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I'm leaning towards Sense UI. They made a lot of changes to android that I like and it seems faster than the stock launcher and other home replacements.
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I'm leaning towards Sense UI. They made a lot of changes to android that I like and it seems faster than the stock launcher and other home replacements.
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The custom ROM that is in alpha by Modaco made me want to switch to it already. It has some bugs that I could not handle so I had to reflash my nandroid back up.
But that ROM is going to be awesome.
I tried the Desire Rom but franky I don´t like the sense interface. I flashed back after two hours
Having used sense on WiMo and now having used and seen what can be achieved on Android (via widgets etc) have to say MUCH prefer the stock UI + a few widgets.
I'm digging the pinch-to-zoom for seven home screens feature, but not a big fan of the ^ Phone + tab at the bottom. Way too big, feels like a waste of screen real estate.
I must admit that HTC's widgets do eliminate the need for beautiful widgets/pure calendar/et al, though. And the browser is a great improvement over stock for the most part (barring the bookmarks, which is something of a clusterfuck). Gallery performs better and faster than stock 2.1 but, of course, lacks the 3D eyecandy.
I'm not really a fan of sense.. Yea its nice, but its very serious and too luxurious.. like an Armani suit. Yea it looks good but like a nice but it just feels constricting to me. And i know its a beta but the scrolling it way way smoother on the nexus with the .32 highmem kernel. Once the rom has gone beta with a highmem kernel i guess I'll give it another shot.
Sense UI isn't bad at all. Sense is a godsend for WinMo, whereas for andriod I do prefer stock over Sense.
rydr1 said:
The custom ROM that is in alpha by Modaco made me want to switch to it already. It has some bugs that I could not handle so I had to reflash my nandroid back up.
But that ROM is going to be awesome.
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True Indeed.. This ROM has been very nice.. I have been with him since Alpha 0-1. So This is nice.. Now, Sense UI is for the intuitive individual.. If you dont like fancy things then stay away from even an Android Device.. Stock Is great, But remember, That's not it, 1.5 and 1.6 even 2.0.1 were very diff from what we posses on 2.1. Much of what was changed, was Devoted per say to an Evolution, not revolution...
From There we have seen it go from Crap to finesse. Now, Sense UI is much more capable than Stock which is why MODACO did what he did.. It was needed Dude, Freaking Needed.. Put it this way, if all you look at is the Stock version of 2.1 all day then that is what you will love... If your an individual like me who has had EVERY ANDROID PHONE MADE, EVERY ONE... you understand the differences.. and appreciate the Sense UI...
Jesus Cat...
Makaijin said:
Sense UI isn't bad at all. Sense is a godsend for WinMo, whereas for andriod I do prefer stock over Sense.
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I agree, Sense is like make-up. Sure, it hugely improves the dog that is WinMo but Android is pretty sexy without it and, actually, it makes her look a bit slaggy
Sense icons are fugly.
It would be nice to have the Sense widgets though.
Sense is nice. it just seems too cluttered. its a nice clean, slick clutter. stock UI would be great with a pinch of sense UI thrown in. like the home screen pinch. the browser was nice...the mag while dragging finger across text...etc.
Aw man. I was so excited to get my Sense UI running. But after reading this thread, I got depressed
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After a little while, I am now thinking about it and I can see it objectively:
+ Sense Widgets: Simply awesome
+ Browser: Amazing (I absolutely LOVE the 100% full-screen browser. The scroll bars even fade out, which Dolphin does not do)
+ Flash Lite: Nuff said
+ Pinch to zoom to see all home screens: I have fallen in love with this feature. I can't imagine how I lived without it!
- The bottom bar with the tray and phone is ridiculously ugly, large, and useless. I almost never use the phone (ironic eh? ), so having such a HUGE shortcut on every damn screen is horrible. 100% absolute crap. I miss stock Android's simplicity with its single tiny grid box.
- Menus like contacts that are all white with black borders etc -- these screens make me want to PUKE they are so UGLY!!! I'd rather have stock Android's black menus than these.
Stock Android + Sense Widgets + Browser + Flash + Home Screen Pinch to Zoom and BAM, best ROM ever!
The question is... Can it be done??????
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Sense icons are fugly.
It would be nice to have the Sense widgets though.
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Agreed... these are the only advantages Sense has over stock. As long as we get flash, of course.
