[Q] Manila 2.5....QVGA? - Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General

So lately I've been seing threads, pics and vid clips of "Touchflo 3d, 2.5", but I also hear its Manila 2.5, and from the looks of it, since it lacks, animations and such, it could be a newer version of Manila.
Can someone input on this? i know that 3D does'nt work (properly) on my ELFin for the 3D drivers and graphics are really supported, but I'd really now a more "finger friendly" system like this 2.5.
Paul

I wouldn't count on it...

jadephyre said:
I wouldn't count on it...
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the only 3d part i could really see is the clock which can be changed so its possible isnt it?

im pretty sure its not as simple as changing the clock... Im pretty sure touchflo 3d 2.5 is programed to work best on the phones its going to b released on.... such as utilizing the open GL drivers, GPU's, faster processors etc.... therefore clock or no clock we still need openGL, faster processors
i could be wrong as im not technically experienced with manila but im sure those are reasonable limitations as to why it wont appear on QVGA devices

Um...I'm pretty sure there is animation and this is like saying convert something from WVGA to VGA to QVGA. Just think. Even right now, Touch HD and rhodium manila is not even QVGA. I would say the percentage of making 2.5 qvga would be 5%. VGA would be about 50%

NRG claims to be working on this...
Considering how we barely have the TF3D2 that has been out for a few months working 100% I don't expect to see this for quite awhile.
Not because it would be hard to port but because it is VERY likely HTC hasn't even finished it yet!
That seems to be part of the problem with the TF3D2 we already have...
xbmod was kind of forced to finish it for them.
And if TF3D2 is any indication we are going to need to port a lot more than just the manila before we get a working version of 2.5

in regards to processing power. the video link posted on another thread shows it running on a firestone. if I'm not mistaken that device will have a 600mhz lump powering it so other devices may struggle. less maybe the omnIa with its big core but that'sanother resolution to port to again!!

Will the Manilla 2.5 work on Att Fuze ?

Fuze
I think it should work on the Fuze (unless OS is an issue) according to HTC the specs on the Fuze and the Touch Pro2 hardware are similar. I'm just waiting to get the touch pro2 when I can, regardless of the manila.

ilordvader said:
Will the Manilla 2.5 work on Att Fuze ?
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webfrm said:
I think it should work on the Fuze (unless OS is an issue) according to HTC the specs on the Fuze and the Touch Pro2 hardware are similar. I'm just waiting to get the touch pro2 when I can, regardless of the manila.
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The new manila 2.5 is WVGA and so no, it will not work on the Fuze without being ported to VGA first.
I too have a Fuze as well as an HD. I'm sure it's easy enough to get working for the most part on the HD but the Fuze will be nearly impossible without porting first.

hayer said:
the only 3d part i could really see is the clock which can be changed so its possible isnt it?
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The are loads of 3D animations in TF 3D 2.5
Sascha

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Touch diamond for the touch cruise!!!!!

Ok guys i've been watching youtube videos for the HTC touch Diamond and the interface for that phone looks MUCH more promising than the interface of my HTC touch cruise... don't get me wrong I love my phone but for 720 bucks I think I could have gotten something more worth while..... Do you guys think it's possible to use the HTC Touch Diamond interface on the touch cruise??
I suggest you look at the current "Diamond" ROMS that are available that have been ported for the Polaris in this forum. obviously the HTC Diamond does have a faster Graphics chipset so you cannot compare speed tests.
The Diamond roms are, imo, not the Diamond interface which the topicstarter looks for. It just has an Diamond skin on WM6.1.
if anyone has an original Diamond ROM ported for the Polaris, i would certainly donate to that guy/woman....
What desiroxta is probably looking for is the tflo 3d... is not the only one wanting it. So far there is only the vga version. Polaris is qvga. So we will have to wait.
Not just wait for the qVGA resources but graphics acceleration as well as it relies on it. There are Manila (its codename) builds around, even qVGA ones and I think I'm safe to say, they dont work. 0.5-2fps isnt exactly what I'd describe as "working" in my vocabulary.
Toxic17 said:
I suggest you look at the current "Diamond" ROMS that are available that have been ported for the Polaris in this forum. obviously the HTC Diamond does have a faster Graphics chipset so you cannot compare speed tests.
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u mean the UDK diamond rom ? tat rom interface like DIAMOND ?
qz0123 said:
u mean the UDK diamond rom ? tat rom interface like DIAMOND ?
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nope, thats what ppl try to tell you..
some applications can be used, but interface, as you describe it, is not working.
its the main OS from MS that is ported, not the diamond interface

