Athena 2, Thoth, thoth 100 - When will it be available - Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo General

Good day,
I am a current X7501 user on ATT in the USA and wonder if anyone has an update a to when the next Athena will become available in the US that will work on the ATT’s wireless network?
Of course asking HTC got me the usual "We will be glad to assist you with this question.... unfortunately we cannot comment on yet to be released products"
Anyone have anything they would care to share?
Also curious if MS Voice command will work with WM 6.5?
Thanks in advance for your response(s).
Claude H.

I have read on the internet that HTC have scrapped plans to make the Toth (at least as we know it as a 5 inch device). The HTC Leo is supposedly its successor and a 4.3 inch clamshell device. I hope I am wrong but that is my understanding.

I heard the same thing
So sad! I've been saving my pennies for its supposed release this year... we'll see :\
I <3 my athena!

I mentioned this before based on my observations...because of poor sales of the X7510...HTC might be reluctant to add a successor to the Athena line. You can't blame the public, HTC's designers are stupid to think that a few additions to the X7510 will make it a hit. Not to mention their stupid idea of taking off the hardware buttons and joystick design.
The HTC Leo...according to others will probably have a slider keyboard. To be honest, I prefer a clamshell type. Nonetheless the specs are marvelous. Let us hope the device actually will be mass produced then released to the public, and not just be left on the drawing board.
I still am hoping that HTC will release a proper successor to the HTC Universal with a powerful processor in clamshell design.

Thanks for the info.
I am looking forward to a large screen WM HTC phone to replace my x7501. Leo or Thoth seem to fit the bill at the moment. I did not see any other large screen WM phones about, so HTC it is.
Anyone have a clue as to when either might hit the sales channel and/or if ATT will pick up the Leo as an offeing or not.
I did not find any info on ETA for either phone on the net.
Thanks people for your input n this.
BTW: Did you all hear about WM 6.5 including "TellMe" voice command software. Too cool.
Thanks,
Claude H.
Claude H.

Anyone have any more news or infor on the Thoth or Leo?

The HTC Leo doesn't appear to be a clamshell, and I doubt a keyboard, but September may reveal more info and whether there will be a Thoth.
I suspect that the Thoth if it does come out (and I hope it will), will be the same specification as the Leo, but of course the larger screen, but the larger battery is the greatest benefit.
http://ai.rs/2009/08/htc-leo-picures-surface/
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http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/14/htc-leo-rendered-again-maybe-by-htc-more-likely-by-fans/
http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/17/latest-htc-leo-render-seemingly-confirmed-by-leaked-rom/

Do you have any news?
I am waiting for the Thoth... I hope they will release it and I hope it will have normale audio in addition to stereo speakerphones... I have an Athena 7500 and when my bluetooth ends its battery I am always lost... the size of the Thoth will make it a killer app!!

It would be a smart move for HTC to reconsider development of the Thoth 100. They seem to have been ahead of their time in maxed-out, big-screened mobile os gadgets game, I.e. now we have the iPad, the maxed out iphone, the dell mini 5, the maxed out android, the samsung mondi, the maxed out winmo classic, all pretty much filling in the nitch that the Athena, the maxed-out winmo professional pioneered.
Now would definitely be a great time for them to remind us of this fact with the Thoth 100, marketted as the original mega-convergent device that's also, as was always, still a kindle killer.
C'mon htc!

Yeah, I am really dissappointed that we didn't see something at CES. Maybe the Euro mobile phone world congress? It is less than 2 weeks off...

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HTC Athena2 aka Thoth?

