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Is Topaz is available for sale for US UMTS bands? In all the online shops i see this phone only with UMTS 900 and 2100. I am planning to buy one but i dont see one with UMTS 850 and 1900.
I'm still waiting for 850mhz. It clearly isn't out yet.
3G for AT&T US?
Does anyone have any info on whether and if yes, when, the Topaz will be offered with the US 3G bands??
I'm Not sure which bands AT&T uses seeing I'm with T-mobile but here are the bands the phone has.
GSM(900+1800)+UMTS(900+2100)
GSM(1900+850)+UMTS(1900+850)
UMTS(2100+800)
3G on T-mobile does not work but I don't mind because Edge is fast enough for me. I had faster loading times on Webpages yesterday than my freind with a touch pro on Sprint's 3G. So ya. I don't know anyone with AT&T or else I'd throw the SIM in and try it.
HTC Touch Freak said:
I'm Not sure which bands AT&T uses seeing I'm with T-mobile but here are the bands the phone has.
GSM(900+1800)+UMTS(900+2100)
GSM(1900+850)+UMTS(1900+850)
UMTS(2100+800)
3G on T-mobile does not work but I don't mind because Edge is fast enough for me. I had faster loading times on Webpages yesterday than my freind with a touch pro on Sprint's 3G. So ya. I don't know anyone with AT&T or else I'd throw the SIM in and try it.
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If that is correct -----the UMTS 1900+850 part----- then those are the AT&T 3G frequencies. Where did you see those bands?
mush10 said:
If that is correct -----the UMTS 1900+850 part----- then those are the AT&T 3G frequencies. Where did you see those bands?
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If you go to Settings/All Settings/Personal/Phone/Click on the Band Tab it is under the Selet your GSM/UMTS band.
If I go to the mall today I will stop by the AT&T store and see if someone there is willing to insert their SIM in it to see if it gets 3G. If so I will post up.
HTC Touch Freak said:
If you go to Settings/All Settings/Personal/Phone/Click on the Band Tab it is under the Selet your GSM/UMTS band.
If I go to the mall today I will stop by the AT&T store and see if someone there is willing to insert their SIM in it to see if it gets 3G. If so I will post up.
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That is great!! If you can check and let us know that would be a great help!!
Is UMTS band availability is all software/firmware related.. i thought thats hardware.
having those band settings does not mean it will work on US 3G networks. for example, the UK Touch HD (from the UK) has the same band listings as above but the radio doesn't support at&t's 3G bands (850/1900). it will work for voice and EDGE internet speeds without issue. it's a hardare limitation. 3 months after releasing the UK HD, HTC released a Telstra (Australia) version of the Touch HD that had the same band listings (as above) that works with 850 3G bands. Since Telstra uses the same 850 3G band that at&t uses, the Telstra HD can access at&t's 3G network. i'm speaking from fact because i have both the UK and Telstra HD versions.
HTC is known for relasing the same device with radio limitations: they did it with the Diamond, Touch Pro, Touch HD and they're doing it for the Diamond 2. if you want US 3G access - via at&t - on the Diamond 2 you'll have to wait until HTC releases the US 3G version.
cortez.i said:
having those band settings does not mean it will work on US 3G networks. for example, the UK Touch HD (from the UK) has the same band listings as above but the radio doesn't support at&t's 3G bands (850/1900). it will work for voice and EDGE internet speeds without issue. it's a hardare limitation. 3 months after releasing the UK HD, HTC released a Telstra (Australia) version of the Touch HD that had the same band listings (as above) that works with 850 3G bands. Since Telstra uses the same 850 3G band that at&t uses, the Telstra HD can access at&t's 3G network. i'm speaking from fact because i have both the UK and Telstra HD versions.
HTC is known for relasing the same device with radio limitations: they did it with the Diamond, Touch Pro, Touch HD and they're doing it for the Diamond 2. if you want US 3G access - via at&t - on the Diamond 2 you'll have to wait until HTC releases the US 3G version.
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This clarifies. Thanks friend. Do you aware of any news on when HTC might release the D2 for US?
verified today.... does not work on at&t. the guys at the store said that it is 1900/900 band not 850. 850od the 2g frequency. havnt checked on how correct they are on this but a quick google search will verify the frequencies.