Touchflo 3d on xperia

Hi people i was wondering if throttlelauncher with touchflo 3d would work fine on an X1?
samme said:
Hi people i was wondering if throttlelauncher with touchflo 3d would work fine on an X1?
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tried it but very slow though in 20fps, manilla 2d is better...
smaberg said:
tried it but very slow though in 20fps, manilla 2d is better...
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Why would it be slow though? Doesnt the xperia have the same hardware as the Diamond?
Maybe the graphics drivers arent fully utilized!!
Can anyone try using the drivers from the Diamond in the Xperia? .. maybe the performance will increase.
Maybe it would even make the panels react faster!
thats weird since the hardware in the xperia is better then both the raphael and diamond. So the xperia should run touchflo 3d with ease.
do you mean that xperia doesn't have at all 3d drivers like touch dual?!?!
I hope that drivers could be ported from touchHD...
if that were true how would the x1 be able to even run the panels. sorry if i offend anybody but cut out the crap talk x1 can handle the touchflo 3d with ease if ported right.
the original poster was asking about throttle launcher not tf3d.
tl runs fine in realvga on my athena, so the hardware of the xperia should cope easily, but theres no settings for wvga as of yet, the author has promised a wqvga version soon which will scale up, but you can also do the xml yourself
thanks for the answer but maybe its better to wait for the touch hd and rip that touchflo since its the same size?
samme said:
thanks for the answer but maybe its better to wait for the touch hd and rip that touchflo since its the same size?
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I agree, tflo3d rulez

about The Manila 3D

I have htc touch cruise 09 with the manila 2D.
Can I Install manila 3D in my phone????
If I Can plz giv me the link for dawnload .
thank you so match
Manila 3D needs a 3D graphic-chip like in "Touch HD". The Iolite hasn´t it. So M3D from 3D-Devices will not work. Maybe some 3rd Party-apps will be coming soon with look´n feel like M3D, for instance SPB MobileShell 4 or PointUI 3? Or a software, that emulates the 3D-chip?
Wait for a bugfree Mobile7, it´s more important like M3D
Greetings!
Well, I am little confused now. I read thread OpenGL ES Test and some guy with Jade posted, that 3D test app works on his device. Doesn't Jade have same chipset (MSM7225) without dedicated graphic-chip as Iolite? Therefore there are two options, first is, that guy with Jade doesn't tell truth, second is, that 3D apps, like TF3D, should work on MSM7225, even without dedicated graphic-chip.
Btw. I don't think, we really need TF3D on Iolite. TF2D works pretty good and fast and with FingerSuite even better.
torrentonly said:
Well, I am little confused now. I read thread OpenGL ES Test and some guy with Jade posted, that 3D test app works on his device. Doesn't Jade have same chipset (MSM7225) without dedicated graphic-chip as Iolite? Therefore there are two options, first is, that guy with Jade doesn't tell truth, second is, that 3D apps, like TF3D, should work on MSM7225, even without dedicated graphic-chip..
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So i sad, the emulate-software.
torrentonly said:
Btw. I don't think, we really need TF3D on Iolite. TF2D works pretty good and fast and with FingerSuite even better.
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I´ll put ´n eye on this!
Greetings!
What a great tip!
FingerSuite works fine on Iolite! (without OpenGL!)
Download and user instructions - HERE!
Thanks for this tip!
Yes works perfect, I use it from the first day I bought this device, it's perfect.
And also pointui home 2 works flawlessly on lolite. I never used manila after that.

