I have set up my XDA with the XDA-developers SE ROM v1.1, and setup the wireless modem exactly as per the O2 instructions - and it works - I can surf and collect e-mail on my laptop via the xda!
But it's quite slow, and WinXP reports the connection as 9.6kbps. It seems a bit faster than that, and I obviously do have a GPRS connection, but is there anything I can do to speed it up?
Many thanks in advance
Geoff
gwhitea said:
I have set up my XDA with the XDA-developers SE ROM v1.1, and setup the wireless modem exactly as per the O2 instructions - and it works - I can surf and collect e-mail on my laptop via the xda!
But it's quite slow, and WinXP reports the connection as 9.6kbps. It seems a bit faster than that, and I obviously do have a GPRS connection, but is there anything I can do to speed it up?
Many thanks in advance
Geoff
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Contact O2 as it should be a network issue. You must also bear in mind that many networks set priority for voice over data (for obvious reasons), and therefore you may find ridiculous speeds on GPRS during Peak Hour. Check out the speeds at night, for example, and try finding a bandwidth meter on the net. There's one that I used (I forget which one, exactly) and I've clocked my XDA at 39 kbps on one partcular occassion. However, all these vary from network to network and I find the average speeds available on my network (where GPRS is still in implementation stage) to be round about 18 - 20 kbps.
Cheers
Santhosh
Hi,
The speed reported by XP is the interface speed. I use the Infrared port and it shows 9.6 as well.
This is not the GPRS Speed, but the IR speed.
regards,
Silver
I am seeing exactly the same results here in the US with T-Mobile. It is obviously much slower than using GPRS on the device itself. It appears as if either it is not bonding multiple channels, or somehow the IR/virtual com has restricted itself to 9600.
I'm not sure if this is normal or not. I just got my Cingular 8125 and the wifi is very slow. I don't know how to measure the actual speed but for instance on my broadband connection, going to Google.com opens up in about a second. On dial up it takes about 5 seconds. However, on my phone using wifi, it takes about 20 seconds. When using wifi on my laptop, it is comparable to my broadband speeds my router is connected to.
I have pretty slow GPRS service as well and wifi is comparable.
I get the same slow speed on 802.11b as well as 802.11g networks (g network with registry hack)
Is this normal? The wifi speeds with the unit brand new out of the box was very slow. I flashed the rom and even overclocked to 240, the wifi internet is still painfully slow. I don't really find this useable. If I go to a page with images and such it can take a minute or so.
Anyone have any suggestions? Are others getting good speed on wifi. I tested by watching a streaming video and the speed shown on the bottom of windows media was 18k.
Were my expectations too high? Is there a setting I have incorrect?
IdeaDirect said:
I'm not sure if this is normal or not. I just got my Cingular 8125 and the wifi is very slow. I don't know how to measure the actual speed but for instance on my broadband connection, going to Google.com opens up in about a second. On dial up it takes about 5 seconds. However, on my phone using wifi, it takes about 20 seconds. When using wifi on my laptop, it is comparable to my broadband speeds my router is connected to.
I have pretty slow GPRS service as well and wifi is comparable.
I get the same slow speed on 802.11b as well as 802.11g networks (g network with registry hack)
Is this normal? The wifi speeds with the unit brand new out of the box was very slow. I flashed the rom and even overclocked to 240, the wifi internet is still painfully slow. I don't really find this useable. If I go to a page with images and such it can take a minute or so.
Anyone have any suggestions? Are others getting good speed on wifi. I tested by watching a streaming video and the speed shown on the bottom of windows media was 18k.
Were my expectations too high? Is there a setting I have incorrect?
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Always best to be sure that you are actually using the wifi connection - Try disconnecting the gprs first before you connect to wifi. I have an issue where if I leave my gprs connection enabled all the time it takes precedence over my wifi no matter what.
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Always best to be sure that you are actually using the wifi connection - Try disconnecting the gprs first before you connect to wifi. I have an issue where if I leave my gprs connection enabled all the time it takes precedence over my wifi no matter what.