Looks like the debate between Sense and Stock depend on personal taste. I think Sense UI looks great. Not to mention there are a lot of small tweaks that I like and wish were in the stock UI such as When you turn your ringer down all the way it goes to vibrate not silent also when you get notifications while playing music the notifications play with the music instead of stopping the music.
For me sense –
Widgets (manly music player and calendar widget)
Smart dial pad
HTC keyboard
And the overall look of sense i think looks quite nice.
Yeah..someone should make a Fusion ROM. then give use a kitchen.
seriously tho...the HTC keyboard that doesn't put a space after every correction...that's what I like and am running right now...how did Google f that up?
There isn't anything on the Sense UI that I can't do with stock and a few nice widgets.
I, personally, think the Sense UI for Android is overrated and carrys too much overhead.
Now, for WinMo, yeah, it was pretty much a given that it was needed, the default UI sucked pretty hard...
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There isn't anything on the Sense UI that I can't do with stock and a few nice widgets.
I, personally, think the Sense UI for Android is overrated and carrys too much overhead.
Now, for WinMo, yeah, it was pretty much a given that it was needed, the default UI sucked pretty hard...
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-Nice weather animation if you have the clock & weather widget
-Leap/Multitouch home screen
-Scrollable widgets
-Music Controls on lockscreen with cover art.
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Stock Android + Sense Widgets + Browser + Flash + Home Screen Pinch to Zoom and BAM, best ROM ever!
The question is... Can it be done??????
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Oh man, this has been talked about since the day Sense was first out for the G1!
Sadly, Sense UI's widgets, Browser, and other stuff works only with Sense UI because of the way the apps are deeply embedded into the framework of the build, we can pull the apps and install them to stock, but they need Sense to actually run.
I missed Sense UI, so I'm glad it's been ported.
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Oh man, this has been talked about since the day Sense was first out for the G1!
Sadly, Sense UI's widgets, Browser, and other stuff works only with Sense UI because of the way the apps are deeply embedded into the framework of the build, we can pull the apps and install them to stock, but they need Sense to actually run.
I missed Sense UI, so I'm glad it's been ported.
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now that we have root is there a way to disable Htc sense
Patience! Roms are just around the corner I am sure. I know I am +1 on getting rid of the Sense crap. I hate it!
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now that we have root is there a way to disable Htc sense
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You can't just disable sense, it IS the UI and for all intents (lol) and purposes, the OS. Vanilla Google Android 2.1 is a different kernel than Android HTC Sense 2.1, so it has to be replaced, lock stock and barrel. Go over and look at the Dream forums, the Sense&Espresso camp is quite different from the Donut, Eclair, Froyo camp. If you've ever used linux, the difference between Gnome distros and KDE distros is a pretty apt (lol) comparison. They can run each others' programs (usually), but they are built up from the kernel differently. So like the other dude said, just wait a sec
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Patience! Roms are just around the corner I am sure. I know I am +1 on getting rid of the Sense crap. I hate it!
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There's some serious work to be done unless we get some test keys. Don't think that customs ROMs will be coming within the next week.
You can start by using a different launcher. I like launcherpro from the market. Its really nice and fast compared to sense. Once you install a new launcher, make sure you set it as your default and then reboot your phone.
You can also remove a lot of sense apps while in recovery. Just be careful what you remove. Some things are needed or your phone will boot loop or you might get a mess if fc's upon rebooting. you might want to try just renaming them first to see if there is any bad side effect before actually removing it. You can also copy the apps you remove to your phone for backup purposes. Be careful 'cuz I am not responsible for you bricking your phone.
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So we basically we should just wait for a fresh 2.1 rom from one of our devs, Ill just sit here and twittle my thumbs in the mean time
If twiddling thumbs (as I am doing) isnt working for you, the other option is to become a developer. No better way to make things happen than to do it yourself! I dont have the time and patients to learn Android right now, it just isnt plausible....so I wait.
As far as the launcher goes, that isnt the portion of Sense I dont like. The launcher is usable. Its the OSK, the phone screens, etc. I tried the launchers, but it wasn't what I am after. I want a plain Jane Vanilla rom, like my Nexus had.
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If twiddling thumbs (as I am doing) isnt working for you, the other option is to become a developer. No better way to make things happen than to do it yourself! I dont have the time and patients to learn Android right now, it just isnt plausible....so I wait.