A reply from HTC
See the reply from them below. HTC did not mention about any carrier like ATT or T-Mobile asked for this phone.. looks like this phone will never make it to US? That is a Bad news......
From: Jonathan [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Wednesday, May 06, 2009 12:54 AM
To: Natarajan, Sundaram
Subject: Re: HTC Diamond 2 <<#15569-73859#>>
Hello Sundaram,
Thank you for your inquiry about the Touch Diamond 2.
We appreciate your inquiry about one of our new phones. Unfortunately, we do not remake our phones to work on a specific network, such as the AT&T 1900 band width, unless that carrier request us to make them that exact phone. If you do buy the Touch Diamond 2, we cannot guarantee 3G service since AT&T 3G band is 1900 while the Touch Diamond 2's 3G band is 2100.
I hope we have answered your question in detail. Feel free to contact us again if you have any further questions.
Thanks for contacting HTC,
HTC Technical Support
http://www.htc.com
http://www.htcwiki.com
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From: "Natarajan, Sundaram"
Received: 5/5/09 11:17:17 PM EDT
To: <[email protected]>
Subject: HTC Diamond2
Dear Sir/Madam,
I own a HTC TyTn II and HTC Fuze (ATT) and now planning to upgrade my smart phone to HTC Diamond 2. I am really impressed with this phone and ready to purchase one. I live in USA and have a question about the 3G band availability of HTC Diamond 2. The phone is available in many online stores but they all have a specification like below.
Operating Frequency:
HSDPA/WCDMA: Europe/Asia: 900/2100 MHz
Does this mean that I cannot use this phone for ATT 3G networks in USA? Does HTC manufacture HTC Diamond 2 for US 3G band which I believe are 850/1900 MHz?
Is there any planned date of releasing HTC Diamond2 for ATT 3G networks? I appreciate your response.
Thanks
The Diamond 2 IS COMING TO THE US WITH 3G SUPPORT in a few months. Stop this nonsense please.
MAK11 said:
The Diamond 2 IS COMING TO THE US WITH 3G SUPPORT in a few months. Stop this nonsense please.
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What makes you to visit this topic and through a comment like this? I was not asking "you" this.
Besides, I am not working at ATT or HTC but trying to see if any other member of this forum has any news about this. If you dont like this topic just dont visit it and try to change your attitude. Otherwise you will become a great looser (i guess you already are).
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The Diamond 2 IS COMING TO THE US WITH 3G SUPPORT in a few months. Stop this nonsense please.
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Clearly that is a pretty general statement that I believe most of us find to be true. That being said, do you have any more insight?
If it's coming to the US with 3G I would just assume that it would hit Sprint first so still no luck for AT&T. Didn't ATT just get the FUZE in like Dec? Anyways the phone most likely to hit US carriers is The Pro2. Americans generaly (IMO) like a full Hard qwerty keyboard.
This was floating around a few months ago
http://www.wmexperts.com/htcs-entire-2009-lineup-leaked
Shows the topaz going to AT&T. I'm not sure how valid it is though, but it's something to cling to
Even if it does come to AT&T, I hope we see the unlocked version well before. HTC used to be the one company we could count on to deliver US 3G on newer releases. Now we seem to be stuck playing the waiting game. The odd thing is they released the TYTN and such when the 3G network was barely rolled out, now that it at least covers all major cities, we cannot get any love.
I have been waiting a long time for this
Word is "HTC Topaz 210" (AT&T warhawk) will be released next month /(october) with the 850mHz UMTS "7201" chip (instead of the "7200" 900/2100 UMTS chip)
It will also be slightly smaller (1 mm less longer and wider)
I may drop around here if HTC beats the drum with this one
PS: sorry for resurrecting an ole thread, but we american users really miss good HTC 850mHz phones
I too am waiting for the US version of D2. gtrab, where did yo uget the info that US D2 will be slightly smaller. The latest info was from BG but I don't remember him mentioning any other spec except the obvious 850/1900 implementation.
So I'm in a contract with Telus for the next 2.5 years (CDMA), and I'm lusting after the HTC HD2.
Recently, Telus deployed their "3G+" network. From cross-referencing the phones that work on their 3G+ network, as well as the specs on the website, I've gathered that the requirements are UMTS 850 and 1900, both of which the US version of the HD2, which is apparently coming in March has.
