms...
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I think you mis-understood me. I have Palm Threaded SMS installed on my Touch as well as ArcSoft so I have my threaded SMS but it uses a different app for MMS.
dharvey4651 said:
I already tried that but with no luck. Thanks for the suggestion though. I have it downloaded 2 times on my computer for 2 different versions, the new one and the old one.
Unfortunately neither of them worked for me. I think for now I can live without MMS but I think this is a valid topic for discussion and something that needs to be remedied more effectively. A custom ROM with ArcSoft MMS 4.2.8.1 would probably do it. I used to have a T-Mobile MDA-AKA-HTC Wizard and I would flash custom ROMs every so often and all of them had working MMS built right into ROM.
I would like to have MMS because my fiance has MMS on her Sprint Upstage and being able to send and receive MMS from her would be nice.
I think it is a project that should be looked at a little more.
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hey, i know this doesnt sound like the best method to solve your issue... when i first got my touch (sprint) i tried the arcsoft from ppcgeeks and i kept getting an error. wouldnt send. problems connetions or sumthin. i dd a hard rest, went back to original unboxed settings (no apps what so ever) and i installed arcsoft... did a soft reset, still had a problem, waited about an hour, and boom it worked... idk what it did but i installed everything else that i had and it still works perfectly... good luck!
spunks3 said:
hey, i know this doesnt sound like the best method to solve your issue... when i first got my touch (sprint) i tried the arcsoft from ppcgeeks and i kept getting an error. wouldnt send. problems connetions or sumthin. i dd a hard rest, went back to original unboxed settings (no apps what so ever) and i installed arcsoft... did a soft reset, still had a problem, waited about an hour, and boom it worked... idk what it did but i installed everything else that i had and it still works perfectly... good luck!
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Thanks for the great idea. It actually worked but to tell you the truth, I had already done this by the time I had read your post. Lol.
dharvey4651 said:
I think you mis-understood me. I have Palm Threaded SMS installed on my Touch as well as ArcSoft so I have my threaded SMS but it uses a different app for MMS.
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YES your correct i did misunderstand considering in your first post and the rest you didnt say you HAD acro installed.. you said your wizard had it..
anyways.. you hard reset and first installed acrosoft and now it works?
Does the palm threaded app work with the touch well.. ? could you please pm me the palm app.. i don't have the wm5 version.
sand_man said:
YES your correct i did misunderstand considering in your first post and the rest you didnt say you HAD acro installed.. you said your wizard had it..
anyways.. you hard reset and first installed acrosoft and now it works?
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Yes I hard reset and then reinstalled the arcsoft MMS app from PPCGeeks and then I was able to send MMS. The recipient I sent them to only received a link to the file I sent that she could download from the internet but I was able to send the image to the sprint server for her to download.
Once I had that installed, I then reinstalled Palm Threaded SMS and my MMS still worked fine.
caretaker22 said:
Does the palm threaded app work with the touch well.. ? could you please pm me the palm app.. i don't have the wm5 version.
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It works reasonably well. There are a few things I would change about it if I knew how. For example: The panel where you see what you are typing is covered by the onscreen keyboard and the the text messages display in a linear fashion with the newest at the bottom, also covered by the onscreen keyboard. Also the installation wipes out the outlook SMS app and the registry is kinda glitchy. It will sometimes not show the notification icon or will not show the counter on the home plugin and sometimes none at all.
If it was up to me and I knew how to modify the code, I would invert the application with the text input panel at the top and newest text messages displaying in a linear fashion from top to bottom. I would also fix the registry so that it is more stable.
Personally, I do not have these skills as I think that it would make a great addition to our Vogues.
You can find a link to the download for the WM6 version under one of my posts in the Vogue Upgrading thread.
For me
Sprint ONLY allows the receiving mms from others VIA a sprint website link...
Its not up to an app, thats just how sprint does it...
Is there any way to get MMS on the Bell Mobility version of the Touch? My plan includes unlimited picture and text messaging and would like to use it with my wife who is using a "regular" phone.
im with bell in canada as well, and have been dying to try out mms, but i just cant seem to get it, i have the unlimited data plan so i dont mind using a "threaded" service, but im kind of a noob at the whole "threaded" thing....but yes, if someone could possibly help me out with installing mms on a bell touch that would b great... i tried a few months ago with arcsoft, and unlocked the registry and added new bell settings, but i dont know why, they just didnt work either because the settings were wrong or something else...any advice/input would be greatly appreciated
i have the arcsoft mms app installed on my touch and it sends the pictures... but no one ever receives them... any ideas?
i had the same thing on my mogul and it worked fine... but now...
pleaseeeeee!