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Tried that but still no luck. When connected by wifi, I see the little wifi icon on the title bar. When connecting to GPRS, it shows the E and actually a pop-up saying it is connecting to GPRS. This part is actually working great. Uses wifi by default when wifi is on and GPRS is not.
I did try to disable GPRS entirely but still get the same slow results.
I also changed the wifi setting to maximize performance instead of save battery life. Didn't seem to matter.
I may experiment with Opera Mini or something to see if I can get some improved speeds.
no problems with wifi here. getting a faster connection than GPRS, even at hotspots.
I had a problem with my wifi connection in that the DHCP server giving out an incorrect address for one of the DNS servers. This made the wifi slow, because Internet Explorer kept on trying to lookup the IP of a host using the broken DNS, and then falling back to the second in the list.
You try specifying a DNS server manually to diagnose the problem.
Cingular 8125 WiFi Fix that works!
Believe it or not the support for this product from HTC, the mfgr, is great and fast! That being said, I like most users have spent days hunting for solutions to the problem and you will not find them anywhere. But here is the solution:
First you must have an unlimited account for data usage or forget your WiFi...well at least simply. Also, you must get Cingular to flip a switch for your 8125 to automatically switch from WiFi to GPRS and back depending on what is the best signal. It works great once the switch is set.
The only way I found to do this was to call support and make sure you get to the HTC support group. They will guide you quickly through getting setup but you must tell them about the switch so they call Cingular and have the switch set. For some reason Cingular, no surprise, does not seem to know about this when they sell you the plan and the phone.
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mostinc said:
Believe it or not the support for this product from HTC, the mfgr, is great and fast! That being said, I like most users have spent days hunting for solutions to the problem and you will not find them anywhere. But here is the solution:
First you must have an unlimited account for data usage or forget your WiFi...well at least simply. Also, you must get Cingular to flip a switch for your 8125 to automatically switch from WiFi to GPRS and back depending on what is the best signal. It works great once the switch is set.
The only way I found to do this was to call support and make sure you get to the HTC support group. They will guide you quickly through getting setup but you must tell them about the switch so they call Cingular and have the switch set. For some reason Cingular, no surprise, does not seem to know about this when they sell you the plan and the phone.
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Thank you so much. This sounds like the solution I'm looking for. So are you saying to call HTC support and they will contact Cingular to have the switch set on my behalf?? Or do I just call Cingular and tell them to "turn the switch on"?
I do have an unlimited GPRS for data usage.
what a crock of steaming brown stuff :x .... what exactly does wifi have to do with your telco? ... nothing. There maybe some registry entry that Cingular have set when the device ships which causes poor WiFi speeds but your GPRS data plan has nothing to do with WiFi data, unless you are talking about connecting to Cingular WiFi hotspots. The only changes needed will be on your device not within the Telco network.
before calling support, try this:
Go to comm mgr and turn off the phone. Then turn on WiFi and let it connect. Check your speed with www.2wire.com. If your speed is still slow, and another PC connected to that HotSpot isn't (test the PC with 2wire also) then your 8125 is bad.
Using the WiFi icon v.s. the "E" icon is no way to determine what wireless system you're using btw...
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before calling support, try this:
Go to comm mgr and turn off the phone. Then turn on WiFi and let it connect. Check your speed with www.2wire.com. If your speed is still slow, and another PC connected to that HotSpot isn't (test the PC with 2wire also) then your 8125 is bad.
Using the WiFi icon v.s. the "E" icon is no way to determine what wireless system you're using btw...
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Ok, I tried 2wire. My laptop connected to my wifi network and clocks in at 3.2Mbps and my 8125 is showing 221 kbps. multiple tests showed 228, 205, 220). Perhaps it is unrealistic to expect similar speed as my laptop.
I turned the com manager phone back on and connected via GPRS and the speed test came back at 64.8 kbps.
So it does look like this method is working. I can live with 221 kbps.
By the way, I emailed Cingular and HTS. I got the following response from Cingular:
Thank you for contacting Data Support!