As far as the launcher goes, that isnt the portion of Sense I dont like. The launcher is usable. Its the OSK, the phone screens, etc. I tried the launchers, but it wasn't what I am after. I want a plain Jane Vanilla rom, like my Nexus had.
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I agree with you all I want is simple android 2.1 (or 2.2) without all the verizon crap they feel I need on my phone
Just use AWD or Launcher Pro... you won't see anything sense related using those unless you hunt for it.
if you think this is true, you have never used a vanilla rom. The phone, dialer screen, contact screen, etc are all still Sense (and junk to navigate and use). They are not related to launcher. I have used both Launcher Pro and ADW (not AWD) with the same result.
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if you think this is true, you have never used a vanilla rom. The phone, dialer screen, contact screen, etc are all still Sense (and junk to navigate and use). They are not related to launcher. I have used both Launcher Pro and ADW (not AWD) with the same result.
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I have used both.... and after giving sense a try and not listening to others.... I actually prefer it over vanilla... everything works better imo with better integration.
...and thats fine for you...but not really correct to say that a Launcher will remove the feel of Sense. There is enough room in this world for Coke AND Pepsi...as well both Vanilla and Sense roms
Cyanogen based ROMs are the best. Sense sucks ... IMO.
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I "replaced" my SenseUI with ADW, and it works great. I say "replaced" because by installing ADW or Launcher Pro, you're only replacing the UI part of Sense. Sense will still run underneath. Until custom ROMs come (which won't happen until we get an unlocked NAND), that's what we've got.
I am really looking forward to getting Froyo. I came from a Moto Droid where I had just recently installed Froyo, and it was so fast. I actually like the Incredible more because of the better screen and lighter feel with no keyboard, but the Droid was so much faster on Froyo it almost makes me want to go back until they get the Incredible figured out.
I think if you came from WinMo and are used to Sense then you will like it on Android. If not then most will hate it.
Not to clutter this post or change subject
I dont see you you can say the screen on the incredible is better. I have both and I still think the Moto droids screen is better higher res and easier to see in sunlight. again its my opinion.
Dont get me wrong they are very close in resolution but the Moto droid is slightly higher. Inside with no sun on them they are very close I'll give it that.
I notice there are a few different ROM's for the DHD, some with Sense some without.
Whats the actual difference, does Sence in some way slow the phone down?
I use the clock, friends feed, messages, mail, agenda and the music widgets.
However the one thing that I really dont like is the slide down thing that sense brings, I much prefer the press/slide left/right that you get with the plain Android builds.
So, are there advantages to running a more vanilla android version with some widgets over the sense style ROMs.
I am on mike1986's Android Revolution.
I myself believe sense itself make things sense. For instance the iPhone-like copy&paste.
But yeah you're right it's huge and clumsy. But that's why desire hd has such big ram. I feel sick for not getting full advantage of my device.
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Trig0r said:
I use the clock, friends feed, messages, mail, agenda and the music widgets.
However the one thing that I really dont like is the slide down thing that sense brings, I much prefer the press/slide left/right that you get with the plain Android builds.
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If you root the phone using VISIONary+ you can delete/rename the Lockscreen.apk I believe and it will return to the vanilla lockscreen. As for jazzy widgets that's a Sense thing, unless you buy and install LauncherPro over ADW.Launcher, LauncherPro has People, Bookmarks, Calaendar, Messaging, Twitter, Facebook & Friends widgets that can be used. There is also music widget control using Cyanogen.
I find sense slow and garish, it slows down the phone for no good reason, ASOP ROMs are much lighter and look, IMO, much prettier and unique.
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I myself believe sense itself make things sense. For instance the iPhone-like copy&paste.
But yeah you're right it's huge and clumsy. But that's why desire hd has such big ram. I feel sick for not getting full advantage of my device.
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I got rid of my Sense just recently, I prefer the phone this way, Sense just took too much space, try other Launchers out, if you prefer it, I suggest you try out the Cyanogen ROM, which I have done. A whole lot better.
i dont get it, people who have cyanogen seem to think its LOADS better, but its not though is it, iv used it on the hero and now running it on dhd.
its ok, just more theming options and alot uglier imo, dont like contacts, or phone or music or many of the default apps
thats where sense is LOADS better, its alot easier and nicer to use, has better features
saying this im on cyanogen and really cnt be assed to change back otherwise i would, and i wanna try ginger out when its out
apart from that sense blow cyanogen out the water
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i dont get it, people who have cyanogen seem to think its LOADS better, but its not though is it, iv used it on the hero and now running it on dhd.
