So How is the Video Playback? - Touch Diamond2, Pure General

I've been using the TD2 for almost a week now. Really really happy with it,but I haven't tested any videos yet,though it was one of my major priorities behind buying this phone. Actually I am bit concerned after some reviews of the phone by some websites,they stated the Video playback is not up to the mark(Like-Skipped frames,Sound cracking etc.). If this is true then the large 3.2' screen will make no sense and I would be very SAD. So please vote and input your comments.
BTW-By Video I mean AVI files(either .xvid or .divx encoded) for PC playback(VGA or above quality),please don't say anything about .mp4,3gp and Conversion of videos. Maybe CorePlayer is the option,I don't have it as it's not free.
Thanks in advance.

IME the device on its own barely plays any video formats and doesn't even play them so well. I bought CorePlayer and it plays most things and quite well too. Sometimes you just have to pay for stuff. Shame the UI is a bit ropey though.

convert the video first to smaller resolution..it will be better..and yes coreplayer is my favourite player too..

Without saying anything about certain formats we've been asked not to mention , I have converted some films (they had to be converted, they were DVDs to start with!) and have got to a place where I'm happy, extremely, very slight lip-sync issue, but watchable, and on the 3.2 screen they look great, no issues with Video, just need to get the Audio-Video sync sorted.
BTW-Haven't used an existing files, converted films specifically for TD2 (the ones converted for my XDA Orbit were a bit on the small size due to the screen size.
PS Only use HTC Album to view, WMP doesn't seem to want to play anything I give to it.

I have excellent quality with PocketDivxEncoder to make my movie smaller.
On my TD2/Topaz i use CorePlayer because it's WideScreen.
TCPMP won't run on my phone and WMP doesn't have the codecs.

Ok,so I got one thing-A conversion is a must for higher qualities. But I will not see high qualities/resolution on my TD2,I'll rather choose my 22" HD Dell monitor for that,but I thought I atleast can watch the DVD rips(the popular xvid encoded <=700mb)on my TD2 by Core player or else when I am on the go..haven't had a clear idea about it..anyways thnx for voting.

ithehappy said:
Ok,so I got one thing-A conversion is a must for higher qualities. But I will not see high qualities/resolution on my TD2,I'll rather choose my 22" HD Dell monitor for that,but I thought I atleast can watch the DVD rips(the popular xvid encoded <=700mb)on my TD2 by Core player or else when I am on the go..haven't had a clear idea about it..anyways thnx for voting.
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I'm guessing you are looking for a bit more clear answer, so I will try to give you one. The answer is - YES, you can easily watch DVD rips WITHOUT any conversion, on the go, by Coreplayer of course To me personally, any conversion at all is a misunderstanding. Sure, a phone isnt a PC, but if I pay so much for it, I demand that it can handle unconverted videos. And Topaz really does that very well As an example, I can tell you that I watch a lot of my favourite TV shows and series on the go without any compression, I just download my show (which has a resolution practially the same as DVD) and put it on my SD card. As far as You do not want to watch videos with more than 700x... resolution, you dont even have to convert anything. All in all, I'm very satisfied with my Topaz's video playback capabilities

oh and to be even more clear - all <=700MB xvid encoded movies running superb smoothly, WITHOUT any compression

jgal said:
I'm guessing you are looking for a bit more clear answer, so I will try to give you one. The answer is - YES, you can easily watch DVD rips WITHOUT any conversion, on the go, by Coreplayer of course To me personally, any conversion at all is a misunderstanding. Sure, a phone isnt a PC, but if I pay so much for it, I demand that it can handle unconverted videos. And Topaz really does that very well As an example, I can tell you that I watch a lot of my favourite TV shows and series on the go without any compression, I just download my show (which has a resolution practially the same as DVD) and put it on my SD card. As far as You do not want to watch videos with more than 700x... resolution, you dont even have to convert anything. All in all, I'm very satisfied with my Topaz's video playback capabilities
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Just to be clear, the ripped DVD can't just be a standard file, it has to have been converted first, even if that conversion keeps the resolution and size intact, even Coreplayer can't play vob files.

