encryption question - Touch HD General

on on htc touch hd go to start >setting>system
you then have the encryption tool that says when you activate it
"encrypted files can only be read on this device "
so may be a daft question but when i have this activated can i connect my phone via active sync or as disk drive and still see the files and open them and my memory card ?
what im trying to get at is if anyone found my phone they can read the files as they have the phone. what has been encrypted ?
thanks

I'd say no
I'd also say reflash with another rom and you can't read it ever again
even hardreset the phone and you can never read it again
it's made to make sure you're most secret stuff never gets out if you're phone
is stolen not to make sure your stuff will ever be something you can retrieve if something goes wrong

are you saying that you think the encryption is not working ?

No. That's not what he's saying. He's just advising that you not use it. The encryption key is stored on your phone's memory, so that if you ever hard-reset or flash another ROM, the encryption key will be lost and you won't be able to access the data on your memory card, ever again. You would have to do a full format of the card to even be able to use it again.

thanks for clearing that up .
could you recommend any software that i can install on the phone that requires
password to access the memory card while still in the phone and require password if memory card was taken out of phone and put into a pc memory card reader
thanks

I don't really know of anything that would be compatible across multiple systems/platforms like that

I just googled this and found the following software:
http://www.aikosolutions.com/encryption/secubox-encryption-vs-windows-mobile-encryption/
Just some thoguhts for using the native encryption...
I wonder if the encrytion key can be extracted from the phone...?
That way it could be added again on another ROM. Also, the key could then be used in a desktop application that implements the same algorithm (AES, I think). This would allow the card's contents to be accessed outside of the phone.

Related

After hard reset, back up files missing trusted certificate?

I am running into a very strange situation and I am wondering if anyone has an answer to this:
After I had to hard reset my s200: I am restoring my backed up files using SpriteBackup. I have done this many, many times before with the s200 as well as my x51v and I have never had a problem at all.
Now all over sudden after I am done restoring my files (I have tried 10 different files, since I am backing up every night) I am getting this error message:
"The file "application" can not be opened. Either it is not signed with a trusted certificate or one of its components cannot be found. You might need to re-installl or restore this file."
So, essentially I am not able to open any of my applications (all are stored on my SD card). Is there anything I can do in order to avoid having to re-install these? Furthermore, I have a lot of settings, which I can not simply duplicate anymore (like MMS, GPRS (internet via Tzones), etc. etc.) and I really would like to avoid having to do so.
If anyone has a remedy to this problem, I would very much appreciate any help!
Sorry about the long text and tehanks in advance
Hi,It does the same things on my spv m600:copy all the files from your sd card to your computer.Format sd card an put the same name before hard reset ( my sd card : sorry in french :carte de stockage,and after reset name was changed : storage card ).If you've not the same name softs don't work.Maybe you must change the name directly after format in the phone registry.
Marc from France.
Thank you Marcdu81! I have tried this already but without any luck.
Thanks for your advise!
Have you format your sd card with you pda or your computer ? You must format with your pda.I try to find a solution for you.
Marcdu81 said:
Have you format your sd card with you pda or your computer ? You must format with your pda.I try to find a solution for you.
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I formatted the the SD card with my PC. Let me try to format it using the PPC directly.
Another very strange thing is that I tried to re-install some applications but I am not able to even do that anymore. I am doing another hard reset and try to re-install some applications... let see.
OK.I use spb backup and i never have problem to use my softs.