There is an additional setting that you need to enable/disable manually every time you switch between GPRS and Wi Fi, please take a look at it:
[they sent a link to a page not found]
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I think it's always going to be slow because of the way the phone is designed. Probably small bus interface. My friend has a 6700 wich cpu wise is pretty much the same based on comparison but his is much faster through wifi.
"I think it's always going to be slow because of the way the phone is designed. Probably small bus interface. My friend has a 6700 wich cpu wise is pretty much the same based on comparison but his is much faster through wifi."
No no no no no no and no.
small bus interface? for heavens sake... you have heard that there is something called a "bus" inside computers and that it is used to "transfer data" and this "bus interface" is small in the qtek so it is a viable candidate to blame slow transfers on.
no.
any memory bus designed after 1980 is capable of 200kbit transfers.
the main reason for the horrid speed of the 9100 is the stupid software design where every system call in a program gets interrupted by the os which in turn, after checking who-knows-what, in the name of "security" and "stability", and then executed. Of course this hinders performance dramaticaly without affecting stability and security a single bit: it still crashes. the difference is that it is also slow.
I'm running Xelencin's custom 2.17 ROM for T-mobile on my 8125. His ROM sets the device up to work with an 802.11 g wifi connection. I kid you not - I have measured 900 to 1200 Kbps on my wifi at home (comcast) and at work (T1). It's blazing fast.
To measure your speed, go to www.dslreports.com. Click on the lowfi version at the top of the page. Then click on speed test. Then choose either 600K or 1 MB and then let it do the test.
You may have some setting wrong.
I have an 'adhoc' wireless network (running at 11Mbs) and i stream large lossless (FLAC) audio files to my Squeezebox 3 wireless music player with no issues whatsoever.
However, the MDA can't cope at all. FLAC files play great from the MiniSD, but wifi performance is worse than terrible.
Yes, the wifi speed of the MDA is s**t.
That said, if anyone has any tips on how to increase perfomance please let me know!
Thanks.
My Wifi would not work at all when I updated my ROM but this utility fixed that and sped things up. I recommend backing up your device before executing because I have only tried this on QTEK 9100 with a beta 2.8 ROM.
tsiros said:
"I think it's always going to be slow because of the way the phone is designed. Probably small bus interface. My friend has a 6700 wich cpu wise is pretty much the same based on comparison but his is much faster through wifi."
No no no no no no and no.
small bus interface? for heavens sake... you have heard that there is something called a "bus" inside computers and that it is used to "transfer data" and this "bus interface" is small in the qtek so it is a viable candidate to blame slow transfers on.
no.
any memory bus designed after 1980 is capable of 200kbit transfers.
the main reason for the horrid speed of the 9100 is the stupid software design where every system call in a program gets interrupted by the os which in turn, after checking who-knows-what, in the name of "security" and "stability", and then executed. Of course this hinders performance dramaticaly without affecting stability and security a single bit: it still crashes. the difference is that it is also slow.
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Excuse me for my ignorance... But then how do you explain that the 6700 can handle 700kb wireless while 9100's usually around 220kB? The Intel proc on the 6700 seems comparable to the Omap,no?
keitht said:
My Wifi would not work at all when I updated my ROM but this utility fixed that and sped things up. I recommend backing up your device before executing because I have only tried this on QTEK 9100 with a beta 2.8 ROM.
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What exactly does this cab change?
Reconfiguring DNS may make a significant improvement?
I came across your post after my own concerns with my I-mate K-Jam (Wizard) WiFi performance. My GPRS connection was at least twice as fast.
My problem was that is was taking at least 30~60 seconds to locate a web page and another 10~15 seconds to open the page. Once connected it seemed to work OK but operation via GPRS was still faster.
My K-Jam has a ROM that permits G connection and my AP is set to G only. After reading all the articles in this post (and others), I ran the 600K download at DLSreports.com. To my surprise, my download rate was actually + 500kbit/sec which lead me to believe I might have DNS issues.
I used vxUtil (http://www.cam.com/windowsce.html) to check my DNS settings. My primary DNS being picked up from my DSL modem was the DSL modems gateway address which works fine in my Toshiba laptop. My secondary DNS was my ISP's backup.