Coreplayer also doesn't support AC3 audio which is a huge limitation and disappointment This means that any video files with DD are no go.

watched the pilot of Caprica. The file was downloaded for PC viewing. was a Xvid encoded .avi file resoloution 624 x 352 and encoded with 23 fps with a data rate of 133 Kbps (It says 133kbps for audio as well, so I assume that is the total ofr both streams).
Played perfectly on Core player

Thank you guys for voting and commenting. I decided to test the topic by myself. And I am so unlucky to say that I got stunned by it. I copied a .xvid encoded .avi music video file(71mb),24fps,640*352 from my Desktop Pc to the TD2,played it with the CorePlayer 1.30(6213) and the result was TERRIBLE. It just didn't play anything at all. The sound was there but the video lagged all the way. So,what to do now? Huh,I decied that's it,as my major priority was watching video without any conversion has failed and failed so badly,so I am selling it. But except all this I liked it.
Thank you guys,bye.

I think 1.3.2 build 6909 is the current release so maybe the version you are using is a bit old. It should play xVid avis no problem at that resolution. You could alos try the free TCMP from which coreplayer was derived. http://picard.exceed.hu/tcpmp/test/

ithehappy said:
Thank you guys for voting and commenting. I decided to test the topic by myself. And I am so unlucky to say that I got stunned by it. I copied a .xvid encoded .avi music video file(71mb),24fps,640*352 from my Desktop Pc to the TD2,played it with the CorePlayer 1.30(6213) and the result was TERRIBLE. It just didn't play anything at all. The sound was there but the video lagged all the way. So,what to do now? Huh,I decied that's it,as my major priority was watching video without any conversion has failed and failed so badly,so I am selling it. But except all this I liked it.
Thank you guys,bye.
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What was the data rate? My version of Core is older (1.25) and the same res file flew for me. It was a 700MB file for 90 odd minutes of video.

I tried two videos(music),here are the detail:
The First one,(a Taylor Swift video),72mb
The details from my PC- Time-4 mins 37 secs,Resolution 640*352,Audio format-Lame MP3,Audio Bit rate-192kbps and Video Frame rate-23fps/sec, Video Date rate-2099kbps, Video Sample size-24bits, Video compression-FFDS
Now when I tried to play that by Core Player 1.30 on my TD2,it didn't run at all,
Now the details of the Video by Core Player-
Video- AVC aka H.264,Codec-Core AVC and I played it for first 30 seconds and it played 67 frames and Dropped 985 frames,the rate was 1.527
Now the second music video,98.6mb
Resolution-512*384,Runtime-18 mins 57 seconds, Frame rate-23fps/sec,Data rate-710kbps,Video sample size-24bits,Video compression-XVID
Now Core player played this video well,very well infact,the Details by Core player,
Video-MPEG4,Codec-Core ASP,I watched it for first 6 mins and it played 744 frames and dropped 7,Played FPS-23.88
Thanks

I'm guessing that You copied your file to the memory card. If so, did You install SDTuneUp drivers? It looks like they are a must have.

Sir,I don't know what is SD tune up driver and where to install from. BTW-I don't have a memory card on my TD2,it didn't come out of the box and so lazy to buy a seperate one.

hi, I am wondering how the performance is watching football (soccer) highlights from youtube or www.footytube.com , does anyone have any ideas? I have tried this on sony Ericsson w995 and the ball is invisible :s

I know it has been mentioned before but converting using he HTC Touch HD ‘Encoder’ program works well using HTC Album playback on my stock ROM TD2 playing back from the SD Card.
I understand that some of you are resistant to converting files and do not want to go this route but I thought it might help some of those reading this thread that smooth HQ playback from the SD card is absolutely possible without paying any money if you spend the time converting files on a PC (or Mac).
Tony

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Playing video formats?

