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Hi i have my HTC HD2, relativly new one, i have installed stuff ofcourse to it, and always picked memory card cause i know the internal memory aint so greate, anyway when i go into remove programs there are lots of stuff but are they the ones that are installed to internal and not external? i removed little that oly gave me like 600k more but that affect the internal.
And i know that you wondering whats the problem beside my memory is full,
the problem is i always like i said before pick to install to external cause of memory, how can then my internal be full?
like 3 of 30 stuff i could pick myself where to install.
So someone plz help me? i know i neeed to like reinstall the device and install everything again.
I have like skype, tomtom, hd2 tweak, games hdwall bu i iunistall case it didt work. etc.
sorry for my english
I think your main problem is HTCAlbum cache
go to application data-->htc-->htc album and check how much space occupies the cache folder
In some cases it's larger than 10 mb
So, if it is the problem, you can cancel the cache and then try this tip
Another possible problem could be the cache (or temp files) of other programs, such as opera, internet explorer, google maps and so on
One advice for saving more space in the internal memory:
if you don't use copilot and navipanel, you can remove the copilot folder from the folder "program files": it occupies almost 14 mb
regards
Ok i will try but it seems as the internal memry goes full everytim i insall stuff even i i pick memory card, i will soon reset it and do it over again and check + do the things you advice me to.
just questions about it
if i cancel the cache does it make album slower?
ty in advance
if i cancel the cache does it make album slower?
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maybe a little bit...but I don't notice this problem with the mod I adviced you.
...and for your problem...
Before you think to Hard-reset your device, You have to know that when you install a program, even if you install to the microsd, a piece of the install information goes on the internal memory anyway (and occupies some memory space, obviously)
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ok, here is what to do;
1. install total commander to phone memory (not sd card)
2. eject sd card
3. on total commander file>find files then find files greater than the default 64k or or 1mb if you want the search to be quicker
4. click on 'size' to sort files into descending order
5. delete or copy any unwanted files
in my case i had some videos that were already on my pc, so i deleted them.
Ok i will try i have movies and pic but are they by default placed on sd card? anyway i think mine are but they arenot taking upp space on the intern? like installed programs.
forgat to quote but i answerd you xboxdevil
qllkevuoi said:
maybe a little bit...but I don't notice this problem with the mod I adviced you.
...and for your problem...
Before you think to Hard-reset your device, You have to know that when you install a program, even if you install to the microsd, a piece of the install information goes on the internal memory anyway (and occupies some memory space, obviously)
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Ok same as on computers, but that means they are limited stuff you can have on your phones and i mean i dont have so much, standard win 6.5 sense and changed icons, installs tweaks and some games like 10 :S thats bad, i want the at&t version wtf thanks anyway for the answers
toxicstone said:
Hi i have my HTC HD2, relativly new one, i have installed stuff ofcourse to it, and always picked memory card cause i know the internal memory aint so greate, anyway when i go into remove programs there are lots of stuff but are they the ones that are installed to internal and not external? i removed little that oly gave me like 600k more but that affect the internal.
And i know that you wondering whats the problem beside my memory is full,
the problem is i always like i said before pick to install to external cause of memory, how can then my internal be full?
like 3 of 30 stuff i could pick myself where to install.
So someone plz help me? i know i neeed to like reinstall the device and install everything again.
I have like skype, tomtom, hd2 tweak, games hdwall bu i iunistall case it
didt work. etc.
sorry for my english
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I have never been able to understand why people won't use internal storage!
I have 27 apps installed and this leaves me with 127Mb free which would allow a further minimum of 20 more that I could install assuming an average size.
Why would I want to install to mem card?
It's slower, causes difficulties of all sorts and the internal mem was designed to be used for your apps in the first place.
Although I understand what you are saying pa49 I personally install on my sd card so that
A) I can move from one to another phone if needed or
B) If I have to hard reset then I dont have to load the apps up again when I restore a backup
C) makes backing up and restoring the phone faster and smaller
D) I make a backup of my sd card so that if somthing goes wrong its all there.
I think its a personal preference. I dont fine that my phone is slower or faster one way or the other.
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Although I understand what you are saying pa49 I personally install on my sd card so that
A) I can move from one to another phone if needed or
B) If I have to hard reset then I dont have to load the apps up again when I restore a backup
C) makes backing up and restoring the phone faster and smaller
D) I make a backup of my sd card so that if somthing goes wrong its all there.
I think its a personal preference. I dont fine that my phone is slower or faster one way or the other.
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Yes, I know all these arguments.
But we don't (as a rule) use our PCs this way.