Corrupted SD Card

Hi,
What happened
Yesterday when I had more time I started installing some applications on my HTC Touch HD.
I installed:
1).NET Framework 3.5
2) Advanced Configuration
3) Total Commander
4) Gyrator 2
I had already installed IGO 8 a few months ago.
After installing Advanced configuration I tested the IGO and it was working, I had no problem.
However after I installed Gyrator 2 and with Gyrator 2 on I tried to start Igo8, the IGO8 didn't want to start. After further attempts and investigation I came to the conclusion that the SD Card is corrupted.
Symptoms of the SD Card(original one that came in the box with the device):
1)While reading it from PC only the root directory of the card is visible with all the folders inside but I can access only one folder out of 15. for the others I get an error, cannot read from the device...
2) From the HTC touch HD I can even enter all the folders but while accessing some files, not all of them, I get errors saying that the files could not be opened.
3) I had to do many restarts so only two times the first screen that you see after you power-on the device is the "Smart mobility" and then after a few seconds you get the details of the ROM and two other rows in the bottom right corner. So for two times the "Smart mobility was not centered" as well as the bottom right corrner data they were not at their position. However now after 5-10 more power-on power-off manipulation the first screen seems to be ok.
Possible causes as I see it are two:
1) Gyrator 2 and IGO8 do not lik eache other very much, and some how when IGO8 started maybe the orientation of the screen just changed from portrait to landscape. It is just a theory, as I'm not an expert I cannot say if it's correct or not.
2) After installing the Gyrator2 I have somehow unplugged the USB cable while the computer might still have had a connection to the PC. That's ulikelley because I allways do the "Remove USB device" before unplugging, but I did it so many times that I do not remember exactly that time. However I trust my instincts even though I cannot exclude the possibility of an error.
The cause 2) might be realated as well with the usual problem of choosing the action needed when you connect he HTC Touh HD trough the USB cable. It happened many times that an option is preselected(read the Storage card) but I want to actually synchronise the device with ActiveSync, so initially the PC opens the SD card as an external drive and then after I click on the phone to choose the ActiveSync connection it closes the external drive and makes the connection.
Is there a better way to choose between the modes of connectivity to PC, taking into account that when you want to install some software on the device you have to either copy the file on the device itself and start it there or install it on the PC and use ActiveSync to install it as well on the device.
My main question is related with the helthcheck of my HTC Touch HD.
a) Is there a risk that the internal built in flash storage of the device is corrputed as well? I have checked all the files almost with no problems of accessing any of them. It seems ok to me. The only thing that worries me a bit is the problem with the splash screen as I explained it under possible cause 2) which now doesn't seem to appear anymore.
b) is there any other part that I should verify to make sure that my device is ok.
c) Less important, if you could help me find out what happened to make sure that I won'trepeat it again and break the next SD Card.
d) Can I recover/repair the SD Card itself, the data that I had on were not very important I have them on my PC in proportion of 90%. I downloaded some tool from SanDisk called usb-test-tool.exe but it fails to see the card(I think the tool is not the right one), or I shouldn't even bother because there is a risk of having problems afterwards.
Most probably I'll have to buy another SDMicroCard I'll try to buy the same brand maybe for 16GB, I do not know the prices yet.
Sorry for the long pot, but I wanted to give allt he details.
Thanks for your support!
And now most probably I'll have to uninstall the applications that were installed on the SDCard, I hope it will work out and there will be no left-overs in registries or on the filesystem.
coincidence
well. Mine got bricked too yesterday. it was a 16GB sd-card. Only my phone can access it and the data is gone. Data was firts messed up (like chaotic named folders and files) and then disappeared. I can create new folders and files there but it is full of lost chains and clusters (found by mobile apps) and reports the same free space as before (40%) but there are no content visible. When I connect it to laptop either as an disk drive from mobile or directly with sd-adapter I get high cpu usage of interrupts and a frozen usb managment and need to restart.
Hi,
There have been other topics on SD card corruption, then loss :
SD card not shown
HELP ME! Flash has gone wrong
Help! My HD cant find my micro-SD
SD HC_problem
foulke said:
Hi,
There have been other topics on SD card corruption, then loss :
SD card not shown
HELP ME! Flash has gone wrong
Help! My HD cant find my micro-SD
SD HC_problem
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Yeah but once its bricked it IS bricked. I got my 16G changed thanks to warranty. I actually think I fried it with overheated device.
And people: A L W A Y S B A C K U P Y O U R S T U F F !!!!
darfri said:
well. Mine got bricked too yesterday. it was a 16GB sd-card. Only my phone can access it and the data is gone. Data was firts messed up (like chaotic named folders and files) and then disappeared. I can create new folders and files there but it is full of lost chains and clusters (found by mobile apps) and reports the same free space as before (40%) but there are no content visible. When I connect it to laptop either as an disk drive from mobile or directly with sd-adapter I get high cpu usage of interrupts and a frozen usb managment and need to restart.
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Same happened to me with my 16gb Sandisk card.
Card reader said is was write protected and could not format using SDFormatter.
Solution after a search found on the Raphael forum was to download http://www.cnetx.com/format/download.asp and install to main memory.
Success !
Then I could read it and formatted again with SDFormatter
Hope this helps
r
Andrew