The Blackstone is the first smart/windows mobile phone i have had so after recieving my phone i tried some of my video files but (as i expected) windows media wudn't play them, i have seen on other threads that alot of people mention Core Player 1.2.5 and wondered if anyone could give answer me a few quick questions:
1. Does Core Player play most formats (im trying to play x264.mp4 and dixv .avi)
2. Where can i find Core Player?
3. is it a free program? if not how much is it in GBP?
Go to www.coreplayer.com and see for yourself. I think on their homepage they anwser pretty much all your questions.
Ascenca
Thanks - Don't know why didn't find their site!
I had this problem - Core Player 1.2.5 plays all files perfectly on the HD - commuting will never be the same again...
Which version do i need?
CorePlayer Mobile For PocketPC / Windows Mobile
CorePlayer Mobile for SmartPhone
I assume its the SmartPhone version?
This is the version you need: https://www.mobihand.com/cart1.asp?posid=130&pid=8905
(mobile/WM)
HD is a PocketPC
working
Coreplayer 2,5 works perfectly.The PocketPc version the smartphone one is for devices without touchscreen.
Its a commercial software.
Ideal is to use the Qtv display as video output.
I tried different encoded format and the best result is encode the avi files with following attributes:
dimension 640*480
Bitrate between 700 and 750
Framerate 25fps
Audio MP3
Stereo 128kps
Frecuency 44100 Hz.
You can use a higher bitrate till 1200 , but the video doen't play always very smootly then
I tried a couple widescreen (960x540) files in different formats (wmv, mov, avi) with coreplayer 2.5, and none of them would play anywhere near smoothly. the mov played with about 1.5 fps, the wmv with about 5 fps und the avi with something like 7 fps. do any of the numerous settings in coreplayer need to be changed or is the device simply not powerful enough for full native resolution video playback?
just tried some more videos, this time a 1 MBit/s 480x270 wmv file, and even that couldn't be played in any useful way:
played frames: 85
dropped: 447
did you change anything in the core player settings to achieve proper playback?
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I tried a couple widescreen (960x540) files in different formats (wmv, mov, avi) with coreplayer 2.5, and none of them would play anywhere near smoothly. the mov played with about 1.5 fps, the wmv with about 5 fps und the avi with something like 7 fps. do any of the numerous settings in coreplayer need to be changed or is the device simply not powerful enough for full native resolution video playback?
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Firstly, the issue with the video files comes from the fact that they're larger than the resolution of the screen. (your video=960x540, HD=800x460) This means that as well as decoding and playing the video, it also has to scale the video down to it's resolution. This is why it's stuttering. Full native resolution video playback is 800x640 which, incidentally, is the native resolution of DVDs, so if DVD rips have been encoded properly, should not need resizing or re-encoding to play on the HD. (feel free to be skeptical of this, I don't own a HD yet so can't confirm this)
The 1Mbps file possibly wasn't playing properly for that exact reason, it was 1Mbps. As BerreZ states, the highest bitrate to get good playback is 750Kbp
Thanks, got CorePlayer up and running now works like a dream!
I'm waiting for funds to clear so i can finally order one of these bad boys. I'm not too demanding when it comes to video playback on the phone. 700KBPS is the standard encoding of dvd rips isn't it? like, your traditional torrent movie file.So it looks like we can play them on the HD then using coreplayer? I'm not to concerned about HD quality playback and i've been using an XDA2i for 5 years, mainly for clips and such when bored at the bus station .
Maybe with a higher capacity card I might throw a movie or two on there
....IB a n e
BANE said:
I'm waiting for funds to clear so i can finally order one of these bad boys. I'm not too demanding when it comes to video playback on the phone. 700KBPS is the standard encoding of dvd rips isn't it? like, your traditional torrent movie file.So it looks like we can play them on the HD then using coreplayer? I'm not to concerned about HD quality playback and i've been using an XDA2i for 5 years, mainly for clips and such when bored at the bus station .
Maybe with a higher capacity card I might throw a movie or two on there
....IB a n e
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a)Native DVD resolution is not 800x640
b)700Kbps is not the "Standard Encoding" for DVD rips.
bitrate will depend on the size of the encode, the length of the movie.
Apologies, my mistake.
...Ib a n e
Urgh -it's payware. Another cost.
Is there a decent free avi/media player?
One time, I got a cab, but lost it, with some codecs to play divx and other on the Media player. Does anyone knows something like that??
I just purchased CorePlayer. It gave me v1.3.6 not 2.5. Anyway I have tried a divx and avi film. With both I just saw a green haze for a bit and I needed to soft reset the device to recover.
I downloaded the cab not exe and installed it directly onto the device. My films are on storage.
I get a "Copy & Convert" dialogue box with "Convertion (None)" and it seems to do nothing for a while but it does seem to copy the file across ok. What that means is I can see it in explorer. That said it seems to take several runs at it and the bars never go beyond three or so.
Have I just got the wrong resolution?
Any ideas?