It would not be good practise to install all your PC apps on an external hard drive.
If you applied your four points you'd end up with a mess and I don't see our phones as any different.
We expect our phones to function robustly and then we go out of our way to destabalise the whole thing.
I just don't get it.
This thread
http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/Google Mobile/thread?tid=1163588d699c01d4&hl=en
is just one example of what can happen and the problems were solved by installing on the phone mem!
"Sounds like for at least some folks, installing on phone memory successfully works around this. If you'd prefer to not use phone memory, I'd also try borrowing or buying another memory card as it is potentially due to a portion of your old memory card being corrupted." Quote from Google employee.
What should be most allarming, to those who install to mem card, is the statement, "it is potentially due to a portion of your old memory card being corrupted".
This is the very reason why I always install to phone mem, reinstall all apps after a ROM flash or hard reset and limit my mem cards to only storage of data.
It's not a personal preference.
It just makes sense.
I was wondering is there any real difference of installing apps to the storage card vs installing to the device? besides the location of the files...
would the phone run faster if installing to one vs the other ? .... anything different at all?
Or are there certain apps which make a difference and others which do not? Please advise me....
in general internal memory is faster than sd card, so programs located there would load a little faster than ones on the sd card.
On all my previous WM devices I've installed all games to the SD to save space, and all regular apps to main memory. But with so much free internal storage, I've been installing everything to the internal memory. I don't have a ton of games, maybe 100mb total, so there's plenty of room, and things load much quicker.
The other advantage (mostly with games) to installing on SD card is if you flash your device, or hard reset it, most games will run fine from SD w/o having to reinstall, so if you save the shortcuts you can get away with faster "rebuilds" after a flashing (assuming you don't use tools like Sashimi or XDA_UC, etc)
YMMV
Thanks for the info.
yeah I thought the ones on the device may load faster -but I was not able to prove it ...is there anyone out there who could ?...
also how could I save my shortcuts as you have mentioned (without using things like xda uc or sashimi-which I HAVE been using actually)....
I think I will try installing more things to the device, but I would like to hear more people on this topic....
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also how could I save my shortcuts as you have mentioned (without using things like xda uc or sashimi-which I HAVE been using actually)....
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you could set up homepage quicklinks to your games, then export the reg key
HKLM/software/htc/manila/home (contains a series of numbered keys, each one is a home quicklink)
Use something like WinCE CAB manager to make a cab that you instal when you re flash. Hey presto, quicklinks restored, no need for backup software.
Many non-system type apps especially games just need shortcuts to run on a fresh flash/hard reset so if you just back up those icons and restore them manually or with sashimi or xdauc you're good to go. Reg keys can do any custom tweaking. Before I started using sashimi I did these backups all the time with card based installs, but now with sashimi, not so much need.
You will also save battery since the phone won't need to access the sd card. Though I don't know how much you'll save, since WM may scan or access the sd card for other purposes anyways.
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You will also save battery since the phone won't need to access the sd card. Though I don't know how much you'll save, since WM may scan or access the sd card for other purposes anyways.
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Nice point, did not occur to me....
yeah, do I really need to move app2sd for Galaxy Note? What's benefit if I do this?
I was previously using Nexus One, and of course I need it bcoz not enough internal space. But now Galaxy Note has like at least 14Gb, so I really need a move? Will it save more battery if app2sd?
of the 16gb we are given, only 2gb is allocated to apps. although most apps are smart nowadays and will install the bulk of the game data to the SD card, or in our case, the HDD.
wont really save more battery if you use apps to sd.
and you dont need to install apps to SD. its somewhat integrated into gingerbread. just go to settings, applications, manage applications, tap on the application, and theres a 'move to sd card' button here.
I used a 1Gb partition for apps2sd on my Nexus One, so 2Gb is plenty for me.
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of the 16gb we are given, only 2gb is allocated to apps. although most apps are smart nowadays and will install the bulk of the game data to the SD card, or in our case, the HDD.
wont really save more battery if you use apps to sd.
and you dont need to install apps to SD. its somewhat integrated into gingerbread. just go to settings, applications, manage applications, tap on the application, and theres a 'move to sd card' button here.
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oh wtf?! only allocated 2Gb for apps?! that's ridiculous! waste of the rest of free space! bcoz my mp3s are in external 32Gb card and more than enough.
Without any apps2sd for now, I still have 784Mb free....
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oh wtf?! only allocated 2Gb for apps?! that's ridiculous! waste of the rest of free space! bcoz my mp3s are in external 32Gb card and more than enough.