http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=52811
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Discussing this on the End of Life thread....
I do hope they put in a faster processor.
I think they took all the buttons away this time.
I want in new Athena Thoth chip Nvidia Tegra
adamektt said:
I want in new Athena Thoth chip Nvidia Tegra
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Haha... and good drivers for this chip
Any news of this from MWC2009?
To be honest, because of the low sales of the X7510, they are not going to change anything in the new version just so they can get rid of their excess hardware stock. I feel they will only upgrade the following:
Capacitive screen
Bigger resolution
Bigger ROM and RAM
and the rest stays the same...
Just look at what they did with the new HTC Touch PRO 2. Nothing new, still the same old device with a few changes. No big leaps...nothing...
Maybe we can hope that we get hold of a new ROM that the cooks might be able to tweak for our existing devices?
HTV Thoth
The HTC Advantage 4 will be the coolest device ever. It has time travel something like the Apple Time Machine. 3D hologram chat, which means you can see your girlfriend live in front of you. An option to dump windows OS for Apple iphone OS. 15 million pixel camera, a laser beam to defend yourself like Star Wars.
Please place your orders with HTC right now.
greatestkelvin
Ha-ha-ha, cool!
Thoth: More info, 09-2009 release date?
The big news (rumored, not confirmed) is that the processor and RAM/ROM will be upgraded:
HTC 7500/7501/7510 http://www.htcwiki.com/page/Athena?t=anon :
Processor: 624 MHz, Intel PXA270
RAM: 128 MB
ROM: 256 MB
Thoth:
Processor: 1GMHz Qualcomm 8250
RAM: 256 MB
ROM: 512 MB
Additionally, 5.0MP camera, and 480x800 screen.
Still no word on SSD, but I would estimate at least 32GB, but hoping for 64GB!
Follow the links:
http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2009/...-lineup-gets-fleshed-out-with-specs-prices-d/
Here are some links on the Qualcomm Snapdragon capabilities, sound very promising in terms of video performance!
http://forum2.mobile-review.com/showthread.php?t=72659
http://forum.brighthand.com/showthread.php?p=1625359
keithwwalker said:
Here are some links on the Qualcomm Snapdragon capabilities, sound very promising in terms of video performance!
http://forum2.mobile-review.com/showthread.php?t=72659
http://forum.brighthand.com/showthread.php?p=1625359
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Let's cross our fingers that HTC won't try and screw something up. They always do in the end. So I guess we will have to wait.
pre-ordering Athena 2 aka Thoth
Where can you place a pre-order?
Any news/info about the Thoth/Athena 2?
I can't found at FCC site.
Hopefully something will be released soon:
http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2009/06/02/htc-showing-some-new-stuff-in-london-on-june-24/
Thoth isn't dead yet...
Here are some recent rumors (same info, from different sites):
http://www.modaco.com/content/windo...thoth-and-omni-may-be-more-than-just-renders/
http://www.phonearena.com/htmls/HTC...ing-on-the-Thoth-and-Omni-article-a_7289.html
http://wmpoweruser.com/?p=8549
All very tenuous so far. Looks like nothing until 2010...
I hope they release a clamshell device.
If you look at the way HTC's site is configured, it is set up for:
Touch
Touch/type
type only
Since the Athena is touch/type I doubt it be a clamshell, but there are other devices that may be like the Shift
They really should resume development of the Thoth, it seems its time has really come now with the release of the Apple iPad, the Amazon kindle, the Dell mini 5 or even the Samsung mondi, it seems everyone is racing to fill in that sweet spot between maximum portability and capability.
As far as I see it, the htc athena / advantage was years ahead of its time, and consumer demand is only now beginning to catch up with these sort of toss it on the couch when your done surfing the web type devices.
And with Fennec, aka Firefox Mobile about to be released in a few months, with full desktop style youtube and google video support, it will be prime time for the Thoth to establish itself as the original iPad, Kindle, Mini 5, and Slate Pc killer.
C'mon HTC: don't miss out on this opportunity.