Encryption

Hi All,
Can anyone recommend a good encryption program for me? I'd just like to be able to take a single folder on my SD card and encrypt it.
TIA
I like TrueCrypt. It is open source and user friendly.
I love it too and use it on my PC but I do not think it is available for WM is it?
I don't think it is available for WM either, but you could probably encrypt a folder on your sdcard from your desktop (with your phone set to mass storage mode). I don't know if it would work, I've never tried.
I dont want to encrypt the entire thing. AFAIK, if you do and you reflash your phone, your whole sd card is toast.
IIRC you can encrypt a single folder on a flash drive using TrueCrypt, so I would think you could encrypt a single folder on your sdcard. Perhaps you could create and encrypt a folder on your desktop and move it to your sdcard.
As far as flashing a ROM wiping out your sdcard, I hope that isn't the case.
Thanks for that but it wont help when I'm traveling and need access to the info.
No problem. I hope you find a solution for your needs.

[Q] Please Help! Accidentally deleted the entire My Pictures Folder - trips to India

Please Help! Accidentally deleted the entire My Pictures Folder - trips to India, etc!
& while I can find ways to recover data from the card I can not find how to recover files & folders from the machines memory
It is an HTC HD2
Any Ideas Please ??
All & any help Most gratefully received
Thanks in Advance
M
Once it's gone, it is gone. Unless it exists somewhere else, it is gone.
ouch, that really hurts... there should be a way to undelete from the phone's memory. if there is one, i hope you find it.
There is still hope...
Hi, don't just assume that once you've deleted it, it's gone. There is still hope for your data. You see, when you delete something it doesn't actually get removed, the OS just "hypnotizes" itself into forgetting the data is there. Over time the data will become overwritten (depending on how much you used the sdcard your pictures were on).
There are special programs designed to recover deleted files, I recommend Recuva by Piriform (same guys who make CCleaner).
http://www.piriform.com/recuva
Just point it to your sdcard and scan. Again, depending on how much you've used your device they may either be completely gone or easily recoverable.
Good luck
JoonatanO said:
Hi, don't just assume that once you've deleted it, it's gone. There is still hope for your data. You see, when you delete something it doesn't actually get removed, the OS just "hypnotizes" itself into forgetting the data is there. Over time the data will become overwritten (depending on how much you used the sdcard your pictures were on).
There are special programs designed to recover deleted files, I recommend Recuva by Piriform (same guys who make CCleaner).
http://www.piriform.com/recuva
Just point it to your sdcard and scan. Again, depending on how much you've used your device they may either be completely gone or easily recoverable.
Good luck
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He is talking about the phone memory
...while I can find ways to recover data from the card I can not find how to recover files & folders from the machines memory
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you could try one of the mem card recovery programs and connect in active sync mode, might see internal memory as a drive ? ...
worth a try !
knobbyhtccruise said:
you could try one of the mem card recovery programs and connect in active sync mode, might see internal memory as a drive ? ...
worth a try !
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I second knobbyhtccruise's suggestion. Dont use any apps that may write to your phone memory. Just try ActiveSync method and use this software i have attached below.
Unzip the file to desktop. Connect ur HD2 via AS.
Run Restoration.exe and in Drive see if you can access phone memory. Goodluck
No data recovery software can access the phone memory of HTC or else other smart phone etc
Can't be saved dude. No go dude. No go.
ayyu3m said:
I second knobbyhtccruise's suggestion. Dont use any apps that may write to your phone memory. Just try ActiveSync method and use this software i have attached below.
Unzip the file to desktop. Connect ur HD2 via AS.
Run Restoration.exe and in Drive see if you can access phone memory. Goodluck
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Try http://www.datarecovery.com/. It helped me. It's not free, but you can try if it finds your files for free. Does it find it, you have to buy it to be able to save the files. Worth a try! Good luck, man!
Firs of all, many thanks to all the respondents,
perhaps someone would be kind enough to help me enhance my understanding?
As far as I know a file system allocates space for files & directories, when it is told to delete something it does not do that but instead merely marks the space as available by setting a bit / flag on that entry. This being why it is imperative NOT to write to the file system in the case of an accidental deletion & a recovery program merely reverses the process to mark the space from available to unavailable & displays the entry again
in some expert hands even a hex editor can be used to undelete / recover data
to my limited knowledge both the internal memory & the sd card use a fat32 file system
given the above, I do not understand what is the difference & why data can be recovered from the sd card but not from the main memory. Perhaps someone more qualified can set me straight please?
A random thought - would there be any use setting up a dual boot to android & would that help / harm my case - thought being that there may be more tools available?
once again TIA
M
once a file is deleted, the space is marked as resuable. Therefore, stop using the device because every of your activity may be destorying (overwriting) your deleted data beyond recovery.
SD is recoverable because you can mount it to a PC using a card reader, or even using the HD2 directly. Then most software can read the storage and try to recover. Phone member is presented to the PC as a connected device and it may not be possible for other PC software to access it like a storage device. If you can find a tool that copies the whole 476MB (or whatever) memory to somewhere else (PC hard disk, SD card, any passive storage that is not a phone), then those software will probably to able to handle it.
here is a program that can undelete files from external and internal storage. good luck.
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.hexamob.hexamobrecoverypro
AthenaLod said:
here is a program that can undelete files from external and internal storage. good luck.
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.hexamob.hexamobrecoverypro
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I assume it might help if he has NAND android, otherwise it won't.
did some searching and found two programs that may or may not help on WinMo
Wizcode Unformat Mobile
Wizcode Undelete Mobile
not sure if they can access phone storage. but you can try. hopefully, you haven't fiddled much with your phone since then. it's been about two months.
I believe Wizcode undelete mobile works on storage card only.
alex fung said:
I believe Wizcode undelete mobile works on storage card only.
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so I think the only hope is by sending it to a service center hoping they have tools to mount device memory as removable device, and tools to recover deleted files.
and next time, save your photos on your SD.
if you know anyone with a copy of your photos, now is the time to start calling friends.