Without any apps2sd for now, I still have 784Mb free....
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looks like you've downloaded a lot, lol. just use the apps to sd integrated into gingerbread that i mentioned above.
pretty much all manufacturers stick with 2gb as the general amount of space to allocate for apps. they have to account for the average media user - which will use more music and video than apps, and then the power user - which will use more apps/games than music and videos.
on my old n900, it was possible to resize the apps partition, im sure theres someone out there who knows how to do it for android if you need more space.
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looks like you've downloaded a lot, lol. just use the apps to sd integrated into gingerbread that i mentioned above.
pretty much all manufacturers stick with 2gb as the general amount of space to allocate for apps. they have to account for the average media user - which will use more music and video than apps, and then the power user - which will use more apps/games than music and videos.
on my old n900, it was possible to resize the apps partition, im sure theres someone out there who knows how to do it for android if you need more space.
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Yes, many useful apps for daily use for me. now many new Android apps are in larger size and no app2sd function unless you root it, but I am not gonna root my Galaxy Note. Before I thought it's like iPhone, all spaces can use for apps... Sigh...
I did root for my Nexus One bcoz it had only 500mb for apps @@
Souai said:
of the 16gb we are given, only 2gb is allocated to apps. although most apps are smart nowadays and will install the bulk of the game data to the SD card, or in our case, the HDD.
wont really save more battery if you use apps to sd.
and you dont need to install apps to SD. its somewhat integrated into gingerbread. just go to settings, applications, manage applications, tap on the application, and theres a 'move to sd card' button here.
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Hi Souai, what can you say about this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1332244
Someone there says you can't fully utilize the Note's sd card for apps because of the directory structure, although another one was confident that you can indeed install apps to your sd card.
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Hi Souai, what can you say about this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1332244
Someone there says you can't fully utilize the Note's sd card for apps because of the directory structure, although another one was confident that you can indeed install apps to your sd card.
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its the same as was on my atrix. not everyone uses SD cards, and SD cards are also removable, so rather than having people hotswap an SD card and lose some of their apps when using another app function, manufacturers have started renaming the onboard storage as 'SDCard' in an attempt to make it more usable for consumers.
so if its like my atrix, moving it to the SD card will just move it to the onboard storage. for the OP, its fine since it will use the other large chunk of the 16gb onboard storage that he hasnt really used yet.
dunno about needing root access to run apps to sd. it ran fine for me on my atrix on froyo without root access. but then due to the labelling structure of the onboard storage, it just moved the data to the onboard storage.
generally, its not an issue unless you think you'll really need more than 16/32gb of apps storage in this case.
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generally, its not an issue unless you think you'll really need more than 16/32gb of apps storage in this case.
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I'm pretty sure I'll need more than 16gb or 32gb, so this looks like an issue for me. Thanks anyway.
Sharpshooterrr said:
I'm pretty sure I'll need more than 16gb or 32gb, so this looks like an issue for me. Thanks anyway.
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I'd hate to see what your app drawer would look like with 32gb's worth of applications installed!
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Dave
foxmeister said:
I'd hate to see what your app drawer would look like with 32gb's worth of applications installed!
Regards,
Dave
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I get ya, but the answer to that potential horror is "folders". I currently use an iPhone 4 and have installed over 250 apps, but I only use 3 home screens - everything is neat and tidy. I'm planning to do the same when I get the Note.
I ran out of storage for new apps a long time ago. My device is kind of useless for new things because there is no internal memory for INSTALLING APPS, even after removing 75% of my apps which includes system apps. There is just no more space. It still has 2gb of internal memory left BUT THAT CANNOT BE USED FOR INSTALLING APPS, stupidly. There are 8GB of total internal storage space.
I have plenty of storage for data. Just not for apps. I have a 32GB SD card as well.
App2SD apps, I maximized all possible data to be moved.
Apps with data larger than 20MB I just deleted the whole apps.
Still no more space.
Additionally, it means I CANNOT use this tablet for things like games, or for storing map data from gopilot live as a backup in case my phone dies. Which is VERY limiting. Especially because I used to like to play games on it but I had to remove all the games to make way for utilities.
Thus I DESPERATELY NEED to be able to install UNLIMITED NUMBER OF APPS using the SD card for internal storage.
I tried the vold.fstab method HERE, but it did not work.