[POLL] Most similar to a perfect upgrade for Universal

Which one you think get´s closer to be a real upgrade for our fantastic Universals?
Any other model to consider?, please post it´s name,brand and picture!!
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Universal: 3rd place on the best HTC device ever: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=446362
Closed as per OP request.
Re-opened as per OP request.
Dave
Poll
Come on folks!!
Give your voting and opinions please!
I had a touch pro 2 for a short amount of time i would say that it is really not like the universal. too bad the omni never came out
http://www.gadgetextra.com/20070716/Upcoming_HTC_Omni.aspx
josefcrist said:
too bad the omni never came out
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I agree Omni could have been a Univeral replacement but it never made it...
Yeah, too bad
But now hope HTC will do something!
If not I am seriously thinking on move to Tsosh K02....
There is no real device to upgrade. I have tried three devices, XDA Flame - very good, but without keyboard, Touch HD - nice display, but no power (Qualcomm), hard to control (no buttons, no dpad), no qwerty, Xperia X1 - nice, but to small and no power (Qualcomm).
Touch Pro 2 has not jack 3.5, has not flashlight for camera, has not so big display as Uni and has not so big keyboard as Uni . And yes, there is gps.
I think HTC Leo with hw qwerty could be a solution .
Yeah, perhaps the touch pro 3 that is a line with keyboard can be a good succesor (if HTC launches...)
If not tosh k02 looks promising
Please vote!
a friendly bump!
It has to be the nokia N900 for me - I use my uni as a portable Linux box with UMTS/GPRS always on internet access and i've been waiting 4 years for a another phone with good linux support, display res >= 640x480, qwerty keyboard and 3G/HSPA that still fits in my pocket (so no netbooks)
More pics
More pics of Tosh K02
not very good looking keyboard, but I wonder if this is only a prototype?
And L01 with detachable kb
More info:
http://www.wmexperts.com/toshiba-k01-k02-and-l01-appear
orb3000 said:
But now hope HTC will do something!
If not I am seriously thinking on move to Tsosh K02....
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Ya i also thought but then will there be great rom cookers like we got here for HTC... probably not... so best option stick to HTC or lear how to cook yourself
and here is what could be another successor...
looks better than tosh KO2
Yes it looks much better, but what is it?
Brand?, mockup?
It´s not a question of learning to cook ROM´s, it´s the limitations of hardware on our beloved Uni´s
We have great Chefs here and I´m quite happy with their ROM´s
orb3000 said:
Yes it looks much better, but what is it?
Brand?, mockup?
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Well it's intel's first shot at the phone market ... finally intel comes into phone market... the specs hasn't been confirmed it says intel atom processor, sd slot along with 2 usb host. 47 buttoned keyboard, with tracker ball... well it's most likely be Rodhium 3 than uni-2...
18 cm * 5cm * 2 cm... mobile phone?
HTC HD2 !
Guys !
I am mesmerised by HTC HD2. I am finding it very difficult to resist. What is your advice ? How long should i wait before i get one ? Any changes expected in firmwares after 1rst release ?
Uni will continue to remain with me.
Leo is great but if no hardware keyboard is not an option for me
I would wait 6 months and sure HTC will launch Touch Pro 3!!
By now I can happily wait with a Touch Pro 2
nagash91 said:
18 cm * 5cm * 2 cm... mobile phone?
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no its 18 cm X 8 cm X 2 cm.... only keyboard is 5 cm
I have to say Dream Device Uni-2