I reconfigured my DSL modems DHCP server so that the DNS servers being dished up to my K-Jam are my ISP's primary and secondary servers and I performed a soft reset.
The speed increase was substantial! Pages are located and opened within 5 seconds now making my WiFi connection useable.
This may be worth a try for others with similar issues?
Hello,
is it possible to establish bluetooth connection between PDA and phone over 115,2kbps?
Since EDGE is 240kbps but bluetooth only 115 and it doesn't work as fast as it could.
mras said:
Hello,
is it possible to establish bluetooth connection between PDA and phone over 115,2kbps?
Since EDGE is 240kbps but bluetooth only 115 and it doesn't work as fast as it could.
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not sure exactly what you're saying here... establish a BT between PDA and phone?
sure
Bluetooth 1.2 has a theoretical maximum symmetric datarate of 432Kbps.
I tether my laptop to my 8125 over bluetooth with the datarate set to 400Kbs.
It connects at this speed and it works just fine.
Do I see a speed improvement over the 128Kbps bluetooth connection? Nope, not that I can tell. In my experience the cingular EDGE network rarely approaches anything close to there published theoretical maximum data rates.
But yeah bluetooth can do faster.
fluxist said:
Do I see a speed improvement over the 128Kbps bluetooth connection? Nope, not that I can tell. In my experience the cingular EDGE network rarely approaches anything close to there published theoretical maximum data rates.
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It all depends on your GSM operator and your geographical location etc. For example, with one the local GSM operator, I constantly get a ~200 kbps EDGE connection with the Wizard (through BT).
I was thinking of getting web & walk and using my V2 as wireless modem for my laptop and only getting the basic £7.50 w&w package.
I know there are more expensive packges for this but do you think id get away with the basic package?
Thanks, Chris
Vario II - Modem Use
I have been using the Vario II on T-Mobile W&W package very well indeed. Good speeds when on 3G (incl 3.5G) when available and surfing is faster when on the laptop via modem link rather than on Vario II direct on PIE. The basic Web 7 Walk package (1 Gb @ £7.50) does not allow modem use but....
Its not so much whether or not you use it as a modem - its a question of what traffic you put through it. 1 gig per month at 3g speeds is quite a lot - if you are browsing the web or doing emails they are going to be hard pressed to work out if you are doing it from the phone or from a laptop connected to the phone. I use my connection to remotely manage computers and am often linked to my remote network through a VPN - they could detect that relatively easily by monitoring the port numbers in use - but they have not noticed yet!
Quite honestly, the only two things which are going to make them complain are excessive traffic or lost revenue - hence the 1 gig cap and ban on VOIP.
Martin
ok thanks guys for your replys, sure has answerd my queston
I'm having a tether problem that I'm hoping somebody can help me with. Getting the actual tethering to work is no problem, I've been able to tether via DUN, Bluetooth, PDANet and also with Internet Sharing on the new ROM.
The problem I have is with speed. I'm in an HSDPA area and am getting HSDPA data (this is definate). Tethering using any of the above methods to my XP Pro PC with a USB cable (USB 2.0 ports) gives me a peak speed of roughly 600kbps - like clockwork (Bluetooth, of course, is slower.) For the longest time I believe the problem was something with the phone but then when I connected my phone to another PC I got the speed I expected (1 - 1.1 Mbps) consistently. That guys phone also get similar speeds on his PC. Connect his phone to my PC and the speeds go to 600 kbps.
I've updated every driver and piece of software that I can think of but I can not get the problem fixed. I'm pulling out my hair (and don't have alot to spare anymore.)
Any ideas???
Bob
Anybody have any ideas? This is driving me nuts. I hate to have to go get an aircard when I know that this can work.
On a side note, I borrowed an AirCard and got as high as 1800 on the download (3 blocks from the tower . . . ) which was cool.
Thanks!
Fixed - needed to increase the RWIN value (per dslreports.com). See http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php?t=1116230
Thanks,
Unbelievable! works like a charm!