PLEASE HELP!!! THANK YOU!!!
p.s. I WOULD BUY A NEW TABLET WITH MORE MEMORY BUT NO 7.0 INCH TABLET EXISTS THAT IS BETTER THAN THE TAB 4 BECAUSE THEY ARE ALL MAKING HUGE 8.0 and 8.4 INCH TABLETS THAT ARE TOO BIG SO I AM STUCK WITH THE TAB 4.
zxzxzxzxzxzxzxzxzx said:
I ran out of storage for new apps a long time ago. My device is kind of useless for new things because there is no internal memory for INSTALLING APPS, even after removing 75% of my apps which includes system apps. There is just no more space. It still has 2gb of internal memory left BUT THAT CANNOT BE USED FOR INSTALLING APPS, stupidly. There are 8GB of total internal storage space.
I have plenty of storage for data. Just not for apps. I have a 32GB SD card as well.
App2SD apps, I maximized all possible data to be moved.
Apps with data larger than 20MB I just deleted the whole apps.
Still no more space.
Additionally, it means I CANNOT use this tablet for things like games, or for storing map data from gopilot live as a backup in case my phone dies. Which is VERY limiting. Especially because I used to like to play games on it but I had to remove all the games to make way for utilities.
Thus I DESPERATELY NEED to be able to install UNLIMITED NUMBER OF APPS using the SD card for internal storage.
I tried the vold.fstab method HERE, but it did not work.
PLEASE HELP!!! THANK YOU!!!
p.s. I WOULD BUY A NEW TABLET WITH MORE MEMORY BUT NO 7.0 INCH TABLET EXISTS THAT IS BETTER THAN THE TAB 4 BECAUSE THEY ARE ALL MAKING HUGE 8.0 and 8.4 INCH TABLETS THAT ARE TOO BIG SO I AM STUCK WITH THE TAB 4.
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i'd say you just need test different apps all over and over akd different methods from XDA, i have on my phone sdcard as internal memory but same method wont work on tab 4..... you should use folder mount to move appdata to sdcard and use it from there, it helps if you have big app data on internal sd card.
thelous said:
i'd say you just need test different apps all over and over akd different methods from XDA, i have on my phone sdcard as internal memory but same method wont work on tab 4..... you should use folder mount to move appdata to sdcard and use it from there, it helps if you have big app data on internal sd card.
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No I tried that already. It does Not work because of the error "this has been limited due to kitkat so you're not authorized" or something to that extent. It's not an error, it is a limitation of the kitkat (and all subsequent) operating systems. Google did that on purpose to try to force people to have to upgrade their phone.
zxzxzxzxzxzxzxzxzx said:
No I tried that already. It does Not work because of the error "this has been limited due to kitkat so you're not authorized" or something to that extent. It's not an error, it is a limitation of the kitkat (and all subsequent) operating systems. Google did that on purpose to try to force people to have to upgrade their phone.
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well, you could install cyanogenmod to fix issue.....
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zxzxzxzxzxzxzxzxzx said:
Extreme measures is NOT a solution. That's like saying, "I'm having an issue with my computer..." and someone saying, "well, you could always get a new computer." NO. Not a solution.
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Cyanogenmod isn't an extreme solution, it runs better than touchwiz IMO and it takes up significantly less memory, which is a fact. It's more like saying, "I don't like Windows," and the reply being, "You should try out Ubuntu," especially since both cyanogenmod, like Ubuntu, is completely free
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zxzxzxzxzxzxzxzxzx said:
Reinstalling my entire OS is not a solution. Get over it. I am not reinstalling a new OS.
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With a quote like that you are on the wrong website my friend. Sorry for trying to help. And it is a valid solution since it would've solved the problem
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Waiting for a real solution to the actual problem.
uh if youre not ready to install different rom i guess theres no solution
I'm having the exact same dilemma. In my case, not going to CM (or another rom/firmware/kernel..) is due to the fact that my children use the tablets, so the KidsMode needs to work. I've looked at that one from Zoodles, and its rubbish compared to the Samsung one available on their Galaxy devices. My original post never had any reply other than my own update.
By the way: I'm still searching for a solution to this... If only Samsung would/could release Marshmallow on this tablet, the Adoptable Storage option could be used...
Now, if you can just hold your breath...
lol I know right...?
Full disclosure: I've given up hope of finding a solution that will work with (essentially) stock 4.4.2, so now I'm looking into how to get the TouchWiz framework to run on a rom/kernel that DOES support support an external/internal swap.
Of course, that does nothing to help the OP, but IMO the best solution has already been presented to him: Install a custom ROM that supports what he needs. It's still the best solution since there don't seem to be any TouchWiz-dependent apps he needs.
Years later still no solution
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Years later still no solution
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If you are willing to root your device you can use Apps2sd to actually move(link) whole app into sd card.