WM7 not for Touch Diamond 2

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@ StalkerZoner for Diamond 2 firmware is not planned.Of the existing communicators on the market, only HD2 firmware to get WM7.
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http://www.redmondpie.com/windows-mobile-7-confirmed-for-htc-hd2-9140293/
There is a minimum spec hardware requirement for WM7. HD2 meets the spec but sadly Topaz is well below.
Of course, it will be interesting to see what our chefs can do with it
But maybe
I say TP, TP2, D, D2 is PLANED...
WM7 is not just one distrib... like W7 is have two level or more (maybe Pro and Stnd.) I think Stnd is for the old devs....
Maybe this will not be the end, but NOW is plane.
WM7 will have radical new kernel with driver implementation...
one hundred words is one to the end, I hope will be true
http://forum.ppcwarez.org/viewtopic.php?f=53&t=94034&start=0
WP7...
Windows Phone 7... official release for TD2... dream on! In all the history of Windows Mobile devices (now Windows Phone devices), I have never seen or heard of a manufacturer / network provider offering official upgrade for a particular device twice.
TD2 has had official upgrade from 6.1 to 6.5... if you think you'll get official WP7 for this device you're living in dream land
However, that doesn't mean we won't get it for our devices. If only there was a web site somewhere with clever chefs who might be able to cook this for us... mmmm
sadly it DOES
I' sorry to bust your bubble guys but WiMo will no longer support resistive touchscreens (such as the one our TD2s have) and will thus not be able to run on the TD2 at all.
I'm pretty sure there is nothing even our chefs can do about that.
also, drivers will be a problem, since there'll be no WP7 device with Topaz hardware specifications. i'm sure some daring guys will try to port, but it will never work like a stock rom is suppose to. hope i'm wrong.
looks like im going to use the android port when shadowline finishes it then
Windows Phone 7 (user interface "METRO") preview...
Anybody know what is the mobile type in this video?
I have to say it looks incredible. It's an exceptionally clean and integrated UI, I like how they're playing nice with Gmail, Facebook etc and I'm hoping there's twitter and flickr support and the like.
I remember seeing some crummy looking Windows Mobile 7 "leaked" screenshots a few months ago... they must have been deliberately planting these to throw people off the scent becuase they are nothing like this new UI. They did a hell of a job keeping it under wraps! From dondragonka's video you can see it already looks pretty polished and fast. Impressive!
But I wonder about some of the key things I rely on with my Topaz, like spbWallet and iGo.. the app support would want to be just as slick as the UI.
wheresmybeaver said:
I have to say it looks incredible. It's an exceptionally clean and integrated UI, I like how they're playing nice with Gmail, Facebook etc and I'm hoping there's twitter and flickr support and the like.
I remember seeing some crummy looking Windows Mobile 7 "leaked" screenshots a few months ago... they must have been deliberately planting these to throw people off the scent becuase they are nothing like this new UI. They did a hell of a job keeping it under wraps! From dondragonka's video you can see it already looks pretty polished and fast. Impressive!
But I wonder about some of the key things I rely on with my Topaz, like spbWallet and iGo.. the app support would want to be just as slick as the UI.
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those photo's u saw were prolly "photon". it was an early development of winmo7 which they scrapped for what you now see.

Sony Ericsson Xperia X10 user experience and stuff

Hi all,
today I got a X10 unit (here in Croatia there was a press conference) and X10 come with localized Android 1.6 Cupcake operating system.
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I just put battery in side and connect to Internet.
Device is great, solid construction (I also have HTC Legend), it is fast, but without multitouch
Can you, please, confirm the presence of AWS (WDCMA-IV) 1700MHz band support?
BTW Android v1.5 was Cupcake, your X10 is running Donut.
PS: I don't give a flying f*ck about multitouch, it's a classic gimmick with no use for me - I prefer to be able use my phone with one hand instead of having to perform some two-handed gymnastics nonsensical gymnastics, only to gain nothing but lose safety when, say, I'm riding a train or driving a car or walking with my daughter holding her hand.
Tnx for correcting me, so where can I check AWS?
Well, I am playing with X10 for few hours, and I think that the main problem is 1.6 Android, in comparation with Legend (which I have) it is slightly slower. This can be seen in putting widgets.
What you see is the "Donut lag" - it is a common problem among Donut-based devices.
After someone releases a 2.x port it should be gone.
Well, we will sit and wait and I will continue to use my HTC Legend, hope to see upgrade rom from SE on 2.1
I know they will, it's only the question of when...
Retail version review from Stuff Mag:
anyway, they say that SE UI is pretty laggy...
Congratulations on your new device beetleman! Glad to see you went with an excellent choice. Hope you can include some more pictures soon.. Have you tried changing the background at all?
Thanks but I won this device and also HTC Legend, last week (what can I say, best week in my life- HTC Legend was in press conference,and SE Xperia x10 on SE event- I am ICT yournalist and editor in chief of Croatian e-zine about smartphones).
So I am very lucky, but as I said, it is good device, with big potential, so in comparation with Legend, Legend has smoother UI (HTC Sense) and implementation of services, but all thanks to 2.1 Eclair, so we wait update on X10.
Today I got him, so I will play with him a while, so we will se how it goes..
my main concern is TFT screen, because AMOLED screens are much better.
beetleman said:
my main concern is TFT screen, because AMOLED screens are much better.
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...until you step outside.
hehe, so TFT screen is better outside? I thought that AMOLED was better...
Hmm we will see soon, I drive miata, without roof in a sunny day, we will see
Congratulations !
Keep us informed.
BluechipJ said:
Retail version review from Stuff Mag:
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Man even SE temselves can't get it right. They've linked that video through thier own Twitter postings, yet it was posted on Feb. 19.
Stuff.tv's actual review (which they state is of a pre-release unit) is this one posted on Monday:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LzqznTsA130
saltorio said:
Man even SE temselves can't get it right. They've linked that video through thier own Twitter postings, yet it was posted on Feb. 19.
Stuff.tv's actual review (which they state is of a pre-release unit) is this one posted on Monday:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LzqznTsA130
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Ouch! I cannot watch this: her nails are truly disgusting... what a nasty, unattractive girl.

