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There are now SDHC cards of 8 GB.
Universal does not support SDHC cards.
BUT... there are many adapters that transform SDHC card into a SD card.
Those are cards of SD size. You insert SDHC cards into them.
Did someone try to use 8 GB sdhc cards on Universal with such an adapter?
legion1911 said:
There are now SDHC cards of 8 GB.
Universal does not support SDHC cards.
BUT... there are many adapters that transform SDHC card into a SD card.
Those are cards of SD size. You insert SDHC cards into them.
Did someone try to use 8 GB sdhc cards on Universal with such an adapter?
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I read somewhere in the Qtek Manual that the MAXIMUM Storage Card size the Universal will support is 6GB. I am unsure what will happen if you squeeze an 8GB card into it. Maybe it would:
1. Not detect any card at all
or
2. Will only indicate a 6GB card, despite the fact that you plugged an 8GB one
Whatever the case, I am pretty sure that there is an OS workaround to this issue (if it really is an issue). Maybe WM6 has already addressed this limitation, you never know. Maybe all that you need to do is format the Storage Card to a FAT32 media format, instead of the default FAT16 most cards come in.
Given that SDHC cards are the same size as SD cards, how exactly would it fit into an adapter, and then into the uni?!?!?
There are mini SDHC cards which fit the 2.0 standard but with such adapter I think you'll just get a normal SDHC card..
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Given that SDHC cards are the same size as SD cards, how exactly would it fit into an adapter, and then into the uni?!?!?
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Yes I am interested in this as well, how can a card that is the same size as the convertor card fit!!!
I have a 4 GB SDHC card (DANE-ELEC) that I bought from Expansys and it works in nothing, no computers, cameras PDA or anything......... What are they supposed to work in?
And if there is and adapter that works please provide a link!!!!
seal said:
Yes I am interested in this as well, how can a card that is the same size as the convertor card fit!!!
I have a 4 GB SDHC card (DANE-ELEC) that I bought from Expansys and it works in nothing, no computers, cameras PDA or anything......... What are they supposed to work in?
And if there is and adapter that works please provide a link!!!!
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This is always the problem with new technologies in which the Buyer Beware principle applies. The SDHC cards are out there, but the readers for those cards are not yet as pervasive and mainstream as the previous generation ones.
This is a critical flaw in the SDHC technological evolution. They basically produced a half-solution (for me its a half-assed solution) which should have never been implemented. Here is the half-assed solution:
- SDHC readers are backwards compatible and can read traditional SD as well as SDHC cards.
- SDHC cards ARE NOT backwards compatibe with traditional SD readers and will only wrk with SDHC readers.
It is the above problem that has got consumers at large, you included, absolutely furious for not making things clearer. So - if you are an SDHC card holder, and are desperate to use it, well .... there is no choice for you to wait for the SDHC readers to be present in the devices you wish to use SDHC cards in.
legion1911 said:
There are now SDHC cards of 8 GB.
Universal does not support SDHC cards.
BUT... there are many adapters that transform SDHC card into a SD card.
Those are cards of SD size. You insert SDHC cards into them.
Did someone try to use 8 GB sdhc cards on Universal with such an adapter?
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How support for Universal ?
Guys, received a review sample of a Transcend 8GB SDHC card today and it doesn't work. The Universal just won't detect a Storage Card.
The same goes for ALL other Windows Mobile devices with SD slot at this moment.
Even readers must be special SDHC ones. I have one of those and the PC can work with the card.
This is not going to help, but I have a Transcend 4GB SDHC card, and it's hopeless too, doesn't work in the Universal.
richardlai said:
This is not going to help, but I have a Transcend 4GB SDHC card, and it's hopeless too, doesn't work in the Universal.
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For that you'll need Transcend's NORMAL 4GB SD card. They have a regular one and a 150x (access speed) one.