its ok, just more theming options and alot uglier imo, dont like contacts, or phone or music or many of the default apps
thats where sense is LOADS better, its alot easier and nicer to use, has better features
saying this im on cyanogen and really cnt be assed to change back otherwise i would, and i wanna try ginger out when its out
apart from that sense blow cyanogen out the water
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People like the simplicity of Cyanogen. Sense slows even the DHD down, it's aweful. And to boot pretty much everyone with an Android phone has it. It's better to be unique.
you think sense slows dhd down? yeh it makes it sooooo laggy, i get no slow downs using sense and never had not even on hero
people just go with what most say, to make themselves feel "unique", its mainly down to the rom dev if it has lag or not, although it ironic you say your unique for using cyanogen just like allll the others
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you think sense slows dhd down? yeh it makes it sooooo laggy, i get no slow downs using sense and never had not even on hero
people just go with what most say, to make themselves feel "unique", its mainly down to the rom dev if it has lag or not, although it ironic you say your unique for using cyanogen just like allll the others
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Scroll down to the bottom of your app drawer and look at the lag as it reaches the bottom, and open your SMS's and scroll, notice the lag. Sense isn't well coded. And of all the people on XDA how many do I know personally? None. How many of my collegues and friends have Android phones? Lots, how many have Cyanogen? None. That makes it unique.
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you think sense slows dhd down? yeh it makes it sooooo laggy, i get no slow downs using sense and never had not even on hero
people just go with what most say, to make themselves feel "unique", its mainly down to the rom dev if it has lag or not, although it ironic you say your unique for using cyanogen just like allll the others
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Point well made.
I really can't notice nay slow down due to Sense whatsoever. I really do think that someone should clearly "sell" the advantages of dumping Sense, other than just plain old enthusiasm for hacking something. I think it is more down to aesthetics than anything else. Try other ROMs and see if you like them, you might. I like the fact that HTC have at least tried to add value to Android.
A further irony is having come from the Magic I can vouch for the fact that much effort was put into porting Sense to that plain Android phone.
Sorry, no lag when I scroll my SMS or App drawer. The DHD can definitely deal with the demands of Sense.
Sense is pretty cool and only lags if you try to make it. I think that if all Android phones came with Cyanogen as the stock ROM then the Sense ROM would be a massive hit. Cyanogen is definitely a good choice because it's clean and fast but until i actually need my Desire HD to run faster and more efficiently i won't use it. That's why i will go sort of halfway and flash a cooked sense based ROM like Leedroid.
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Scroll down to the bottom of your app drawer and look at the lag as it reaches the bottom, and open your SMS's and scroll, notice the lag. Sense isn't well coded. And of all the people on XDA how many do I know personally? None. How many of my collegues and friends have Android phones? Lots, how many have Cyanogen? None. That makes it unique.
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look at what lag? my app draw runs fine using launcher pro plus, sms's all run with no lag difference than cyan, just cyan is uglier
who says sense isnt well coded? its coded for normal peole who dont want to run and say i hacked my phone now everyone else says its loads faster so it must be
fair enough benchmarks might say it but is it noticeable? no
as i say its all down to the rom dev if its laggy or not
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I got rid of my Sense just recently, I prefer the phone this way, Sense just took too much space, try other Launchers out, if you prefer it, I suggest you try out the Cyanogen ROM, which I have done. A whole lot better.
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I have to admit I didn't try it out on desire hd but I tried it when I'm with a hero. Say, cyan is for dev and sense is for users. Whatever you get what you want.
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look at what lag? my app draw runs fine using launcher pro plus, sms's all run with no lag difference than cyan, just cyan is uglier
who says sense isnt well coded? its coded for normal peole who dont want to run and say i hacked my phone now everyone else says its loads faster so it must be
fair enough benchmarks might say it but is it noticeable? no
as i say its all down to the rom dev if its laggy or not
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Lol, LauncherPro isn't the default launcher, so on a Sense based ROM it will be faster, I am simply pointing out that stock Sense, totally stock launcher and all, lags.
We could argue until the cows come home which is better, but I prefer the alternative that is Cyanogen. At least then I can have a totally black and white theme which is what I like. And it's only recently I have switched to ASOP previously I used a Sense based ROM on my Desire, but craved the ASOP lockscreens and dialer.