So, my question is this: Will the US version of the HTC HD2, apparently coming in March work with the Telus 3G+ network?
As a total aside, is the HTC HD2 going to be released with a CDMA antenna, like the TP2 (which is what I have now, and which can't get on the 3G+ network -- supposedly -- because it only supports UMTS 2100)?
Hi. So I finally decided to purchase my first Android OS based phone. At the moment, the two phones available to me and in my price range (used, $200 and under,) are the Samsung I5700 Galaxy Spica and HTC Magic (plus a Hero I found for very cheap.)
Custom ROMs aren't too important to me, the stock apps (browser, calender, SMS,) built into Android easily meet my needs, but the Spica's spec sheet is very nice. Obviously the Magic/Hero is fairly dated now, so it doesn't really match up. But the Spica's 3G radio is not compatible with Canadian providers. I need a phone that I can switch from network to network here in Canada. Two to 3 years plans are out of my means currently, plus I don't really like contracts.
I guess what I'm really asking for is: is the Spica worth potentially paying more money for - is its support for Divx, its form factor, its display and its beefier CPU worth an extra $5 a month? Or should I just settle for a Magic/Hero?
EDIT: According to GSM Arena there's a NA version that supports, HSDPA 850 / 1900. Can I verify what bands the Spica supports by checking a menu in Android?
I have a non-NA Spica in Canada. The only networks it doesn't work for are Windmobile and Mobilicity because they use 1700MHz.
Right. And the other UTMS networks available all operate on 850/1900. So if you're using the non-NA version, which has HSDPA 900/2100, you wouldn't be able to use any 3G network in Canada? Please correct me if I'm wrong, I'm just learning this stuff at the moment.
Personally, I'm going to go with either Koodo or Solo, because at the moment, because of where I'm at, they have the best available prepaid plan.
There are 2 versions of the Spica and 3 of the Magic -
Magic: Rogers, T-Mobile USA (myTouch 3G), international
Spica: Rogers, international
As it would suggest, the Rogers versions of each of these phones works on the Rogers 3G network, as well as that of Telus, Bell and now Sasktel, as well as all of their subsidiaries, such as Solo, Koodo, Virgin, Fido, etc.
The T-Mobile USA myTouch will work with Wind Mobile, Videotron and Moblicity, providing you're in one of their coverage areas. Otherwise it will work with Rogers (and Fido) on their 2G network.
The international (anywhere but North America) versions of these phones won't work on any 3G network in Canada, so you can use only Rogers (and Fido) on 2G.
Similarly, there are 3 versions of the Hero, a Telus one that will work with Rogers, Telus and Bell; an international one that will work with Rogers on 2G and a Sprint one (that looks cooler too) that will only work with Sprint in the US, and doesn't take a SIM card.
Hope this helps
Question for the collective wisdom of the group:
I bought an unlocked T-Mobile HTC G2 off of ebay thinking it was the same as a regular Desire Z. Phone is great, but 3G does not work in my home country (Honduras). Is there anyway to change the data frequency on the phone?
Thanks in advance
AE
loaferoatan said:
Question for the collective wisdom of the group:
I bought an unlocked T-Mobile HTC G2 off of ebay thinking it was the same as a regular Desire Z. Phone is great, but 3G does not work in my home country (Honduras). Is there anyway to change the data frequency on the phone?
Thanks in advance
AE
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No, not possible.
Sent from my T-Mobile G2 using XDA App
NAM version of Desire Z
Someone told me that I need the NAM Desire Z (850mhz) to be able to use with my local network...Am i really stuck with Edge with my T-mobile G2?
loaferoatan said:
Someone told me that I need the NAM Desire Z (850mhz) to be able to use with my local network...Am i really stuck with Edge with my T-mobile G2?
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Yes. The G2 and the DZ use different bands for data, so you will not be able to get 3G or 4G from it.
loaferoatan said:
Someone told me that I need the NAM Desire Z (850mhz) to be able to use with my local network...Am i really stuck with Edge with my T-mobile G2?
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Unfortunatly yes, you are stuck if you keep the G2, best bet sell it an get a HTC A7275 Desire Z NAM, this model supports (850mhz). This is the only model Desire Z that supports this frequency. It has to ba a A7275 model. Bell Canada sell this model and some other online electrionc vendors.