I have a working CAB install of Arcsoft 3.0.26.12C that I pulled from the Alltel Touch. It has been confirmed to work on the Sprint Mogul, and the Sprint Touch. You can find it on my site by clicking here.
lennysh said:
I have a working CAB install of Arcsoft 3.0.26.12C that I pulled from the Alltel Touch. It has been confirmed to work on the Sprint Mogul, and the Sprint Touch. You can find it on my site by clicking here.
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Link doesn't work
Edit: NM For some reason my internet wouldn't load that page but it works now. Thanks!
I recently installed the palm threaded sms and everything has been working great in it, mms and all. My problem is that arcsoft mms is also working, so whenever i get a pic message it seems pretty random which program receives the message. I have tried disabling the account in arcsoft, but it still receives the message sometimes, and just doesn't download it. I was wondering if i could uninstall arcsoft...or disable it totally somehow? Thanks
When I was using palm threaded I noticed this also and it really depending on what arcsoft was installed. I never figured out how to always get it to work so I just started using clean ROM's that didn't have arcsoft installed.
Right,
Tytn on Orange (UK)
using Oranges latest rom release.
The issue is when i perform a Soft reset the device loses recent SMS messages.
sometimes its just the last recieved message, sometimes its all the messages recieved in the last hour or so.
Any help would be appreciated, thanks.
Maybe you left "message" app. open when you reset the device? If you use some software to reset the phone, the software maybe automaticly close the opened applications before the reset for you. But the pin hole doesn't.So use some software instead of the pin hole,or close the opened app. before you reset the device.Just give the chance of saving data to the applications.
Yes, I remember this isssue a while and back and used to have exactly the same problem. I don't have it anymore since using the WM 6.1 ROM's with the threaded SMS or if I use the Palm threaded SMS app.
Thanks, I'll give those things a try, and i'll see if Orange have got round to releasing WM6 for the hermes, I'd quite like WM6, but also quite like the simplicity of orange's "it just works" releases.
Post by Hannip on Treo central:
hannip said:
Need beta testers to try out this port of the Palm Threaded SMS app from the Treo 800w.
There are two cabs. One for the Sprint Treo Pro and another for the GSM Treo Pro.
Some known issues with this beta:
- No notification icon appears on the today screen when an sms comes in. This is actually a bug with the original program.
- MMS voice record fails initialization. Most likely due to different hardware.
- MMS receive fails on download step. (Sprint only)
Muffnician reported that sMMS works as a workaround to view MMS for Sprint users. Also go to Menu->Options in the Palm SMS app and uncheck the checkbox for "Automatically collect MMS Messages" to avoid getting download errors. GSM users can ignore this. You don't have this limitation.
Note that you will not be able to access or transfer your outlook sms messages into Palm SMS. Well maybe you can transfer 10 at a time each time Palm SMS starts., but there is no other way to do it
Installation instructions:
1) BACKUP your device using Sprite.
2) Download and extract the cab from the zip file and install it on your device.
3) Soft reset the device (use a program to do this to be safe)
4) When the device boots go to the Today screen settings to position/enable/disable the plugins as desired.
5) There will be a link in Programs called "Palm Messaging". This should open Palm sms. It should also show up in the Button settings so you can assign it to a key.
That's it.
Test sending and receiving sms and mms messages. Report any issues you find.
Thanks to cjohnson19401 for creating some webspace for me to upload the cab files for those that don't have access to rapidshare. :thumbsup:
For Sprint Treo Pro:
RapidShare: Easy Filehosting
you can also get it here.
http://carlnet.no-ip.org/phone/hannip/Palm 800w Threaded SMS beta1.zip
For GSM Treo Pro on AT&T/Cingular:
RapidShare: Easy Filehosting
you can also get it here.
http://carlnet.no-ip.org/phone/hannip/Palm 800w Threaded SMS GSM beta2.zip
Uninstall instructions:
1) Go to Start->Settings (Personal tab) and select the Today settings icon.
2) Select Items tab and uncheck boxes for "Messaging" and "Inbox".
3) Hit ok to refresh the today screen.
4) Soft reset
5) After boot go to Start->Settings (System Tab) and select the Remove Programs icon.
6) Select Palm Messaging and click Remove.
7) Soft reset
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Install the GSM version and take note of how I got to make it work, your MMS app may be different and you must always back up in the registry before you delete something in case you cant use MMS any more. Here is the post I made which found out how to make it work.