I have the latter and it works great for almost a year now.
great~~~~ i like this~
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Yes, TRANSCEND 4GB SD card 150x works great on my set too
Pretec 133x Cheetah 4 GB card works on my Universal, too:
http://www.dealtime.co.uk/xPF-Pretec-SHM04G
I was using it in my MDA Compact (HTC Magician) and it was working ok, too. I had to use cNET Flash format to access 4GB, though.
It would be cool if anyone could come up with a solution that would enable the Universal to read SDHC cards. I'm sure a new driver would solve this as the hardware is exactly the same.
Michal
what if you use a micro to SD adaptor with an 8 gig micro SD??
anyone ever try this?
my buddies 2 gig works in the adaptor.
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For that you'll need Transcend's NORMAL 4GB SD card. They have a regular one and a 150x (access speed) one.
I have the latter and it works great for almost a year now.
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Must reiterate this point... I have one too, and it works great, no problems at all, and fast!
Hopefully this page will answer these neverending SDHC questions... "the SD 2.0 standard in SDHC uses a different memory addressing method (sector addressing vs byte addressing[9]). 4GB SDHC cards can only work with SDHC compatible host devices."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secure_Digital_card (Scroll down to SDHC).
As far as I can tell, SDHC requires different HARDWARE to run, think it's down to the motherboard level and maybe even the slot itself.
yeah, interestingly my buddies 2 gig micro sd card is sdhc.
and it worked.. i don't actually know if there are 8 gig micro sd.. and MAN those cards are small!
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"what if you use a micro to SD adaptor with an 8 gig micro SD??
anyone ever try this?
my buddies 2 gig works in the adaptor"
What brand of micro SDHC card are you using?
It's San Disk
so im excited to get a 8gb card for my kaiser,so i pop it in and reset...goto memory>storage card NOTHING!pop it out put it in my pc and invalid process!!!WTF?!?!?!help please
Have you tried to format the card from your PC. If that doesn't work you might have a bad card. Sucks but it does happen sometimes.
Also, please remember that these portable handsets are usually not NTFS file format compatible. Be sure when you are formatting that the card is in FAT or FAT32 mode, with default block sizes and allocation.
Also, it does sound to me that your card is defective. I have never had to "format" any flash cards I have ever bought before using them, except a couple old CF cards for my SLR camera.
I got a sandisk 8gb microsdhc myself - and it works great...
(except when one morning I wake up and find out that all the data's gone, and had to recover it with GetDataBack)
I'm no SDHC expert (I've only had 1 for 2 weeks) but I ran into some problems myself...
1) If you're running Win XP on your desktop, you'll need to download the hotfix for SDHC support here (I don't use Vista so I'm not sure if it supports SDHC natively)
2) The card reader I have connected to my PC wouldn't read SDHC cards but the USB reader that came with my SanDisk 8GB MicroSDHC card does work. Make sure the adapter you're using to connect to the PC supports SDHC.
3) Sounds stupid but make sure you're pushing the card all the way into your phone. You should feel some spring pressure and then hear a 'click' as it locks into place. You push it in and it springs out to remove it. I have pretty big fingers and I didn't insert mine all the way the first time. I still have to use something small (the back end of the stylus) to fully insert my SDHC card.
---OR---
You may have a faulty card
mine work!!
s0undw4v3 said:
I got a sandisk 8gb microsdhc myself - and it works great...
(except when one morning I wake up and find out that all the data's gone, and had to recover it with GetDataBack)
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well..... i got the same MC sandick an dno problems witing...
Here is the WinXP SDHC Update if you don't want to d/l it from the MS Site.
I have a 8GB SDHC Sandisk. I formated as FAT32 winXP SP2 updated and it works perfect on my tytn II and as a pendrive (with the usb adapter included)
thanx for the help guys but i think i have a bad card...
sorry if you've got a bad card . i scored mine (8gb - sandisk microsdhc) off ebay for $45.00. works flawlessly!