There are AT LEAST THREE different variations on the VISION hardware, supporting different frequency sets. The AWS version debranded by tmobile, is capable of upload on 1700 (used in US and Canada) or 1900 (used in Europe) MHz, download on 2100.
For info, since this comes up a lot, I have updated the Wiki with the information about which radio bands are supported by which Vision model - http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=HTC_Vision#Radio_Bands
As other have indicated, you are stuck on EDGE. The MHz compatibility is a function of the hardware, and therefore can't be changed. Always research the heck out of the device before buying anything that is unlocked or otherwise not from your carrier.
If your wireless provider uses "standard" north american frequencies like AT&T USA, Bell Mobility Canada, and Rogers Wireless Canada, you need the Desire Z p/n: 99HLW020. Phones that are p/n: 99HLW021 are T-Mobile USA only.
halfinn said:
If your wireless provider uses "standard" north american frequencies like AT&T USA, Bell Mobility Canada, and Rogers Wireless Canada, you need the Desire Z p/n: 99HLW020. Phones that are p/n: 99HLW021 are T-Mobile USA only.
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"Standard"? It would help if there was such a thing. In most of Europe and in Japan, they only use one network type and frequency (instead of mish-moshing GSM and CDMA and different frequencies). As long as your phone is SIM unlocked, you can use your device on any carrier. That's how it should be.
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If your wireless provider uses "standard" north american frequencies like AT&T USA, Bell Mobility Canada, and Rogers Wireless Canada, you need the Desire Z p/n: 99HLW020. Phones that are p/n: 99HLW021 are T-Mobile USA only.
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How do those 3 together make it standard? There are 3 providers using UMTS on GSM and PCS (which you've listed), there are more than 3 using AWS.... tmobile, globalive, mobilicity, and videotron running now... and more coming soon... as well, ALL of the providers you've mentioned OWN AWS spectrum, and at least ATT is apparently planning on using it.... (robelus just bought a bunch of it up to block out competition... the bastards.)
So seems to me that AWS is more "standard" than GSM or PCS spectrum.
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How do those 3 together make it standard? There are 3 providers using UMTS on GSM and PCS (which you've listed), there are more than 3 using AWS.... tmobile, globalive, mobilicity, and videotron running now... and more coming soon... as well, ALL of the providers you've mentioned OWN AWS spectrum, and at least ATT is apparently planning on using it.... (robelus just bought a bunch of it up to block out competition... the bastards.)
So seems to me that AWS is more "standard" than GSM or PCS spectrum.
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Yeah, I don't know if calling it the standard for North American frequencies is completely right (though I believe in terms of numbers of users/towers instead of number of providers, it actually might be but I'd have to go research to be sure---most manufactures refer to their North American versions of phones as using these frequencies as well). I would say however, it is pretty much the standard for the Americas. Almost all of Central and South American use 850/1900 as well. AWS is limited to only the the US and Canada (I believe).
I bought the phone off of amazon originally to use with my AT&T 3G lol but it was the wrong model BUT will it work with Tmobile 3G
If i remember correctly, the Canadian and Euro versions (Desire Z) are "world phones" which carry compatibility with all GSM bands in the world. The T-Mobile G2 is the same hardware but only has the compatibility of T-Mobile's GSM bands.
To see which one you have, check the battery cover. If it has "G2" then you have T-Mobile's version. If you have just "HTC" with "with Google" on the bottom, you have the Desire Z version.
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If i remember correctly, the Canadian and Euro versions (Desire Z) are "world phones" which carry compatibility with all GSM bands in the world. The T-Mobile G2 is the same hardware but only has the compatibility of T-Mobile's GSM bands.
To see which one you have, check the battery cover. If it has "G2" then you have T-Mobile's version. If you have just "HTC" with "with Google" on the bottom, you have the Desire Z version.
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T-mobile runs on different bands than most European carriers though. It depends on the exact model he has. T-Mo runs on 1700/2100mhz for 3G. AT&T runs on 850/1900.
He actually stated which version he had---the A7272, which is the European version. This version is not compatible with 3G for AT&T (which he found out) or T-Mobile. It will work with 3G pretty everywhere in the world outside of the Americas though.
The Canadian/NAM version is the A7275. It works with 3G on AT&T, most of the rest of the Americas and parts of Australia, but not elsewhere in the world for the most part.
Sell it and get the desire z