If we move to another ROM apart from sense, does this mean that we will be losing some features like "louder ring in the bag, flip over the phone for quite" etc... ?
Does Cyanogen ROM provide these all?
eozen81 said:
If we move to another ROM apart from sense, does this mean that we will be losing some features like "louder ring in the bag, flip over the phone for quite" etc... ?
Does Cyanogen ROM provide these all?
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You loose louder ring but flip to silence still works. You do loose quite a few of the jazzy features of Sense.
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You loose louder ring but flip to silence still works. You do loose quite a few of the jazzy features of Sense.
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Is there any exact list showing sense features we will be losing? I guess that's important to know before deciding to move a different ROM, right?
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Is there any exact list showing sense features we will be losing? I guess that's important to know before deciding to move a different ROM, right?
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Not that, I know of. Sense Copy & Paste is one of them, there is no magnification window when you copy and paste on the DHD, and the louder ring, that's all I can think of off the top of my head.
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Lol, LauncherPro isn't the default launcher, so on a Sense based ROM it will be faster, I am simply pointing out that stock Sense, totally stock launcher and all, lags.
We could argue until the cows come home which is better, but I prefer the alternative that is Cyanogen. At least then I can have a totally black and white theme which is what I like. And it's only recently I have switched to ASOP previously I used a Sense based ROM on my Desire, but craved the ASOP lockscreens and dialer.
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lol who said it had to be standard? sense comes with to much bloatware, so i remove most of it
have you tried this theme addon? http://classical-gas.blogspot.com/2010/12/jamt-htc-desire-cyanogenmod-610rc2.html
works real nice i have cyan set up alight atm but hopefuly not long till the ginger comes along
I am back on a sense rom. Rcmixhd since adfree and other components work correctly unlike on the other sense roms I've tried. I used to love Cyanogen on my Nexus One but the new sense is very slick indeed.
It does not lag. It does take a little longer to boot and use more memory but who cares when we have so much ram on the dhd. I don't know how the amount of room it takes can be an issue either considering we have 1.5gb rom. I still have 0.9gb free with 54 apps installed.
tbh I still love cyanogenmod but its htc locations which is keeping me on sense. Its the best android offline navigator I've tried in terms of routing here in New zealand and I love the fact I can just buy a cheap 1 month subscription for navigation in another country when I go overseas. Any other app one is forced to buy a complete package for that country at considerably larger cost.
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I really don't like the Sense launcher, I use adw, but sense has lots of little modifications that are just nice to have. Text selection, quick lookup, freaking awesome dialer, flip to speaker etc
I'm running android revolution hd, no lags, excellent battery (whole day with pretty heavy use. Needs charging every night but I can use all the phones features as much as I like and not give the battery a second thought) also 2400 in quadrant. So all in all i really rate sense.
Go check out the New adw launcher ex ($3.28)
worth every cent
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KD5WD-HDagM
Its absolutely amazing, im using it on Darkstone superram 1.5.
screen below.
If you have any questions before you buy, you may ask
bought it yesterday and uninstalled launcher-pro right away.I`m using it wit GIPAQ-MIUI.Boy its blazing fast and its a beauty.
Tried it. Couldnt put my HD2 away. I was kept swiping in the app drawer...........so silky smooth.....
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bought it yesterday and uninstalled launcher-pro right away.I`m using it wit GIPAQ-MIUI.Boy its blazing fast and its a beauty.
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akbisw said:
Tried it. Couldnt put my HD2 away. I was kept swiping in the app drawer...........so silky smooth.....
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lol same here, i drained my battery playing with the new animations and all that, i uninstalled launcher pro before even trying the new adw
I just can't use anything or even a build that doesn't have the scrolling wheel at the bottom. It's a must have for me.
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This + NAND = nexusS quality experience?
Either way, very nice launcher!
I was hoping there was a demo or a lite version to experience it a little bit... this way I am not sure if I am sold on it - gotta pay $3 to experience - to late for refund then.
we'll see what happens in reviews - so far it looks pretty kewl
Juts download and install applanet, You will get all the latest paid versions for free, This is what I use to "test" programs and if I like them I buy them, If I dont like them or find something wrong with them I bin them.
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I guess he mean by "what type of version is this? Does it support HD2 or is it a port?"
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port??
Dude its a Android app. Just boot your HD2 into android and install it.
Hello!