I have just copied all of the contents of my 4gb card onto a new 8gb card, no problems so far, but when I put it back into my Kaiser, the volume only shows as a 4 gb, with 1 gb free, which are he details of the old card, any help greatly appreciated
thanks
Trev
I purchased a kingston 8gb class 4 microSD card for $20 from buy.com. The problem is that it doesn't show up on anything! I plugged it in my Tilt and nothing happened. I plugged it in my palm centro and nothing happened (although i wasn't expecting it to work on it in the first places lol). I plugged it in my Dell E1705 laptop which has a built-in card reader and it didn't read the card either.
Right now im assuming the the card is defective.......should i ask for a refund or should i ask for a replacement since i find the price to be really cheap...
Are there any hotfixes i should run in order to make sure the card is defective?
Please advise
The card reader in your Dell (at least from the specs I can find on it) does not support SDHC, only SD, which is why it doesn't work there. The same goes for the Palm Centro, so neither of those is a valid test of the card. As for why it doesn't work in your kaiser, who knows?
yea thats the thing thats bugging me out. I did download the hotfix from MS for my laptop which supposedly allows it to read SDHC cards but when i try to install the hotfix, it says i have a newer version already installed and there is no need for an update....So im assuming my laptop card is hdhc compatible
I have that same card in my tilt and it works fine....
I vote for a dead card. Return it.
Your card is definatly defective, some current computers do not detect SDHC cards, but if your tilt didn't detect it, then it's a whole different story.
Contact the seller for the exchange immediately
I agree with the other posts. Return the card and get an exchange or refund. I use a Kingston 8GB micro SDHC in my Tilt with no problems. I got it from NewEgg for less than $20 with a USB adapter, miniSD adapter and an SD adapter!
same card im also having...
just tried many sdhc patches...
atlast this one worked on my artemis.....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=58394&d=1195209755
hope it works for u too.....
Are you sure, that your builtin cardreader supports SDHC?? With my storage card there was an miniUSB cardreader included.
I just bought this same card over the weekend and it works fine in my Kaiser. Maybe you got a faulty card, or maybe the card needs to be formatted... Since it's new, you should probably ask for an exchange or refund.
Hi guys! I recently purchased HTC Touch Pro and A-data 8 Gb micro sdhc class 6. My laptop recognizes the card and I format it to FAT 32, so I think the card functions properly. The problem is that the device does not recognize tha card. I updated the ROM with the latest official release from the HTC site , and I was happy finally to see my card. The problem is that after restart, the card is invisible again. Can anyone help me? Maybe the storage card is faulty after all?
Possibly man, i am sure you have another card in there. Test it, if all is ok with it, then exchange your 8GB if possible....
The same thing happened to me; I don't know if it's faulty though. It is recognized at first, and of course I can transfer files from my laptop.
The same thing happened to me; I don't know if it's faulty though. It is recognized at first, and of course I can transfer files from my laptop.
incompatability with SDHC
There is a known partition problem that can destroy your Micro SD (or any other size SD) if you every stuck it into an older reader that does not support newer sizes (any HC, or even standard SDs over 1GB).
Old readers can show your newer SD-family cards, and APEAR to work, until you fill them up past the size the old reader supports.
FOR EXAMPLE:
my old laptop has a built-in SD reader. Back when I used the HTC Wizard, I bought a 2GB miniSD, and dumped files to it from my laptop. Little did I know, the built-in reader only supports SD card up to 1GB. It worked back and forth many times untilI crossed the 1GB line (filled teh SD past 1GB). Then files disapeared or could not be accessed randomly. Kindgston told me it was a known issue of some older devices (readrer/camera/etc): the older device messes up the partition, which you CANNOT fix yourself: reformatting the messed0up partition does nothing. Ship back to manufacturer to fix. Now I'm careful to avoid the built-in SD reader
So I would advise: fill your microSD up aver half-way, and see if you desktop/ laptop has problems accessing files sampled from all over the chip. If it does, this is probabaly your problem.