[TUT]PLayback by using WMP on Touch HD

Lots of people still confused and still looking for a solution, I believe.
In the next 5 mins tutorial, you will squeeze the best out of a good old WMP by doing the following;
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WIth this method, you will get much better quality MP4 video compare to FLV video which you need to open with CorePlayer.
1. First, Install the SD TuneUp.
Code:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=130286&d=1226827760
Credit: tnyynt
2. Use "AimerSoft Video Converter"
Code:
http://www.aimersoft.com/video-converter.html
Why?
Some says "Super Converter" is the best bcuz of its performance and its free but here come the new champion, AimerSoft Video Converter.
Let me explain..
Code:
With WMP u need to convert the file in H.264 for the best result.
So, "Super" can do that with 80-90% output quality after converted.
"AimerSoft" will do it with 97-100% output quality after converted.
In conclusion, if u convert 720p, 30 mins length video by "Super" u will more likely to see frame dropping in every 10 min.
With "AimerSoft", u may see it once in a whole clip or not at all.
3. Fire up "AimerSoft" then add your video clip.
4. At "Profile" drop down menu choose "MPEG-4 Movie (*.mp4)"
5. Click "Setting" at the right hand side and adjust as the following;
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Resolution: 800*480 (You can type it in if u cant find it)
Frame Rate: 23.97 FPS
Encoder: H.264
Bit Rate: 1500 kbps (Trust me, WMP can handle this bit rate)
**Bit Rate Tip**:
Bit rate is the the most tricky part of converting process so u have to b careful on how u choose a proper bit rate.
Here's how u do it;
If the video has a native resolution [COLOR="Red"]lesser[/COLOR] than 800*480 u can go for [COLOR="Red"]1500 kbps[/COLOR].
If the video has a native resolution [COLOR="Red"]greater[/COLOR] than 800*480 u must choose [COLOR="Red"]900 kbps[/COLOR].
Audio: 44100 Hz 2 Channels Stereo
Encoder: AAC
Bit Rate 128 kbps
6. Click "save As", name "WMP for Touch HD" for next use. (You can name the profile as anything u like)
7. Choose your video output folder.
8. Click start and chill out. ^^
The Pros:
- You dont have to pay for CorePlayer.
- You get much much sharper quality video and very minimum frame dropping. (Download the sample files I provide below and judge for yourself)
- Less hassle and user friendly.
- With "AimerSoft", when u set resolution to 800*480, the bigger resolution will be re-sized, the smaller resolution video will remain as the original but "AimerSoft" will automatically put a frame around the clip so the video will maintain 16:9 aspect ratio.
The Cons:
- You got to pay for "AimerSoft" instead. lolz (About the same price)
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This is the sample video converted by AimerSoft useing the exact setting as I describe above.
Code:
http://rapidshare.com/files/169145053/Empire_Of_The_Sun_-_Walking_On_A_Dream.mp4
Note: You may put this clip into your SD Card and play with WMP straight away.
Another sample video shot from Touch Diamond showing 3 clips with WMP.
Code:
http://rapidshare.com/files/169196260/VIDEO_005.mp4
Note: This file is for playing with VLC Media Player on PC only and you will have no sound. Sorry about that >_<
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NOTE: I am not a "AimerSoft" representative by any mean.
I am not paid by "AimorSoft" to convince you to buy their product in any way.
I am just a sick and bored man who want to relax by watching a good quality video clips on the phone when im at workP) or traveling and wanted to share the information to people who looking for the solution.
Thank you everybody who help and contribute to this forum especially "tnyynt".
Please give credit to me if you want to spread out this tutorial anywhere else.
Thank You and Enjoy watching!
Vosszaa
Code:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=446366
You can view the original post by "tnyynt" here.
Here you go. I made another sample video just to prove my concept.
In this video I use the 77Mb file size, 720p trailer of "The Day The Earth Stood Still" downloaded directly from Apple Trailer with 1280*554 native resolution with top and bottom black boarder.
Code:
http://rapidshare.com/files/169445296/earthstoodstill_720p_1500kbps.mp4
Details: Converted by [COLOR="Red"]AimerSoft[/COLOR], [COLOR="Red"]800*480[/COLOR] resolution, [COLOR="Red"]1500 kbps[/COLOR], 23.976 fps, H.264 in MP4 format.
You may put this video on to your SD card and play with WMP straight away.
Note: As u can see there is a lag at the beginning and a little towards the end of the movie which i believe its cause by video buffering and data transfer rate of SD Card.
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http://rapidshare.com/files/169449637/earthstoodstill_720p_900kbps.mp4
This is the same video but converted with [COLOR="Red"]900 kbps[/COLOR] to reduce lag which indeed improve about 10%.
And with the same file but converted in FLV format and need to play with CorePlayer.
Code:
http://rapidshare.com/files/169445836/earthstoodstill-tlre_720p.mov.FLV
Details: Converted by [COLOR="Red"]SuperConverter[/COLOR], [COLOR="Red"]560*304[/COLOR] resolution, [COLOR="Red"]1200 kbps[/COLOR], 23.976 fps (best setting for CorePlayer as suggested by "tnyynt")
Note: I have to admit that the frame rate is very smooth but really lack in details and sharpness of the video.
Conclusion:
With MP4 format by AimerSoft I have a crisp sharp video but a little suffer from frame dropping.
With FLV format by SuperConverter I have a very smooth frame rate but lag in details and sharpness.
If u ask me, i prefer to suffer a little frame drop to have a very crisp clear and sharp picture rather than smooth frame rate.
Enuff for bla bla bla.. just download and try for yourself.
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Another 1500kbps video I converted by AimerSoft.
Code:
http://rapidshare.com/files/174535773/Jojo_-_How_To_Touch_A_Girl.mp4
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Thank you very much for this useful Tut!! I'll try this out, for sure^^ and really thank you, a very clear, step by step tutorial for perfect video converting, thats great!!! Greez, cad^^
This is a great forum and I truly appreciate the selfless contributions of the many members, like you. Normally, I can get everything I need just by searching the forum. However, I have a problem and I am not sure if it is unique to me. I can’t get wmp to read mp4 files, even though they were created in the manner you just described. My mp4 files are readable using the native player. Any ideas why wmp won't read them?