New manilla 2.5

Please check this images and video from new Manilla for HTC Firestone
http://wmpoweruser.com/?p=5321
Wow this is super!
Want it! On my diamond 1
I second this, want!
third that!
I will fourth that
But it looks pretty slow on that touch HD, so i think at the diamond it will be even worse?
Very useful!
Read that it's far from stable atm. I think that WVGA devices are the first to show Manila V2.5 before you'll see it on VGA devices like the Diamond.
I want it too!
Time to resize some of that
I hope HTC remembers us with vga displays.
I definitly like the looks of it.
wow! it's so nice. does exist somewhere?
this is ugly as hell. they placed 300 things in the manilla, and now it is getting complicating.
buttons and options all over the place!
I thought they stoped tf3d programming cause of sense....next generation of wm phones should use htc sense and not longer tf3d
I could hardly see WinMo which I don't know if it's a good thing or bad thing. Anyways, seeing this made me want to buy the diamond2 more.
any news about 2.5?

HTC firestone's touchflo3d 2.5 revealed

Heres a video guys of the new touchflo 3d 2.5 running on a touch hd, original story from wmpoweruser.com, heres the link
WTH....u gotta be kidding me...this looks absolutely nice..only thing is i like the home tab and contact tab on tf3d2
nice, extremly beautiful and useful but pretty slow(at leats in that rom)!
can i get this on my Diamond!!
man, this is looking really nice!!
this looks like a job for xboxmod
brilliant! this is SOOoo nice and practical, especially the home tab. Make perfect sense to integrate program tab there
It looks like a really good upgrade, but why is it called 3D?
Its clearly M2D with a different skin and some great additions...
agree its great upgrade but now the 3d contacts is gone
but honestly, the 3d effect in the contacts was only eye-candy. the grid layout is much more usable. you can access the contacts way faster. with the 3d layout you would have to flip through them or scroll down on the right list. I would prefer the new layout!
totally agree with you
That phone looks more like a Touch Pro 2 that an HD
Be curious to see how long it will take for it to be released to the current line of HTC phones.
Will this be the touchpro2 diamond2 winmo6.5 upgrade? Ive been wondering about that for ages...
New Htc Phone
It is the firestone, no blackstone (touch HD) the firestone is a new device, here is the link for the next phones of htc.
I agree. From what I gather, their upcoming released phones will have this new version but I would think EVENTUALLY it will come to Diamond2, TP2, etc..
At least I hope
Maikeu Locatelli said:
It is the firestone, no blackstone (touch HD) the firestone is a new device, here is the link for the next phones of htc.
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new manila 2.5 from firestone Excelent
very fast and now 100% fingerfrindly
more options EXCELENT
The next build of Manilla, TouchFlo3D 2.5, has been leaked, and this video shows it running on a HTC Touch HD. It continuous the replacement of the normal Windows Mobile UI, and it seems all parts of calendar and settings are now subsumed in the software.
Also new is HTC Footprints as an integral part of TF3D.
this is true ???? can´t wait for new Rom with manila 2.5
http://wmpoweruser.com/?p=5321&cpage=1#comment-28932
many thanks
Hi,
now more pictures from Manila 2.5.
with friendly greet
starbase64
Meh ill jump on this bandwagon. let me cap some screens and upload. Pocketnow, wmpoweruser, both have this article.
Schwacker said:
I agree. From what I gather, their upcoming released phones will have this new version but I would think EVENTUALLY it will come to Diamond2, TP2, etc..
At least I hope
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yeah, htc isn't too big on backwards mobility. the diamond and pro 1 didn't get tf3d 2.0., i'm somewhat skeptical that they'd change now.
however, with that having been said, there is something that may lend credence to why this may be available. all these new devices are WVGA, so it would be easier. as seen w. xbmod's port, wvga to vga is a bit*h to work.
starbase64 said:
Hi,
now more pictures from Manila 2.5.
with friendly greet
starbase64
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Cool. Thanks for the link! Man, I'm really anxious for this release. The Calendar, new Today, and Contacts are great.
That's one part of Mobile Shell 3.0 that I miss is that Contacts screen. I prefer the picture/contact layout that's in MBS 3.0 and, it appears, in the new 3D 2.5 format.

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