~~Tito~~ said:
I got it to work! When I was seeing what the problem was, i found out that the OEM MMS application was missing. So I gave up a late night and flashed and restored my back up. Well what ever happened my palm threaded text messaging worked!! I had previously installed it in my back up and it couldn't send any, now i tested it just to see and it works! You can find it here.
Ok, it stops being able to send after a soft reset. . . I will see what I can do to fix it. If anyone wants to pitch in, then pitch in . This is the latest version of the palm threaded messaging that works!
Edit #2: Ok, I got it. Just delete the MMS Key in the registry that samsung has. If you have installed Arcsoft Uninstall it and delete that key as well. Delete: "HLM\Software\Samsung\MMS" and if you installed arcsoft and uninstalled it delete: "HLM\Software\Arcsoft"
I've soft resetted twice with no issues.
We got the best mms/sms app around, 0 lag and 100% mms working!
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Once you figure out what you need to delete send a MMS and receive an MMS to make sure it works. If your not on at&t, then you can change the settings with in the application.
Working on:
-VGA
-QVGA
-320x320
-240x240
Works, but iffy:
-WQVGA- Graphical Issues, needs more confirmation​Solution to make message size limit to 600kb:
HLM/Software/Palm/Varnish/Messaging/MMS/MaxMsgSize "614400"
User Contributions
- Slimag Made an OEM Package
What would be the benefits of using this instead of the OEM windows threaded messaging?
Its faster and simpler to use, no more wm text lag, less of a resource hog, plus all the conversations save to one file for easy back up. Its the best just trust me .
can i use it for diamond?
QVGA?
How many percent of resources?
You guys have to try it out, to see what display issues happen, or don't happen.
Also,
It replaces the default Messaging app. So when you uninstall it, the default messaging app might not reappear. If that happens make a shortcut from "tmail.exe" in windows, back to the original location(Usually \Windows\Start Menu") it was and rename it to messaging or what ever you'd like.
System resources:
Ram takes like 1mb-4mb
The lower amount would be when its idle.
CPU will be around 0%-32%, Maybe less, because it only goes up when a new message comes in then instantly goes back to zero.
The lower amount would be when its idle.
screenies?
I will post later. Just test it out and see what issues you may run into.
I would like to see screenies before testing ANY application
I cant upload any screen shots right now since I tried from my phone and it wouldn't(away from my pc). I am on a short trip to mexico, and I am in california right now, but when I am in mexico, I am going to shut off data to avoid any charges. If you see uploaded images then it worked finnaly, hehe.
If your doubting this application, do a quick search on here for "palm threaded sms".
does this version address the issue of messages sometimes being stuck in the out box and resending itself, will there be vga support in the future?
wow! i can finally throw out my old (almost 3 years old) cab from treo 750. mms working like they should, nicer program icon and some minor changes. not so big step forward but better this than nothing now i can uninstall arcsoft 4.0X and still have mms capability!
any chances for working oem package?
neva dinova said:
does this version address the issue of messages sometimes being stuck in the out box and resending itself, will there be vga support in the future?
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I dont have that Issue so I guess it does, and for the vga issue, I dont have the knowledge to do that, so someone here on xda could probably do it :/. try it out and see if there is any issue
slimag said:
any chances for working oem package?
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I'll take a crack at it
Seems to be working fine on my Fuze (Touch Pro) so I'm guessing it works fine on VGA
Can you send a mms? No text display issues and such?
Can you provide a screeny?
~~Tito~~ said:
Can you send a mms? No text display issues and such?
Can you provide a screeny?
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Here are my issues:
1) Did not pull my sent messages over and create a conversation, just my inbox. Not sure if this is related to the fact that my messages were threaded in my default inbox though.
2) There is no notification icon on the taskbar (really the deal breaker for long term use)in case I don't see the SMS right away, and since don't use the Today screen the message counter located there is not of much use to me.
3) Default network connection is My ISP, but I changed that to medianet, so that it won't disconnect my data to send/receive mms, but rather uses my default connect.
4) Really needs a GUI facelift overall. Definitely works though for those that love palm messaging.
5) I didn't look into it too much, but I think the max size of mms messages needs to be fixed too, it's compressing them more than I'd like.
Attached some screenshots
Testing now... Will post results and screen shots... running a Sprint touch pro...
As of right now, palmsms is still unable to download sprint mms... Have tried many things so far... Still trying...
Any other sprint users test yet?