GDE launcher anyone tried? I now use it because I like doing dice table, the animation is spectacular.
looks decent,
features i use the most on launcher pro...
continuous scrolling dock
(dock) swipe up to:
-launch another app (2 actions per icon)
-show 'leap' view
-show notifications
can anyone say if these features are available in this?
many thanks
kam333 said:
looks decent,
features i use the most on launcher pro...
continuous scrolling dock
(dock) swipe up to:
-launch another app (2 actions per icon)
-show 'leap' view
-show notifications
can anyone say if these features are available in this?
many thanks
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i believe it has everything except the dock swipe
Do you know where I can suggest the dev some features ?
Most important for me is : set the default screen to the first one not the centre, put the "1-icon dock" on the right or left and not only in the centre, be able to choose the icons background.
Fantastic job for the rest. Super fast...
Edit : can someone confirm me that ADWNotifier works with this ?
Take care if couldn't be refunded after I tried it. I prefer the miui ui
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Take care if couldn't be refunded after I tried it. I prefer the miui ui
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The refund period recently changed to 15 minutes, contrary to the 24h earlier. What kind of person proposed this change, I don't know. This short timespan barely left me with any time to test ADW EX, so I ended up asking a refund because I don't feel like buying a product I'm not sure I like.
In short: it's not the devs fault.
Liking it...
.. but doesnt feel faster to me compared to launcherpro
Yeah sure you can set the homescreen transitions to fly by alot quicker than you can in LP, but overall LP just feels smoother to me.
Apart from that, my currentwidget now hovers between 9-16ma in standby, where my phone was consistant between 6-9ma with LP.
Using HD2ONE 0.3.6
StephanV said:
The refund period recently changed to 15 minutes, contrary to the 24h earlier. What kind of person proposed this change, I don't know. This short timespan barely left me with any time to test ADW EX, so I ended up asking a refund because I don't feel like buying a product I'm not sure I like.
In short: it's not the devs fault.
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Oh ok thanks. I thought I still had 24h with the older market but i was wrong. 15mn is way too short!
Sichroteph said:
Oh ok thanks. I thought I still had 24h with the older market but i was wrong. 15mn is way too short!
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Certainly too short to really try a launcher that looks and acts seemingly like another one. Not enough time to find out any specific nuances that we may like.
In fairness though, I can't see any reason why anyone would change launchers to use this. They all look the same to me, with a few "little" features that hardly make the transition worthwhile.
Not knocking the app itself. Just don't get reinventing the wheel, and then releasing newer versions of it.
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Not knocking the app itself. Just don't get reinventing the wheel, and then releasing newer versions of it.
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Haha nicely worded.
been using LP for about 3 weeks now, love it, however i just got ADW, been using it for like 30 minutes, and extremely loving it.
The one important thing i noticed:
w/ 7 screens in LP fully packed w/ widgets,folder, apps...when you 'pinch' the screen to view the preview screens it stutters. Like it lags the first time you 'pinch' it, after that initial swipe, it is fine. This got really annoying, especially when coming out of sleep mode.
w/ 7 screens in ADW EX fully packed w/ widgets,folder, apps...when you 'pinch' it is still smooth as silk, coming out of sleep mode as well.
I'm still comparing the two for now, i'll keep you all updated
comparing both w/ DS's SupperRam 1.5
After 1,5 months of messing with adw, launcher pro, gb launcher, I've tried motoblur default and I'm amazed how fast it works. The scrolling is definitely the smoothest even with a live wallpaper, icon placements are done ok (when u want to rearrange them you don't have to move the first one first).
Too bad you can't replace the dock!!!
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wait a few weeks till Gingerbread comes out and the new blur will let you do it
I've seen the new blur and yes, it's better than the current! But few weeks, I don't think so, maybe for AT&T, but for Bell....
I even find the look of the dock cool, but it's just so dumb for them to have put contacts and a phone shortcut instead of phone and web browser.
facetubespam said:
wait a few weeks till Gingerbread comes out and the new blur will let you do it
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Are you actually able to change the dock image on the gingerbread blur update?
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Are you actually able to change the dock image on the gingerbread blur update?
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The dock is different. Instead of the dumb phone and contact shortcut + launcher circle set up that it is right now, it becomes four changeable shortcut icons and a launcher icon.
The dock is ok-ish... the fugly part is the fact that it changes to the dotted thingy when u flip the pages.