I think it's just the card/brand itself. The HTC site lists card brands and sizes that have been tested and proven compatible, and the A-Data 8GB isn't one of them (although the 4GB SDHC is compatible). Sandisk is the only 8GB card that's supposedly compatible, and I've pretty much found that out since I had no luck with an A-Data 8GB but the Sandisk works flawlessly.
When I first copied files over to the A-Data and put it in the phone it didn't recognize it at first, but after a couple times of taking it out and putting it back in I was able to read and write to it in TotalCommander, but when I went to play music files the player froze up solid and the card was no longer readable until I did the in and out thing again. Bottom line was there was no way that card was going to work right in the phone, but as soon as I started using a Sandisk I never had a problem.
same thing happen to me
i think the phone will not recognise class 6 memory card
i will try sandisk 8gb class 2 when i got a chance
silly phone
sdhc card problem
chasist said:
same thing happen to me
i think the phone will not recognise class 6 memory card
i will try sandisk 8gb class 2 when i got a chance
silly phone
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my touch pro two times had the same problem.The sandisk 8gb microsd HC (class2)collapsed.I can do nothing.My computer doesnt recognize the card.I cannot format it also.Does anybody can help me .What can i do.Thanks.
Card doesn't work in my Fuze. Oh well, I'll find another use for it.
Wierd.... I have two Adata 8GB cards, one works in the Touch Pro, the other doesn't. Both of them work in my Sharp EM One.
hi ive been looking like crazy to fix this problem but this seems to be the only post close to it.
i recently got a transcend class 6 4gb micro sdhc (listed on the website as compatible) for my htc fuze. the fuze (WM6.1) has been updated to the new rom version (5.xx).
i put it in nothing happens. it work fine on a computer (via usb reader). i have a kingston 2gb micro sd that works fine (but is used for another device). I really want to get this one to work so its not a waste.
so far ive tried reformatting to FAT, 64K and FAT32, 32K (via windows vista formatting).. none of which work.
really annoying, i dont have any other device that uses this card and i specifically checked this brand and type with the htc fuze and seems like everyone having no probs with it.
any other things i can try? is it a faulty card maybe (but it works through usb reader)?
I am having problems with the 8gb class6 cards as well. I have tried the Adata and the transcend cards. Here are some interesting things I have found.
1. The energyrom series of roms seems to be the only rom that lets me see the card.
2. I can't access the card until it the rom loads.
3. I can flash roms from the card even if I cant access them from the phone.
I did see there was a utility to help load SDHC cards called SDHC_WM6. I was never able to get it to load right but it indicates there is some kind of software driver that might help these cards.
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I did see there was a utility to help load SDHC cards called SDHC_WM6. I was never able to get it to load right but it indicates there is some kind of software driver that might help these cards.
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I saw this utility too.. but its for windows mobile 6 not 6.1.. when 6 came out it had no support for sdhc so that thing came out, 6.1 should have support from the start
of course that didnt stop me from trying it anyway... doesnt work
I have a 8 gb Sandisk- Works flawlessly. I have a 16gb Adata( class 6) that worked for awhile then stopped. Put the 8gb- works, 16gb doesnt. tried different ROM- Still same effect. I has to be the Adata card. I am going to try a 16 gb Sandisk when my funds are available.
Oh- the 16 works fine in the microsd/SD card reader......
SDHC Class 6 works in HTC Jade
I have a jade and both cards that refuse to work with my fuze work just fine with the htc jade. I am not sure if it is a hardware problem or an issue with some software such as the sdhc.dll.
My thought is it is probably software. Why?
First the class 4 cards work just fine. In fact I am currently using a Dane-elec 16gb class4 card.
Secondly I am able to get intermittent class 6 cards access if I use one of the NRGY roms.
I have been using a 8gb Adata card that I bought from newegg, and it has been working flaslessly since november.
I recenlty bought another 8gb Adata from meritline, and this one does not get recognized by the fuze.
I then read in the above posts that somebody used Total Commander to copy files, so I opened up Total Commander, and the card is shown there.