Motorola Pro+ announced

http://www.engadget.com/2011/08/30/motorola-pro-announced-with-gingerbread-few-other-improvements/
The changes are as follows:
Screen resolution is going from HVGA (320x480) to VGA (480x640)
Battery capacity gets a bump from 1420 mAh to 1600 mAh
Android 2.3 (instead of 2.2)
4GB internal memory (over 2GB in the Pro)
Rounder form factor
Weighs 113g (down from 134g)
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I think that's it. Thoughts? I, for one, certainly welcome the more capacious battery and higher screen resolution (though that's hardly a big deal on such a small screen). I'm a bit bummed that they didn't use this opportunity to make the screen a bit larger, and include directional keys.
Quite disappointed actually - what is this? A facelift?
This could have been a serious opportunity for Motorola to really create a "grim reaper" for the new Blackberry - and they are just giving it away with something that is already out-dated before its even out! No dual-core cpu? No front-facing camera? Only a VGA screen?? I mean come on .. once in a time, Droids were top of the line Android devices with the latest tech and now Moto just seems to retreat and leave that job to Samsung and LG ... Oh and something else, it doesnt look half as attractive and cheeky as the original Pro ... just my 2 cents ..
No front camera + no screen size increase = FAIL.
I mean come on, how hard is it to make that screen a 3.5 inch? Or at least a 3.3?
I just wish I could get it here in the US. I really don't want to go to Verizon just to get this style of phone.
jthomas1987 said:
I just wish I could get it here in the US. I really don't want to go to Verizon just to get this style of phone.
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I've read in several places that it's anticipated to come to the US as well. It evidently has support for both AT&T and T-Mobile: http://www.electronista.com/articles/11/08/30/motorola.pro.plus.unveiled/
Even if it doesn't get an official release in the US, it should be fairly easy to get an unlocked one from overseas.
The phone is definitely a disappointment for me. I love my Pro, and I was looking forward to some sort of significant bump up. Oh well, I guess I'll start looking elsewhere.
Great. I want the better resolution. My BB 9780 had SUCH a glorious screen, the Droid Pro aint bad, but it aint stellar either. Can't wait for this to come out.
Getting my MOTOROLA PRO+ (AKA: MB632, "Elway Plus", apparently...), on Monday, from the UK... Very disappointed to see that there is very little (practically nothing), about said device - and even about its predecessor the DROID PRO - but yet other "not-so-good" (but similar in a way) devices (ie: Samsung Cha-Cha), do even have custom ROMs available at this stage!
This is a very good device (on paper at the moment, I will find out more in 48h when I finally have it) but for those of us that want a "bar" type, qwerty keyboarded, Android smartphone, for mostly emails, texting, calls (obviously) and - most important (at least as far as Im concerned): one of the best battery lives amongst all Android devices! - this is a dream! ...but of course if you are one of them people who use their smartphones more like a tablet (movies, games, music, etc.) than a phone, then this device is not for you...
MOTOROLA PRO+ "Temp Forum"
Im hoping not to be contravening any rules here but since there is barely any info on the MOTOROLA PRO+ at the moment (not much info either on its predecessor MOTOROLA (DROID) PRO), I though all little bits of infor around (I have posted a few things in different places) could be gathered in one place - HERE: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=19973225#post19973225 ...at least until when (and if) a dedicated section is created for this device...
Vote for Motorola Pro+ Forum
everyone should go to: Link and vote +1 for a separate Motorola Pro+ Forum
I just got mine ordered and should be here soon. I'm actually excited. I've been using blackberries for 5 years and selling phones for just about the same length of time. I switched to android but after a year I still find typing to still be a pain and a blackberry just can't be fully replaced due to their amazing keyboards. All keyboard android alternatives are horrible. After reading all the reviews this phone sounds exactly like a perfect combination of android meets blackberry.

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