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neodoru said:
After 1,5 months of messing with adw, launcher pro, gb launcher, I've tried motoblur default and I'm amazed how fast it works. The scrolling is definitely the smoothest even with a live wallpaper, icon placements are done ok (when u want to rearrange them you don't have to move the first one first).
Too bad you can't replace the dock!!!
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I have the same impression. Blur is maybe the ugliest but the most stable and fastest. I tired all the other launchers and after a while they bugged me all either they were instable, choppy or bloated with functions that I don't use.
the new blur dock will only allow you to change the first 3 icons. The 4th icon is the appdrawer button that will not be changeable.
Also, the dots when swiping screens are gone, but be replaced by tiny dots on the bottom of the dock when you swipe through the screens, therefore not taking away your icons.
I don't think you're able to change the dock image, but you can change 3 of the 4 icons.
I've used all the launchers as well. The smoothest I've come across is the Go Launcher. Think I'm going to give blur a shot again too. Worse part about the blur launchers was definitely the stupid dot when changing pages.
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Gotta disagree that it's better than most 3rd party launchers.
For instance when you go from one homescreen to the next, you can't instantly go to the app drawer. Sure it's a second, but IMO it's still irritating. It's little things like that that ADD UP to why MotoBlur fails.
I've tried to go back a few times, and I still can't justify using MB over a 3rd party launcher like LP or Go.
I've also seen the upcoming changes with MB, and I'm still unimpressed. Sure it's better than the current state, but it's still bloatware that I need to freeze again.
Bottom Line - There's no good reason why Motorola should be using MotoBlur, when Vanilla Android is hands down the better choice. You have to question Motorola's "Intentions" of still committing to MB, when the vast majority of people want it removed...
I mean, saying that the "vast majority" of users would like to have it removed seems like an over-exaggeration.
People like us that even know that there are different launcher choices or that MotoBlur can be frozen are in the minority when it comes to the overall amount of people out there with an Atrix.
Truthfully, the "vast majority" of people with this phone are using it stock and are enjoying it just fine.
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I mean, saying that the "vast majority" of users would like to have it removed seems like an over-exaggeration.
People like us that even know that there are different launcher choices or that MotoBlur can be frozen are in the minority when it comes to the overall amount of people out there with an Atrix.
Truthfully, the "vast majority" of people with this phone are using it stock and are enjoying it just fine.
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Even XDA aside - Engaget, GSMArena, AndroidForums right off the top of my head pretty much feels the same too.
That doesn't include review sites such as TechRadar that bash it too.
Finally my friend is an Account Executive for AT&T and he even gets questions from customers of what they can "legally" do to remove it without voiding their warranty.
Part of the reason why many want the Bootloader gone is to strip MB down as much as possible.
MotoBlur was gimmicky enough for say the backflip, but it doesn't belong on a high end device...
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ha, looking forward for atrix with gingerbread
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neodoru said:
After 1,5 months of messing with adw, launcher pro, gb launcher, I've tried motoblur default and I'm amazed how fast it works. The scrolling is definitely the smoothest even with a live wallpaper, icon placements are done ok (when u want to rearrange them you don't have to move the first one first).
Too bad you can't replace the dock!!!
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I agreed. I've been testing many different launchers and motoblur is the only one that has no lag at all. The main thing that really makes me mad about it is that you cannot remove homescreens (I want only 4, no 7!). It would be cool if you could ad more apps to the dock, but I can live with that...not the homescreen though...and it's such a silly thing...
I've given up mb ... the dock and the ungrouped widgets are way too annoying! Playing with golauncher which is smooth but crashy.
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My buddy has gingerbread on his Droid X and its slow as balls. Hope ours is better.
I think that the Atrix will only be as fast as it can be once honeycomb is out. It has been said over and again that it's the only build that was actually thought of with dual core in mind.
Motorola shot its' own foot with the Atrix. It's unacceptable that this phone lags in day to day tasks where high end single core phones don't.
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I think that the Atrix will only be as fast as it can be once honeycomb is out. It has been said over and again that it's the only build that was actually thought of with dual core in mind.
Motorola shot its' own foot with the Atrix. It's unacceptable that this phone lags in day to day tasks where high end single core phones don't.
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Honeycomb is for tablets.
I do love changing my dock icons/shortcuts but i also love that with launcher pro i can change my grid size and the home screens rotate if i'm in landscape.
I do notice a slight lag when i rotate but nothing worth going back to blur for... at least not yet