I closed the the program, and now the File Explorer can see the card as well.
Maybe you can try the above steps and see if it works.
edit: actually, I have to plug in and out a few times for the phone to see the card...
I also have this issue with my transcend 8GB class 6 microSD.
HTC Touch Pro (T-Mobile), upgraded to EnergyRom. After upgrade, able to work perfectly. After few hours (the phone of course went into sleeping mode), then the phone was not able to read the card, so starting application installed in it makes the phone hangs.
After a while, the application (10-15 mins) was able to start, then everything is normal again. Very confusing.
At the moment I am assuming it's due to the sleeping mode, somehow the phone (software??) was not able to 'resume' reading from the micro SD.
Note: Previously somehow it clashed with the keyboard mapper software (pro_fuze_keyboard.ZIP), then I uninstalled it, then it was fine. Then I install another version of keyboard mapper (Shlomki TouchPro Keyboard in Fuze ROM.cab), then it's fine again, so I now stick with this mapper. However above issue is still happening.
I read some thread about changing some registry (pnp** set to 8196), so I set it. However still the problem persists.
I haven't tried other suggestion to tweak other registry values. Here's the thread on Hermes device: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=294324&page=29
I am wondering if it's really class 6 problem. Is there anybody having the same issue with 8GB class 4?
Note: my PC can read the card without any kind of problem.
I put the microSD into N95 also without any problem.
and i have the same problem to touch pro will not recognize my sdhc 4GB class 6, and i have no problems with 4GB class 4.
HI Bobby,
Were you able to get the Transcend 8gb Class 6 work on the HTC Fuze? I have the same problem. I upgraded the rom from the HTC site and I could see it. But later I plugged the card using the adapter to the laptop to copy some files and when I plug that back into the phone, it says "Not Installed". My happiness of not losing 20 buck was only for a couple of mins Any help is appriciated?
Can you give me download link for the energy rom which actually worked with the card?
yukster said:
Wierd.... I have two Adata 8GB cards, one works in the Touch Pro, the other doesn't. Both of them work in my Sharp EM One.
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I had somewhat of a similar issue, wondering if anyone else has seen this?
8 Gig no name brand MicroSD card in my TouchPro, all of a sudden I had less than 1 gig left, using Resco I couldn't see a thing taking up all that space but it was all gone.
I put the card in the transflash adapter and looked at it on my desktop Windows Explorer and saw the following folders in \Storage Card\Program Files
one directory named (*#LD*))#KDP|} with some text after it
another directory named (#*(Y%*(#(*#*(@#kKD* with some text after it.
NEITHER directory could be renamed, moved, deleted, or anything.
Formatting the card hung the format process.
Finally, I put the microSD card back in my TP and all of a sudden Resco Explorer saw these directories and so I just deleted the Storage Card\Program Files directory (no programs in it) and formatted the card and everything was fine.
Anyone else ever seen this?
Anyone have a specific card reader that has worked with XD cards? Going on vacation and my underwater cameras are all XD and would like to be able to view on the A500.. Thanks!
P.S. all of the cards must be FAT formatted... Problem?
@smoothsl.....You might want to look at the "Targus TGR-MSR" I purchased mine in Walmart it was about $13 but I think you can get it cheaper on line. Mine clearly states that it is USB 2.0 and will read/write the following.....XD...Compact Flash...SDHC...SD/MMC...Micro SD...Memory Stick...SDXC. I honestly haven't used it for XD cards, only Micro SD & SDXC but those work perfectly. A note on formatting, if you use the proprietary SD application it may only format it as "Ext" (at least it did for my 64Gb SDXC card) and I found that the A500 wouldn't read or write to it so I had to use Windows to format as Fat32 and this worked fine. On my smaller 16Gb Micro SD there was no such problem.
Hope it helps.
can t you plug onto USB your camera ?
just asking, like with a cable, if yes well you normally will be able to get all picture on the tablet and import them without need of another Card Reader.
Else you need one on USB