willwwa said:
This is a great forum and I truly appreciate the selfless contributions of the many members, like you. Normally, I can get everything I need just by searching the forum. However, I have a problem and I am not sure if it is unique to me. I can’t get wmp to read mp4 files, even though they were created in the manner you just described. My mp4 files are readable using the native player. Any ideas why wmp won't read them?
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WMP wont play your converted mp4 file or it wont play any mp4 files at all?
If WMP dont play just the converted file mayb its the converting process issue.
Just try download the sample video i provided. let c if it play.
If not, i guess its the WMP issue.. u need to reinstall WMP mayb.
What software u use to convert the video? Super or AimerSoft?
vosszaa said:
WMP wont play your converted mp4 file or it wont play any mp4 files at all?
If WMP dont play just the converted file mayb its the converting process issue.
Just try download the sample video i provided. let c if it play.
If not, i guess its the WMP issue.. u need to reinstall WMP mayb.
What software u use to convert the video? Super or AimerSoft?
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I used Aimersoft to convert the video. I finally got it to play. I had to download an H264 codec from an obscure site. Now, the video plays fantastically. I think WMP may have gotten corrupted from my trying out so many different brands of media players.
Again, thanks for the fix. Keep up the good work.
No problem mate. Glad that my TUT help sumbody.
I also noticed that MP4 with H.264 CABAC profile ON dosn't work with WMP
you have to be sure to turn it off to BaseLine
These options are in Super , don't know if VDO has something similar
by the way its in the other thread too,
but you can have a look at the quality using SUPER with this video clip
I don't have the Aimersoft to test the quality but SUPER does a good job converting to MP4,
but it can take several hours for a 8 Gb 1080 file
CABAC profile is set to off by default so that's why i didnt mention about that.
About comparing Super and AimerSoft i dont want to say much cuz i dont wanna course any flame war here and I know lots of people use Super too. (I have both anyway)
NOTE: I recommend AimerSoft Suite cuz it do a lot more than just a converter.
So, what i mainly do with my HD is to watch Music Video and Movie Trailers just to show my friends at work. And since MV and Trailers both are not a huge file so what i normally do is convert the same files with both Super and AimerSoft then play it and compare which one is better to keep.
I know mayb its a waste of time but thats the way i do. ^^
NOTE: It turns out, personally, AimerSoft beats Super by 9:1
NOTE 2: With Step Up 2 movie(its divx dvd-rip 780mb convert done in 1hr 20mins) I just pick AimerSoft to do the job and it was fine like i said apart from the laggy at first 2-3 mins tho.
willwwa said:
I used Aimersoft to convert the video. I finally got it to play. I had to download an H264 codec from an obscure site. Now, the video plays fantastically. I think WMP may have gotten corrupted from my trying out so many different brands of media players.
Again, thanks for the fix. Keep up the good work.
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Don't suppose you can remember where you got that codec? I have the same issue and have been googling for ages without any luck, must be getting late
Many thanks
U can get K-lite codec pack easily by google it, after u install that i recommend u to install CoreAVC pack as well. It improve H.264 and it comes with Haali Media Splitter too.
NOTE: PM me if u cant find them.
Urrrgh, don't use codec packs, they're notorious for screwing up machines.
i have codec pack install in my pc and it doesnt screw anything tho.
can u xplain how it screw your machine?
thank god for multicore processing or this would pretty much make the computer useless for however long it took for the conversion.
vosszaa said:
U can get K-lite codec pack easily by google it, after u install that i recommend u to install CoreAVC pack as well. It improve H.264 and it comes with Haali Media Splitter too.
NOTE: PM me if u cant find them.
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Thanks for the response. I think I may have got my wires crossed here. I can get the MP4 to play on WMP on my PC but your sample "Empire_Of_The_Sun_-_Walking_On_A_Dream.mp4" wont play on my HD. It will only open in Album or Coreplayer (although it doesn't play properly). I thought there was an additional codec to get my HD to play the file
This is strange, maybe I will need to do a hard reset already??? No doubt the first of many
Now that is really weird.
Do u have any error log/msg pop up when u try to play it?
Any strange thing happen at all?(such as loading icon appear)
Or its just nothing with black screen?
Q. "I thought there was an additional codec to get my HD to play the file."
A. I dont think u need to install any additional codec to your HD. (I didnt install any extra.)
Code:
Keep this a try >> http://rapidshare.com/files/171066422/h264.cab << Install it and let c if it play. if it doesnt, just uninstall it and do a hard reset.
Tell me if it works.
Vosszaa
The message I get from WMP is "Cannot play this file" andf thats it??? I will give that cab a spin and report back.
I tried a Madonna 4 Minutes MP4 video thats been posted on the forum to play on WMP as well and I get the same.
Just had a thought, are people syncing the files to their phones using WMP on the PC??? I am just copying the videos to my SD card manually. Does that make a difference??
I've never really used WMP on any of my WM devices, I've only used Beta Player, TCPMP or Coreplayer. Hopefully Coreplayer will have a release soon with full support for the HD chipset then none of this conversion will be necessary.
I just copy and paste by using Windows Explorer. It make no difference.
kurtfhouse said:
Don't suppose you can remember where you got that codec? I have the same issue and have been googling for ages without any luck, must be getting late
Many thanks
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I found a cab on the htcdriver.com site. Here is the download link:
www.htcdriver.com/downloads/install/h264codecHTCdriver.com.cab
O.k tried the CAB's still no joy. Will get all my must have CAB's together either tonight or tomorrow and do a hard reset. Then report back.
Would have done it already but the lurgy is making around my home town and I feel like death!

