Replace BT Stack - Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps

Hi there,
is it possible to install an alternative BT stack on the TP2? I can't pair with a BT mouse and keyboard and want to try if replacing BT stack might solve this?
I guess grabbing another stack from another model might brick my phone or isn't that so risky
Tnx.. Marco

I replaced the bt stack on my Hermes once.
It did work but it kinda wrecked my wm 6.1 install, causing horrible performance.
I guess (esp at this moment) your best bet is to get the current bt stack to work with your devices.
I personally love the new BT stack, the default microsoft stack doesn't seem to support anything and is incredibly slow.

Stoway BT drivers can be downloaded here it probably doesnt have direct support for the Rhodium, but if you check which other devices used a Widcomm Stack, then it should work.
Cheers,
Beasty

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Magician (Qtek S110) Bluetooth Upgrade

Hi I've been looking through the forum for the last couple of days and I'm really impressed by the great tips and downloads etc.
Anyway I have a question regarding the Bluetooth configuration /connectivity options available on the S110. In comparison to my other devices the Bluetooth on the S110 sucks.
So I'd like to install the Widcomm version, I've tried the bluetooth_GPS.cab but it fails to initialise the bluetooth stack, so the question is has anyone been able to install and overwrite the current Bluetooth on the Magician?
Any help will be greatly appreciated!
sorry to inform u that the Widcomm Bt stack does not work on the Magician
there is another Bt stack made By toshiba ( for it's own PPC ) and it works on the Magician and adds alot of new profiles missing from the M$ stack , but it's not stable.
I guess I M$ Stack sucks, but you'll get used to it...
cheers

Help needed: How to pair bluetooth without SDP signal?

Hey all,
I'm trying to pair a PPC with SonyEricsson's bluetooth watch MBW-150 to use moneytoo's brilliant SmartWatchM. This worked fine with my old PPC running the Microsoft bluetooth stack. My new PPC (LG KS20) uses the Widcomm/Broadcom stack, believed to be cleverer than the MS stack.
Here's the problem:
The PPC will not pair. The watch does not send out information according to the BT Service Discovery Protocol (SDP), because it was never meant to be paired with anything else than SE phones. The Microsoft stack didn't care and paired nonetheless. The Widcomm/Broadcom stack, however, will pair with BT devices only if it finds a supported profile. The watch uses the Serial Port Profile (SPP), but it doesn't say so, not sending any SDP information to the PPC. The PPC would support SPP of course, but doesn't pair as it has no way of knowing that the watch supports this profile.
In the end, when I try to pair, the PPC will see the watch but doesn't know what to do with it, and will not pair.
Is there any way of pairing (using a Widcomm/Broadcom stack) without SDP information? Can I enforce pairing with the watch? (I can easily insert serial port settings in the reg manually.)
Or can I somehow change my BT stack? I've read that the only way to do that would mean changing the ROM ... :-(
Any ideas? Any help would be greatly appreciated!
Many thanks,
N.
I'm using 32feet.NET library that supports only MS BT Stack. Fortunately I have just found this lib http://franson.com/bluetools/ that seems to support Widcomm Stack. I will try it soon.
EDIT:
What BT stack is on it? Is it Broadcom? Widcomm on Motorola Q9 is ok and lets you to pair device without any service but Broadcom on a one HP iPAQ I have tested doesnt.
EDIT2:
Not a good news. Franson Bluetools doesnt work on smartphones. I dont know much about this stuff but from what I have read it seems like pairing/bonding request is possible only in MS BT stack (via some non official function) and it's disabled in other BT stacks because of security issues.
Thanks for chiming in, moneytoo!
moneytoo said:
What BT stack is on it? Is it Broadcom? Widcomm on Motorola Q9 is ok and lets you to pair device without any service but Broadcom on a one HP iPAQ I have tested doesnt.
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This may be a noob question but: How do I tell whether it's Broadcom or Widcomm? Is there still a difference since Broadcom bought Widcomm?
Anyway, BT manager will not pair ("no supported protocol found").
moneytoo said:
it seems like pairing/bonding request is possible only in MS BT stack (via some non official function) and it's disabled in other BT stacks because of security issues.
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I'm afraid that's true. I haven't found anything so far that would point me to a workaround, backdoor or anything - and as my KS20 is a company phone I can hardly change the ROM
Let's hope someone comes up with an idea!

Widcomm Bluetooth Stack

Hello,
Does somebody know if there is any HTC device that use the Widcomm BT stack instead of standard Microsoft stack?
Thanks,
Emil.
emilbergg said:
Hello,
Does somebody know if there is any HTC device that use the Widcomm BT stack instead of standard Microsoft stack?
Thanks,
Emil.
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Unfortunately the Touch Pro 2/Tilt 2 does. Why in the world would you want it? Nothing seems to work with it.. Several of my programs that use bluetooth don't detect anything.
I'm writing a BT application and I want to be sure that it works also on devices with the Widcomm stack.
Maybe there is a wrapper for the Widcomm stack that let all BT applications be compatible with it?
Why the OEMs use this stack instead of Microsoft's?
Chip
emilbergg said:
I'm writing a BT application and I want to be sure that it works also on devices with the Widcomm stack.
Maybe there is a wrapper for the Widcomm stack that let all BT applications be compatible with it?
Why the OEMs use this stack instead of Microsoft's?
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Hi emilbergg
It's to do with the chip that they use for the device. The Broadcomm chip requires the Widcomm software. Essentially, it's a driver issue. Different chip, different driver. I'm guessing the choice of chip is made on a mixture of functionality and cost.
Cheers
andrew-in-woking

Anyone tried to install MS Bluetooth Stack?

Anyone tried to install MS Bluetooth Stack?
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Anyone tried to install MS Bluetooth Stack?
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Nope, and that question has never been asked before.
and to add to that, widcomm stack traditionally is way better than ms stack. I'm not sure the reason for undoing what's in the HD2.
I asked HTC this same question as the WIDCOMM stack has made this phone incompatible with both my car handsfree and PC bluetooth dongle so can't use it for anything I need to. Unfortunately they didn't say much apart from they're going to pass this back as an issue and hopefully an update will be made available to allow connection with standard equipment. All of my previous phone's worked perfectly with both devices.

Anyone tried to install MS Bluetooth Stack?

Anyone tried to install MS Bluetooth Stack?
I dont think you can just "install" a BT stack.... although I wish you could...
it is possible tbough with a lot of driver modifications.
For sure it will be required to cook the MS bluetooth stack into the ROM instead of just install, but many other parts of the rom are using the widcomm stack so it will be a big job.
Its a shame, because i found the sound via A2DP was better via the MS stack, and other users have found the widcomm stack unreliable with car kits or hands free headsets.
I think a better approach would be for a updated widcomm stack
whether they update the widcomm stack, or change it for MS, I don't care, I just wish HTC would hurry up and do it... so many people have problems with it.
I've tried and failed... The Leo and the Rhodium use different BT/Wifi chipsets that arent compatible with the MS BT Stack
Oh dear, that doesn't sound good.
Thank you very much for trying to do it anyway NRG.
NRGZ28 said:
I've tried and failed... The Leo and the Rhodium use different BT/Wifi chipsets that arent compatible with the MS BT Stack
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Not compatible....
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