[Q] Recover defect SD-Card (Micro) accessing nand flash direct?

Situation:
- My HD2 with WP7(7004) no longer recognize my micro sd-card. I know the best friend is the the backup, but some new picture are not included in the last backup.
- Accessing the micro with a adapter and pc failed. win7 aborting after a while and no drive appears.
- I think the controller on the sd-card is defect. So no accessing with recovery tools.
Idea:
- After some time and investigation i found a special service. The reason for defect cards are to 80% defect controller not memory. They offer to read the nand flash with a direct interface to the chip.
- I Know the sd-card(my) is encrypted, and as far as i know, the key is saved on the HD2 after first install with the sd-card or factory reset.
Behavior:
- Sporadically my HD2 reboots, sometime 2-3 times, but then it boots correctly with saved settings.
Question:
- Whats your opinion to rescue the raw data this way, make a copy to a not defect card and accessing with the HD2 and the key in it.
Of course any other suggestions are welcome.
digital-native said:
Situation:
- My HD2 with WP7(7004) no longer recognize my micro sd-card. I know the best friend is the the backup, but some new picture are not included in the last backup.
- Accessing the micro with a adapter and pc failed. win7 aborting after a while and no drive appears.
- I think the controller on the sd-card is defect. So no accessing with recovery tools.
Idea:
- After some time and investigation i found a special service. The reason for defect cards are to 80% defect controller not memory. They offer to read the nand flash with a direct interface to the chip.
- I Know the sd-card(my) is encrypted, and as far as i know, the key is saved on the HD2 after first install with the sd-card or factory reset.
Behavior:
- Sporadically my HD2 reboots, sometime 2-3 times, but then it boots correctly with saved settings.
Question:
- Whats your opinion to rescue the raw data this way, make a copy to a not defect card and accessing with the HD2 and the key in it.
Of course any other suggestions are welcome.
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Are you sure that your photos weren't uploaded to skydrive?
Check using pc and log-in to skydrive using your windows live id
Hi Robbie,
no way, because SkyDrive was not activated. I have made some videos that were to large for my 500 mb volume rate.
dn
Its going to be difficult to copy the card because of the encryption you mentioned.
Its difficult enough to format it! Most OS don't recognise it.
The link you mentioned would only return to you a load of stuff.
Not sure what you can do, sorry.

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