play movies on xperia without conversion!!

hi
i would just like to know that is there a difference with encoding a movie before watching it on the xperia because i have tried many programs and to be honest are probably a waste of time
with the new coreplayer program, just download a movie from the internet and move it over to the xperia and use coreplayer to watch it, plays perfectly, tried with many movies, no problems, the only waiting time i do i downloading the movie and moving it over
or am i missing something by not converting it??
I don't guess your movies are playing smooth in fullscreen @ very good quality.
umm nope, they perfectly fine as if i was watching the film on the pc , i have 5 movies on my xperia 700mb+ and work to perfection, never gonna use conversion again, waste of time!!!!!
try it out, download the latest coreplayer and play any downloaded movie, u'll be quite suprised!! , full screen playback.. beautiful !!
Is this CorePlayer commercial ?
Yeah it is the best player for non-converted movies. But normal 1CD movie plays at 80-90%, movies with higher bitrate even slower.
I know people who call that watchable, or even perfect. I'm not one of those.
" Is this CorePlayer commercial ?"
yes
their free media program is tcpmp player
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" Is this CorePlayer commercial ?"
yes
their free media program is tcpmp player
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Which - by the way - doesn't get updated anymore. (last time I checked, at least)
thats because the movies you download are already converted. most people who are doing the encoding are converting their dvd to a format that the xperia can play.
vegeta2007 said:
hi
i would just like to know that is there a difference with encoding a movie before watching it on the xperia because i have tried many programs and to be honest are probably a waste of time
with the new coreplayer program, just download a movie from the internet and move it over to the xperia and use coreplayer to watch it, plays perfectly, tried with many movies, no problems, the only waiting time i do i downloading the movie and moving it over
or am i missing something by not converting it??
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any downloaded avi file works on coreplaying including the hd ones
avi is not a real format though it's a container for other formats
like divX or xvid or many others ranging from good to poor codecs
but coreplayer seem to play every one I tried
vegeta2007 said:
with the new coreplayer program, just download a movie from the internet and move it over to the xperia and use coreplayer to watch it, plays perfectly, tried with many movies, no problems, the only waiting time i do i downloading the movie and moving it over
or am i missing something by not converting it??
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hi.
I wouldn't call it perfect, but it is sooo damn near to it. I've just tested two movies and even with lots of action going on coreplayer dropped only few frames (although it was clearly visible). when I've changed quality to medium under preferences/video all the playback is butter smooth and lil' bit lowered quality is still better than waiting for ages to convert a video. btw: I am using qtv it tytn 2 comp. mode. I am so happy that I've bought this app. waiting for next releases..
^x2 but with TCPMP. it would chop out .avi files every 4 secs at high quality (not sure if it was divx or xvid) but if you change the video driver from DirectDraw to Raw FrameBuffer and change the quality from Normal to Low, it plays really smooth without losing too much quality.
... but still - with coreplayer qtv You get full speed almost all the time. high quality ofcourse... it is a shame really, that there is no demo for coreplayer so more people could actualy try it.