You'll need to repartition your sd card to do it, but there are good guides to do it.
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Oh it's renamed app2sd but here is the link https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=in.co.pricealert.apps2sd&hl=fi for it
you can also try link2sd app
keikari said:
If you are willing to root your device you can use Apps2sd to actually move(link) whole app into sd card.
You'll need to repartition your sd card to do it, but there are good guides to do it.
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Oh it's renamed app2sd but here is the link https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=in.co.pricealert.apps2sd&hl=fi for it
you can also try link2sd app
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That's very limited and actually doesn't do anything more than the native android system does already, ever since about 2013 or so
zxzxzxzxzxzxzxzxzx said:
That's very limited and actually doesn't do anything more than the native android system does already, ever since about 2013 or so
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I don't know about how limited it is, but it's completly different than native android moving apps to sd. Linking is like actually increasing your devices internal memory(not really but somethign like that). Also it's easiest/(propably)best way to get more memory for apps.
Like the title says, no one been able to make any progress on rooting this thing?
I haven't...
I don't care about being able to install custom ROMs, I just need Google Play to look at somewhere other than internal storage to update apps. I have a 128gb card and I can install whatever I want to it but I can't update apps because everything wants more storage space than is available in the amount left on the device after the base OS and apps are installed to just hold the temp files to update with. If I could alias that to the memory card this would be the perfect cheap tablet. As it stands now I can't even update the built-in apps.
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I don't care about being able to install custom ROMs, I just need Google Play to look at somewhere other than internal storage to update apps. I have a 128gb card and I can install whatever I want to it but I can't update apps because everything wants more storage space than is available in the amount left on the device after the base OS and apps are installed to just hold the temp files to update with. If I could alias that to the memory card this would be the perfect cheap tablet. As it stands now I can't even update the built-in apps.
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I've got the same problem. If only I could update and install apps. You know, like what a tablet is supposed to be for?
Are you using unified storage (formatted as internal) with your SD?
smileygon10 said:
I've got the same problem. If only I could update and install apps. You know, like what a tablet is supposed to be for?
Are you using unified storage (formatted as internal) with your SD?
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Yeah. And like a lot of things with Android I'm learning, nothing quite works like you think it would, especially if it means you'd have an easy time with something.
I guess on some level we can blame B&N for not putting more than 8GB in the thing. Heck, 10GB would fix the problems.
I keep returning here hoping for a miracle. I too have an SD configured for adoptable storage. But Google forces most of their own apps including non-essential crap onto internal. At this point I don't think even a base load device will function properly since updates to Google's own apps have bloated the onboard memory requirements.
Its a shame. I got these for my kids thinking they would be good low-risk devices that they could use to read, game, etc. I guess that's still partly true. The kids could use them as frisbees
I don't think Google forces their apps to be on internal. I've installed apps from the Play Store like Google Translate, and it allowed me to move to SD card. So I think it's B&N. They preinstall apps, and preinstalled apps can't be moved.
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I keep returning here hoping for a miracle. I too have an SD configured for adoptable storage. But Google forces most of their own apps including non-essential crap onto internal. At this point I don't think even a base load device will function properly since updates to Google's own apps have bloated the onboard memory requirements.
Its a shame. I got these for my kids thinking they would be good low-risk devices that they could use to read, game, etc. I guess that's still partly true. The kids could use them as frisbees
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It seems that while you can move many of the apps, they move right back when updated (which happens frequently). So trying to keep enough free space on the built-in storage is a losing proposition.
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It seems that while you can move many of the apps, they move right back when updated (which happens frequently). So trying to keep enough free space on the built-in storage is a losing proposition.
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Yeah. I don't even have enough space to update or install apps, even with a 32 GB SD card. Apparently the Play Store isn't smart enough to be able to download and install/update an app directly to the SD card. I've had to turn off Auto-Update Apps because it would push incessant notifications that I don't have enough space to update X app.
I also have a Nook 7 with 128GB SD card formatted for internal storage--and I can't update apps either. Storage says I have 3.14 to 3.21G (depending) out of 3.36G available storage. I'm new to this, but I'd thought formatting the SD card as internal storage would solve the problem, and it obviously hasn't for me or for several others in this thread.
Does anyone have any ideas? I don't want to root until July when the warranty runs out.
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Yeah. And like a lot of things with Android I'm learning, nothing quite works like you think it would, especially if it means you'd have an easy time with something.
I guess on some level we can blame B&N for not putting more than 8GB in the thing. Heck, 10GB would fix the problems.
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They do have a new version that has 32GB.