Video Transcoding Tips?

I'm planning to transcode some video to watch on my universal via SD card, the presets on WinFF (Win32 wrapper to FFMpeg) are numerous but going to try 3GP @ 320x240x15fps, anyone else achieved this and if so what rates/sizes/formats did you use?
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Transcoding ?? Why would you need it ? Unless the videos are HD, the Universal has the power to play them fine (most of them very fine ). If the space is your problem, I suggest a bigger SD-card.
I think it's a waste of time those ~30 minutes needed for conversion of a movie that lasts @ 90 min; and I'm pretty sure that you'll delete the movie after you'll watch it.
PS: for best results use TCPMP (freeware) or Core Player (not freeware). The Media Player is much slower and it supports few codecs.
Transcoding
I agree
There is no need for this as the UNI has all the power needed to play films with ease. If space is an issue google for DVD Catalyst. It's freeware and can reduce the size of DVD's down to about 275Mb.
Then just play them through the TCPMP as suggested by GNotten as this is far superior
I USE MKV videos with coreplayers .... they save so much space compared to other video formats and the video quality is far better than other format... one movie is around 250~300 mb...
Size and wether or not it could handle it were my main issues. Dont have a problem kicking off a transcode ffmpeg job and wandering off elsewhere while it's busy but i'll give a raw video a go and see how i get on
cycloid said:
Size and wether or not it could handle it were my main issues. Dont have a problem kicking off a transcode ffmpeg job and wandering off elsewhere while it's busy but i'll give a raw video a go and see how i get on
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well there are really great video players like TCPMP and CorePlayer with which i have to never convert any video... just dran ang drop it from computer to SD and it runs flawlwssly... except rmv... which WMP can play after tweaking but can not fast forwar... except that no problems at all not size nor video format...
Cheers
Rajiv

What program is used to play Transformer movies?

What program is used to play the Transformer movies? It does not have much options like CorePlayer but it did a good job of playing the Transformer movies.
Also, if I want to use it to play other movies that I encode using this same player, where do I put these new movies. Do I put it in the folder called "Transformers" in the SD card? But then how do the Transformer movies have their own icon? Still trying to figure this out.
It's the HTC video player, which is basically a reskinned Windows Media Player.
The Transformers icon is there because the TMoUS HD2 ships with a launcher app (which is basically just a list of two links, tapping on them opens the file).
The launcher app is not customizable, though it should be pretty trivial to build something similar.
Which would be a better player? The default one on the HD2 or CorePlayer (the latest version). I know that CorePlayer is not free but I just like to know which one performs better. CorePlayer can play .mkv files so that is a good advantage.
The HTC player (WMP) works well for some file types. I have CorePlayer installed for any odd media types, but the UI is pretty poor. Also give TCPMP a shot (it's the evolution of the open-source predecessor of CorePlayer, and now it has a new touch-friendly UI too).
Though to be honest I've personally sort of given up on high-quality video playback on the HD2-- the performance is just so inconsistent. Even the Transformers movies it comes with (which I've since transferred to my Class 6 16GB MicroSD) don't always play smoothly and sometimes stutter or slow down when I'm demoing them, so the only safe settings are lower quality, at which point it becomes useless because I don't have time to transcode videos (that's partially the point of having such a powerful processor, but it seems WM can drag down even a 1 GHz Snapdragon).
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The HTC player (WMP) works well for some file types. I have CorePlayer installed for any odd media types, but the UI is pretty poor. Also give TCPMP a shot (it's the evolution of the open-source predecessor of CorePlayer, and now it has a new touch-friendly UI too).
Though to be honest I've personally sort of given up on high-quality video playback on the HD2-- the performance is just so inconsistent. Even the Transformers movies it comes with (which I've since transferred to my Class 6 16GB MicroSD) don't always play smoothly and often stutter or slow down when I'm demoing them, so the only safe settings are lower quality, at which point it becomes useless because I don't have time to transcode videos (that's partially the point of having such a powerful processor, but it seems WM can drag down even a 1 GHz Snapdragon).
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hmmmmm.... i dont know but transformers plays very smoothe on my hd2 and also i recommend latest TCPMP with custom setup.i also convert dvds to mp4 in my pc then sync it to my hd2 and it plays on windows mobile player and and TCPMP,but doesnt play well on my coreplayer though.
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hmmmmm.... i dont know but transformers plays very smoothe on my hd2 and also i recommend latest TCPMP with custom setup.i also convert dvds to mp4 in my pc then sync it to my hd2 and it plays on windows mobile player and and TCPMP,but doesnt play well on my coreplayer though.
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They generally work fine if I soft-reset and make sure Wifi, etc. are off and nothing else is running, but otherwise in normal operation, where I might have email open and 3G + Wifi enabled in the background, I often get less than perfect playback. Usually still watchable, but hardly impressive (and definitely not something I'd show to iPhone 3GS-toting friends, who instantly notice the frame drops and such).
amb9800 said:
It's the HTC video player, which is basically a reskinned Windows Media Player.
The Transformers icon is there because the TMoUS HD2 ships with a launcher app (which is basically just a list of two links, tapping on them opens the file).
The launcher app is not customizable, though it should be pretty trivial to build something similar.
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The HTC Streaming Media Player is not a skinned WMP. Its specifically developed by HTC to take advantage of the hardware acceleration for MP4 files with the Snapdragon processor. The video performance is far superior to Coreplayer or WMP.
You can convert your video files to take advantage of this hardware acceleration by using Touch HD Encoder (search
i recently synced mp4 movies to the "transformers file" and it plays as the same high quality as the transformers does.
GHOST99K said:
i recently synced mp4 movies to the "transformers file" and it plays as the same high quality as the transformers does.
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It's pretty clear (to me, at least) that the native Video Player is the best player between the 3.
Video Player plays very limited file types, which is a minus. re-encoding video files to MP4 takes long time, and file size goes up, if you want to keep the same 'high-quality' video.
CorePlayer does a great job playing various file types, so it's easier to view movies, that's for sure.
being a video editor by trade, i have no problem re-encoding video prior to transferring media to my phone as i have the hardware and software to do so painlessly. starting from a high quality/high resolution video file and encoding down to an mp4 correctly yields in smaller filesize while retaining amazing quality. i've recently encoded a full 1080p 25min video (which started at 4gb) down to an HTC Video Player friendly video that was a hair over 300mb...with nearly no difference in quality. it plays perfectly in the native player...no problems whatsoever. i've considered doing a write up for the boards and may do so if i have time, but if you have any questions, fire away.
Transformers movies path
Hi, can someone write the exact path of the Transformers path in the SD card, so the application luncher can find them.
Thanks in advance
CorePlayer
fnuna said:
Hi, can someone write the exact path of the Transformers path in the SD card, so the application luncher can find them.
Thanks in advance
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Just make a folder named 'Transformers' on your memory card, install the files to it and it will find it.
Transformers looks wonderful, but converting is such a chore with getting all the settings right and such. Of course, I would want the exact conversion process that was used on Transformers. Coreplayer is the best for me. No converting, just play and the quality is very high. Plus, best music player and streams Youtube videos. It's the only app I've paid nearly $30.00 for and would do it again. I must have it.
ce_rob said:
being a video editor by trade, i have no problem re-encoding video prior to transferring media to my phone as i have the hardware and software to do so painlessly. starting from a high quality/high resolution video file and encoding down to an mp4 correctly yields in smaller filesize while retaining amazing quality. i've recently encoded a full 1080p 25min video (which started at 4gb) down to an HTC Video Player friendly video that was a hair over 300mb...with nearly no difference in quality. it plays perfectly in the native player...no problems whatsoever. i've considered doing a write up for the boards and may do so if i have time, but if you have any questions, fire away.
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Yes I would love to see a write up, the prob Im having is I have been trying different programs & settings for burning my dvd's to my phone and none have looked as good as the Transformers movies. Any insight would be appreciated

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